gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<eyJhb> srhb: weeelcome back
<srhb> Thanks!
<eyJhb> srhb: did you get the dock to work?
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<etu> Hmm, I remember someone around these channels writing about they having huge emojis... I don't remember who it was, but someone had a suggested solution for it.
<etu> Yes, I found my note. Thanks!
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<srhb> eyJhb: I did! Though I'm not very happy with the outputs being wired to the nvidia card and, for some reason, compositing being godawfully slow on it.
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<Taneb> I'm going to publically state my ambition to be a release manager for the 21.03 release
<MichaelRaskin> I wonder at what point would some provider like OVH allow creating VPSes in someone else's name, or at least easily transferrable (the idea being that someone could offer a service of maintenance etc. of a service with a promise — with an option of taking over the server administration, or transferring to another service provider)
<MichaelRaskin> Taneb: so now you are not yet stating it, and when you finally do it will be in #nixos-dev ?
<Taneb> MichaelRaskin: it could just be on the street
<MichaelRaskin> For a geodistributed community street announcements have a really bad information-distribution properties, though
<Taneb> MichaelRaskin: I can wait until the 21.03 release for this, though, and then announce "I want to be a release manager"
<MichaelRaskin> That's true
<MichaelRaskin> You mean you want to be the junior release manager for 20.09 and senior release manager for 21.03?
<Taneb> Anyway, I would like to be the release manager for the 21.03 release and I'm going to spend some time learning what I need to be able to know to do that
<Taneb> No, I was thinking junior 21.03 and senior 21.09
<MichaelRaskin> Ah I see
<Taneb> My ambitions tend to be somewhat tempered
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<MichaelRaskin> You just don't want to take up important work unprepared!
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<eyJhb> MichaelRaskin: that is the best way to do it ;)
<eyJhb> srhb: Ahh, no fun... But hey, at least something works! *and it is not displaylink*
<srhb> eyJhb: Very true. :P
<srhb> Taneb: Met a coworker of yours yesterday at the CPH NixOS meetup, Basile. :)
<Taneb> srhb: yeah, he mentioned!
<srhb> Very friendly person! :)
<Taneb> He's occasionally on IRC as boomrang
<srhb> Oh, nice, thanks. I didn't catch his nick and had to leave early.
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<tilpner> And another repo made public just to not have to deal with private fetchgit
<tilpner> :/
<MichaelRaskin> tilpner: (not) doing what we can to promote opensource, I guess?
<infinisil> tilpner: I think builtins.fetchGit should work fairly well
* tilpner looks at Nix source for fetchGit args (because what are docs)
<tilpner> Oh, this one's docuemented!
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<MichaelRaskin> Re: transferable VPS — I guess Nix-based separation of software set and state could suit such a service well, once the hosters make it possible.
<joepie91> there are differences in (virtualized) hardware setup between providers
<joepie91> at the very least you'd have to re-gen the hardware config
<joepie91> aside from that; providers don't really have an incentive to make services easily transferable to another provider
<MichaelRaskin> No, I want another notion of trnaferability
<joepie91> and many of them are stuck on SolusVM which is more or less unmaintained :P
<MichaelRaskin> I speak of transferability inside provider
<joepie91> most providers will let you transfer services on request already
<joepie91> (if you create a support ticket)
<MichaelRaskin> Well, OVH never mentions that, BuyVM explicitly says they do that… between two long-standing accounts… and don't like doing it
<MichaelRaskin> Both don't sound like a situation where you want to make a selling point out of a promise to transfer client VPS under their full control if they want to
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<elvishjerricco> Reeeaallly shouldn't have preemptively tried out 19.09. Bluetooth doesn't work. Rebooting is broken. The display locker is broken. Ugh.
<elvishjerricco> Where is progress for 19.09 tracked?
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<aminechikhaoui> elvishjerricco I switched to 19.09 2 days ago and it seems to be working fine for me. haven't tested bluetooth yet though
<aminechikhaoui> there was a minor problem with i3 config which is easy to fix
<andi-> bluetooth works for me, display locker works and rebooting works..
<elvishjerricco> andi-: fwiw I think my reboot problem has something to do with zfs. When I reboot, it hands while shutting down, and when I check journalctl after resetting, there's a bunch of jabber about zfs services followed by a message like `kernel: BUG: ...` and a bunch of call traces
<samueldr> only issue for me is alacritty's known issue with gl updates not happening on X here
<andi-> elvishjerricco: I also have ZFS on two of the machines I upgraded. That is weird.
<hyperfekt> elvishjerricco: oh wow, that sounds quite dramatic - i hope they're all opened issues?
<elvishjerricco> Well I think I just found an indication of my bluetooth problem. A couple of blueman processes keep spawning, immediately dying, and respawning, and so on.
<samueldr> there were some grinding of teets about ibus changing its emoji panel, but 🤷
<samueldr> teeth*
<elvishjerricco> hyperfekt: Will open issues when I know a thing or two more
<hyperfekt> elvishjerricco: awesome :]
<samueldr> OH, you're right elvishjerricco, blueman-applet is broken here
<samueldr> but bluetooth continued working
<samueldr> I only realised when I looked at the logs
<elvishjerricco> samueldr: What logs are you looking at?
<elvishjerricco> oh i see
<samueldr> journalctl --user
<elvishjerricco> that's a lot of spam from blueman
<elvishjerricco> I don't know how to kill this
<samueldr> pkill blueman did it for me
<samueldr> it filled it up with so much crap I couldn't see what I actually wanted to look at at that point
<samueldr> I then disabled blueman :/
<elvishjerricco> That did it
<samueldr> not ideal, but at the same time, not been using blueman really
<samueldr> I wondered if it was only me, looks like it isn't
<elvishjerricco> samueldr: What else can I use to manage bluetooth stuff?
<samueldr> bluetoothctl is likely good enough to do everything
<samueldr> but less visual
<samueldr> I haven't searched for a visual alternative yet
<elvishjerricco> Yea, but a gui would be nice :P
<samueldr> in fact it's possible I'll look in the issue if/when I need to
<samueldr> though I've been busy with other stuff lately :)
<samueldr> now, to figure out what's up with [systemd-]udev and the pixel 2
<elvishjerricco> bluedevil seems to work outside of kde, but it doesn't show my headphones (even though they show up in bluetoothctl)
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