<joepie91>
so now everyone is sending traffic to the broken internet backbone
<abathur>
can't get that HN link to load either, though lobste.rs loaded
<eyJhb>
Same abathur
<eyJhb>
Had to ssh to a VPS to curl it
<abathur>
nice
<eyJhb>
Does not look nice curled. What is a good cli browser?
<bqv>
Ugh. Can we work around this somehow? Or is it fucked at ISP-level
<abathur>
I don't know about nice, but I keep lynx installed for poking at sketchy stuff
<abathur>
or something I suspect might be nsfw
<eyJhb>
Fucked at ISP level bqv
<eyJhb>
As far as I know
<bqv>
I need to build my own isp smh
<abathur>
the internet is trying to tell me not to worry about fixing the travis-ci encrypted env secret that broke when I transferred this repo for now and move on to something that isn't a chore :]
<joepie91>
bqv: very much fucked at ISP level
<joepie91>
time to go outside!
<joepie91>
... unless you are in the half of the world where that is a problem
<bqv>
Never.
<eyJhb>
I am feeling somewhat sickish, I really wish to go outside (in nature, not into town etc.)
<eyJhb>
bqv: You can bring tea?
<eyJhb>
And biscuits?
<bqv>
I'm hungover in more than one sense, and extremely tired, I'm not even opening the curtains mate
<eyJhb>
infinisil: the unis have started to open here in DK, so we will see that soon as well
<eyJhb>
I don't mind it as much, as they have not considerd what to do if anyone gets sick regarding lectures etc.
<eyJhb>
So if you do get sick, then fuck you I guess
<eyJhb>
I hate the uni regarding their retarded decisions...
<abathur>
internet needs to try harder :P
<abathur>
has anyone transferred a repo that used travis-ci encrypted secrets to an organization and successfully got the secrets updated? can't get my cachix signing key to work post transfer :[
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: What's the alternative though?
<adisbladis>
Keeping unis closed indefinitely?
<eyJhb>
adisbladis: the complain is more, that if you have to stay at home there is no teaching material for you
<eyJhb>
There MIGHT be some half-assed slides. But besides that, fuck you then. They should at least try to record stuff, or do some extra work so everything is as good, as if you were present (almost)
<eyJhb>
But that is not the case... Sadly :/
<eyJhb>
As far as I know AU (aarhus university) are doing Zoom lectures, but the "working groups" are physical
<adisbladis>
Right, that makes sense to complain about =)
<eyJhb>
Which means, the uni is open, but they are on equal ground, if sick/potentally sick :p
<adisbladis>
Tbf though, this is how it's always been?
<eyJhb>
ALSO! You get the issue, that some might not stay away if potentially sick...
<eyJhb>
Shitty materials when sick?
<adisbladis>
Yeah
<eyJhb>
Yes
<eyJhb>
Which is why I liked the virtual thing. They were forced to make better material
<eyJhb>
But that is too hard, I fucking guess... :/
<adisbladis>
It IS hard
<adisbladis>
Especially when you don't have any experience in doing that since before
<eyJhb>
I should send you some of what we have . I know it is hard, but they are not even trying at times :p
<eyJhb>
Like, 10 years outdated slides
<eyJhb>
Where they have whited out the date, to try and hide it
<adisbladis>
Recording lectures is a good and fairly minimal effort though
<adisbladis>
That's good even for the people who do attend in person as study material for later
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<eyJhb>
Yup , but even not all Zoom lectures are recorded at AU :p
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<eyJhb>
Because apparantly the administration are afraid to enforce this
<adisbladis>
What's the reasoning?
<adisbladis>
I can imagine privacy being one
<eyJhb>
I heard something about copyright and GDPR, but really, that isn't that hard... :/
<eyJhb>
Copyright, the fucking teacher, GDPR/privacy, not really sure what. We don't take questions, and none have the webcam enabled
<joepie91>
sounds like a bad excuse
<eyJhb>
Yup
<joepie91>
I might accept "we are worried about how Zoom handles our privacy", but then that is nullified by streaming it over Zoom in the first place, recording it doesn't materially change that
<adisbladis>
You could host elsewhere
<adisbladis>
(Does zoom even do video hosting?)
<joepie91>
exactly, and apply access control if you have concerns about privacy that mean it should only be accessible to students
<joepie91>
it's not like these are big unsolved problems
<eyJhb>
joepie91: It is a custom zoom solution, meaning, it is not hosted at Zoom but Netic
<joepie91>
so I'm betting on "bad excuse" :P
<eyJhb>
It is a bad excuse
<eyJhb>
But our guidelines are just, bull
<eyJhb>
This is such a simple thing, thay they have not answered.
<boredom101>
I have made a proof of concept system that recommends boolean options based on your existing boolean options
<boredom101>
within a nix configuration
<infinisil>
Can't imagine anything from that explanation :)
<boredom101>
for example, if you have both zsh and direnv enabled in home-manager, it recommends the direnv integration with zsh
<boredom101>
to be enabled
<infinisil>
boredom101: Ah so it's something like `mkIf (config.programs.zsh.enable && config.programs.direnv.enable) { recommendations = [ "direnv integration recommended, enable with ..." ]; }`
<boredom101>
yeah, my goal is to make it work with all the nix config projects (nixos, home-manager, nix-darwin, etc.)
<infinisil>
Hm I see
<eyJhb>
Seems like a lot of work?
<eyJhb>
Anything smart behind the scenes?
<eyJhb>
Btw. adisbladis `Science vs` podcast with Coronavirus and Sweden. You might hate it
<boredom101>
well right now if just does manual recommendations, but down the road it might be able to generate recommendations by analyzing other configurations
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<sphalerite>
TIL ext4 supports file-based encryption
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<samueldr>
don't forget it also can support ignoring case for filenames
<samueldr>
what's the etiquette about pasting a less than 50 line output of dmesg in a kernel mailing list message?
<samueldr>
(less, but close to 50)
<samueldr>
I can't seem to find a freaking guide about etiquette guide about content
<samueldr>
it's all about "DON'T TOP POST YOU MONSTER" it seems
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<samueldr>
aaaand the only document with somewhat relevant (but not really) instructions on the lkml website is woefully outdated
<samueldr>
literally referring a tool in the kernel source tree that has been removed in 1999, and hasn't been updated (at the location this points to) since 2006
<samueldr>
"oh, it's easy to post to a mailing list"
<samueldr>
yes, it is
<samueldr>
but doing it _right_ isn't
<JJJollyjim>
ugh
<samueldr>
especially since it seems there is no place with all the right info, except the basics
<samueldr>
hopefully I don't get a pedantic clown that assumes everyone spends their whole days engaging with the kernel mailing list
<joepie91>
oof
<JJJollyjim>
simply add the dmesg output as an attachment... oh wait lol
<samueldr>
well, there *is* a semantic difference between both, but attaching it leaves it out of the flow of the question
<JJJollyjim>
the lkml rejects any MIME email, so I don't think it's possible lol
<samueldr>
oh, so when they say "attach" when talking about a patch that must mean it's just in the body
<samueldr>
(I would use git to send the patch anyway if I had a patch)
<JJJollyjim>
oh yeah you have to send it in the body
<JJJollyjim>
it's awful
<samueldr>
I guess you get used to it, but it's definitely a big stumbling block
<eyJhb>
joepie91: are you into podcasts? Or anyone, I need some new recommendations
<eyJhb>
Both because I need some, and I reinstalled Antennapod...
<samueldr>
no such thing as a fish is quite good
<samueldr>
a problem squared is too
<joepie91>
eyJhb: not particularly. but 99% invisible is good
<eyJhb>
samueldr: `a problem squared` is not in AntennaPods default feeds :(
<abathur>
meh, nothing more fun than spending multiple hours rerunning CI jobs to catch a rare flakiness problem only to see the intended patch fail for a dumb reason :[
<eyJhb>
abathur: I once spent a extra day on a CTF challenge, because I once uploaded the wrong payload.
<eyJhb>
I once uploaded/I uploaded
<abathur>
silver lining: it was at least kind enough to validate the search string I've been using on the output to confirm hit/miss; it took so long to get a hit that I had fallen back on checking them all manually again
<abathur>
eyJhb: doh :)
<eyJhb>
But 10/10 fun challenge, would do again. But such mistakes are not the most fun
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<abathur>
another silver-lining: the travis-ci build infra is either mistakenly or happily building this project on both their .org and .com infra, so I get to debug it ~2x as fast as I would otherwise *
<abathur>
* assuming I don't eventually have to flip my lid if I discover that the bug only manifests on one or the other
<samueldr>
(I'm not even watching, so I don't even know if it did go brrrr)
<infinisil>
It did go brrrrrrrrr
<infinisil>
Interesting, didn't know this: The entry burn of the first stage is to slow it down to not put too much atmosphere strain on it
<eyJhb>
It always goes brrrrr, if it goes up at least
<eyJhb>
And then we have it does not go... booooooom
<eyJhb>
:D
<infinisil>
Duddde this landing was awesome
<eyJhb>
Was??
<infinisil>
Lol
<eyJhb>
Speed at 18.000 km/h?
<eyJhb>
I should be at live again?!
<infinisil>
No watch it!
<eyJhb>
But I need to sleeeeep
<eyJhb>
01:30 here!
<infinisil>
Sleep can wait, rocket time!
<infinisil>
Okay I guess the most interesting bits are over :P:
<pie_>
uh what
<pie_>
"Sorry. We just need to do one small thing to keep going.
<pie_>
We will restore all your pages, windows and tabs afterwards, so you can be on your way quickly."
<pie_>
Firefox has just been updated in the background. Click Restart Firefox to complete the update.
<infinisil>
eyJhb: Maybe add yourself to the launch ping ;)
<pie_>
akso firefox is now refusing to load any pages
<eyJhb>
Ohhhh
<eyJhb>
That landing
<eyJhb>
:D
<drakonis>
i have acquired btrfs
<drakonis>
filesystem goes brrrrrrrrrrr
<infinisil>
eyJhb: Yeees
<eyJhb>
,launch
<{^_^}>
Ping for space stuff: infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m]
<eyJhb>
,launch eyJhb
<{^_^}>
eyJhb: Ping for space stuff: infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m]
<eyJhb>
?
<eyJhb>
:(
<infinisil>
,help
<{^_^}>
Use `,` to list all commands, `,foo = Foo!` to define foo as "Foo!", `,foo =` to undefine it, `,foo` to output "Foo!", `,foo somebody` to send "Foo!" to the nick somebody
<eyJhb>
,
<{^_^}>
Special commands: find tell locate expand inclusive-language random-pr - Commands sorted by use count, page 0 (use ,<n> to view page <n>): help libraries paste escape'' channels ping escape" -a library overlay pinning ifd profiling unfree ask botsnack which-channel xml xy fancy-uninstall wololo imperative nixlang++ cache pointers pills invite runtimedeps home-manager stateversion thesis exec matrixbridge smart-questions howoldis commands -ia
<pie_>
wait it looks like it only does that for local files wth?
<drakonis>
SPACE TIME
<eyJhb>
infinisil: Am I blind?
<infinisil>
,launch = Ping for space stuff: infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb
<{^_^}>
launch redefined, was defined as Ping for space stuff: infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m]
<eyJhb>
{^_^}: PING ME DAMN IT!
<infinisil>
Here I did it for you :)
<samueldr>
pie_: on NixOS?
<eyJhb>
Ahh, like that
<eyJhb>
,launch
<{^_^}>
Ping for space stuff: infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb
<eyJhb>
Sweeeeet
<eyJhb>
Thanks, infinisil++ for space stuff
<{^_^}>
infinisil's karma got increased to 347
<infinisil>
SPAACE
<eyJhb>
FOOOOOOOOORCE
<pie_>
samueldr: yeah
<pie_>
samueldr: hence my additional confusion
<pie_>
samueldr: i get it with file:/// but normal web pages work for now
<pie_>
what the _hell_
<pie_>
firefox on nixos doesnt even autoupdate?
<samueldr>
it shouldn't, and can't
<samueldr>
though on a manual update on other distros, a few years back, firefox would crap itself when trying to load the wrong version of internal file
<samueldr>
internal files*
<samueldr>
so I would have guessed it's a new mechanism to help
<pie_>
tbh im not sure ow long this has been broken because i havent opened file:// in ages but uh
<pie_>
well, maybe i just got some remotely installed trojans or something :p