<srk>
recently I was updating one instance using their tooling and it took like an hour of downtime until it upgraded postgres and itself. little scary
<talyz>
srk: oh yeah, that's a bit scary
<talyz>
srk: i hope we won't have any massive issues with upgrades on nixos, but it's a bit too early to say
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<talyz>
srk: you're of course more than welcome to help out with maintenance if you want :)
<srk>
sure!
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<samueldr>
pie_: fun fact: the animated overlays for NixCon 2019 were actually video files with actual alpha!
<pie_>
huh
<samueldr>
at that time I also had a "mfw" moment
<pie_>
but like using that in a video editor kinda makes more intuitive sense than that working in the os
<samueldr>
mpv (or was it vlc?) showed the usual grid of squares as a background :)
<pie_>
its not that i expect it _not_ to work, its that i wouldnt expect it to work
<samueldr>
the other IIRC was entirely black
<pie_>
could probably do some neat overlays if you could get transparency
<samueldr>
though I never tried to find a video player that would send that fourth channel to the window alpha layer (for compositors)
<pie_>
but consider: transparenct _AND CLICKTHROUGH_
<samueldr>
yeah
<pie_>
would be a neat gimmick
<pie_>
though windows had those characters you could have on your desktop and stuff, idk if they had clickthrough on the transparency but at the least it seems theres some support
<__monty__>
When builds take too long so you start a couple and then walk away from the computer in the hope you managed to fix the error in at least one of them...
<hodapp>
*laughs in machine learning*
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<pie_>
__monty__: mfw
<pie_>
__monty__: i also started using inotify to notify me of long jobs recently so that idont keep checking if theyre done yet
<Church->
Heh
<philipp[m]>
Ahahahaha! Peak German internet. The German Telekom now refuses to accept mail from mail servers that don't have an Impressum (legal notice about the authors name you need in certain cases when you publish stuff in Germany) in certain cases they don't disclose.
<pie_>
wh
<pie_>
at?
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<hexa->
philipp[m]: nothing new
<hexa->
they do whitelisting for several years now
<hexa->
if you mail them at tosa@ they usually reply within hours, even on weekends
<hexa->
I didn't have a homepage on my mailserver, yet they whitelisted me *shrug*
<hexa->
but yeah, laughable
<philipp[m]>
Yeah, that's how it worked for me, too.
<philipp[m]>
Now they didn't want to whitelist a buddy of mine because no Impressum.
<philipp[m]>
I just love that there isn't even a word for impressum in English. German lawyers are just on another level, I tell you.
<hodapp>
hrm. I just realized my late grandfather gave me a copy of XPlane and (I think) the full flight control setup, as he wasn't able to run it on his machine despite the specs being okay per the box
<hodapp>
I knew I had it but it's been years and I forgot about it
<ashkitten>
any yall play fs2020?
<ashkitten>
i've been really loving just flying around low to the ground and looking at scenery
<ashkitten>
especially in vr
<philipp[m]>
It's on "the list"
<hexa->
ashkitten: #nixos-security has some prs that need reviews :)
<ashkitten>
believe me, if i had the focus to look at code rn i'd be working on my custom irc server
<philipp[m]>
(The list of stuff I don't g
<philipp[m]>
et to because I'm playing Rocket League that is)
<ashkitten>
pff
<ashkitten>
i have 3 whole games i'm tunneled on :D
<samueldr>
I almost 100%'d age of calamity while waiting for long rebuilds over a few months
<samueldr>
but those korok seeds... it really brought the game down a few notches that they are "required" to unlock everything, flying in the face of BOTW where you only have to collect a fraction (was it one or two third?) to unlock everything
<philipp[m]>
ashkitten: I honestly don't know whether that's better or worse :D
<ashkitten>
idk, at least i don't get burned out on one
<__monty__>
A custom IRC server? Curious undertaking.
<samueldr>
from my experience, that's probably a fun undertaking!
<philipp[m]>
Ugh. It seems really hard to get nyogel 767a outside fo the US.
<Church->
Man making a soup has so much dang prep
<samueldr>
sure, but you're assuming a lot here... like assuming my intent was to stay a small player just for fun
<samueldr>
and there's also a butterfly effect kind of thing... assuming lots of nerds and geeks started using it with lesser tech-inclined people (because this was a goal) it could have been an additional player to displace
<samueldr>
really with the web interface thing, the goal I had in mind was to become a silo for communication
<samueldr>
now we're a decade too late to really do that I guess
<__monty__>
You wanted to lock people into your platform?
<samueldr>
I didn't say I was perfect
<pie_>
wouldnt you prefer samueldr tho? :P
<samueldr>
I'd prefer samueldr yes
<samueldr>
(sorry, the sentence doesn't scan to me)
<__monty__>
pie_: Absolute power corrupts absolutely, even samueldr : p
<pie_>
nahhhh just a little corruption ;pp
<samueldr>
can't harm me
<samueldr>
I know when to stop
<samueldr>
though thinking back... I always had in mind that *identity* shouldn't be centralized, but the rest it really depends
<samueldr>
e.g. https://github.com/samueldr BAD, I need to be in control of the identifier to move it to any provider
<samueldr>
if I had spent time on that project, I don't know how I could have made anything like that work
<samueldr>
in fact it was one of the interesting features of early bitbucket
<philipp[m]>
Lubrication is fascinating!
<samueldr>
you could e.g. make source.samueldr.com point to your organization / username project
<__monty__>
You'd've stuck a TODO on it and never followed through : )
<samueldr>
and while it's backed by bitbucket, you were in control of the identity
<samueldr>
__monty__: entirely plausible!
<adisbladis>
philipp[m]: I can't forgive them for dropping irc/xmpp...
<tazjin>
<samueldr> though thinking back... I always had in mind that *identity* shouldn't be centralized, but the rest it really depends <- scuttlebutt!
<tazjin>
it'll never be a thing unfortunately
<tazjin>
but it'd solve this
<samueldr>
you calling me a what now?
<samueldr>
;)
<tazjin>
the name certainly isn't helping it :p
<tazjin>
it's not a widely known word, esp. for non-native speakers
<tazjin>
so it just sounds rude
<samueldr>
I love seeing things that are years younger than when I was thinking (but doing nothing) about the problem :)
<samueldr>
so yeah, probably at the base of my pyramid of needs in "services", is that the user should be in control of the "identifier"
<samueldr>
so a good *service* for hosting git would allow you to use a domain name you control
<__monty__>
tazjin: I think that's a plus tbh. Get popular with school kids, grow into power when the generation matures : )
<samueldr>
so that when you want to move, you keep the identifier you had
<__monty__>
Hmm, sr.ht sounds a little bit like this. Because the mailing list is the important bit really.
<samueldr>
(about the service) not really, because you still use sr.ht urls to clone
<samueldr>
and resources about the project are on an sr.ht domain
<samueldr>
sure, you can host it, but that was me thinking out loud about *services*
<samueldr>
moving to another service (or starting to self-host) is disruptive as links become stale, and configuration needs to be changed for every users**
<samueldr>
**: it's highly likely that changing services would break links and not actually continue working with configurations... but you're already closer to *being able to* do it
<samueldr>
e.g. look at some of the projects that left github.com to go to gitlab.com, repos frozen in time, in archived mode
<samueldr>
no *possibility* to make redirects work
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<pie_>
wasnt there something for excluding a module import so i can import a different version
<AkechiShiro>
Hi, all I've sent a question about Summer of Nix by email the 4 April and have yet to receive an answer ? Could someone tell me how can I reach anyone behind the program ?
<samueldr>
>> What are the application deadlines? - There are no fixed deadlines but we plan to select and confirm participants twice, on May 15th and on July 1st so that they have a definite confirmation
<samueldr>
oh, a question!
<samueldr>
sorry, I misread you
<samueldr>
uh, I'll poke Rok Garbas about that, I assume they maybe assume only applications are being e-mailed and are not tending to the mailbox?
<samueldr>
AkechiShiro: I poked them, though it's unclear if they'll see it before the start of the work week
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<AkechiShiro>
samueldr: Thanks a bunch !
<samueldr>
AkechiShiro: if by mid-week there is no answer still, I invite you to go on #nixos-dev and ping garbas[m]
<samueldr>
(stating why :))
<AkechiShiro>
samueldr: Alright, so I should ping him and ask questions directly to him ?
<samueldr>
I'm not sure what his actual involvement is
<samueldr>
but he's involved
<samueldr>
so at the very least he should know who can do what
<samueldr>
oh, during business hours in europe
<samueldr>
it would help
<AkechiShiro>
Good, thanks for all the helpful info, I'll do that if I have no answer by the mid-next week.
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