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<drakonis>
it doesnt just trigger when opening local files
<drakonis>
it does this when doing normal tasks as well
<drakonis>
all of a sudden it decides to keel over and die
<drakonis>
i'm fairly sure it is has to do with it attempting to update and fail
<drakonis>
so it only starts working after the binary is up to date
<infinisil>
I am disappointed that https://ko-fi.com/ doesn't *actually* send you coffees
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<bqv>
Github actions are so unergonomic
<bqv>
pie_: this is why I switched to nyxt
<bqv>
Waaaay more control and waaaaay simpler
<bqv>
Ill just use multiple pushurls rather than mirroring…
<drakonis>
y'alls should play slay the spire downfall
<drakonis>
beat the living daylights out of the player characters as bosses
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<V>
bqv: ...was nyxt previously known as next?
<bqv>
Yes
<V>
oh, cool
<V>
better name imo
<bqv>
They realised it didn't sound close enough to nix
<V>
loll
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<abathur>
probably just realized it was ungoogleable
<abathur>
which is, amusingly, a problem Nix has it's own version of
<abathur>
there should be some sort of strict international governmental cabal that forces software projects to rename every 3 months if they can't google just the name of their own project and find a related result in the first N pages
<abathur>
the shadowy conspiracy we need
<bqv>
more ways to enrich google's hegemony
<bqv>
nah i'm good
<abathur>
oh, fine; I'm being reductive--use dogpile or metacrawler or w/e
<bqv>
heh
<abathur>
it'll still filter out the crop of absolutely enragingly unsearchable projects
<drakonis>
for a moment there, i felt like running gentoo
<drakonis>
icky.
<bqv>
icky?!
<bqv>
gentoo's the only one out of non-nixes that's decent
<bqv>
huh, i think i'm the first person to run a non-official vervis instance
<abathur>
Nyxt is the Greek goddess of the night, making it consistent with the parent organization name, Atlas?
<abathur>
Nyxt is a relatively unique spelling which will result in few false positives?
<bqv>
^ he's not wrong
<abathur>
Nyxt is an admission that we didn't realize anyone would want information about our project, or that we know nothing about how to find information, or that we let someone who knows neither of these things name it
<abathur>
ashkitten: a browser; apparently one no-one heard of until they renamed it
<ashkitten>
okay
<ashkitten>
everyone keeps talking about nyxt in here and i couldn't figure out what it was or where to find it
<abathur>
in their defense, I have been curious about it since I saw it on whereverwherever earlier this week (presumably HN)
<samueldr>
I think everyone's mostly bqv :)
<abathur>
hehe
<bqv>
lol, yes
<bqv>
i really am the purveyor of niche software :|
<abathur>
just gotta get you dealt in as the *namer* of niche software
<abathur>
niche software needs a niche name
<abathur>
if fewer than 1 in 5000 people will care, you need to be really freaking sure you're in the top 10 search results
<abathur>
not in the like, have-to-know-what-language-it-was-written-in-to-find-it bin
<V>
<abathur> ashkitten: a browser; apparently one no-one heard of until they renamed it ← hey, I've known about it for a couple of years
<abathur>
hehe
<abathur>
<3 V
<{^_^}>
V's karma got increased to 0x1
<abathur>
perfect
<V>
which would be... about as long as it has existed, apparently
<V>
nyxt is good
<bqv>
0 x 1, that's 0!
<V>
:p
<ashkitten>
bqv: sell me on nyxt?
<bqv>
do you like emacs?
<bqv>
if yes: it's emacs but for web browsing.
<ashkitten>
i like vim
<abathur>
ruhroh
<V>
ashkitten: it's a browser except you can script it in a lisp
<bqv>
if no: it's a fully hackable browser based on lisp
<V>
really cool
<ashkitten>
can i have vim keybinds
<bqv>
think luakit but on industrial steroids
<V>
sure
<bqv>
you can, yes
<ashkitten>
in text fields?
<V>
you can have vim keybinds in emacs
<V>
you can do literally anything in emacs
<bqv>
theoretically you can have literally anything
<bqv>
that's the entire point.
<V>
emacs is just that hackable
<ashkitten>
are there preset things i can use for that?
<ashkitten>
or do i have to write my own everything
<bqv>
someone has a PR somewhere for embedding vim in text fields i think
<bqv>
can just parrot that
<bqv>
as for global keybinds, there's a vi-mode
<abathur>
"do I have to write my own everything?" spoke to me
<{^_^}>
atlas-engineer/nyxt#461 (by alexherbo2, 46 weeks ago, open): Embed Emacs in Next
<bqv>
and yes, i really wish something new happened, that's why i'm keen to get servo working in nyxt
<bqv>
then it'd be perfect
<ashkitten>
ooh firenvim is already a firefox extension
<ashkitten>
that's sleek
<bqv>
maybe i'll try emacs_chrome
<bqv>
but yeah, it says it works in vivaldi etc, so it clearly is fine for webkit and isn't all too tied to a particular browser
<bqv>
just load it using parenscript and you're done
<ashkitten>
firenvim isn't in nixpkgs :(
<ashkitten>
ooh i wonder if firenvim would also use my nvim config and plugins in firefox :o
<ashkitten>
that's the main appeal of using neovim clients instead of vim emulation in stuff
<bqv>
yeah i think that's the point
<bqv>
which is why i'd rather have emacs in there :p
<ashkitten>
heh
<ashkitten>
does emacs have a client protocol like neovim?
<drakonis>
i cant find the weird proprietary browser
<bqv>
it's had one for more than a decade before neovim even existed
<ashkitten>
neat!
<bqv>
drakonis: did you mean: internet explorer?
<ashkitten>
i don't know shit about emacs other than it's a window manager and can run as pid 1
<bqv>
if you like nyxt, you could probably learn to be obsessed with emacs too
<drakonis>
no its not IE
<drakonis>
i saw a post about it last year
<bqv>
it took me a year or so but now i'm attached by the hip
<V>
you can run anything as pid 1
<V>
whether that's useful to you or not is a different matter
<V>
emacs just happens to be extensible enough to be useful as that
<drakonis>
some weirdos decided it was fine to make a proprietary browser in 2020
<V>
yeah idk why they'd do that
<ashkitten>
i mean yes you can run anything as pid 1
<ashkitten>
but nvim wouldn't be a particularly useful pid 1 :p
<ashkitten>
(i don't consider that a fault, for a text editor)
<bqv>
at least it has a terminal...
<bqv>
that's ..something
<ashkitten>
when i wanted to try out emacs it took me 5 minutes to figure out how to get it to run *inside* the terminal, and another 10 minutes to figure out how to quit
<drakonis>
ah
<drakonis>
flow browser
<ashkitten>
why doesn't emacs tell you how to exit when you press ctrl+c like vim does??
<bqv>
back in olden days, it was a thing that nobody knew how to quit vim
<bqv>
that's *why* they added that message
<drakonis>
you have to pay for it too
<ashkitten>
well yes
<bqv>
emacs, on the other hand, the assumption is you at least have the menu around so it's hardly difficult to go file -> quit
<ashkitten>
and i can't figure out how to quit emacs
<ashkitten>
yeah sure but what if i don't have a graphical emacs session
<drakonis>
the fastest browser lol
<bqv>
i reckon most first-time emacs users don't go terminal, so they at least get a chance to spot the keybind in the menu once
<bqv>
i don't remember how i learnt, too long ago now
<ashkitten>
sure but it's like, a basic usability thing
<bqv>
direct answer: ctrl-c doesn't apply to emacs, it's bound to many, many other things
<bqv>
e.g. i can press `C-c p c` to build and deploy my nixos configuration
<ashkitten>
and? it's trivial to detect if a user is spamming buttons trying to exit
<ashkitten>
not saying this means emacs is bad in general
<ashkitten>
but it's a big ux concern
<bqv>
`C-c C-c C-c` would probably be the first unbound thing, and i mean sure you could bind that to a message, but i seriously doubt that would help
<bqv>
and tbh, if you're coming to emacs with "ux concerns" you're barking up the entirely wrong tree
<ashkitten>
i mean, i'd consider nvim's FTUE pretty decent for a complex text editor
<samueldr>
that's some good gatekeeping talk if I ever heard some
<bqv>
it's not gatekeeping, it's a straight-up design decision
<samueldr>
to have a bad UX?
<bqv>
there's a reason emacs's ui hasn't been revamped for longer than i've been alive
<bqv>
it's designed to be a terminal emulator
<bqv>
with ..lisp, hacked in, very tightly
<ashkitten>
when i first launch emacs it tells me everything except how to exit
<ashkitten>
the first thing you see when you launch vim is how to exit
<ashkitten>
nano always has the exit keybind displayed on screen
<bqv>
again, it is now, it didn't used to be, it only became so because it became a viral meme that nobody knew how to quit vim
<bqv>
you're about the first person i've seen struggle to exit emacs
<samueldr>
and that is, you see, an improvement
<samueldr>
not "barking at the wrong tree"
<samueldr>
maybe not everyone screams at the top of their lung they failed to exit emacs
<samueldr>
since they've seen the tired old meme of "hurr dhurr vim is hard"
<samueldr>
but eh
<samueldr>
I couldn't exit emacs either
<samueldr>
I don't know how to still
<samueldr>
but I don't care since I just don't use it
<bqv>
so what do you want, a message on the initial screen? if it really bothers you, make a PR
<bqv>
it's been many decades, nobody's bothered, because nobody cares enough to
<samueldr>
nah, since that'd be barking at the wrong tree
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<bqv>
you're extraordinarily passive aggressive you know...
<ashkitten>
it might say something about emacs that vim learned from its mistake and emacs did not
<bqv>
my point is that you're framing it as a mistake, when i don't see it as one, and i'm speaking as someone who's used both proficiently for quite a long time
<ashkitten>
intentional or not, it's bad ux
<ashkitten>
and yeah ux does still matter for projects that are decades old
<ashkitten>
"that's the way it's always been" is not an excuse for being bad
<bqv>
you're complaining about something that only becomes an issue when you spend actual intentional time trying to look up how to open emacs in a terminal rather than gui, because you can't be bothered to then look up it's basic keybindings
<samueldr>
I'm easily aggravated by "UX can't be fixed" when it feels (to me) it's a "get good" sentiment
<bqv>
that's just absurd
<ashkitten>
bqv: or if you open emacs in a virtual console? or over ssh?
<bqv>
and you anticipate most people's first experience of emacs would be that?
<ashkitten>
yes.
<ashkitten>
many people
<ashkitten>
it doesn't matter if "most"
<samueldr>
or using the "wrong" package
<samueldr>
(a different UX issue)
<ashkitten>
i'm sure some distros have a separate package for the gui version of emacs
<ashkitten>
like most have a separate gvim
<bqv>
christ, i give up
<ashkitten>
i mean, you don't have to defend it on this one issue
<ashkitten>
this is not a hill that's necessary to die on
<ashkitten>
emacs can still be good and useful and have bad FTUE
<ashkitten>
and nobody is implying it's a bad editor
<bqv>
dude, there are a lot of fucking problems with emacs, this is not one of them. in my mind this is like saying the biggest issue with russia is that it snows
<ashkitten>
i never said it's the biggest issue either
<bqv>
but i've had enough of a shitty day, i didn't need to be dragged into another argument
<ashkitten>
i said it is an issue
<ashkitten>
i hope the rest of your day is better, truly
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<ashkitten>
,escape ''
<{^_^}>
Escape this in " strings with: ''
<{^_^}>
Escape this in '' strings with: '''
<ashkitten>
what do people use these days for nvim completion? is it still deoplete?
<cole-h>
colemickens: What was that software you used to display GitHub markdown locally? I think it was Python-based.
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<ashkitten>
current status: overriding firefox-bin with a postFixup that patches which keybinds are reserved so i can ^W in firenvim
<JJJollyjim>
lol
<JJJollyjim>
does firenvim fix the "can't inject js into pages with CSPs" issue
<JJJollyjim>
that has made whatever extension i used to use totally pointless
<JJJollyjim>
since keyboard shortcuts would only work on a few pages
<JJJollyjim>
and not if the browser chrome was focused
<JJJollyjim>
e10s was a mistake :P
<ashkitten>
JJJollyjim: firenvim seems to work fine on discord, element, github, protonmail (in the plaintext editor)
<JJJollyjim>
nice
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<talyz>
ashkitten: the terminal version of emacs tells me how to exit on the splash screen
<talyz>
ashkitten: maybe this is new in 27.1, though. I normally have the welcome screen disabled, so I don't know how or if it's been updated
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<eyJhb>
content.sixgun.org <- anyone who can visit that site?
<eyJhb>
Trying to listen to Linux Outlaws
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<eyJhb>
That little "fur" instead of "for" in a loop, and you feel a little bit German (even if net spelled correctly)
<ar>
#define fur for
<sphalerite>
eyJhb: German… or Furry?
<JJJollyjim>
lol
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<infinisil>
Hah
<makefu>
Umlauts are important for Germans, almost as important as accents are for the French
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<eyJhb>
sphalerite: :(
<eyJhb>
makefu: Can't even write them on my keyboard, afaik
<joepie91>
sphalerite: I imagine that was even more of a problem when CCP Games partnered with some Chinese company to build a mobile version of EVE
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: 👋
<joepie91>
... well, I say problem, but who knows
<joepie91>
might have helped :P
<sphalerite>
or _maybe_ EVE Online was actually developed by the Chinese government.
<joepie91>
dunno
<joepie91>
I have a hard time believing that the Chinese government would develop what is functionally Anarcho-Capitalism: The Game
<etu>
sphalerite: Nah, Iceland
<makefu>
☭ via ctrl-shift 262D
<joepie91>
(also known as Neo-Libertarianism: The Game, since that is basically the same thing)
<Church->
So #nixos-chat Eve corp when?
<pie_>
me, trying to buy stuff noone seems to have :
<pie_>
dont yall want my money
<pie_>
sadly hardware (boxes) isnt as easy to diy as software
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<cole-h>
I was wondering why my computer was so slow... It's cuz my pool is scrubbing lol
<gchristensen>
I need to hire (short term contract for now) someone to write docs for a product built around Nix. Anyone interested?
<joepie91>
gchristensen: depends, is it open-source?
<gchristensen>
no (I was going to contact you first, then remembered)
<joepie91>
heh :)
<joepie91>
appreciate it :P
<joepie91>
but yeah, that won't be one for me then
<pie_>
"if the five eyes can't implement bad crypto and get away with it, they'll just make sure every crypto tool sucks to use and makes it easy to make accidents"
<gchristensen>
quoth gpg(1)
<pie_>
yeah i imagine that could not be a poke at anythign else
<pie_>
on the other hand
<pie_>
ssl
<pie_>
gchristensen: is part-time possible?
<gchristensen>
quite possibly, pie_
<pie_>
im not very confident but it might be worth a shot to apply
<joepie91>
it's actually kind of ridiculous that this is one of the easier threat models to defend against (all you need is One Stubborn Person who makes a better interface) and we're still not collectively managing to do that
<pie_>
though i look forward to pulling a joepie91at some point :P
<pie_>
joepie91: ikr. but its not the biggest venn diagram subset
<pie_>
noone has written a better nix cli :p
<joepie91>
no, but it's also not zero
<pie_>
*nod*
<joepie91>
like, "people who know crypto" and "people who could build a better UI" is definitely a non-zero-sized set
<joepie91>
overlap-wise
<pie_>
maybe the suffuciently stubborn people are consumed welsewhere :I
<joepie91>
wellllllll
<joepie91>
IME the main enemy here is apathy
<pie_>
idk tbh, where _are_ these people now that yu mention it :P
<pie_>
maybe writing that one rust thing, etc
<pie_>
also maybe need one guy to skunkworks it
<joepie91>
the people in that set varyingly 1) do not believe that the problem is actually a problem, 2) do not believe that it is possible to solve it, 3) do not believe that it is worth trying to solve, 4) have become disillusioned with Other People for one reason or another and are therefore not motivated
<joepie91>
you would not *believe* how often I have to argue with people about even the premise that "a thing that is easy to misuse is bad", including with people who really should know better
<pie_>
yeah
<joepie91>
and I've largely given up on the convincing part and have just started fixing shit myself, but I have a finite amount of time
<joepie91>
it's just... the overall apathy and insistence on habits and tribes in tech is horrendously bad
<joepie91>
just today I had to spend 15-30 minutes arguing with someone over using ?? in JS instead of ||, the latter of which is clearly not semantically correct (and has weird behaviour) and the former of which is correct and just as easy to do really
<joepie91>
but instead of going "huh, yeah, that's better actually", they chose to spend half an hour defending the writing of incorrect code for no actual benefit
<joepie91>
and this x100 is what I run into when I try to convince people of the less obvious things like API ergonomics
<joepie91>
like, holy shit, stop being so difficult for the sake of being difficult
* joepie91
frustrate
<joepie91>
fix the thing, move on
<joepie91>
</rant>
* pie_
hugs joepie91 :P
<pie_>
yeah idk man
<pie_>
like, i could argue technicalities but idk why the fundamental issue is so hard to see
<joepie91>
oh I'm totally fine with actual meaningful discussion, I spent 10 minutes discussing the exact naming of a method in my DB project and how a word that can be either a verb or a noun could be confusing there, and that was a useful discussion
<pie_>
just say "i dont want to spend effort on this" if thats what you want
<pie_>
*if thats what they want
<joepie91>
at least acknowledge the problem so that we can have a discussion about how to best solve it with the best tradeoffs, instead of you demanding that I defend my mere existence and the purpose of the universe first
<joepie91>
right :P
<pie_>
how often do we have this circlejerk haha
<joepie91>
don't think we've had this one before
<joepie91>
and it's more ranting than circlejerk :P
<pie_>
idk it would be very fitting
<pie_>
i think you should write a faq
<joepie91>
I'm slowly churning out articles about common frustrations
<pie_>
if the other party is charitable enough to work with they will be better off reading a coherent explanation anyway
<joepie91>
I need to get my blog into proper functioning order so I can publish it better
<pie_>
otherwise its probably not worth arguing with them _every_ time
<pie_>
one step at a time. your gist dumps are a start
<joepie91>
all those will move to my blog eventually
<pie_>
btw: "epistemic status" and "estimated time to read" labels might be nice
<joepie91>
I'm just waiting for Shayu to gain the necessary features for RSS support, then I can convert it over to that and sufficiently customize it for what I need
<pie_>
gchristensen: sorry for the triple-post, in any case i sent a pm
<joepie91>
anyway basically everyone does shit like `options.timeout || 3000` to get either one or the other and that is wrong
<joepie91>
?? fixes that
<eyJhb>
Ohhh, yeah I remember that actually
<eyJhb>
I am used to ? in PHP before they got ??
<joepie91>
unlike ||, which is actually boolean OR and so triggers on any falsey value, ?? will only trigger on nullish values (null/undefined)
<eyJhb>
Also, gchristensen is back :o
<joepie91>
and the latter is almost always what people actually want outside of actual boolean logic
<eyJhb>
joepie91: seems idiotic to argue over that
<joepie91>
it is!
<eyJhb>
-> That he/she/it/whatever did not just admit it
<joepie91>
but it happens reproducibly
<joepie91>
"nah, || is fine here, it's not a problem"
<joepie91>
every single fucking time
<joepie91>
and even *after* explaining that it's irrelevant whether it works now because at some future, point the assumption that "this will never be an empty string" is going to be invalidated, that just... gets ignored and they return to "nah it's fine here, it won't be"
<joepie91>
at some future point*
<joepie91>
it just boggles my mind how people don't realize that every assumption like that that they make, adds another item on the tech debt mountain
<joepie91>
anyway I said </rant> :P
<eyJhb>
I am a master of the tech debt mountain!
<eyJhb>
I just wrote some completely new code today, that I need to change :D
* joepie91
is working on his database thing again
<eyJhb>
But at least that is more because, I took the easier route, but I just need to put in another module I have
<eyJhb>
Forum?
<joepie91>
if you mean the forum gist, yep, that was example/test code for the database project :P
<eyJhb>
What is the goal of the database project?
<joepie91>
eyJhb: making databases fun again :)
<eyJhb>
And you are not allowed to say, to work with databases.
<eyJhb>
Damn it.
<joepie91>
eyJhb: basically it's a sort of query builder / ORM that's designed like it's its own database
<joepie91>
and that has a much more ergonomic API than ye olde SQL
<joepie91>
it's built on PostgreSQL, but unlike other ORMs/QBs it's not a leaky abstraction where you basically need to learn both SQL and the abstraction
<joepie91>
nor is it meant to "let you write SQL" -- while it's designed to (hopefully) allow you to fulfill arbitrary usecases (including eg. complex reporting), that doesn't mean you can generate arbitrary SQL queries with it
<joepie91>
so in the end it should basically look and feel like it's a whole new database system
<joepie91>
that uses PostgreSQL as its internal engine but does not otherwise leave you to deal with it
<joepie91>
and where you can learn the entire system, including everything needed for arbitrary queries, from just reading the documentation of the database thing (I haven't settled on what to call it yet)
<joepie91>
also means that it has its own concepts which don't 1:1 map to SQL, for example there's no direct equivalent for JOINs
<joepie91>
but there are various table-reference-y APIs that may internally end up using JOINs
<joepie91>
TL;DR I am very very sick of the shitty design of SQL and how noone seems interested in fixing or even acknowledging the ergonomics issues with it
<joepie91>
see also the rant above :P
<eyJhb>
It works PERFECTLY!
<eyJhb>
:p
<joepie91>
eyJhb: honestly I'm waiting for the first onlooker to take this as an invitation to explain to me at length how Actually, SQL Is Fine because algebraic blah blah proven tech blah blah etc.
<joepie91>
as there always seems to be at least one in every channel
<eyJhb>
joepie91: I have a finite of time ;)
<eyJhb>
\s I don't know enough about it :P
<joepie91>
(probably needless to say, but those discussions have never led to anything fruitful)
<eyJhb>
I have soo much bloat in my code, that needs to be fixed atm. :( `auth.AuthService -> auth.Service`
<joepie91>
eyJhb: most people don't, honestly. there seems to be a hell of a lot of SQL proponents who take "I have no issues with it personally" to mean that they are qualified to comment on its language design
<joepie91>
even if they have 0 language design insight
<joepie91>
ironically, this is less of a problem in the PostgreSQL channel than most other places...
<pie_>
and then theres the people who write whole books about how Actually SQL As Implemented Doesnt Conform To Relational Algebra
<joepie91>
heh, I have not seen those
<joepie91>
but I also think that focusing on 'relational algebra' is entirely the wrong track to be on, when talking about the end-user interface
<joepie91>
makes total sense in the internals design and figuring out the mental model; but the design of the input language should be focused around the usecases that people actually have, not some abstract notion of mathematical elegance
<pie_>
idk about that. the "abstract notion of mathematical elegance" is what gets you an internally consistent expressive system, but im probably missing your point
<joepie91>
yes, that is why I'm saying it's fine for internals
<pie_>
mm, well ok
<joepie91>
the problem is that your "internally consistent expressive system" is functionally useless if even the simplest tasks take a lot of hassle to express in it, and the design of the language itself is as inconsistent as can be
<joepie91>
like, SQL is one of the very very few languages still in widespread use that does not actually have a basic syntactic structure!
<joepie91>
the valid syntax is 100% contextually determined
<pie_>
i think we're talking past eachother
<pie_>
im advocating against sql, so to speak
<joepie91>
there's nothing like braces (most languages) or indentation (python) to indicate or delimit specific things
<pie_>
(it would be better if it actually conformed to relational stuff - or something)
<joepie91>
which means you have 0 syntactic consistency to go off when writing or understanding SQL
<joepie91>
pie_: right, I'm just saying why modelling it after relational algebra doesn't magically get you an ergonomic system
<pie_>
sure
<joepie91>
your users are not doing relational algebra, they are expressing business requirements
<pie_>
its a good thing for the person designing the database to be able to thugh
<joepie91>
yet "relational algebra" is one of the most common arguments I hear as to why SQL would be well-designed...
<pie_>
its the common argument by inheritance
<pie_>
and when i tried to search for lecture videos on relational algebra i didnt actually find anything decent afaict
<samueldr>
pie_: no need to
<pie_>
not that im an expert
<pie_>
i was looking because im not
<samueldr>
relational algebra is by itself the goal to achieve
<samueldr>
:)
<samueldr>
haven't you heard that it's fine since anyways SQL is built using that?
<pie_>
huh? xd
<samueldr>
dunno really, I agree that it seems the foundations are always touted as good and obvious, but it seems nowhere they are explained
<pie_>
something something original paper from that one guy, and this pascal dudes rants and blog
<eyJhb>
samueldr: That is the reason why I am afraid of my next semester !
<pie_>
or the other guy with relation to this pascal guy, cant remember which one has the blog
<pie_>
_seems_ clueful at least
<eyJhb>
I got a 12 (-3 to 12) for my bachelor project, but would have gotton a 02 because of missing explanation if it were in the current semester.
<jtojnar>
> "SQL/XML 2006 calls for full integration of XQuery. [...] It would, however, seem to make more sense to reuse PostgreSQL's existing query planning and execution facilities and consider XQuery a parallel alternative to SQL"
<{^_^}>
"SQL/XML 2006 calls for full integration of XQuery. [...] It would, however, seem to make more sense to reuse PostgreSQL's existing query planning and execution facilities and consider XQuery a paral...
<cole-h>
lol
<samueldr>
is the bot mocking jtojnar :)
<samueldr>
(yes I know it's just evaluating a string)
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<ashkitten>
ohhhh
<ashkitten>
i figured out what was wrong with firefox
<ashkitten>
okay cool
<ashkitten>
don't have to rebuild it then
<ashkitten>
i can just patch it in the postFixup phase :p
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<abathur>
It MigHT gEt OLD, bUT Once IN a BLUE moON ThE BOT ShOUlD QuOte soMeONE In SpOnGeBOb CAsE
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<infinisil>
> spongebobify
<{^_^}>
<LAMBDA>
<infinisil>
> spongebobify "This is totally normal sentence
<{^_^}>
error: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting '"', at (string):321:15
<infinisil>
> spongebobify "This is totally normal sentence"
<{^_^}>
"THiS IS tOtALlY noRMaL SENtENCe"
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<samueldr>
such a joke shouldn't be used on any other channel than a "fun" channel, or else it's a recipe for disaster...
<samueldr>
... and even then... probably not a good ide
<samueldr>
a
<abathur>
<3 infinisil
<{^_^}>
infinisil's karma got increased to 349
<abathur>
I'll just _imagine_ it barging into a vim/emacs fight by spongebobifying someone
<abathur>
maybe give it some watchwords that increase the chance it'll do it
<neeasade>
HEY emacs already has studlify. time travel exists
<colemickens>
When you subscribe to mobile-nixos and wake up and realize you "watch"ed nixpkgs on GitHub. Time to write email rules I guess.
<samueldr>
Haha
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<ashkitten>
i heard neovim has lsp support built in now
<ashkitten>
is that true?
<drakonis>
do check their patch notes for that
<Church->
colemickens: lol
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<samueldr>
I have no idea, never used an LSP still
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<colemickens>
ashkitten: yeah I think there are some of us in nixos land that run the 0.5 RC for that reason. There are some treesitter/lsp plugins in nix's plugin list that are meant for 0.5
<ashkitten>
so it does?
<colemickens>
I think a neovim nightly overlay was mentioned recently in discourse