<ashkitten>
tbh just building everything with separate debug symbols but deleting the debug output by default would achieve the same thing without impurities or hassle
<supersandro2000>
gchristensen: What do I get for looking at all of cole-h PRs and nitting the same 5 things on all of them?
<gchristensen>
hah
<gchristensen>
good question :)
<supersandro2000>
I really should have done something else instead but that would require me to actually think a bit more
<gchristensen>
supersandro2000: I think some of your nits are counter to nixpkgs-fmt
<supersandro2000>
gchristensen: you mean the }: part?
<gchristensen>
yea
<supersandro2000>
It shouldn't change it to either way.
<supersandro2000>
well that probably the least important part :P
<gchristensen>
:)
<aleph->
Oh there's a formatter? Awesome
<supersandro2000>
nixpkgs-fmt
<supersandro2000>
cole-h: you can ignore that part tbh
<aleph->
So here's a question, can anyone think of a reason for a binary to coredump only when run under a systemd service?
<samueldr>
ulimit stuff?
<aleph->
Hmm. That's an idea to look into.
<samueldr>
I only know superficially that it configures, among other things, coredump stuff
<aleph->
Was gonna try stracing it inside the service next.
<samueldr>
otherwise maybe some place in the systemd manual there's hints?
<aleph->
Maybe
<aleph->
Been driving me batty
<supersandro2000>
figure out where it coredumps and then you know why
<gchristensen>
just draw the rest of the owl =)
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<aleph->
Haha
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<aleph->
Okay yeah not just a nixOS issue. Happens on debian too.
<aleph->
Man at this point I should write a script to munge the data... grumble
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: gst_all_1.gst-plugins-bad.dev
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<supersandro2000>
ldlework: not great without https
<supersandro2000>
I get a fat HTTPS Everywhere warning
<ldlework>
you did this to yourself
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<cole-h>
supersandro2000++ Thanks for all your reviews. I'm unfamiliar with our Python stuff (aside from getting it to build), so your feedback is much appreciated.
<{^_^}>
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<supersandro2000>
cole-h: let me know when you have a question or do another batch
<Mic92>
supersandro2000: need more ips?
<supersandro2000>
ip?
<supersandro2000>
ips?
<cole-h>
supersandro2000: That's it for the time being :P Though I'll be going through all your suggestions shortly (and leading into tomorrow)
<supersandro2000>
cole-h: also technically python runs ``python setup.py test`` but that does not always work and is not really explicit :P using pytest or nose directly makes it clear how to run the tests
<supersandro2000>
Mic92: oh for GitHub? I could probably teach my gitea to authenticate the mirroring and then everything would be great again
<supersandro2000>
also do I want to use the altertmanager of prometheus or grafana?
<supersandro2000>
also github actions are miss behaving again: ``GitHub Actions has encountered an internal error when running your job.`` and error with no log.
<Mic92>
I prefer prometheus + alertmanager
<Mic92>
The rules are more declarativ and less tedious to set up
<supersandro2000>
I have a panel which shows a boolean state and grafana cannot create an alert from that
<__monty__>
Who knew two weeks of working on stdenv would accrue so many xzs o.O
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: yeah, that's the disappointment
<__monty__>
Oh, wanted to ask is discussion about compression formats for the binary cache ongoing anywhere?
<MichaelRaskin>
I am sad that this is now a historic entry so nobody else is able to do the same
<__monty__>
That makes it all the more hilarious though.
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, I dislike that «but you came late so you cannot have the same thing» situation
<__monty__>
People go "Ah yes, you just did /nick whatever and then... Wait 🤔, hmm. Confound it!"
<MichaelRaskin>
It was never possible with /nick
<MichaelRaskin>
But nowadays if you try to do the same trick, {^_^} will reject it
<__monty__>
Yeah but giving the constraints you can observe now that's what people would assume.
<__monty__>
I don't like exclusionary things either but it's rather harmless for such a frivolous thing.
<MichaelRaskin>
You know, it's a bit of «dinosaur bones planted to test our faith» situation
<MichaelRaskin>
You cannot fully understand it without knowledge of detailed history
<MichaelRaskin>
And it's not _that_ hilarious to be worth that knowledge
<MichaelRaskin>
I mean, it still kind of works for «every day is the Unicode awareness day», but exclusivity spoils the message
<MichaelRaskin>
What's point of awareness if you need old-time privileges to abuse your awareness!
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<pie_>
so this is about noone being able to understand in-jokes eh?
<MichaelRaskin>
It is about something becoming an unreproducible in-joke!
<MichaelRaskin>
hexa-: now that you mention it, the idea of being declared too grumpy to comment for a day (but you can still merge if even your grumpiness doesn't make you dislike the PR) sounds intriguing
<samueldr>
it's been multiple years, more than 5, since I last used facebook
<samueldr>
but I bet I know how this "hack" works
<samueldr>
and if it does... I sadly assumed it was a feature
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<MichaelRaskin>
I like Facebook being on record saying that a data leak is a feature working as intended — in 2019. Should simplify the most annoying part of the court case when Facebook inevitably appeals the fine they are going to bet
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<MichaelRaskin>
Hm. So if Discord extorts a phone number, verifying only the email means being unable to send messages, but notifications still come to the email? Actually, that's what I wanted for this account anyway…
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<pie_>
oh no why is all the freenode leaving
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<samueldr>
I don't intend to leave
<samueldr>
??
<samueldr>
pie_: what was that about?
<pie_>
:P <-- IKEA (swant@freenode/staff/swant) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
<das_j>
For me it's just: IKEA joined and left, Swant left
<das_j>
also Swant came back after your message
<das_j>
(sorry for the pings)
<pie_>
oh weird quessel coloring behaviour
<Swant>
Hi
<das_j>
Hey, welcome back
<pie_>
i didn tnotice the return because it got colored different
<Swant>
Well znc decided to crash when I changed nicks :c
<samueldr>
oh, freenode staffers!
<Swant>
Samueldr I've been here the whole time!
<Swant>
Well that's a lie
<samueldr>
[16:46:06] <pie_> oh no why is all the freenode leaving
<samueldr>
I thought pie_ was saying there was a netsplit or something like that
<Swant>
I joined at some point because there were rumors of people speaking Swedish in all caps
<samueldr>
unfounded
<samueldr>
did you read that on the internet?
<samueldr>
you can't believe everything on the internet
<pie_>
:D
<Swant>
All right let's see if znc hates me now
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<IKEA>
BLÅHAJ
<pie_>
you need more nix
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<Swant>
Fun fact, it does!
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<samueldr>
ugh, compiling two kernels at once
<samueldr>
or how to get annoyed that neither are finishing quickly
<das_j>
samueldr: Throwback to 4 hours ago when I had to compile 4 sambas at once
<das_j>
I had to get coffee because my PC was almost unusable
<samueldr>
just four lil' dances
<samueldr>
ah, I send builds away on a computer that's not used "interactively"
<samueldr>
I don't hate myself :)
<das_j>
well I do
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<samueldr>
no, don't hate yourself
<samueldr>
though on my interactive machines I use the nix nice option
<samueldr>
not sure it actually helps, didn't "benchmark" anything
<das_j>
oh that's a good idea
<das_j>
I could also configure our hydra builders at remote builders for my local nix…
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<samueldr>
ionice would probably be more worth it in some cases
<das_j>
Can't you do that with systemd?
<das_j>
yup, serviceConfig.IOSchedulingPriority
<das_j>
and IOSchedulingClass
<das_j>
…unless you don't do builds with the daemon but yeah
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<pie_>
i want to have more fun but all i do is get frustrated at how i dont understand the (linux) network stack
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<__monty__>
Oh my god, the amount of times building stdenv builds cmake 😭
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<aleph->
heheheh
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<lovesegfault>
Any haskellers around?
<DigitalKiwi>
no haskell only bash
<DigitalKiwi>
shellcheck? what's that
<gchristensen>
just write shellcheck in bash
<samueldr>
hmm... there's ghcjs... when's ghcsh going to be a thing?
<infinisil>
,ask lovesegfault
<{^_^}>
lovesegfault: Just ask your question. It's the best way to know if anybody can help
<__monty__>
We're not a cabal for nothing, we never admit publically we're haskellers.
<lovesegfault>
infinisil: My question is does any haskeller want to pair with me on solving a simple problem (turning a sentence into an acronym)
<lovesegfault>
trying to learn and getting stuck
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<DigitalKiwi>
П> map (\x -> toUpper( head x)) (words "turn this into an acronymn")
<DigitalKiwi>
"TTIAA"
<lovesegfault>
Do you have 5min to drop into a tmate session?
<DigitalKiwi>
which is of course the same as
<DigitalKiwi>
П> map (toUpper . head ) (words "turn this into an acronymn")
<DigitalKiwi>
"TTIAA"
<DigitalKiwi>
also head is a partial function boo hiss don't do that lol ;p
<infinisil>
DigitalKiwi: I know it's hard, but when people ask for help with something, they don't want you to solve it for them!
<DigitalKiwi>
:(
<DigitalKiwi>
i was hoping they'd come up with better solution
<elvishjerricco>
They put the M1 in the iPad Pro, and now it can have 8 or 16 gigs of RAM. They've got to be planning on letting you run mac apps on iPadOS with that, right?
<MichaelRaskin>
Nah, they just don't want to fall behind the RAM requirements of browsing the modern Web
<elvishjerricco>
lol
<samueldr>
elvishjerricco: note that M1 does not mean "computer flavoured" M1
<samueldr>
the M1 is the A14X
<samueldr>
always has been
<samueldr>
so I wouldn't expect it to be as open as the laptops
<samueldr>
it's 99% sure it's going to be just the good ol' boot chain