gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<samueldr> isn't this just a perfect snippet for death by a thousand cuts
<samueldr> I guess we know which "useless" feature youtube will cust next; CCs
<samueldr> (well, we already knew since they removed the feature allowing contributions from users)
<joepie91> I doubt they will remove it fully
<joepie91> as that will anger various organizations who need to comply with the ADA
<samueldr> eh
<samueldr> we'll see
<samueldr> for the record, since it's amazing to listen to, this was from this video: https://youtu.be/HU8_ZCg3tuE?t=39
<samueldr> now I wonder what the subtitles are
<samueldr> ah, auto-generated
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<lukegb> samueldr: I mean it's reasonably obvious the arrow was supposed to be on the thing on the left
<samueldr> lukegb: yes, since it's obvious, why isn't it here?
<samueldr> or I don't understand what you mean
<lukegb> a bug?
<samueldr> obviously
<lukegb> things happen *shrug*
<samueldr> at this scale?
<samueldr> it's because no one cares anymore
<samueldr> death by a thousand cuts
<samueldr> everything, on the whole, works
<samueldr> but is just subtly broken in tiny ways
<samueldr> all, alone, don't matter
<samueldr> but on the whole produces an unpolished turd
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<abathur> is turd-polisher an insult, compliment, or job title?
<cole-h> yes
<samueldr> it is something we sorely need generally in computing and tech
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<supersandro2000> I need to find the time to convert all my docker things to nixos
<supersandro2000> it is so sad that they just now added ipv6 auto port forward https://docs.docker.com/engine/release-notes/#20102
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/20102 (by gilligan, 4 years ago, merged): Add npm2nix to v6.x nodePackages
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<lovesegfault> man
<lovesegfault> what a day
<siraben> lovesegfault: what happened?
<cole-h> Redcaps stormed the Capitol
<siraben> oh, referring to that
<siraben> yeah that was shocking to wake up to
<lovesegfault> Yeah, I'm talking about people storming the Capitol
<lovesegfault> I never felt so at home in the US
<siraben> i wonder if they'll do a full sweep of all the electronics because there were maga supporters in the office
<lovesegfault> felt like I was back at home in Brazil :D
<cole-h> lol
<siraben> heh happens quite often in Thailand as well with all the coups
<lovesegfault> lol
<cole-h> uh what
<siraben> facebook
<lovesegfault> facebook was originally a website the zucc created for men to rate women in the Harvard campus
<lovesegfault> (yes, yuck)
<lovesegfault> it grew from there
<siraben> www.facemash.com or something
<lovesegfault> aye
<cole-h> uh
<cole-h> what
<lovesegfault> Yeah
<siraben> cole-h: it's portrayed in an exagerrated way in the movie "the social network"
<siraben> exaggerated*
<siraben> but yeah, higher-order effects man
<cole-h> Time to delete Facebook, hit a lawyer, and hire a gym.
<lovesegfault> I turned my brain off today
<lovesegfault> just played pokemon and tried to not pay attention
<lovesegfault> although facebook, instagram, and twitter gave trump a temp-ban lol
<julm> lovesegfault: "Mark Leibovich: The Capitol seems to be under the control of a man in a viking hat." <- though Wikipedia tells us that "there is no evidence that Viking helmets did in fact have horns" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_helmet#Popular_association_with_Vikings
<siraben> also some rumor that it's antifa masquerading as trump supporters/hiding in the mob lol
<lovesegfault> julm: Aye, list of common misconceptions :P
<lovesegfault> I wonder how much confidential stuff leaked
<lovesegfault> they were in all the offices
<lovesegfault> taking pictures etc
<bbigras> and spreading covid everywhere
<cole-h> in all the clips I saw, most had no masks
<cole-h> when they did, most were only covering the mouth and not the nose
<siraben> sigh
<cole-h> 🤦
<siraben> i wonder if it'll be safe for me to return to uni in the US in Aug 2021, but maybe not enough people vaccinate
<bbigras> yeah it will take a while for everyone (wanting it) to get it
<lovesegfault> $10 people who only take one dose help the virus mutate a vaccine resistance
<bbigras> and.. well I have no idea if true, but I saw that maybe some experts fear that the vaccine might not protect against the new mutations.
<lovesegfault> Heck, I double my bet, $20 :P
<cole-h> lovesegfault: How many doses are there? 2? 3 like HPV?
<siraben> why are there multiple doses?
<cole-h> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<lovesegfault> AIUI not all the developed vaccines take multiple doses, but the main one being deployed in the US right now needs two doses
<cole-h> Probably want to ask a virologist or smth
<lovesegfault> it's common for vaccines to need a booster shot AIUI
<lovesegfault> to make _sure_ you've had the immune response
<lovesegfault> or, enough of an immune response to generate antibodies
<lovesegfault> my guess would be something like "One dose of the vaccine has a 95% chance of generating an appropriate immune response" so they do two to reach whatever rate of success they need
<lovesegfault> (I made up the 95 number to illustrate the point)
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<cole-h> Kinda annoying how, sometimes after a nixos-rebuild {test,switch}, sway will crash in the middle of restarting...
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<siraben> cole-h: oh? never had that
<cole-h> Might be related to the h-m module then, cuz that's what I'm using.
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<supersandro2000> fun fact: people tried and plan to do the same thing in Germany
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<eyJhb> lovesegfault: it is also to prolong the immunity pretty much :D
<siraben> supersandro2000: they wanted to storm the German capitol?
<supersandro2000> siraben: they tried to at the end of August but where stopped at the steps
<supersandro2000> if I remember correctly they wanted to do it again but the next time they wanted to get in
<supersandro2000> I mean go big or go home
<supersandro2000> IIRC they even announced it in a public telegram channel weeks before it
<supersandro2000> but they where not in the building
<siraben> Apparently in the US they just let them in the building/they push past? hmm
<siraben> ah i see, I was not aware if this was planned
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<eyJhb> yay ^
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<supersandro2000> basically the same that happened here
<supersandro2000> police literally vanished like 10 to 20 minutes before they attempted it and there where only a handful of policemen there when it happened
<supersandro2000> you must say it was a busy day in Berlin and a lot was going on but to prioritize the Reichstag is what you expect and not some random other event where nothing bigger can happen
<supersandro2000> also saw similar things with the covid deniers where police let them pass and walk around in cities or hold off forbidden demonstrations for hours
<supersandro2000> there where demonstrations at times when you where not allowed to meet with more than 5 people from two houses with well over 1000 people
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<philipp[m]> At least we had like three cops that actually held the door of the building.
<supersandro2000> 🥲
<supersandro2000> UTF-8 makes everythign easy ™️
<lukegb> lol
<lukegb> was about to bump a PR but then realised a new version of the package was released... 3 hours ago
<lukegb> well, time to mark it as stale and start again
<joepie91> <siraben> Apparently in the US they just let them in the building/they push past? hmm
<joepie91> they opened the perimeter gates, so yes :P
<joepie91> the cops did, that is
<siraben> i see
<joepie91> at least one cop was also talking selfies with the insurgents...
<philipp[m]> I mean, we also have those cops. A lot of them.
<joepie91> so, like, y'know, there didn't seem to be much of any intention to remove them...
<adisbladis> Cops backing up authoritarians, news at 11
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<supersandro2000> same procedure as every year? same procedure as every year.
<LinuxHackerman> nobody knows that outside Germany :p
<supersandro2000> true...
<supersandro2000> lets create an English short film that is only known in Germany
<FireFly> also scandinavia!
<srk> how many PRs land in nixpkgs per month (roughly?)
<LinuxHackerman> srk: at least 1728 in December
<LinuxHackerman> srk: at least 2651 in November
<LinuxHackerman> (I checked using `grep '2020-11.*\[nixpkgs\].*merged pull' irc.freenode.#nixos.weechatlog | wc -l`)
<ma27[m]> you hacker :p
<srk> LinuxHackerman: thanks :))
<srk> ma27[m]: yeah I'm looking at that page, but it's not clear from the last graph. there are some aggregation functions that could be used to make it clear
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<eyJhb> For anyone playing, you lost the game
<manveru[m]> eyJhb: you devil
<eyJhb> manveru[m]: sorry :D
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<etu> Ah, that meme is still around
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<siraben> eyJhb: slow claps
<manveru[m]> the only way to win is to never know about the game...
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<eyJhb> But even if you don't you can still loose! Anybody know the origin of the game, and how far it reached?
<eyJhb> `The origins of The Game are uncertain. In a 2008 news article, Justine Wettschreck says The Game has probably been around since the early 1990s, and may have originated in Australia or England.`
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<talyz> eyJhb: a pretty old meme, then :o
<etu> Thinking of it, that meme can pretty much be seen as a social expriment of how viruses spreads.
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<hexa-> *sigh*
<hexa-> I hate unicorns.
<eyJhb> etu: Yuuup, also what I thought :D
<eyJhb> talyz: Yeah it would seem, and widespread as well!
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<sphalerite> hexa-: ooh, I wonder if that's the same bug as https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues?q=is%3Aissue+mysql+gcc
<hexa-> sphalerite: lmao :)
<sphalerite> I reported it to github a couple months ago, I don't think anything's happened
<hexa-> of course not
<hexa-> just like IPv6 is not a priority
<supersandro2000> Docker just added auto network setup for IPv6
<supersandro2000> all the years before you needed to do it by hand...
<supersandro2000> I think you can't search closed issue at all
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<sphalerite> Anyone here have experience with ripping blurays? I'm considering buying some but don't want to have the discs and drive with me every time I want to watch something. I've had a quick ddg, but all the solutions seem to reencode the video, while I'd prefer to not add another layer of lossy compression
<gchristensen> I've done it on some but it is really spotty on if the dvd works or not
<sphalerite> from disc to disc?
<gchristensen> oops, bluray*
<gchristensen> is the template that I have to futz with every time I want to use it
<sphalerite> oh boy, it varies between runs?
<sphalerite> Maybe I should abandon this plan.
<gchristensen> I dunno
<gchristensen> I probably commented it out b/c I already reran it part way and it was slow
<gchristensen> it wasn't hard / impossible, and I still back up my blurays from time to time, but not often enough that it is fully automatic
<sphalerite> what's the repeating for?
<sphalerite> (the for i in $(seq 100) bit)
<gchristensen> to extract all the titles from the mkv
<sphalerite> is that because it's flaky, or to rip 100 discs in one go?
<sphalerite> oooh
<gchristensen> erm, not mkv
<gchristensen> from the backed-up disk
<gchristensen> it creates like 70 1MB large .mkvs, and then 1 very large mkv, and that very large one is the movie
<sphalerite> wait, makemkv is unfree? :(
<gchristensen> yea
<sphalerite> eeeh. Oh, and it does seem to do reencoding as well?
<adisbladis> Pardon my ignorance, but couldn't you rip those with ffmpeg?
<gchristensen> I don't think you can since you need to decrypt it
<gchristensen> can you?
<gchristensen> if you can do something better please do it :P this is just what I cobbled together
<adisbladis> Here is where my ignorance comes in ;)
<gchristensen> I think if you happen to have a bluray which you wrote some home movies to, ffmpeg can do it
<gchristensen> but if you're trying to take a back-up of your purchased media, ffmpeg won't be able to
<adisbladis> "Encrypted (or commercial) Blu-ray media is extremely difficult to enjoy within Linux, as MPlayer's libaacs rarely works when playing encrypted Blu-ray media"
<gchristensen> since makemkv increases my overall freedom, that seemed fine
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Oh yeah, things are coming back to me now. I remember ppl buying PS3s early on because you had raw access to the bd drive and could strip encryption
<gchristensen> whoa
<gchristensen> those PS3s were magic
<sphalerite> Yeeeeah not going to buy those blu-rays.
<gchristensen> I mean if you can't play them in your preferred way I don't know that there is reason you couldn't send them back
<sphalerite> or I could save myself the effort, and buy DVDs
<sphalerite> then I also don't need to buy a drive
<lukegb> but mah pixels
<adisbladis> Find a good torrent tracker and download complete blurays
<adisbladis> Probably much less hassle
<sphalerite> a lot more legally questionable though :p
<lukegb> Buy the bluray *then* pirate it :p
<sphalerite> I don't think that's any more legal
<adisbladis> sphalerite: The next level is to get hold of studio raws ;)
<sphalerite> unfortunately!
<sphalerite> adisbladis: ooooh. Heist time?
<adisbladis> :D
<adisbladis> You son of a bitch, I'm in.
<lukegb> heh, or grab the DCPs for digital cinema :p
<adisbladis> Seriously though, those are pretty
<adisbladis> And no stupid DRM
<adisbladis> A movie is easily 150G plus though
<gchristensen> I had a big disk full of studio raws once. best viewing of lilo & stitch I'd ever seen, lol
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Nice
<adisbladis> I did some consulting work for a video streaming site, they had a really nice storage cluster full of those files
<gchristensen> back at clarify, doing object recognition in scenes
<lukegb> digital cinema DRM is great, I love having my films encrypted (eventually) with a per-projector key stored in a FIPS 140-2 compliant module
<lukegb> But yeah, studio raws are easier :p
<adisbladis> I would expect some kind of waterprinting though
<gchristensen> yes
<sphalerite> I mean, what I want is an option where I can legally watch the film on my own terms, ideally with better-than-DVD quality…
<adisbladis> sphalerite: No
<adisbladis> You can't have that
<gchristensen> you can't
<gchristensen> but you could pretend that "backing up" your bluray is legal
<adisbladis> gchristensen: That is legal
<sphalerite> oh, that isn't either?
<adisbladis> At least in the EU
* gchristensen shrugs
<adisbladis> In the US you have stupid crap like DMCA which might play a role
<gchristensen> it is all pretty much a fiction anyway, try buying a few blurays, try importing, if it doesn't work, send 'em back, what do you have to lose?
<hexa-> Handbrake is the right tool forthe job
<adisbladis> In the EU DRM circumvention is perfectly legal within some constraints iirc
<sphalerite> gchristensen: time
<hexa-> ^ this
<adisbladis> hexa-: Without transcoding
<gchristensen> hexa-: can handbrake get data off bluray? I didn't think it could
<hexa-> uh, blurays have m2ts files, don't they?
<hexa-> like in BDMV/STREAM/
<adisbladis> hexa-: Yes, but with fancy encryption
<joepie91> <adisbladis> I did some consulting work for a video streaming site, they had a really nice storage cluster full of those files
<hexa-> ah
<sphalerite> I mean there's libaacs and libbdplus that implement the encryption/decryption, but that's not much use without the keys
<gchristensen> that is why I thought you needed mkmkv
<hexa-> there was slysoft anydvd iirc :p
<joepie91> sure would be a shame if someone accidentally installed an FTP daemon with default credentials
<gchristensen> joepie91: that is the old style. the new style is accidentally making the bucket public, a thing which has happened many many times for studio raws
<joepie91> oh yeah, true, it's all in the ~cloud~ now
<sphalerite> I mean, that's good enough to be plausibly deniable, right? :p
<gchristensen> frankly this is a good thing, joepie91
<gchristensen> exactly
<gchristensen> much easier to say I accidentally didn't make it private than whoops I accidentally added firewall rules and an ftp daemon
<adisbladis> I could have probably gotten away with anything
<adisbladis> Over half the staff quit that place at the same time
<joepie91> yeah
<joepie91> hah
<adisbladis> They would have probably assumed it was a disgruntled employee
<sphalerite> wow, sounds excellently managed.
<joepie91> sounds managed to approximately the degree that I have come to expect from anything streaming
<joepie91> it seems that the non-porn streaming industry is only superficially less fucked-up than the porn streaming industry
<joepie91> which I guess is to be expected from what is often a rent-seeking industry...
<gchristensen> my understanding is the porn streaming industry was leading the pack
<adisbladis> At least they understand what their users want and try to provide it
<adisbladis> Instead of trying to protect IP into oblivion
<joepie91> gchristensen: sure, but that has historically often been true
<joepie91> well, porn streaming industry + the piracy scene
<adisbladis> It's pretty clear that the entertainment industry isn't exactly one with functioning markets
<joepie91> err, piracy industry*
<joepie91> should not get the two mixed up :P
<joepie91> adisbladis: yeah...
<adisbladis> It's interesting how movies/series can be seen as mini monopolies
<adisbladis> At least that's my observation
<lukegb> Clearly instead of allowing people to buy series, we should have different studios compete on making the same movie
<joepie91> well, that's what copyright is, a government-sanctioned economic monopoly
<lukegb> and see who can do it better :p
<adisbladis> lukegb: lol
<lukegb> s/people/studios/
<joepie91> like, literally :P
<lukegb> Imagine! We could have several different takes on Harry Potter :p
<joepie91> lukegb: I think The Asylum is hiring
<adisbladis> Harry Potter but queer when?
<joepie91> sounds right up your alley!
<sphalerite> that would be pretty cool.
<joepie91> adisbladis++
<{^_^}> adisbladis's karma got increased to 126
<sphalerite> well, shouldn't it would be possible to take fanfics, change the names of the characters a bit, and boom, you have material. Like twilight → 50 shades
<adisbladis> Harry Potter but everyone is a gangster from the hood
<adisbladis> The Wire style
<adisbladis> I'd watch that
<eyJhb> would be kinda cool. but doesn't that already exists adisbladis ?
<adisbladis> eyJhb: Does it?
<eyJhb> Heard something that they had done it for the entire first movie
<eyJhb> Add some more hoodies and we are good to go
<eyJhb> Okay, they replaced more than just the wands..
<bbigras> Harry Potter with Guns is great
<sphalerite> So I guess makemkv must contain the aacs and bdplus keys somehow?
<gchristensen> yea
<eyJhb> Reminds me that my brothers PS3 still can't play Blurays after I jailbroke it. It can be restored if I get the "keys" of the last Bluray disc it played.. I just hoped he never noticed it
<eyJhb> gchristensen: But isn't Bluray rips like 50-60G?
<gchristensen> what about it?
<eyJhb> Just, a lot to save... Do you do any transcoding on it afterwards to get it down in size?
<cransom> i transcode and just fetch the feature. i don't need the bonus commentary/deleted scenes/etc.
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<eyJhb> cransom: But I don't expect those to be the 58GB :D
<cransom> no, not likely, but also you don't know what they were encoded with. you could re-encode with a more efficient codec, maybe drop the bit rate a little and it's far more managable
<cransom> it's also why they make 10+tb drives now, 50g per BD, that's a quite a few to have on hand.
<eyJhb> Ahh, wish I had money for some better HDDs...
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<bbigras> I wish I had the money to have 2 redundant routers even if I don't really need it.
<cole-h> My parents were supposed to get a new dishwasher installed today, but whoever built the house is such a moron that we need to redo the lines to the dishwasher before it can be replaced.
<gchristensen> O.O
<cole-h> (Note: this dishwasher has been out of service since 2013)
<gchristensen> did Technology Connections convince them to replace it?
<cole-h> If I had unlimited money, I'd want to explore legal options against this guy. We've had so many issues over the years that my parents have (maybe falsely) attributed to this guy
<cole-h> Including a leaky (more like flood-y) roof (x2) and more
<bbigras> Technology Connections made me realize that I was a dumbass for using soap pods.
<pie_> bbigras: ?
<bbigras> pie_: when you use proportioned soap pods you usually don't fill the pre-wash soap tray.
<infinisil> Ugh, ever since gchristensen suggested to use https://documentation.divio.com/ I notice it every time a project doesn't have this separation
<joepie91> bbigras: they're gonna actually change the industry with that video, aren't they
<joepie91> infinisil: hey that's the thing I wrote about a while ago! :P
<gchristensen> infinisil: ^.^ it is good stuff!
<bbigras> joepie91: I don't know. People loves those packs. I went to costco this week and there was a lot of packs but no liquid stuff. maybe it's just out of stock but they have a lot more packs than the liquid version.
<pie_> joepie91: wait _you_ wrote that?
<joepie91> pie_: not that specific page, but I wrote basically the same thing in my NixOS docs rant
<pie_> ah
* joepie91 digs
<joepie91> though I rolled howto + tutorial into one category
<pie_> wat? xD " Pre rinsing? I had to clean them because my family refused to accept the dishwasher was broken until it fell through the rotting floor. "
<pie_> joepie91: nice
<pie_> "bookmarked"
<pie_> I have so many bookmarks theyve become meaningless
<joepie91> pie_: btw, to be clear, things have improved significantly since I wrote that, and I never actually finished the full rant
<pie_> too bad
<pie_> it shoudl be going on my preliminary how to design stuff list
<joepie91> so as a rant it's somewhat obsolete, but as documentation guidance it's probably still useful :P
<joepie91> I will probably properly publish it at some point with a "this is no longer up to date" note
<pie_> meanwhile, I cant figure out if i can use "compilation databases" to replace passing clang CLI arguments or not
<eyJhb> pie_: My ex girlfriends family had (most likely still does), have a dishwasher where you have to completely clean your plate before you put it in (so you could never tell if it was clean or not), and when they came out you had to dry them off because they were soaking. I never got the point of why they had it..
<pie_> >.>
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<cransom> a friend has a waste sorting system that no one is able to understand, and they also basically hand wash dishes before they go into the dish washer.
<eyJhb> It seemed more like storage.. :p
<eyJhb> cransom: Does your friend, or where he lives?
<cransom> pardon? couldn't parse that
<cole-h> Yeah, we use the dishwasher like storage right now. Wash by hand, let them dry in the dishwasher overnight, then unload sometime during the day
<eyJhb> At one point we had a sorting system in Aarhus, Denmark, where we had to sort a TON of things. It was then discovered, that all the sorted things was just mixed up later on in the process. So people stopped doing it
<eyJhb> cransom: Is it the friend that imposes the sorting system, or the complex where they live/city, etc.?
<eyJhb> cole-h: Is it broken?
<eyJhb> (not sure that made more sense cransom )
<cole-h> 11:10 <cole-h> (Note: this dishwasher has been out of service since 2013)
<cransom> oh, no, this is something they do (brother and sister). its some sort of optimizing to have to take out garbage as little as possible
<cole-h> Yes, very much broken lol
<eyJhb> cole-h: Ohhh... :| That sucks.
<eyJhb> cransom: Does it work ? :p
<joepie91> why not get a new one? or are they not trivially available second-hand over there?
<cole-h> joepie91: 11:10 <cole-h> My parents were supposed to get a new dishwasher installed today, but whoever built the house is such a moron that we need to redo the lines to the dishwasher before it can be replaced.
<joepie91> oh I missed that
<cole-h> Hehe
<joepie91> how, thougn
<cole-h> Also, money
<eyJhb> cole-h: Stop quoting yourself! \s
<joepie91> though*
<cole-h> eyJhb: :D
<joepie91> like, dishwashers don't care about anything?
<joepie91> so long as they can get water and dump water somehow, they're good
<eyJhb> joepie91: power?
<joepie91> well and power, lol, but not a lot
<eyJhb> No.. Basic plug, a oven sucks more...
<cole-h> It's been 7 years, so I don't remember exactly what broke, but the springs in the door (so that it doesn't slam into the ground) gave out.
<eyJhb> Seems weird :p Maybe where it is placed
<joepie91> dishwashers are pretty low-power for an appliance
<samueldr> (note that, as usual, appliances differ a lot across the ocean)
<joepie91> cole-h: ah yeah those suck
<samueldr> but yeah, low power compared to an oven
<joepie91> samueldr: the core mechanism of dishwashers seems univeral
<joepie91> universal&
<joepie91> universal*
<joepie91> I can type I swear
<eyJhb> samueldr: To which side do I go from Denmark regarding across the oceans? :| Dealers choice?
<samueldr> joepie91: does yours use hot or cold water from the tap?
<samueldr> here they use hot water, but as I was led to understand, in europe they are fed cold water
<joepie91> samueldr: cold, but I have seen a few reports now that hot-water dishwashers can actually do cold water too, most of the time
<eyJhb> Mine can do hot and cold
<samueldr> so yeah, they still can suck power when it re-heats water, or when they heat dry the dishes... but it's still on a normal 15A home circuit
<samueldr> but I don't think it qualifies as low power
<joepie91> and considering waves at TechConnections video basically all hot-water dishwashers are doing semi-cold water anyway :P
<eyJhb> samueldr: but it can run using a normal socket, not like a oven which requires a "special" outlet
<samueldr> yeah
<eyJhb> However, if you use shitty cables they will melt.
<eyJhb> :D
<eyJhb> *totally not experience*
<samueldr> but really our "special outlets" are mainly glorified two regular outlets
<samueldr> [with caveats regarding electric phase]
<eyJhb> Yeah, pretty much
<gchristensen> anyone know what it means to allow through a firewall?
<samueldr> isn't it an extremely implementation specific address?
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<bbigras> for wireguard, is every ips I think
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<eyJhb> joepie91: Do you have any nice way to organize your Matrix ? It seems like if you just have lets say, 10 IRC channels and some private conversations that it will be cluttered quite quick
<adisbladis> Learn to live with the clutter
<adisbladis> IRC clients are cluttered too
<eyJhb> adisbladis: Yeah, but as soon as I bridge it with IRC + Facebook, then I have a little extra :p
<eyJhb> Wondered if I could use communities thing, to clean it up a little
<adisbladis> eyJhb: I think the entire gui ui paradigm is incredibly bad at this
<eyJhb> Yeah, there are two things I am not a fan of atm. just regarding the Messenger integration, and that is 1. having to accept chat requests 2. not having a full list of all contacts available, but I guess that is more implementation oriented
<eyJhb> Do you use it is well adisbladis ? Matrix that is
<adisbladis> eyJhb: Yes, but not very actively
<srk> I want to bridge it to irc (bitlbee?)
<adisbladis> srk: If you're using weechat you can use matrix natively already
<srk> znc, irssi
<srk> hmm, sounds good tho
<adisbladis> srk: I'm switching to weechat from znc soon-ish I think
<adisbladis> Weechat can act as a regular irc bouncher nowadays I've heard
<srk> interesting
<adisbladis> So that's way more appealing for the mobile experience while I can keep using my local irc client as I normally do
<adisbladis> Feels like probably the best of both worlds
<srk> adisbladis: I've built https://github.com/pi-bouncer/pi-bouncer recently, dogfooding in pi4 nixos container :)
<srk> what I like about znc are multiple clients
<adisbladis> tilpner: Yeah, this is what I like about weechat
<adisbladis> The mobile experience is pretty great
<srk> looking at that I guess weechat can do multiple clients as well :D
<adisbladis> srk: It even has it's own more comprehensive protocol for multiple clients
<srk> cool!
<srk> well depends.. you can't just use any irc client :)
<adisbladis> srk: You can do that too ;)
<srk> hoped so!
<adisbladis> It's just that with the native protocol you get some extra fancyness
<srk> like better routing to active client?
<tilpner> Last I checked, you could not use weechat->weechat working over the relay protocol though
<srk> of pms
<cole-h> tilpner: Indeed. Still on the roadmap, but doesn't seem like it'll happen for a while (https://weechat.org/dev/roadmap/)
<elvishjerricco> I think someone here once told me there's a way to switch a GPU from being used by the host to being used by a VM without rebooting. How do you do that?
<ashkitten> ohhhhhhh i screwed up thats why pipewire in firefox wasnt working
<ashkitten> now i have to rebuild again...
<ashkitten> i wish nix had incremental builds...
<samueldr> that packages somehow were able to re-use build artifacts?
<samueldr> yeah, that would be nice
<pie_> elvishjerricco: tell me if you find out :P
<cole-h> elvishjerricco: Depends. Do care about having to exit to TTY?
<ashkitten> samueldr: or even just saving incremental nix build steps so if you only change postFixup it won't rebuild the whole thing
<elvishjerricco> cole-h: Don't think I do
<cole-h> Specifically, the default.nix and all the scripts.
<samueldr> interesting too
<elvishjerricco> cole-h: Thanks!
<elvishjerricco> cole-h++
<{^_^}> cole-h's karma got increased to 117
<samueldr> cole-h: you should have left me wallow in my own shame
<cole-h> samueldr: hehe
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<elvishjerricco> Yep
<cole-h> elvishjerricco: and if it's an Nvidia GPU, need to path the bios
<elvishjerricco> Cool
<cole-h> s/path/patch/
<cole-h> (Which only appears to work with Pascal)
<cole-h> (e.g. 1xxx)
<cole-h> Hm, this reinstall I probably should have tried to do LnL's trick so that I don't need to have every ZFS dataset mountpoint=legacy
<JJJollyjim> yeah:(
<elvishjerricco> cole-h: What is LnL's trick?
<cole-h> Apparently that lets him only need mountpoint=legacy for /nix (IIRC)