gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<infinisil> Argh, I dived too deep into disturbing wiki articles
<infinisil> Can't recommend
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<Church_> Oh?
<Church_> Do go on with this knowledge most forbidden
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<infinisil> Much better waste of time! ^
<Church_> Heheh
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<Church_> God I feel this in my bones and sinews
<name54> No luck on kickstarter, huh church? '=( Funny comic! They claim where there's a will there's a way.
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<Church-> Heh
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<JJJollyjim> im kinda missing the old nixos option search :(
<JJJollyjim> it takes a full second to search for something or switch pages, and it used to be instant on typing
<hexa-> same.
<samueldr> does it actually take a full second?
<samueldr> that would be bad
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<samueldr> btw, I'm looking for actual issues, not to tell you you're wrong :)
<JJJollyjim> i live in new zealand, roundtrips to us-east-1 are 300ms
<danderson> same. The instant autocomplete was magic for quickly iterating on configs. Now that it's a "type a word and hit enter", it feels much slower to return
<danderson> I can't comment on the RTT because I'm in temporary housing with hilariously bad internet, so everything is slow always :)
<samueldr> danderson: yeah, the feedback from working with the full dataset is something I knew would get to some people (me included)
<JJJollyjim> is the full dataset too big to download?
<samueldr> for the options, no
<JJJollyjim> it fits in a single man page right?
<danderson> otoh, the fact that it doesn't take 5s to load any more is also nice :)
<samueldr> for the packags, it was already past the limit and didn't actually index everything
<JJJollyjim> yeah understandable for the packages
<samueldr> yeah
<JJJollyjim> it's definitely an improvement there
<JJJollyjim> i'd rather go back to the old one for options though :(
<danderson> once upon a time, google did "psychic search", where they fired off a search request on every keystroke, and live-updated the results
<danderson> cost 100x more in resources to run all the useless searches, but it was pretty amazing when it worked :)
<danderson> might DoS elasticsearch though :D
<samueldr> JJJollyjim: the good news is that nothing is set in stone, and we're all human (still) working on the site
<JJJollyjim> are there big advantages having the codebase merged into one?
<samueldr> yes
<samueldr> though merging the codebase doesn't mean we *have* to merge the backends
<JJJollyjim> hmm
<samueldr> I guess we could figure out a way to use the previous type of backend for options
<JJJollyjim> i could have a look at contributing that if you want
<danderson> I also don't mean to complain about the lovely free things I'm getting. I'm still pretty happy, and if this search can now also return packages... that's kind of a big deal
<JJJollyjim> being the most incentivized to due to latency :P
<danderson> oh man, yeah, I missed that. Game changer!
<samueldr> yeah, latency is an issue here :/
<samueldr> I poked the lead of that project with a note about the latency issue
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<samueldr> (you are free to _also_ open an issue https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-search/issues if you desire)
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<JJJollyjim> ah #151 is already there
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/151 (by jcumming, 7 years ago, closed): fix spl license, add workarounds for zfs on i686-linux and linux-3.6
<samueldr> one inconvenient about having a non-elasticsearch data source would be the fuzzy search
<samueldr> JJJollyjim: add a note about your latencies
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<samueldr> like, I personally have acceptable latencies and I just hate the change for the instant search :)
<cole-h> srhb: Ping
<samueldr> while *you* have a proper *problem*
<samueldr> and it's a problem I don't like seeing someone having considering the tradeoff was that searches were still fast
<samueldr> there was live as-you-type search thing that got put on the backburner as it had other issues, but in your particular case it wouldn't help at all
<samueldr> (oh, and anyone reading, please report issues too or else it'll stay broken for you :))
<JJJollyjim> ty :)
<JJJollyjim> also opened a separate issue since the endpoint doesn't have access-control-max-age, doubling the latency
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<samueldr> I'm not involved *directly* with the new search, I was tangent to the new implementation, meaning that I was involved in testing and making sure it at least (to my eye) was 1:1 in feature
<samueldr> (minus the as-you-type)
<JJJollyjim> Oh i guess the backend is controlled by a third party
<samueldr> yeah
<JJJollyjim> do you have a contact there who might be able to add the header?
<samueldr> hopefully
<samueldr> at the very worst it's just elastic search, so other providers are welcome if they are geographically diverse
<samueldr> (better than locking the implementation in a specific vendor ecosystem)
<JJJollyjim> hmm
<JJJollyjim> webassembly a jvm and run elasticsearch in the client? :D
<JJJollyjim> this will surely solve all the memory usage problems :D
<samueldr> heh, for options it wouldn't be such an issues, I e.g. lunr could be used too... but whew for the packages!
<samueldr> (if you are not aware https://lunrjs.com/docs/index.html lunr is a client-side index thing in js)
<JJJollyjim> oh cool
<samueldr> it would make the fuzzy searching work appropriately
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<eyJhb> What have you been doing LnL ?
<LnL> hm?
<LnL> guess my connection is being weird
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<ar> LnL: that looks like your client doing weird things
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<eyJhb> Anyone that has experience with USB-C "car chargers" in regards to laptops?
<eyJhb> Seems cool, without having a big bulky adapter in the car. But just a little small one with USB. But can only find sowe with 45W
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<samueldr> without cheating (looking it up) what does the <b> html element stand for?
<__monty__> Boldface, surely?
<samueldr> *sad buzzer noise*
<samueldr> >> The HTML Bring Attention To element (<b>) is used to draw the reader's attention to the element's contents, which are not otherwise granted special importance.
<__monty__> Sounds like backronym levels of retconning.
<__monty__> Because HTML is supposed to be "semantic" markup.
<__monty__> ; p
<samueldr> yes
<samueldr> >> The HTML Idiomatic Text element (<i>)
<samueldr> sams energy
<samueldr> same*
<samueldr> >> The HTML <s> element renders text with a strikethrough, or a line through it
<samueldr> they didn't even try!
<samueldr> >> The HTML Unarticulated Annotation element (<u>)
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<MichaelRaskin> Obviously <s> is Suppression?
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<samueldr> no!
<samueldr> >> However, <s> is not appropriate when indicating document edits; for that, use the <del> and <ins> elements, as appropriate.
<MichaelRaskin> «no longer accurate or no longer relevant» — sounds like stale
<MichaelRaskin> But yeah, brought by the people who can pronounce «Living Standard» with a straight face
<samueldr> exactly :)
<samueldr> HTML should be versioned and strict!
<samueldr> (and the whold DOM)
<samueldr> whole*
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<MichaelRaskin> Nope, only half of DOM
<samueldr> hm?
<MichaelRaskin> The other half should just cease to exist
* joepie91 hands samueldr a plate of XHTML
<samueldr> joepie91: please more
<samueldr> joepie91: I want xhtml2 to come back
<joepie91> it lives on in the form of JSX
<samueldr> I know full well :)
<samueldr> (its spirit, I'd say)
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<joepie91> anyhow I am distracted from debugging a broken thing
<joepie91> because some asshole delivery driver felt the need to race through the street
<samueldr> ain't we all?
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<MichaelRaskin> By discussing a broken thing beyond any hope of debugging, no less
<MichaelRaskin> Ah
<samueldr> joepie91: street driver or hardware driver? ;)
<joepie91> which is, uh, more than a little irresponsible here
<joepie91> street
<joepie91> grocery store delivery service
<joepie91> already yelled at their twitter account, but I'm sure those won't return until monday
<joepie91> but really, what is wrong with you when you decide to race through a dark residential street so hard that your tires are skipping when you brake because you tried to steer into a dead-end sideroad
<joepie91> if someone had been standing around the corner, they would now be in the hospital
<joepie91> fucking idiot
* joepie91 anger
<MichaelRaskin> I wonder if the incentives created by the delivery service make them effectively select for such driving…
<__monty__> From what I hear about delivery driver jobs that's not unlikely.
<joepie91> MichaelRaskin: it's not something that commonly happens for grocery delivery services here
<joepie91> and even then, there is a limit to what is acceptable behaviour
<joepie91> I can understand someone not waiting at the door for very long because of bad incentives
<joepie91> but putting people's lives at risk is a whole different ballgame
<MichaelRaskin> (me: remembering that article about a German trying to naturalise in Denmark and getting a rejection on citizenship application because of too many speeding tickets)
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<MichaelRaskin> I guess they might be selecting for such driving but just not always get what they select for because of better general attitudes
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<bqv> ahah, wonderful
<bqv> i wrote my own password autofill script
<bqv> for my browser
<bqv> and it works! (that's the best part)
<bqv> nyxt is so much fun
<Church-> nyxt?
<Church-> Oh god
<Church-> What is this LISPy madness :)
<bqv> it checks bitwarden for the current page url, asks me to select a credential, then inserts the username and password into the forms
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<Church-> Neat
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<ashkitten> UGH steam isn't recognizing my new fightstick
<ashkitten> neither is skullgirls
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