gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<supersandro2000> I didn't miss anything
<supersandro2000> as a tech minded person I usually just skip support sections all together because they tend to not contain useful information
<MichaelRaskin> Well, the trick is that you need to triage the sections a site has in terms of «which of these has best chances to be useful», not filter out extrapolating from sites with a different structure…
<supersandro2000> yeah I should do that
<supersandro2000> but I am more like: not this, not this, not this, nothing left, ... Ctrl +F source
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<MichaelRaskin> Makes perfect sense to try!
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<elvishjerricco> `ls: cannot access '.git/': Not a directory` hey what
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<MichaelRaskin> worktree?
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<MichaelRaskin> Or submodules?
<MichaelRaskin> Sometimes .git is a text file with the path to the actual .git directory elsewhere
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<aleph-> Hmm, think I'll package uugu
<pie_> whats taht
<pie_> *that
<aleph-> Temp file hosting software
<aleph-> Ala uugu.se or the closed fork at catbox.moe
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<pie_> ah ok
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<aaronjanse> Nice. I was processing a CSV file, then the OOM killer decided to kill x11
<aaronjanse> That as unhelpful
<aaronjanse> *was
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<pie_> at least for cli stuff you can keep em with tmux :<
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<eyJhb> elvishjerricco: Thanks for the config, it looks quite clean!
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: if you figure out how to get the VTs back after going back to Linux, let me know
<eyJhb> However, unsure of all the patching/rom stuff going on
<eyJhb> elvishjerricco: Yeah, it looks weird why they don't come back afterwards...
<eyJhb> I have a sneaking suspicion that my laptop will not be able to run that well, in such a setup
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: Ive forgotten why the ROM patching is necessary. It's something about the state of the device changing after the host system booted using it
<eyJhb> But it is only for.. External GPUs?
<elvishjerricco> Hm?
<eyJhb> Ie. I only have a Intel HD Graphics 4000 :p
<elvishjerricco> Oh
<eyJhb> So not sure if I would need to do that stuff as well
<elvishjerricco> I've got NO idea how any of this relates to different GPU manufacturers :P
<eyJhb> I run games using NVidia Now, so... The only way I can game
<eyJhb> Damn :D
<eyJhb> Before I look more into the Windows setup, I might check out how well it works in the browser now (NVidia Now)
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: Theres some pretty vibrant vfio communities that could probably answer these questions. Level1Techs has a forum with a lot about it
<elvishjerricco> What's nvidia now?
<eyJhb> Cloud based gaming/streaming of your game :D
<elvishjerricco> Huh. So the game runs on eg your desktop and streams to your portable or something?
<eyJhb> The game runs on NVidias servers, and then streams to my laptop :D
<elvishjerricco> Ooh
<eyJhb> So I don't own any of the hardware I play on, and pay like 45 DKK a month for it. ANd then I can play all the games I want (the ones they have)
<elvishjerricco> One of THOSE services
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<eyJhb> And the hardware they have is pretty nice :p
<eyJhb> Yeah.. I really want to have a computer, which I can use for something like Steam Play...
<eyJhb> But no money for it atm... Not sure how well my next laptop will do :p
<elvishjerricco> The hellish state that the gaming industry seems to be in right now makes me glad I never really got into gaming :P
<eyJhb> But I guess you would understand why it makes sense, when my best GPU is... From 2011
<eyJhb> :D True
<elvishjerricco> I made my windows vm so I COULD do some gaming, thinking I'd get back into space engineers or something. But A) that never came to pass, and B) steam proton came out like a month later :P
<elvishjerricco> And honestly proton has been flawless for me the few times I've used it
<eyJhb> I really like the prospect of Proton :D But I... As stated, don't have the hardware for it :D Are you on a desktop elvishjerricco ?
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<elvishjerricco> Yea I've got a desktop with wildly different levels of power for the cpu and gpu :P 16c/32t Threadripper 1950X paired with a... GTX 1050 Ti
<elvishjerricco> 64G of RAM. I think it's 4G of VRAM
<elvishjerricco> Or whatever GPU ram is called
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: If you don't have the hardware for proton, vfio+windows won't do well either :P
<eyJhb> No no, I wanted to do vfio+windows to run NVidia Now :D
<eyJhb> No Linux client. However, it seems like they have improved upon the browser implementation!
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<elvishjerricco> Oh!
<elvishjerricco> Got it
<elvishjerricco> Browser implementation sounds interesting. Wonder how they accomplished that
<eyJhb> Trying to record something, but that sucks....
<eyJhb> Same
<eyJhb> I am guessing .NET stuff
<eyJhb> And then there is some .NET to webasm
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: Interesting... Does it require any specific browser?
<eyJhb> Chrome is the one I think they want you to use
<eyJhb> However, I have a issue with it not working to prioritise the Chromium instance...
<eyJhb> *I think
<eyJhb> So sometimes it runs 10/10 well, other times 1/10
<elvishjerricco> Hm. Yea I use Firefox just to de-Google myself, but I do have to switch to chromium for certain things because FF just lacks a bunch of performance features. If it'd further require me to jump to Chrome proper, I'd stay far away :P
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: Does nvidia now store all your game data on the cloud, or does it just do the game processing there?
<eyJhb> I use chromium daily, but I should make the switch at some point to FF. I just like how sleak Chromium looks. Also, I cannot sign in to Gitlab atm. using Chromium, it is insane
<eyJhb> Atm. I have only played games on Steam (I mostly play ARK survival evolved with my girlfriend), so in that case Steam will store anything for you
<elvishjerricco> In this case, storing stuff on the cloud would actually be a benefit because I don't care about the security of game data, and I'd rather not give Windows any sense of persistence :P
<eyJhb> *and importance! It shall not think it is a worthy OS
<eyJhb> Are you using the Nixos stuff for Steam btw.?/proton stuff
<elvishjerricco> eyJhb: what do you mean by NixOS stuff?
<eyJhb> nixpkgs
<eyJhb> I remember your setup being super special, so I am unsure how much of Nix you actually use in your OS :p
<eyJhb> > pkgs.steam
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/4736607iy4fdlcfq3csla6jyb05q980q-steam.drv>"
<elvishjerricco> Oh. Yea my system is just NixOS deployed with nixops but like a ton of custom modules and stuff
<elvishjerricco> But yea I just use pkgs.steam
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<eyJhb> elvishjerricco: I think you can also do - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/geforce-now-unlocker/
<eyJhb> Btw, you can try it out for free :D
<eyJhb> *if you are really curious
<ldlework> Anyone in here secretly a wizard with Typescript mapped tuples?
<eyJhb> Maybe it is i3 that is giving me input lag?
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<ar> replacing soldered ram in a laptop (thread): https://twitter.com/GregDavill/status/1362549525123010560
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<eyJhb> ar: want... Looks super nice, and some nice tools :D
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<eyJhb> -chat has been really quiet today
<gchristensen> easter sunday presumably
<eyJhb> Yes. My neighbours is screaming and getting waaay too drunk atm.
<eyJhb> are screaming*?
<gchristensen> are indeed
<aleph-> Fun
<aleph-> I'm packaging up wgsd for coreDNS myself
<aleph-> Get to do some fun wg mesh stuff then
<MichaelRaskin> eyJhb: probably «are» even with «, correspondingly» at the end
<aleph-> Wondering if I should get vpp packaged as well...
<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin: I am the king in mixing are and is
<eyJhb> I think 99% of the time, I switch them around.
<eyJhb> My group has been known to replace them all
<MichaelRaskin> I guess Danish having a «to be»-form in the sentences but just using «er» all around does not help
<eyJhb> We have something even worse, when we speak we use "a" (which is not a Danish word), to mean either "af" or "ad"
<MichaelRaskin> Argh!
<eyJhb> *trying to think of the translation, but it is a binding word... Soo...
<eyJhb> But we are just so sluggish. And most of the time, not even sure what to use
<MichaelRaskin> af is more or less «of»
<samueldr> is that the one language that's joked to be the drunk version of that other one I forgot?
<eyJhb> down the road -> ned a (af) vejen :p
<eyJhb> samueldr: Potato language for some I guess
<eyJhb> We also have... `gang`, which is super fun... gang -> hallway, i gang -> doing something, gangen -> the hallway, gange -> multiply something
<MichaelRaskin> samueldr: I think any combination of Scandinavian languages should work… Norvegian is closer orthographically, but I think Swedish is more frequently used
<MichaelRaskin> eyJhb: gang somehow didn't annoy me much. Pass/passage almost covers it
<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin: Hvor meget dansk kan du lige?
<MichaelRaskin> Jeg kan ikke danske schreiben
<eyJhb> Well, that went fairly well :D
<MichaelRaskin> But I do glance at DR.dk headlines sometimes.
<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin++
<{^_^}> MichaelRaskin's karma got increased to 52
<MichaelRaskin> I worked in Aarhus a bit over a year, reading is ̣… quite useful for that. Writing is very much optional, speaking… just too hard
<eyJhb> Speaking?! Easy
<eyJhb> Rød grød med fløde MichaelRaskin !
<samueldr> see, ø doesn't make any sense in a word
<samueldr> that's the smal null set
<MichaelRaskin> Nope, the letter that makes no sense is actually d
<eyJhb> And h I assume MichaelRaskin ?
<eyJhb> You can get a long way with hvad -> va :D
<MichaelRaskin> I mean, h being pronounced or not is basically the normal horror of English. And French.
<MichaelRaskin> Especially in the beginning.
<eyJhb> Don't you dare compare French to Danish :o
<samueldr> what's wrong with H? ;)
<MichaelRaskin> I think both d and t can be read as basically l in Danish
<MichaelRaskin> Sometimes™
<MichaelRaskin> samueldr: what is wrong with H is that too often nothing would be wrong even without h
<samueldr> oh wow
<samueldr> (sorry, not about you)
<samueldr> I love getting condescended upon on a subject I know
<eyJhb> hvad, hvor, hvorfor, hvordan, etc. etc. etc
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<samueldr> just now getting talked down on another channel about how something NixOS is totally already doing is pure luck and impossible
<MichaelRaskin> I think meget can be pretty well approximated as mal for non-Danish speakers
<eyJhb> samueldr: :o Which channel and what?
<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin: I.. I cannot say yes to that, but I have a Danish ear for it I guess
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<MichaelRaskin> eyJhb: find a better English approximation or it did happen
<samueldr> eyJhb: I'm not crass enough to tattle
<samueldr> (and anyway it's not the first time on different places and different topics)
<eyJhb> samueldr: 100% sure you know NOTHING about running a Linux like OS on mobile hardware \s but sounds really annoying
<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin: hmm...
<eyJhb> maget?
<eyJhb> Not sure...
<eyJhb> I cannot get it to be "mal"
<eyJhb> Maybe if you heard it from someone from down south
<eyJhb> meget -> mag/meg when you slang it
<eyJhb> Eller møg
<eyJhb> Which is meget and .. shit
<MichaelRaskin> I am pretty sure there was no [g] audible
<MichaelRaskin> South as in south of Aalborg?
<eyJhb> South as in, close to Germany
<eyJhb> Have you heard about mojn?
<MichaelRaskin> No
<eyJhb> OHh, it is wonderful. It is the only real contribution they have done
<eyJhb> Mojn is both, hello and goodbye, it is also a "hello, goodbye" in one go
<MichaelRaskin> Who?
<eyJhb> If you are unsure about anything, just say mojn
<eyJhb> Sønderjylland -> Southren Jutland
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<eyJhb> I really really suck at designing webpages... Currently looking for a good CSS framework. And might end up with bootstrap. Simply because of the number of examples
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<MichaelRaskin> I am pretty sure Duolingo found some Danish people who pronounce meget with a sound closer to l than you describe
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<eyJhb> Try getting this read u
<eyJhb> up*
<MichaelRaskin> The what
<MichaelRaskin> Did Google also break Translate playback in Firefox?
<eyJhb> Works fine in my FF
<MichaelRaskin> Yep, clearly mal
<eyJhb> Can somebody else confirm they hear it as that? :p
<MichaelRaskin> And also state the native language, I guess
<MichaelRaskin> Mine is Russian
<__monty__> I get Voice Output is not supported on this browser, using FF.
<MichaelRaskin> I eventually launched FF instance with jail permitting access to enough sound
<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin: `"Mar" with a French "R".` Polish
<MichaelRaskin> Hm. I might buy that eg gives not just a but ay or ar, but I feel there is an l from t in the end
<__monty__> I hear mahl (or ever mahel) too.
<__monty__> (Dutch)
<MichaelRaskin> eyJhb: I guess you speak Danish too well
<MichaelRaskin> (For the record, I can hold a conversation in Russian, English, and French, in that order; I read in German way easier than in Danish, and whenever I write German I literally use Duden checker to grammar check every sentence I write)
<gh0st[m]2> Dang, I wish I knew more than English and a little bit of Spanish
<__monty__> gh0st[m]2: Duolingo's a good start actually. Because it's easy to stay consistent at.
<MichaelRaskin> Yep, it definitely trains me enough to get to reading comprehension level
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<lovesegfault> ,locate bin pdflatex
<{^_^}> Found in packages: tetex, texlive.combined.scheme-full, texlive.combined.scheme-gust, texlive.combined.scheme-basic, texlive.combined.scheme-small, texlive.combined.scheme-tetex, texlive.combined.scheme-medium, texlive.combined.scheme-context, texlive.combined.scheme-minimal
<samueldr> lovesegfault: good luck
<samueldr> :)
* lovesegfault cries a little
<lovesegfault> I wrote a doc in markdown
<lovesegfault> then I realized the people reading it aren't engineers
<samueldr> cries minimal, small, basic, medium, gust, full?
<lovesegfault> so I was like "pandoc to pdf!"
<lovesegfault> but it looks like ass, my images are all borked
<lovesegfault> so I'm just going to rewrite it in latex :P
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