gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<bqv> eyJhb: much appreciated, ping me for anything
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<elvishjerricco> Do /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow need to have certain permissions? I'm working on my custom initrd and I can't get to an emergency shell because sulogin can't open the password database
<elvishjerricco> Oh, setting them to the same as on my host system didn't fix it.
<siraben> Why did worldofpeace leave?
<elvishjerricco> Look at this fun solution: `cp ${pkgs.bash}/bin/bash ${pkgs.util-linuxMinimal}/bin/sulogin`
<elvishjerricco> Oh can they not be symlinks?
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<lovesegfault> Good news: I finished building my shortwave radio!
<lovesegfault> Bad news: I don't have an antenna
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<lovesegfault> (cc. aei)
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<Ke> postspocalypse prep continues
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<eyJhb> lovesegfault: Do you REALLY nood an antenna?
<eyJhb> need* damn it :(
<lovesegfault> yes
<lovesegfault> otherwise I can't get good signal
<aaronjanse> Okay, one more GPT-3 screenshot:
<aaronjanse> Whoa, a shortwave radio sounds cool
<eyJhb> lovesegfault: Messing with you :p
<Church-> Okay think I've figured out getting all my services into containers and using a mesh of wg tunnels.
<Church-> Useless and unneeded but nifty
<pie_> Church-: cool send lonks
<Church-> Will do when it's working
<pie_> i spent the last two weeks noobing about trying to figure out how to route dhcp into a containers x'D
<pie_> serving rather
<Church-> Heh
<pie_> the idea of just configuring networking stuff is enticing compared to various conflicts and having to temporarily reconfigure half my system to run a dhcp server
<pie_> downside: attempting obscure networking stuff
<pie_> tcp/ip illustrated is a neat book. did you know the internet used to route broadcast packets but then they decided that was a bad idea?
<Church-> Indeed
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<ashkitten> it's kinda interesting how much of irc is just the server selectively reflecting messages to clients
<ashkitten> it's an interesting protocol
<ashkitten> theres a lot more symmetry between client vs server messages than a lot of more modern protocols
<philipp[m]> So it makes true to the claim of being a relay chat?
<ashkitten> i'd say so
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<eyJhb> After switching to doas, I am almost certain that sudo must have some autocompletion! I have never typed my password wrong that many times before the switch.
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<eyJhb> bqv: Tried to compile it earlier, didn't go well
<bqv> :(
<eyJhb> Also, I restarted my server where I was missing one directory in my statefullness dirs ... :(
<eyJhb> bqv: I only have my old setup, but I think something changed in the current version that makes it go funky
<eyJhb> I have updated my ticket on gradle2nix
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<supersandro2000> Finally nix-collect-garbage gave some storage free.
<eyJhb> How much?
<das_j> eyJhb: Is this a question about the pricing of marine life?
<supersandro2000> right now 51GB but it is still running
<eyJhb> das_j: Depends on the deal you can get me
<supersandro2000> and I have a good SSD :,|
<das_j> eyJhb: 3,80€
<supersandro2000> but it is probably running since 30 minutes
<tazjin> did I hallucinate that there was a NixOS option for automatically running gc at some % disk pressure, not on a timer?
<supersandro2000> yeah that won't work on Debian
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<supersandro2000> I think the nix.conf option does but not the configuration.nix one
<eyJhb> das_j: Should have done 3,5 :( What are the extra 0.3 for?
<gchristensen> tazjin: min/max-free
<das_j> eyJhb: German tax laws, sorry
<tazjin> gchristensen: ahhh, a Nix option, not a NixOS option - that explains my confusion, thanks
<gchristensen> yep
<supersandro2000> shy of 300GB
<supersandro2000> note: currently hard linking saves 18528.23 MiB
<supersandro2000> 1448529 store paths deleted, 291549.34 MiB freed
<gchristensen> nice
<supersandro2000> and ran 46 minutes on a Samsung 860 Evo
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<eyJhb> supersandro2000: 120 GB for me so far
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<ar> >My number one recommendation in security monitors: https://twitter.com/LitMoose/status/1381598084866703364
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<MichaelRaskin> Forget state by default? Yep, incredibly nice to have in my current setup
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<abathur> yeah, saw a lot of overlap there with things nixland pines for
<abathur> stumbled on it in the intro to https://arcan-fe.com/2021/04/12/introducing-pipeworld/ which is on lobste.rs today
<abathur> also maybe relevant is the about page for arcan https://arcan-fe.com/about/
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<ashkitten> another day another 16 hours to spend on my irc server
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<red[evilred]> gchristensen (IRC) I love how your tweet apparently woke up political bots
<gchristensen> I haven't seen them :P
<gchristensen> or do you mean Drew?
<red[evilred]> Comments about RNC and DNC
<gchristensen> oh, that is my neighbor :P
<red[evilred]> If you know them then I'm wrong, just seemed on-brand
<red[evilred]> Haha, okay
<gchristensen> suffix := time.Now().In(time.UTC).Format("20060102_150405_000") what is this magical format string
<cole-h> reminds me of oracle sql's to_string('yyyymmdd_hhmmss_whatever the ms thing was', date)
<AMG> this is old but i still love it https://paveldogreat.github.io/WebGL-Fluid-Simulation/
<AMG> especially on mobile, since it has multitouch on mobile
<__monty__> Does it use a fixed date? How else would it disambiguate year, month and day?
<gchristensen> it is using Go's reference time of Mon Jan 2 15:04:05 -0700 MST 2006
<__monty__> MST but _000?
<cole-h> milliseconds
<__monty__> Ah.
<__monty__> Is it to be less dependent on language? Because they're missing the goal by quite some distance, imo.
<__monty__> Is this for Cortana?
<hodapp> amg: there's also a neat calculus trick that you can do to get 'fake' fluid flow very cheaply and easily
<hodapp> I implemented something like this in Quil last year, somewhere...
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<AMG> yay
<philipp[m]> __monty__: Maybe our Bill Gates covid vaccination chips get even more features now?
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<hexa-> what would be a sensible interval to collect smart values from disks?
<hexa-> like, is there any impact on the disk if I read it too often?
<samueldr> doing it smartly
<samueldr> at a smart interval
<hexa-> you are smarty pants
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<joepie91> hexa-: AIUI reading out attributes is just a read from an internal flash(?) counter, whereas self tests actually involve disk interaction
<hexa-> yeah, that was my gut feeling, but no hard information
* samueldr resists
<joepie91> hexa-: hm. https://superuser.com/a/709384
<hexa-> samueldr: please don't, enterain me
<infinisil> Bisection. You don't want to read it never, and you don't want to do it all the time, so somewhere inbetween is a good value
<samueldr> the hard informations is on the hard disk
<hexa-> samueldr: more!
<infinisil> So do bisection between 0 and infinity :)
<hexa-> great, than I'm doing it right
<joepie91> infinisil: and if the drive dies it was too high? :P
<hexa-> must be
<infinisil> If our lord and savior Bisection needs more hard drives, he shall get more hard drives!
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