gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<samueldr> some north american people see 1h30 as a normal daily commute :/
<adisbladis> ixxie: I loved israel
<adisbladis> Well, obviously not the politics
<adisbladis> But the country and the culture blew me away
<adisbladis> If it was just up to me tel aviv would be pretty high up on my list of places to live
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<adisbladis> Hiking in the Negev was the absolute high point of my entire year
<ixxie> yeah there is a lot of awesomeness in Israel for sure
<adisbladis> samueldr: One way? :O
<ixxie> but I think for me the culture is too much
<samueldr> yes
<ixxie> adisbladis: Israelis are so volatile about everything
<ixxie> adisbladis: not just politics
<adisbladis> ixxie: I'm sure if you live there you see the dark sides in a different way
<adisbladis> Just like with anywhere else
<ixxie> yep
<ixxie> its crazy how radically culture shifts
<ixxie> I'm an extreme introvert in Israel and an extreme extrovert in Finland
<adisbladis> I know!
<adisbladis> ixxie: You can never truly go "back home"
<ixxie> adisbladis: in the end, I decided I want nature, snow, a decent tech scene and a culture that is open
<aleph-> samueldr: 2.5hrs was my commute last year for a month
<aleph-> Then remote full time thankfully
<ixxie> adisbladis: entremundos, as an Austrian emigre to Spain once told me
<ixxie> adisbladis: between worlds
<adisbladis> eixxie: You have no idea how cathartic this is to me right now.
<adisbladis> This so much
<ixxie> adisbladis: its funny, I regularly have drinks with a half-Finn half-Palastinian, and a Palastinian/Jordanian/Canadian/DigitalNomad, and we all share this same rootlessness
<ixxie> adisbladis: but I think what will happen this century is people will start creating settlements with ideological cohesion
<ixxie> adisbladis: advertising them online and attracting people from all over
<ixxie> adisbladis: creating a new tribe and home like that
<adisbladis> I'm not so sure about that
<adisbladis> It's really hard to uproot yourself from family
<adisbladis> I mean, sure, to some extent
<adisbladis> ixxie: I think anyone having immersed themselves in a different culture will share this rootlessness to some degree
<adisbladis> You can never "go back" and see "your own" culture in the same light ever again
<ixxie> adisbladis: indeed
<abathur> chris ryan's podcast has this sort of thing as a recurring theme
<ixxie> adisbladis: immediate family can move with you, i.e. a whole family will move together; extended family can be visited a few times a year.
<samueldr> TIL, only starting with Android 11 (upcoming version) are devices forced to have 1GB of ram or more to ship google's services
<samueldr> what surprises me is that this means that manufacturers can make devices with only 512MB of ram right now and ship them with google's services
<ixxie> samueldr: time for the Nix Store and NixDroid to break the monopoly
<lovesegfault> Ugh, talyz, I rebased your branch to pick up the fix to #12 but now I show in the branch as committer. You're still the author, but if you want feel free to rebase again so you're author & committer
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/12 (by garbas, 8 years ago, closed): afew and alot updates
<lovesegfault> my bad
<ashkitten> wow, i just went looking at the commit logs of nix and nixos
<ashkitten> the first nix commit was march 12 2003, first nixos commit was february 14, 2004
<adisbladis> ashkitten: Good ideas take time
<ashkitten> wild how long this project has been going
<ashkitten> i wonder at what date nix was first conceptualized
<samueldr> now, think about how eelco probably thought of it a bit before getting started
<samueldr> ugh, I should have read and understood what the last thing you said was
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<gchristensen> adisbladis: especially when you have to repackage AllTheSoftware first
<abathur> in march of 2003, I was still in high school and wouldn't know what a git was for several more years
<ashkitten> high school? i was a toddler
<abathur> :]
<lovesegfault> Alright, I have a puzzle for y'all
<{^_^}> #63551 (by Steell, 1 year ago, merged): roon-server: init at 100600401
<lovesegfault> this is now out-of-date
<drakonis> how puzzling.
<abathur> I don't worry about age much, but it does make me sad that there are kids in college born after the US invaded afghanistan
<lovesegfault> but upstream makes it impossible to know the version name of the current binary release
<abathur> well, it doesn't make me sad that they're in college
<lovesegfault> proprietary sw :(
<abathur> heh
<gchristensen> abathur: there are kids who are aware that The Office is that old show their parents sometimes watch.
<abathur> yeah, that'd be the age stuff I don't worry about too much :)
<abathur> I worry more about creeping normality
<gchristensen> yeah, I mean, it isfine -- just striking!
<abathur> nod
<gchristensen> ahh yeah that is a good perspective
<abathur> I'm odd, chronologically, I guess
<gchristensen> I remember being worried about the draft w.r.t. Afghanistan
<abathur> nod, ditto
<gchristensen> and I remember for several years, every birthday after 24 mostly celebrating the "woohoo, less likely to be drafted"
<abathur> there is one age thing that makes me very happy, though
<abathur> and that's imagining everyone of net/memeculture age and down when we start going senile
<abathur> and all of the really weird flotsam we'll be regurgitating
<gchristensen> oh gosh
<gchristensen> it will be like a sewer of nonsense
<gchristensen> using Windows over RDP is showing me that actually Outlook is pretty good, and I still like OneNote a lot, and I hate the things it is making me feel
<abathur> an extra meta for a page listing where you'd find versions/downloads for a package, and a test that will make you fill it in if it can't find the current source link within N links from the homepage meta
<gchristensen> !
<abathur> RDP is its own nice thing
<abathur> I also like to wonder if they'll have cultural repositories where the curious can look up some of the weird stuff and actually find it, or if they'll just have to shrug and consign themselves to not knowing what a meatspin hamsterdance xkcd was
<gchristensen> hopefully I'll still have my wits sufficient to mention leekspin
<abathur> douglas rushkoff has a nice book, exit strategy, where the premise is that the text from our time surfaces in a couple centuries
<abathur> and it's got annotations, I think they were community driven; margin/foot notes
<abathur> explaining what all sorts of things were
<abathur> and some of them are kinda right, playing it straight
<abathur> and some are plausibly epic misinterpretations
<abathur> https://d1b14unh5d6w7g.cloudfront.net/1887128905.01.S04I.LXXXXXXX.jpg?Expires=1595470608&Signature=Et8rsZukg4/dQcBpDlAL+5M5336l8GVgmwm/0mZudvQIRcQo/MG8KA0cl0nwuZNhpBT5NbKtKjs966u9MO2Jj8AqsIROpkqSEKfMWlaUdkmmn1U+68svvWY8vntasFZfaL1cohmFrQ5jVbwAtfSg52/37okAzdhfwITReEhiX2c=&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIUO27P366FGALUMQ
<gchristensen> huh
<abathur> mind you, it was published in 2002
<gchristensen> speaking of which, I watched Enemy of the State (1998) on Monday and almost all of it became, roughly, real in 2001
<abathur> saw a tweet about that heh
<abathur> https://d1b14unh5d6w7g.cloudfront.net/1887128905.01.S021.LXXXXXXX.jpg?Expires=1595470855&Signature=dUE4fKjbzaUei4udf+zzKmJxyah/9j053DT3UitiwN4tep/3nArlwJQRUcRERInh1xQcbXwPKPgTxFjXdhyZvcjbpKyMljjO3++gL4eqwYPRM4BeyoG5wSlNvdT9lsu3XS5xT8+MiDGRfe4WeISCkvkEddInsCjwqUW9stdvcTo=&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIUO27P366FGALUMQ
<gchristensen> okay bed time
<abathur> night
<gchristensen> g'night :)
<cole-h> o/
<lovesegfault> Who wants to press the merge button for me?
<lovesegfault> :^)
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<abathur> lovesegfault: I did find something about those versions here https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:w-55YZSEKEcJ:https://community.roonlabs.com/t/release-download-url-is-not-the-latest-version/109952+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
<lovesegfault> abathur: I found this https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/92945
<{^_^}> #92945 (by eljojo, 1 week ago, open): Bump Roon-Server to latest version and fix bug
<abathur> ah, nice
<lovesegfault> abathur++
<{^_^}> abathur's karma got increased!
<abathur> probably worth having a comment in there about it being a 3-part number where 100700571 == 1.7, build 571
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<bqv> I want to switch to ubuntu
<bqv> (on mobile, before you spit out your coffee)
<drakonis> hmm
<bqv> I know it works on my device, just not sure if I could daily drive it
<bqv> I tested it on a backup
<bqv> Just, how cool would it be, to just have linux on your phone, instead of all the android nonsense
<bqv> and retain the ability to install android apps
<bqv> Imma go put it back on my backup phone and test it more
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<lovesegfault> What's the fastest way to transfer files between two boxes locally
<cole-h> rsync is what I'd use
<lovesegfault> ssh is slow :*
<lovesegfault> * :(
<abathur> I guess it depends on whether they'll max out at SATA anyways? :)
<cole-h> lovesegfault: Could try magic-wormhole
<abathur> in theory you can beat that fairly easily with nvme devices and thunderbolt 3, though I haven't ever bothered to look into what fraction of nvme drives can maintain their peak rates and it wouldn't shock me if many can't
<cole-h> oh I missed the "locally"
<cole-h> lol
<samueldr> I guess a hard drive dock would be the best bandwidth, if you don't need to *copy* the files
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<bqv> post pard drives for the best throughput
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<lovesegfault> wtaf
<lovesegfault> I can ping a machine on wifi
<lovesegfault> but not on eth
<lovesegfault> and I can ssh into it on wifi
<lovesegfault> but not on it's eth addr
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* colemickens why on earth is cachix building again, how, I'm using nixos-20.03 for it
<colemickens> oop there it is
<lovesegfault> Alright, over 1gig link I now have the transfer going at ~110MB/s
<lovesegfault> not bad
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<cole-h> Grrrrr
<cole-h> 00:00:16.784 [ERROR] [backend/drm/legacy.c:157] Failed to set gamma LUT on CRTC 55: Invalid argument
<cole-h> Sometimes I hate sway
<cole-h> colemickens: How is gammastep as a redshift replacement?
<colemickens> well it's not packaged
<cole-h> F, doesn't appear to work either. Time to override sway to 1.4 again...
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<cole-h> Ahhhhh, much better. Eyes are no longer being seared out of their sockets.
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<sphalerite> cole-h: colemickens: packaging it is on my todo list fwiw :)
<cole-h> Well, only reason I care(d) was if it would fix my problem
<cole-h> Unfortunately, it didn't.
<cole-h> Some day, I'll get around to filing a proper issue... but I'm using nouveau, so I don't know how much help I'll receive.
<sphalerite> cole-h: nouveau is great
<cole-h> That it is
<sphalerite> cole-h: they'll probably be happy to help with it
<sphalerite> it's just the nvidia proprietary drivers afaiu
<sphalerite> "Proprietary graphics drivers, including nvidia, are not supported. Please use the open source equivalents, such as nouveau, if you would like to use Sway."
<cole-h> I figured it was all Nvidia-adjacent software. But I'll still file an issue eventually... guess I should add it back to my TODOs
<cole-h> zzz guess I'll need to bisect again
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<Valodim> "MuttLisp was inspired by Lisp, and so follows the same basic syntax. All statements are surrounded by parenthesis."
<Valodim> what a gem :D
<eyJhb> vaibhavsagar: `we just doubled the amount required` would be hell
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<bqv> it's 9am and there's a guy trimming a hedge right outside my house
<bqv> i feel like going out and saying "it's my birthday, will you please fuck off so i can relax"
<srk> :(
<srk> happy birthday!
<bqv> it was, until this
<bqv> thanks though
<philipp[m]> Oh man, I think I finally fixed the reason behind the misterious case of unfiltered spam mails on our servers. Race condition on spam filter ports in a very few scenarios. fml.
<philipp[m]> Happy birthday, bqv!
<eyJhb> bqv: congrats on the level up!
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<eyJhb> Did they stop bqv?
<eyJhb> There are `monday motivation` I need a `math motivation` on Spotify
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<talyz> lovesegfault: that's okay, no worries :)
<talyz> lovesegfault: also, I'll probably squash a few commits, which should fix that
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<eyJhb> bqv This is weird
<eyJhb> You DC/JOIN message are async
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<gchristensen> btw anyone have a disposable VM running ZFS that they could crash for me?
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<eyJhb> Sorry talyz :p
<eyJhb> It is a constant struggle. The ta and the z throws me off
<srhb> gchristensen: I do, but I'm probably late to the party. :)
<gchristensen> srhb: sorted :)
<srhb> ok :)
<{^_^}> #93568 (by aaronjanse, 1 day ago, open): Add Redox OS as a target
<adisbladis> Nice
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<talyz> eyJhb: no prob :)
<eyJhb> Perfect :D
<eyJhb> Anyone know, if you can get a list of all the projects that you contributed to, that ended up in the vault?
<JJJollyjim> I think it shows up on your profile page
<JJJollyjim> I've seen screenshots of that on twitter
<eyJhb> Yeah, but just "and many more" :/
<JJJollyjim> Ah damn
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<eyJhb> And they merged again, hiding under the same alias talyz tazjin :p
<eyJhb> JJJollyjim: hoped for just a list or something
<adisbladis> talyzjin
<eyJhb> I can't even find a complete list of projects
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<eyJhb> I love that someone I know, have his dotfiles with two stars in the vault. The hell.
<eyJhb> Perfect tazjylin , now I can't spell it either :p
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<adisbladis> Next level cursed: Create a bot that swaps nick names at an interval
<adisbladis> Like, you swap with each other constantly
<tazlyjin> adisbladis: make a whole channel like that, with content generated by gpt-3
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<infinisil> emoji nicknames :o
<adisbladis> infinisil: Get out
<adisbladis> This isn't discord
<adisbladis> (don't really get out :) )
<infinisil> I was just thinking: We use nicknames to be able to distinguish people. We also like to have different nicknames in different colors to help with that
<infinisil> But emojis are actually shorter and easier to distinguish than colored letters!
<infinisil> Annoying to refer to people though :P
<adisbladis> /nick 🍆🌮
<makefu> adisbladis: the discussion seems to be .... ongoing i guess https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/issues/259
<{^_^}> ircv3/ircv3-specifications#259 (by ttepasse, 4 years ago, open): Allow Unicode in nicknames
<infinisil> Oh snap!
<ajs124> As someone with a non-ascii last name and address, I'll be the first person to vote for adding unicode to anything.
<cransom> i knew someone who took a small amount of pride that every where he started a job, he broke HR or payroll because he had a `'` in his last name.
<infinisil> Lol nice
<cransom> not quite bobby tables, but it caused some interesting bugs.
<cransom> heh, and a colleague of my spouse, her name was 'susan sample'. she would have to check up on applications and test scores if she didn't get them back because someone assumed it was random test data and just dropped it.
<joepie91> lol
<Taneb> I've had enough trouble with having a space in my surname
<talyz> cransom: oh wow
<talyz> tazjin: well, now that we know people confuse us, I guess we can use it to pull off "identical twin"-style pranks, but on irc
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<sphalerite> I wonder if github will fix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues?q=is%3Aissue+mysql+gcc+is%3Aclosed at some point :p
<sphalerite> infinisil: emoji nicknames? Nah, just show only people's profile pictures without their names. :D
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<__monty__> Just heard about someone with an apostrophe in their last name, "just drop it" isn't a good solution for them though "De'Ath."
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<bqv> eyJhb: after like 3 hours, yeah
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<ashkitten> omg, adisbladis, redox support in nix? i'm dreaming still!
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* ashkitten dreams about having nixos on redox-os...
<ashkitten> ofc, that means making nixos platform-agnostic like i've been saying for months but still can't do anything about
<adisbladis> ashkitten: I know, pretty exciting prospect
<ashkitten> vr gaming on nixos-managed redox when, tbh
<etu> infinisil: I've been on a irc network once that allowed unicode nicknames.
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<talyz> adisbladis: nix on redox? :O
<talyz> Oh, that pr is merged now
<etu> talyz: I left a review for you on the emacs overlay :)
<talyz> etu: cool, thanks! :)
<adisbladis> If we're doing IRC reviews ;)
<adisbladis> We can't use Niv as we're avoiding IFD. I'd rather we add a script to keep the parser in sync with your repo
<etu> Hmm, I haven't looked closely at the niv nix code, but I don't see why it would need to be IFD to begin with...
<srhb> etu: It might be conditional upon having a nixpkgs sources attribute in which case it _will_ ifd that source -- but maybe it doesn't if it falls back to path?
<etu> srhb: I see
<srhb> But we can't even import any of the sources that it produces anyway.
<srhb> Since, same issue.
<etu> One could parse the json and pass it to fetchFromGitHub in many cases :p
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<etu> adisbladis: I see, that's sad :(
<srhb> adisbladis: `if builtins.hasAttr "nixpkgs" sources` was what I was talking about
<srhb> But there's no way to parse it in as an arg it seems.
<srhb> (as in, releases.nix style)
<srhb> so meh, no go :)
<etu> srhb: Or as we say in Sweden: "Det blev ingen cd" ;)
<adisbladis> <3
<adisbladis> etu: Have you seen the documentary?
<srhb> :D
<adisbladis> There is seriously a documentary about it
<etu> adisbladis: Hmm, I think not.
<adisbladis> He's tracking down some of the ppl in the picture
<etu> Wat, 54 minutes :D
<adisbladis> etu: It's legit
<adisbladis> Hahah it's so next level stupid
<adisbladis> etu: Now you know what you're doing tonight
<srhb> this was literally just a deadpan notice in a lokaltidning way back, right?
<etu> yes
<srhb> :| 54 minutes
<etu> They went to the music store, but it was closed, so they couldn't buy a cd.
<etu> And that made the news, and then the internet
<srhb> I vaguely remember. :P
<srhb> And now, apparently, a documentary?!
<__monty__> Hmm, niv produces a json file with `src`es, right? And a nix expression can read those and use them? Where does the IFD come in?
<adisbladis> __monty__: The need to be fetched & imported
<__monty__> What needs to be fetched and imported?
<adisbladis> The Nix expressions in the repo(s) you manage
<adisbladis> The Niv model doesn't inherently mean IFD, but in this instance we're importing non-local expressions
<__monty__> What's the scenario at hand?
<talyz> adisbladis: ah, so there's no way to download the source on-the-fly without ifd?
<adisbladis> Nope :/
<talyz> :(
<etu> adisbladis: But the json file contains a hash and everything, it should be possible to have it as a FOD?
<adisbladis> etu: `import (FOD)` is still IFD
<etu> adisbladis: ah right... :/
<talyz> adisbladis: didn't know about that documentary either.. amazing :D
<talyz> adisbladis: oh well, I'll cook up something to import the source into the repo, then
<adisbladis> #nixos-chat is now about scandinavian "culture"
<talyz> Only our finest culture
<etu> adisbladis: Seems pretty on-topic to me :)
<cole-h> off-topic in nixos-chat is on-topic, and on-topic in nixos-chat is off-topic :D
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<Church-> Heh
<philipp[m]> Is meta on-topic or off-topic?
<etu> yes
<etu> :D
<philipp[m]> Holy shit! (literally) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_latrine_disaster
<philipp[m]> (Content warning: Pretty disgusting content)
<gchristensen> 73 philipp[m]
<cole-h> 74 gchristensen
<etu> gchristensen: You ham?
<gchristensen> yea
<cole-h> Oh, were those numbers meaningful? I just incremented because it seemed fun.
<etu> gchristensen: Nice :)
<etu> cole-h: yeah
<etu> cole-h: It has a meaning, which I picked up on :p
<etu> gchristensen: 73 de sa0bse :)
<gchristensen> (I was going to say thanks for the CW, and then realized 73 might be a fun way to say that, too :))
<ashkitten> what is 73
<__monty__> Hmm, is sshuttle broken for anyone else on darwin? Getting an attribute error related to importlib.util.
<cole-h> Wow, that's great in more than one way: 73 -> "best regards" in Phillips Code, and you pinged "philipp"
<cole-h> Nice x2.
<ashkitten> hah
<cole-h> https://www.qrz.com/page/hamspeak.html Heh, these are kinda fun
<etu> cole-h: Many of the ham abbrevs are kinda recognizable from what people use on the internet today, but much much older :D
<cole-h> YF short for "wife"
<gchristensen> etu: 73 from ki4vcd :)
<cole-h> gchristensen: That callsign (?) made me think of kicad lol
<Valodim> "88" is "hugs and/or kisses"?
<gchristensen> hehe
<__monty__> Oof
<etu> cole-h: YF is much better than XYL
<etu> gchristensen: I was away last week in the woods with my rig and a loop for HF. But the conditions was awful :(
<gchristensen> ouch, that is really disappointing :(
<etu> I could hear someone from croatia calling cq which was cool, and he could pick up that I responded to it, but we never got to speak.
<etu> other than that, no dice really
<etu> gchristensen: Have you seen my domain hack for my callsign?
<gchristensen> no!
<gchristensen> I used to be more in to it, and haven't really participated in a few years. I got a bit bored of the people who I was able to reach easily (they were super obnoxious)
<etu> gchristensen: sa0bse => sa.0b.se also email, s@0b.se and sa@0b.se :)
<gchristensen> nice :o
<etu> gchristensen: Well, I'm not super active either. It was just last year that I got my HF rig and I borrowed the loop from a friend. I've ordered my own loop but the pandemic season seemed to cause troubles for that order.
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<talyz> adisbladis: I've replaced niv with an update script now
<gchristensen> I think `entr` is getting in to my system packages .... this is two new system packages in a month. frightful.
<gchristensen> my environment is bloating so fast
<cole-h> Man, weechat's colorize_nicks plugin just stopped working for me :(
<__monty__> Heh, got another one : )
<__monty__> cole-h: You didn't just switch to a base16 theme, did you?
<adisbladis> talyz: Omg this is so nice
<adisbladis> Like, holy hell
<adisbladis> talyz++
<{^_^}> talyz's karma got increased to like 6, I think
<adisbladis> I'm in a dream
<adisbladis> talyz++
<{^_^}> talyz's karma got increased to 7
<adisbladis> So good you get a bit more karma
<__monty__> So the IFD problem was because a project you wanted to depend on used niv to manage its deps?
<adisbladis> No, the problem was that talyz introduced niv to pull in a dependency, resultin in IFD because of Niv.
<eyJhb> gchristensen: I.. I have so much crap
<eyJhb> I should use profiles for my NixOS stuff, just to have it divided
<eyJhb> But could easily change between "normal utils" and "RE, hacking stuff"
<adisbladis> gchristensen: I used to use entr but moved to reflex instead
<__monty__> adisbladis: Hmm, guess I'm not smart enough to grok it. Could you break out some diagrams?
<gchristensen> nice
<gchristensen> will look
<adisbladis> Same concept, just some additional nice things like recursive watch
<etu> talyz: That lisp parser is an insane piece of work :D
<etu> talyz: I love it
<adisbladis> It's truly a marvel to behold
<adisbladis> gchristensen: It also watches new files
<gchristensen> ohh nice
<gchristensen> sounds great
<adisbladis> I think talyz wins the internet for today
<etu> gchristensen: have you seen fromElisp ?
<etu> talyz/fromElisp on GitHub
<gchristensen> nooope..............
<gchristensen> not gonna look
<gchristensen> :P
<etu> Do it
<adisbladis> gchristensen: No one remembers a coward
<gchristensen> I remember at least a handful of cowards
<gchristensen> besides I'm knee deep in weird python :(
<__monty__> Ah, the best kind of python.
<talyz> adisbladis etu: aw, thanks <3
<__monty__> How Elisp-specific is fromElisp? Don't s-exp languages lend themselves well to shared parsers?
<talyz> __monty__: elisp has a few specific syntax quirks
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<talyz> __monty__: ..like vectors, bool vectors, records, byte code, and then the character syntax, which is just amazing
<__monty__> Character syntax?
<eyJhb> Using GeForce NVidia NOW to play, there was a update to ARK, now it wants to download all 32 GB of it. Plus side, it is at 40 MB/s
<talyz> Yes, emacs has its own syntax for specifying characters, which can be as simple as 'a' or as complex as 'a unicode character' while holding 'meta' and 'shift'
<__monty__> Oh, yeah, that's cool.
<cole-h> __monty__: It seems like weechat updated, so I updated the colorize_nicks plugin and all is good now :D
<__monty__> Not sure it needs to be part of literals, but nifty.
<__monty__> Regex parsing o.o
<talyz> __monty__: it's pretty reasonable for a text editor, but yeah
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<eyJhb> See what you did talyz
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<cole-h> > pkgs.fd # <-- worldofpeace
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/j2i64pgylr0d2b690d73dyfzff6vmlx0-fd-8.1.1.drv>"
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<ekleog> Fun thing: our libressl transitively depends on openssl :D
<cole-h> lol really?
<ekleog> well, we use `curl` to fetch the sources of some stuff (eg. pkg-config, which is depended upon by cmake, which is depended upon by libressl), and this `curl` always depends on `openssl`
<ekleog> at least in the resulting binary there's (hopefully) no openssl left
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<lovesegfault> ekleog: wat
<abathur> I guess it's appropriate for libressl to have a transitive dependency on openssl
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