gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<etu> eyJhb: [jellyfin,chromecast] Not yet. It may work in chrome, but I don't use chrome. And the app doesn't show my chromecast, but I found a recent issue about that and they said that it will be fixed in the next release.
<eyJhb> etu: hmm weird, works "fine" on my Chromecast, but I just don't get any option to change audio, video, quality, etc. which was why I asked (if I was just being stupid and couldn't find the controls)
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<qyliss> A generic "how to install Linux" guide on a popular blog, and it just casually uses NixOS
<joepie91> qyliss: 4 year old article, too
<joepie91> though recently-ish updated
<qyliss> I suspect it wasn't about NixOS four years ago but the wayback machine doesn't have it so who knows
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<joepie91> qyliss: the text suggests otherwise; it talks about a 14.x NixOS version!
<qyliss> oh, wow you're right, I missed that
<joepie91> the NixOS version is what made me originally look at the date of publication :D
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<elvishjerricco> I wonder if any linux distro will ever make zfs the default file system, now that so many distros are distributing zfsonlinux.
<elvishjerricco> I think Ubuntu is adding it to their GUI installer IIRC, but it's not going to be the default.
<joepie91> elvishjerricco: afaik ZFS is very much not maintenance-free?
<elvishjerricco> joepie91: Has been for me
<elvishjerricco> Unless you mean maintenance-free for the distro, not the user
<elvishjerricco> In which case, I guess that's fair :P
<ashkitten> zfs is definitely not a one-size-fits-all filesystem, you need some expertise to use it properly imo
<elvishjerricco> ashkitten: Is any fs one-size-fits-all? I think for regular desktop users who don't muck about with stuff like the fs, Ubuntu could do it and it wouldn't really phase them.
<eyJhb> Wouldn't surprise me really.. THey might just make some daemon that makes some sane defaults, does some checks, and alerts the user with a simple UI for them to click things until it works
<ashkitten> i'd say zfs requires somewhat more tuning for good performance
<elvishjerricco> For enterprise server type stuff, I guess it's more of a risk to use as the default
<ashkitten> but overall.. maybe?
<elvishjerricco> if you don't know what you're doing that is
<elvishjerricco> But I think the target market for ubuntu desktop would be well suited for it.
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<tilpner> ashkitten: What tuning have you done to get good performance?
<elvishjerricco> recordsize, ashift, and vdev layout are probably the most impactful that I'm aware of. But there's looots you can do
<tilpner> I feel like ashift could be automated well enough
<tilpner> All I ever do is run utilities to tell what block size is used
<elvishjerricco> I still have no idea how to accurately determine the proper ashift and just use 12 for everything :P
<tilpner> Just have the installer do that
<ashkitten> i added some log and special devices which helped a lot, but i don't remember whatever else
<elvishjerricco> IIRC most drives lie about their block size since lots of controllers kind of assume 512B
<tilpner> elvishjerricco: Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
<tilpner> That's from fdis
<tilpner> That's from fdisk
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<ashkitten> zfs will automatically default to whatever sector size the disk reports, but it can lie about that
<ashkitten> ssds very often do
<tilpner> ashkitten: Beyond the logical/physical numbers?
<ashkitten> my ssds report 512 byte sectors but iirc there's basically no ssd that actually has 512 byte sectors
<ashkitten> yes
<tilpner> Why would it lie about the physical sector size?
<ashkitten> idk
<tilpner> When it already reported the logical sector size to be 512
<ashkitten> my ssd reports 512/512
<tilpner> Huh
<tilpner> Both SSDs I currently have access to report 512/4k
<elvishjerricco> Yea my 960 pro reports 512/512, but there's absolutely no way that's true
<ashkitten> i forgot to set ashift=12 when i added the special and log devices so it's got ashift=9 rn
<elvishjerricco> ouch
<tilpner> You're both using fdisk "p"?
<ashkitten> it's whatever
<elvishjerricco> "p"?
<tilpner> I enter p, press enter, and it gives me the line from above
<elvishjerricco> I just did `fdisk -l`
<elvishjerricco> But "p" gives the same result
<tilpner> Ahh, that works too
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