gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<ashkitten> update: opting into steam client beta makes it recognize the stick
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<eyJhb> Why in the hell, does banking apps never allow multiple tabs, without it breaking
<eyJhb> It sucks doing accounting this way
<MichaelRaskin> They built too much of an app, you know…
<MichaelRaskin> So all of the state is in localStorage, and none in the current formal URL
<eyJhb> Pros an cons. The path is hidden in newer TLS versions, isn't it?
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<MichaelRaskin> You mean that the domain can be masked via ESNI?
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<MichaelRaskin> The browser and the server still see the URL
<eyJhb> MITM hidden -> the GET /.... is not visible to any snoppers, right?
<eyJhb> As far as I remember
<MichaelRaskin> GET /… should have been encrypted since a long time, now there is an option to also encrypt the server name indication (initial domain negotiation to show the correct certificate)
<eyJhb> Yeah, hence why China is not happy atm.
<eyJhb> But even the NEW banking site, which uses the PATH for accounts etc. does not work
<eyJhb> I. Hate. Banking. Like the also do not allow rooted phones to use their app
<eyJhb> I might very well kill someone today.
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<MichaelRaskin> To be fair, I guess giving someone a request to consider every imaginable CSRF-similar problem and defend against it would lead to something with a similarly bad UX for power users…
<eyJhb> Ohhh MichaelRaskin , they new site is bad UX with less functionality
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<eyJhb> I had to use the old banking website, to approve a payment.
<MichaelRaskin> Oh wow
<MichaelRaskin> _That_ much less functionality
<eyJhb> And they have defaulted to using it
<eyJhb> It is just a pretty website, which does not work
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<viric> I've seen jitsi are implementing "end-to-end encryption" with a PSK among participants
<viric> I didn't expect it.
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<MichaelRaskin> It does sound like a solution with easy-to-understand access logic
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<viric> MichaelRaskin: I had in mind something moer like ECDHE and some authentication procedure.
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<jtojnar> looks like we already dropped immutable from the website
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<jtojnar> oh, I misremembered, we got rid of the "Purely Functional" tag
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<Church-> Hmm, crud. I don't remember how to set up a unifi controller anymore. Heh
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<name54> Uh, sorry Church... I'm terrible at taking notes too ;(
<Church-> name54: Heh I think I may just need to factory reset my AP first
<name54> starting at the beginning... +1, lol
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<drakonis> that blog post is pretty hot
<drakonis> from the author of ostree
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<Church-> name54: Annoyingly now my controller doesn't see my AP at all... >_>
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<Church-> And finally set up. Heh
<Church-> Was bound to an old controller with different login credentials.
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