<samueldr>
I'm slowly thinking I should write an X11 window manager, if only to make mistakes in its design, so whenever I end up doing the whole wayland effort I can build on existing knowledge
* samueldr
adds step to yak shaving preps
<gchristensen>
the misleading simplicity of go modules is attractive
<abathur>
lovesegfault I have a theory about what happens to *cultures* that have to spend long periods of time in isolation, because snow/ice/island/etc.
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<abathur>
usually endearing; odd currency names, yelling out windows at night, strange music
<samueldr>
I'll let you know that's not a thing in Québec, we literally call them by their face value
<samueldr>
*except* for the loon-bearing coin, which is sometimes more formally called "huard", especially in economy reporting
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<abathur>
hmm, this does square with my first impression: loonie and toonie seem a bit too kitschy for any vaguely french-speaking people except the cajuns
<samueldr>
you're a square ;)
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<abathur>
be careful, lest the Québécois end up in the same boat as the cajuns :)
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<abathur>
(loonie and toonie are, in my estimation, both much better than the closest US approximations; ours inevitably end up having common names after the *person* on the coin
<ldlework>
I'm so confused... I have nginx serving some files locally. I can access them anywhere on my LAN. I also have other webservices. My router has everything forwarded. I can access everything but nginx over WAN.
<ldlework>
What could be going wrong?
<abathur>
and I think we're too dumb to stop 1.) changing what's on ours every few years, and 2.) using only revered figures whose names feel cheapened if used as a stand-in
<abathur>
normal http/s port? is your router eating it??
<abathur>
i.e., trying to serve it but then failing to match the endpoint?
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<skrzyp>
Is it me, or the new NixOS webpage pushes the Nix as main and somewhat only relevant product while trying to keep NixOS more "under the carpet"?
<mjlbach>
It's only two clicks to download nixos 🤷♀️
<skrzyp>
of course, I don't even need the website for that
<skrzyp>
but I think the former one was more welcoming for first-time NixOS users
<skrzyp>
I am pretty sure you know what I mean
<samueldr>
it's been decided to focus on Nix the tool for the website because previously Nix the tool was hard to come by on the site
<samueldr>
NixOS users are more likely to be already sold, or need to be sold Nix anyway
<siraben>
btw "Nix and Docker is a match made in heaven." or "Nix and Docker are a match made in heaven."
<skrzyp>
"Match" is singular in this context iirc
<lovesegfault>
abathur: sorry, I got caught up :P
<lovesegfault>
tl;dr: I was using $1 but another script was passing the args as ''
<lovesegfault>
so I had to expand "$*" into an array with `read -ra` and then use ${myArray[0]}
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<Ke>
how was nix useful again?
<Ke>
it's like a package manager that has more bugs with real life software that wants fixed paths
<Ke>
well ok, it could be less useful, if you could not ad hoc package stuff
<ashkitten>
Ke: is that a legitimate question? because there are many answers to why nix is better than traditional package managers
<ashkitten>
but those answers are plenty and easy to find in well-written blog posts all over
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<Ke>
sure, in the end it just boils down to doctrine, same issues have been also solved in other ways
<Ke>
or use cases
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<ashkitten>
Ke: if so, why are you asking?
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<energizer>
Ke: nix a way of making computers and programs more similar to each other, which can reduce problems
<energizer>
is*
<energizer>
problems can be solved once and then the solutions work in other environments because the environments are similar
<energizer>
but really any technology's usefulness is about its ecosystem
<ashkitten>
steam runtime would be way easier with nix :p
<ashkitten>
(on every distro)
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<ashkitten>
i think it's kinda silly that they try to hardcode the environment with all these containers
<ashkitten>
without actually hardcoding much of anything
<ashkitten>
i guess they said that they wanted minimal rebuilds so they could get changes out faster or something
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<siraben>
What is {`-`}
<siraben>
> dogecoin.version
<{^_^}>
"1.14.2"
<etu>
Sigh, it's that time again :D
<etu>
Linux 5.9 went poof and VirtualBox doesn't work on 5.10 yet
* etu
might stick to 5.10 whenever he can run that for a long time since it's supposed to be the next LTS
<cole-h>
siraben: I believe {`-`} is the log bot
<LinuxHackerman>
correct
<lovesegfault>
Is it possible to have bit-identical cross and native compilation?
<Ke>
no idea, but I know you must give more precise scope for that question
<Ke>
yes in theory, rarely in practise
<lovesegfault>
I mean in practice, I know it's not what you usually get, and I know it's doable in theory
<LinuxHackerman>
lovesegfault: well, I just got a bit-identical result from `aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -c test.c` on my laptop and `gcc -c test.c` on my honeycomb lx2k
<LinuxHackerman>
but yeah, it seems to be producing different addresses for stuff if I link it as well
<lovesegfault>
Was 'bout to ask if you were linking anything
<LinuxHackerman>
it should definitely be possible though
<LinuxHackerman>
in the end it's the same code that's running, just compiled for different architectures
<LinuxHackerman>
(same compiler and linker code)
<Ke>
anyway, what was the motivation for the question?
<Ke>
probably would be nice, if some compiler infra was built from the start to have reproducible and host arch independent builds
<Ke>
maybe package things as llir always, someone says apple takes appstore uploads like this
<LinuxHackerman>
by host arch, do you mean what you're building on?
<Ke>
yes, I am maybe using the incorrect term
<Ke>
IIRC target was the arch where the product runs
<lovesegfault>
motivation is curiosity
<LinuxHackerman>
that… depends
<LinuxHackerman>
"build" is where you're building, "host" is where the result is going to run, and "target" (only relevant if what you're building is a compiler, and shouldn't really exist) is what the compiler you're building will build for
<Ke>
but, but you knew the answer already, I would never ask questions that I know an answer for, definitely not earlier today on this channel at least
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<Ke>
nvm.
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<LinuxHackerman>
RIP 386BSD
<eyJhb>
ldlework: What does your graph show?
<ldlework>
architecture of a bot framework i'm working on
<eyJhb>
Why RIP LinuxHackerman ? Didn't it stop a long time ago
<eyJhb>
Uhhhhh... IRC Bot?
<LinuxHackerman>
eyJhb: the above link from T?neb, just a silly joke
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<eyJhb>
Ohh, didn't see :D
<eyJhb>
Also, not like anyone asked. I finally switched to doas, just to show that I could! :p
<eyJhb>
And it really sucked trying to switch, when your deployment software relies on sudo
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<cole-h>
Which software do you use?
<cole-h>
*deployment software
* cole-h
probably shouldn't have asked right before heading to bed, but...
* cole-h
will catch up on the logs in the morning
<eyJhb>
cole-h: Nixus, so it wasn't that hard. But I just forgot about it
<eyJhb>
+ I wanted to disable sudo and then enable doas in one go, but you have to have both enabled in first deploy, and then you can disable sudo in the next one
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<eyJhb>
^ bastard :p
<etu>
eyJhb: I've been thinking of testing nixus
<etu>
eyJhb: It seems handy
<eyJhb>
I really enjoy it! I use it to deploy all my stuff and things. But there is the caveat that you need to have ssh enabled on your local computer/laptop/workstation for it to be able to deploy to it. Which needs to have passwordless sudo/doas
<eyJhb>
`As a workaround, the persist feature is implemented using timestamp files similar to sudo.
<eyJhb>
` sad
<eyJhb>
Perfect, thanks :p
<etu>
Quote: "This is not an official port/project from OpenBSD!"
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: Seems kinda sensible tbh
<etu>
So, yeah :D
<eyJhb>
Anyone have any opinion about sharing PoC code that exploits the new sudo heap-based buffer overflow? Ie, should it be shared, or should one just wait some weeks before it is a good idea?
<{^_^}>
Starship SN9 Launch Window opening in ~20 Minutes, open for 3h. Don't expect launch for another hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpQwQx4Q_Dc: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<eyJhb>
Well, the "you" in this case, is a group of 20 security experts, that are some of the best in DK. So I don't think everyone can do it, but yeah _some_ skilled ones might. But no, it wouldn't surprise we if it was for sale alread adisbladis
<gchristensen>
philipp[m]1: can you again when it is closer? :)
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: I think secrecy only benefits those with malicious intent
<philipp[m]1>
Yes, that's the plan. Also not clear whether FAA issues are cleared.
<philipp[m]1>
,launnch Scrubbed, they are letting the people back into the village.
<{^_^}>
philipp[m]1: Did you mean launch?
<{^_^}>
Scrubbed, they are letting the people back into the village.: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<philipp[m]1>
* ,launch Scrubbed, they are letting the people back into the village.
<philipp[m]1>
,launch Scrubbed, they are letting the people back into the village.
<{^_^}>
Scrubbed, they are letting the people back into the village.: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
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<JJJollyjim>
,lunch meanwhile is go
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<{^_^}>
meanwhile is go: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<{^_^}>
JJJollyjim: Did you mean launch?
<philipp[m]1>
Jamie: Now you confused {^_^}.
<JJJollyjim>
wait what lmao
<eyJhb>
,lanch hooh
<{^_^}>
eyJhb: Did you mean launch?
<{^_^}>
hooh: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<eyJhb>
Omg... Had to try. It is sensitive. No word play here!
<philipp[m]1>
Jamie: eyJhb Thanks for letting my useless pinging seem less infuriating by comparison. I'm sure that now everybody is more annoyed at you than me.
<eyJhb>
philipp[m]1: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO problem. I am just glad there is no eyJhb -- feature :D
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<JJJollyjim>
(gnupg thing doesn't affect nixos btw, see conversation in -security)
<infinisil>
Oh thank god it's a scrub, I would've missed it
<__monty__>
Fingers crossed sequoia won't get buffer overflow issues like this anymore.
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<gchristensen>
what if `git clone` always used work trees
<gchristensen>
waiting for nix to clone nixkgs to ~/cache/nix/ is obnoxious
<__monty__>
Hmm, what's work trees and how do they help?
<joepie91>
__monty__: multiple checkouts for one repo
<joepie91>
ie. you have one .git and there are multiple 'working directories' which may check out different commits/branches/etc. in that repo
<joepie91>
useful when eg. maintaining different branches of a project
<cole-h>
^
<cole-h>
It's what I do to have a release branch, master, and some nixos-* branches (for testing commits against them) checked out
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<infinisil>
gchristensen: I'm thinking about setting a global GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY, which would then store all git objects into a single dir, from all repos :P
<gchristensen>
:o
<__monty__>
How am I only now finding out about this?
<tilpner>
Also git clone --shared and --reference for more selective sharing of objects
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<tilpner>
(Probably don't touch shared, but --reference-if-able --dissociate sounds good)
<infinisil>
A global GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY would also make zfs snapshots much nicer
<infinisil>
Kinda
<infinisil>
Ohh!
<infinisil>
That would be awesome for multiple machines actualle
<infinisil>
Snapshot sync your GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY to all your other machines you might want to use
<infinisil>
Then set those with GIT_ALTERNATE_OBJECT_DIRECTORIES
<infinisil>
Which is like a read-only version of the above, and works for multiple
<infinisil>
So you kind of have a distributed immutable IPFS-like replication for git objects
<V>
infinisil: I've considered doing this before. My main concern is that a malicious repo could then include a hash-collided file that would replace some common file from one or more other repos, and silently infect things
<infinisil>
Yeah same
<infinisil>
Which is why I looked into git's sha256 support some time ago
<infinisil>
But it's not usable atm
<V>
Yeah
<V>
(I haven't looked into that in a while, but I haven't heard of it recently, so was assuming as much)
<__monty__>
Doesn't git already use SHA256?
<V>
No
<V>
SHA1
<__monty__>
Hmm. Think there's some practical attacks on SHA256 also btw?
<V>
If it were, I wouldn't be nearly as concerned (although not completely comfortable)
<V>
This is something where you either must not mix trust domains, or perform extensive validation
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<betawaffle>
infinisil: i've had the idea too, haven't had the guts to do it yet
<betawaffle>
__monty__: the one i know of is length extension
<joepie91>
__monty__: worktrees are a relatively recent feature, I believe
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<infinisil>
"We estimate your Librem 5 will ship in April 2021"
<infinisil>
Ayyyyy :D:D:D
<infinisil>
ili: ^
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<bbigras>
nice
<ili>
<infinisil ""We estimate your Librem 5 will "> nice! Hopefully that’ll be the last estimated date ^^
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<pie_>
what was the seamless multi computer mouse thingy called? and how do i get one :P
<joepie91>
(fork from before synergy went proprietary)
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<lovesegfault>
hmm, what do I do if I want my nix flake to use another local flake
<lovesegfault>
oh, there's a path type
<lovesegfault>
neat
* __monty__
prods lovesegfault towards #nixos
<bbigras>
people are quick to tell people to move to #nixos.
<__monty__>
Flakes is ontopic there imo.
<bbigras>
the room's topic is "much less topical" not, "no #nixos topic allowed".
<__monty__>
Some stuff could go here for sure. Support questions are better served in #nixos though. And it serves double duty there because the newer people learn from others' questions.
<lovesegfault>
#nixos is unusable because of all the bot noise
<lovesegfault>
I don't want to read messages interspersed with a zillion notifications I don't care about
<pie_>
__monty__: joepie91: cool thanks
<__monty__>
lovesegfault: You can ignore the bot though?
<__monty__>
People using #nixos-chat as their personal support channel really irks me.
<samueldr>
I see we'll need to change the topic if people are going to rules-lawyer it
<samueldr>
don't be rules-lawyering, it's not nice :(
<joepie91>
there's a reason people use #nixos-chat as a support channel
<samueldr>
most likely
<__monty__>
Yeah, they use it because knowledgeable people get tired of fielding support questions in #nixos but do keep track of conversation here...
<joepie91>
like, this has been a recurring thing for a couple of years by now, and I don't think it's useful to just complain about people asking support questions here without asking "hey, why does that happen, what can we do to make people ask it in #nixos instead"
<samueldr>
but there's a reason I'm idling for discussion on #nixos-chat
<__monty__>
What's the point of an off-topic channel if everything goes?
* joepie91
is actually not a fan of off-topic channels for basically this reason
<joepie91>
you generally end up with a support channel that's mostly dead and an off-topic channel where all the regulars hang
<joepie91>
NixOS is not the first and will not be the last community where this is the outcome
<samueldr>
I don't like how it's a foregone conclusion
<joepie91>
because why would people stick around in the main channel if there's no community, nothing to chat about other than an endless stream of support questions?
<__monty__>
#haskell pulls it off, in a weird way. The main channel allows off-topic chat too.
<samueldr>
but off-topic discussion makes for harder discussions about nixos on the on-topic channels
<samueldr>
already somtimes there's three questions being answered at the time
<joepie91>
samueldr: I've seen this happen in a lot of places, it basically always plays out the same, and I've seen no evidence of this sort of 'hard split' ever working in the long term
<joepie91>
it's the entire reason that #Node.js has a very broad on-topic policy, for example
<samueldr>
I think the alternative (off-topic on main) is most likely to end-up with less participation, from both sides
<samueldr>
but have no proofs
<samueldr>
obviously
<joepie91>
<samueldr> but off-topic discussion makes for harder discussions about nixos on the on-topic channels
<bbigras>
I like this channel to talk with people who like nixos while I see the other channel as a kinda support only channel.
<joepie91>
it doesn't need to
<joepie91>
this is very easily addressed by saying "questions have priority"
<samueldr>
but then what happens for the "I want to just talk with the community members?"
<samueldr>
there's always questions
<joepie91>
there's also often no questions
<samueldr>
and I'm not in a space where I would answer questions right now
<samueldr>
so what, I should just not speak with other members?
<samueldr>
because that's what I'll do
<samueldr>
I'll just shut up
<lovesegfault>
I think grouping all on-topic questions as "support" is a mistake
<joepie91>
why wouldn't you be able to speak with other people?
<samueldr>
because support has priority
<joepie91>
so long as it doesn't interfere with questions, which is often, it's not an issue
<lovesegfault>
there's a big difference when an experienced user asks a question, and what they expect as an answer vs. a beginner
<bbigras>
I wonder if a chat with threads like zulip helps with this. Maybe you can have "misc" thread where all the non-serious stuff in, and people make threads for specific questions.
<joepie91>
plus the question rate will very likely go down once support levels improve
<samueldr>
ugh
<samueldr>
I really shouldn't have engaged
<samueldr>
because I'm not in a space to do so
<lovesegfault>
what do you mean by space?
<samueldr>
bye bye low effort no-ommitment chat
<samueldr>
head space
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<lovesegfault>
:/
<joepie91>
like, I'm open to other suggestions to fix the support issue, which has been dragging on for years, but from everything I've seen so far in various communities, it seems like there's going to be a fundamental choice of priority between a) having a no-questions space for regulars or b) having a helpful support space
<joepie91>
and I've found the former to generally lead to an insular community, which is definitely also a problem with NixOS
<__monty__>
This is kinda why I mentioned #haskell. People stay in the main channel because off-topic is allowed. But those that don't want to see on-topic stuff just hang in #haskell-offtopic.
<joepie91>
__monty__: are they separate communities or the same people?
* joepie91
has not seen that model applied much, having both
<__monty__>
Intersection, mostly newer people don't know about -offtopic so it's biased towards longer term participants.
<joepie91>
right
<joepie91>
that would probably be worth a try
<__monty__>
I don't know if it works in a prescriptivist way tbh, I think it grew that way because -offtopic isn't super active.
<joepie91>
I mean, all that's really needed is to make it clear that the policy is "questions have priority", the rest would grow from that naturally :P
<__monty__>
Maybe yeah.
<__monty__>
I do think the bot needs to become a lot quieter to make it work though.
<pie_>
joepie91 is it just me or does the barrier repo not say at all how this is supposed to be used
<joepie91>
__monty__: yeah the bot is definitely a problem
<__monty__>
I get that it's cool to see new packages or updates sometimes, mostly for more experienced users.
<joepie91>
it'll give off a very... un-human vibe to newcomers
<joepie91>
as if it's just an update feed, not a channel to talk
<__monty__>
Yeah it's a bit intimidating and it can feel like your question has completely disappeared before anyone'll have a chance to even read it.
<eyJhb>
talyz: Sorry for not testing the PR, completely went by me. Still half burried in exams....
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<pie_>
bbigras: ok setting that up via the gui was easier than expected
<bbigras>
pie_: good :)
<eyJhb>
THere is a LOT of stuff above, but a general better documentation for NixOS would also help a lot. Many of the questions are the same, and I see people answering the same things over and over again. I am impressed by those that are still able to answer in there. I RARELY help, but try when I have some time
<pie_>
eyJhb: yeah we realllly need a faq
<eyJhb>
I always see e.g. clever in there doing a lot of work (not that I don't see others!)
<pie_>
it shows on his karma counter ._.
<eyJhb>
We need just, better documentation of e.g. nixpkgs.. The builtins, build-support, etc.
<eyJhb>
And I don't want to load the entire world in HTML and then ctrl+f to find it... :p
<pie_>
clever: any chance you start copy pasting a faq? :P
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<pie_>
eyJhb: hey, you could do that _also_ :P
<eyJhb>
pie_: I don't fancy failing anymore exams :p
<pie_>
hah tell me about it...
<clever>
pie_: last time i saw my karma counter, it was at negative 2 billion, lol
<pie_>
i meant you coudl download the world as an html
<pie_>
_and_ have separate pages
<samueldr>
you wouldn't download a world
<eyJhb>
Yay, samueldr is back :D
<pie_>
bbigras: joepie91: __monty__: woo now i can use my other device as a second screen!
<eyJhb>
Also, don't tell me I wouldn't download a world! I would if I could :( Reminds me of the old anti-pirating stuff
<samueldr>
eyJhb: that's what I meant
<pie_>
i might set up a second screenish thingy with vnc or something so i can have "seamless" apps for the lulz
<pie_>
eyJhb: thatsthejoke :P
<bbigras>
pie_: nice
<eyJhb>
I seem to remember something like, you wouldn't download a car? ANd heck yes I would if I could :D
<clever>
2021-01-28 10:23:06< {^_^}> clever's karma got increased to -2147483648
<eyJhb>
I am tired, don't do the judging on me :p
<clever>
pie_: ah, there it is! :D
<pie_>
i mean sure my firewall rules are a botch job but i managed to guess my way through the config
<eyJhb>
But I really, as I have said other times, wish for a way build easily searchable documentation with params. Also better namespaces for commands, etc.
<pie_>
bbigras: ahahaha slight childish giddy feelings. this is kinda neat
<pie_>
should figure out a shortcut for switching between machines..
<pie_>
seems a bit odd you cant change the server config from the client
<eyJhb>
Anyways, see you guys! Time for some Tiramisu and chill before an "early" night.
<philipp[m]1>
CW: Printers; Is anybody here using a HP LaserJet Pro M15w. Is it decent?
<philipp[m]1>
Or is anybody using a different networked black and white laser printer that doesn't make them pull out their hair every few weeks?
<joepie91>
philipp[m]1: I've had multiple tell me that Brother is what you want if you want a printer that Just Works
<joepie91>
finally bit the bullet a few weeks ago and ordered one, and so far those expectations have been met
<samueldr>
wifi is convenient in my use case, since the printer can stay uh... elsewhere
<pie_>
samueldr: at one point i raged and tried to dig into it a bit
<joepie91>
pie_: samueldr: well I guess this confirms it wasn't a problem with my printer lol
<samueldr>
I just have to plug power in, ensure there's paper, go back to my computer, print, go to that other room to fetch the print, unplug it for yet a few more months
<pie_>
joepie91: i mean, you figured out that it works from your normal pdf thing so its gotta be a firefox issue... :P
<samueldr>
joepie91: I ended up printing from chrome *going through its "air print"* and it worked fine
<samueldr>
thinking that it was the driver
<pie_>
id link it from bugzilla but i never know how to use bugzilla
<samueldr>
but that air print worked
<samueldr>
but now with what you say it sure sounds like I worked around the issue differently
<joepie91>
pie_: no I actually dug into IPP a bit
<pie_>
do most printy things pritn pdf by converting it to postscript?
<joepie91>
pie_: you can basically ask your printer "hey what input formats do you support"
<pie_>
joepie91 do normal html pages get printed properly
<pie_>
actually i dont know if i even checked that
<joepie91>
and most modern printers accept PDF
<pie_>
aha.
<joepie91>
pie_: nop, same problem, rasterized
<pie_>
so why the hell is firefox rasterizing first
<joepie91>
IIRC
<joepie91>
🤷♂️
<joepie91>
wrong priority order for its format preferences?
<pie_>
well if normal html pages have rasterization issues too that sounds different
<joepie91>
I think Firefox internally throws normal pages through its PDF generation machinery
<joepie91>
which I believe it has
<joepie91>
though I'm definitely balancing on the edge of my reliable long-term memory here :P
<pie_>
that would 1) make sense 2) how does anyone tolerate the hrrible print behaviour
<pie_>
something that to be wrong here somewhere it cant be this broken for everyone
<pie_>
ar: does this only affect people on nightly kernel builds iiuc?
<pie_>
sicne it was merged into mainline yesterday?
<ar>
pie_: I'm actually confused whether what was merged fixes, or introduces the bug
<ar>
pie_: as somewhere else there was talk that it's not been touched since 2009 or so
<pie_>
from the couple words i read (very thorough i know) it sounds like it was saying the bug that enables the vuln was there since 2008? but maybe that could be an optimistic reading
<pie_>
eeee vnc does not seem to interact well with barrier on the alternate screens XD (i have the mouse in some sort of relative movement mode but meanwhile vnc only sees the one screen) - the mouse movement on the alternate screen doesnt work right
<elvishjerricco>
Is it possible to bridge an ethernet port and a wifi adapter or something? My desktop is connected via wifi, and I have a CM4 that only has ethernet, so I'd like to bridge internet over a wire between my desktop and the CM4
<Mic92>
has someone made good experience with pipewire + bluetooth?
<Mic92>
It was a bit buggy on my end.
<Mic92>
but could have been the headset I used
<samueldr>
elvishjerricco: yes, but I don't know how
<joepie91>
pie_: I suspect it's only broken for Linux users
<__monty__>
elvishjerricco: Should be. MacOS has this built-in. I think I did this using intel's connection daemon.
<joepie91>
pie_: whose benchmark for a functioning printer setup tends to be "letters come out!"
<__monty__>
NM should be able to do it.
<pie_>
joepie91 :/
<pie_>
under these circumstances im not surprised :P
<colemickens>
flox: the only question I have is of course unanswered
<elvishjerricco>
I tried `networking.bridges.br0.interfaces = ["enp4s0" "wlp5s0"];`, but I got `RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported`
<elvishjerricco>
Does that mean my wifi adapter just doesn't support this?
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<pie_>
elvishjerricco: have you tried doing it manually? mind you id be using the nixos stuff specifically because i dont know how to do it manually xP
<__monty__>
Have you tried manually configuring it using ip?
<elvishjerricco>
I have no idea how to do it manually
<elvishjerricco>
I know next to nothing about networking
<pie_>
yup there we go
<pie_>
ive been "how the f do i networking" for years now. some progress has been made