gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<samueldr> I can't believe it's now been 2 years since people on LWN complained in the comments that we should have "just" done "something" about a userland breakage rather than get it fixed
<aanderse> samueldr: you made it onto LWN... you're famous!
<samueldr> I had the rare opportunity to shame kernel developers for breaking userland!
<samueldr> (and backporting their breakage!)
<samueldr> if they hadn't backported it, it might have taken much longer for us to see
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<gchristensen> who is around? I'm looking for impressions on a thing
* cole-h waves
<gchristensen> PM'd, anyone else? :)
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<cole-h> is it possible to convert a dataset to zvol in-place? I send-recv'd between pools and when I recv'd back to the original disk, it was not longer a zvol :(
<cole-h> s/not/no/
<cole-h> I guess I could just send it back to "new" disk and then create the zvol again and dd it into /dev/zvol
<gchristensen> okay thanks y'all! g'night!
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<Ke> to be honest, looking at how much stable work there is, I would not consider it sane to say that someone would personally evaluate all the patches properly without some automated filtering
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<Ke> well regardless of automated filtering
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* Emantor just rewrote parts of his config to make it flaky.
<Emantor> Deploy-rs also works, quite neat.
<Emantor> lovesegfault: thanks for your configuration, I used it as a reference :-)
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<ehmry> I made a nixops/krops/morph replacement: https://www.spam.works/uploads/flake-deployer.nix
<ehmry> (self being a flake)
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<drakonis> it uses nix lol
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<samueldr> hmm, it would be nice to have a way to automatically "bubble up" a commit up until the first conflict it causes on rebase
<samueldr> commits A, B, C, D, E, F; bubble-up-rebase F would try `A, B, C, D, F, E` `A, B, C, F, D, E` `A, B, F, C, D, E` up to a rebase conflict
<samueldr> (it would keep the last successful rebase)
<samueldr> maybe something like that already exists?
<srk> would be nice. also estimated breakage of other PRs
<samueldr> my main use would be to lazily bubble up my fixup commits to the most likely commit I want them to be fixup'd into
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<samueldr> thing is I don't want it to do the fixup, only figure out the oldest ancestor... because it might happen that fixup'ing in it would be wrong
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<samueldr> but yeah, absorb looks like it's the same kind of idea
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> it does not autosquash
<samueldr> (the elevator pitch made me think it would)
<samueldr> aww... wanted to shitpost that perseverance was mostly a glorified gamecube... but the gamecube CPU has L2 cache and is clocked 2~4× faster
<samueldr> (and not the same microarchitecture)
<eyJhb> samueldr: :o Don't you talk smack about those cute bots! :(
<samueldr> the gamecube is cute!
<samueldr> oh, it *might* be a really simiar µarch though!
<samueldr> I was led astray by the entry on wikipedia, but they're both PowerPC 7xx
<samueldr> 750 vs 750CXe
<samueldr> so the linage goes Perseverance -> Gamecube -> Wii -> Wii U
<samueldr> lineage*
<samueldr> (not really)
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<srk> and Ingenuity running Snapdragon.. :D
<samueldr> yep, basically a oneplus one
<samueldr> no, a oneplus x since it's a 801, oneplus one is 800
<samueldr> uh
<samueldr> maybe I'm wrong
<samueldr> oneplus one _is_ a 801
<samueldr> I'll take the bid for sending a oneplus one strapped to a drone, and a glorified gamecube in space
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<eyJhb> samueldr: so you're saying, that I basically have a Mars ready device in my pocket? ;) \s
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<srk> just attach solar pannels and a fan for dust. couple Mars ready usb devices
<srk> hm, who needs fans when you have a heli
<srk> samueldr: now we wait a month until is compiles everything and flies because they used crosscompiled packages
<samueldr> nix-copy-closure --to ingenuity.mars.solarsystem.nasa.gov
<srk> would take two months.. :D
<srk> maybe there's hydra on the rover
<gchristensen> for that kind of latency and bandwidth we'd surely have a --binary-patch-base
<srk> rpmdiff /o\
<srk> now I wonder if this was explored for nix. could be interesting with cow fs
<lovesegfault> Emantor: I'm glad it's handy!
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<drakonis> i looked up ihp and i'm not sure how to feel about it
<drakonis> it looks like it hides away a ton of complexity
<drakonis> it is perhaps too much like rails
<drakonis> but taken to an extreme
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