gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<talyz> kraem: I think geary is supposed to be pretty lightweight and easy to use.. I'm using evolution myself, though.
<buckley310> i just started using geary this week. it feels pretty lightweight and friendly, although it might depend on the gnome online-accounts infrastructure
<buckley310> when you click the button to add an account it just opens the gnome control panel for me. not sure if there is a fallback mode
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<gchristensen> I am in such an incredibly uncomfortable headspace right now
<etu> gchristensen: jetlagged? :)
<gchristensen> in my hotel room desperately wanting to sleep and not sleep
* etu just finished the first version of his password-store extension
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<gchristensen> oh?
<etu> Building the git-repo now
<etu> It should be up soon :)
<das_j> gchristensen: Are you in brno?
<gchristensen> yea
<das_j> Ah nice 👌
<gchristensen> you here?
<etu> gchristensen: Repo here: https://github.com/etu/pass-checkup -- I have not yet written the readme :)
<das_j> gchristensen: at around 6
<gchristensen> cool
<das_j> I hope
* etu comes to Brno at 1440 with bus:)
<gchristensen> cool, etu!
<das_j> And I thought we were the only ones coming at Thursday
<__monty__> It checks a pass database to some leaked passwords databases?
<etu> __monty__: yes
<etu> I have a bit of readme now :)
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<etu> And a screenshot, such wow :)
<__monty__> etu: Pretty cool. Didn't feel like going for that posix compat?
<etu> __monty__: you mean like not printing anything and just have exit codes? :)
<etu> __monty__: I could have a flag for that
<__monty__> etu: No, I'm talking about the shebang.
<__monty__> BSD systems don't always have bash.
<gchristensen> woohoo, I'm /0 VPN'd over wg
<etu> __monty__: pass is written in bash, and requires bash afaik
<gchristensen> etu: this is great! I'd like to use this
<etu> __monty__: And since it runs inside of pass -- there's no point to it :)
<__monty__> etu: Valid argument.
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<ajs124> Anyone else (trying to) get to Brno via Salzburg and Vienna (EC217, RJX161) rn?
<__monty__> etu: I wonder whether the range lookup doesn't *still* leak a lot of info though? If I check a single password with its prefix and I get ~500 result hashes. Haven't I just reduced the entropy of my password to 1/500?
<gchristensen> ajs124: also check out #nixcon
<__monty__> Is that channel suitable for people who are sitting at home, envious? ; )
<gchristensen> sure
<samueldr> hey, since we're speaking fonts
<samueldr> you know the hate about comic sans ms, and papyrus
<samueldr> first of all. meh
<samueldr> but let's ignore that
<etu> __monty__: Well, that I won't decide for you :)
<samueldr> if you want to be cursd in noticing another font, one that generally, up to now, passes freely
<gchristensen> __monty__: I think only if there are 500 possible passwords, which isn't true -- there are infinite number of passwords with thath prefix
<samueldr> (make sure your content blockers allow the font to load) https://www.linotype.com/158119/revue-family.html
<samueldr> you may start seeing it with great frequency, now that you can identify it :)
<__monty__> gchristensen: Oh, yeah. Thanks. Wasn't thinking right. Was reasoning that your password would be one of the ~500 returned but that'd only be the case if it's been leaked.
<etu> __monty__: If your password is leaked and there's 500 results. Sure, yours is one out of 500. But if it isn't leaked, it's out of that range
<etu> :)
<gchristensen> and hibp doesn't know
<etu> I think that api is pretty solid
<gchristensen> samueldr: oh no
<etu> oh well
<etu> I should get packing, eat some lunch and to go Brno :)
<talyz> buckley310: Yeah, probably. Evolution does too, but it can still be used outside gnome as long as the online-accounts service is running :)
<__monty__> Ok, so quick back of napkin reasoning suggests giving away the 5 hexit prefix reduces the entropy of your password about a million-fold.
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<gchristensen> etu: how do I install this? :)
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<etu> gchristensen: I'll get back to you on that later :)
<samueldr> this site is so charmingly designed https://www.idsjmk.cz/EN/
<talyz> samueldr: wow
<talyz> My plane is stuck at the airport, apparently Prague is foggy :/
<gchristensen> ouch
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<adisbladis> talyz: It was foggy yesterday too
<adisbladis> My plane was 1.5hrs late
<xd1le> out of curiosity, are there livestreams for nixcon by any chance?
<xd1le> talks
<adisbladis> xd1le: There will be, yes
<xd1le> nice!
<xd1le> ty
<talyz> adisbladis: Right :/ Immediately after I wrote that, the plane was ready for take-off, so only ~45min late, luckily
<etu> gchristensen: Check the "Extensions for pass" section here: https://www.passwordstore.org/
<adisbladis> talyz: Yay!
<etu> gchristensen: For the development I've used the .extensions directory and the environment variable.
<etu> gchristensen: I could make a PR for nixpkgs as well :p
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<talyz> adisbladis: ..but it got delayed further - they had to wait for a spot to land once we reached Prague :D
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<adisbladis> talyz: Ahh, standard stuff :P
<adisbladis> etu: Looks pretty neato, except not a fan of this style https://github.com/etu/pass-checkup/blob/master/checkup.bash#L21
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<etu> adisbladis: That can be changed :)
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<sphalerite> etu: why do you do that?
<etu> sphalerite: Hm, old habits? What's the better way?
<gchristensen> why do that instead of depending on PATH resolution
<sphalerite> etu: exactly, use `tr` instead of $TR
<etu> Hm, ok. I just like gathering external deps like that. But I'll change it when I get to a computer :)
<gchristensen> one advantageto what youhave is it would error out early
<talyz> adisbladis: maybe? :D
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<adisbladis> A camera walked on my keyboard
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<gchristensen> maybe better than a live cat
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<cransom> i remember trying to package... sumologic? and it did all that stuff. also very weak os detection and it would hard code paths to certain utils. drove me bonkers.
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<etu> gchristensen: There you have a way to install this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/71919 ;)
<{^_^}> #71919 (by etu, 2 minutes ago, open): pass-checkup: init at 0.1.1
<__monty__> etu: Nice : )
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<gchristensen> off by one error in my TZ in my dock -> off by one error in howlate I stay up :(
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<jackdk> gchristensen: solution: UTC EVERYWHERE
<joepie91> jackdk: relevant: https://qntm.org/abolish :)
<jackdk> joepie91: I've read it. UTC everywhere plus a table of business hours would be better than timezone insanity. I had to deal with an email yesterday that said "are you free for a call at 2:30?".
* joepie91 just coordinates appointments in UTC already
<jackdk> Me too, but if I ruled the world, I'd say "well we tried giving you timezones and you made a mess of it, so I'm taking them away"