gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<etu> eyJhb: Hmm, you may be right about that. I should look into that
<etu> eyJhb: I'm only using stable on a few machines :p
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<eyJhb> etu: as far as my tests show, it doesn't work, also forwardedPorts specifies host -> container :D
<eyJhb> God. Damn it!
<etu> The best named vulnerability recently is netcat
<etu> Stupid name :(
<eyJhb> etu: https://getvim.com
<etu> eyJhb: huh?
<eyJhb> etu: just the name.. :p Confuses me each time
<eyJhb> But yeah, I agree, the Netcat one should be a prison sentence
<eyJhb> Considering just going prepaid for a while, until my carrier confirms/deny if it is possible on their network
<eyJhb> etu: is it just me, or is there no "Direct Stream" forceable option in the Jellyfin app?
<etu> eyJhb: I can show stuff in my app? I don't know how "direct stream" would differ from that?
<eyJhb> IT has "quality"options, e.g. 1080p 60 mbps, but there is only like "auto" and then ALL those options. I just miss one that directly states "direct", so I know it won't do any transcoding what so ever
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<hyperfekt> anyone have an idea how to build a minimal ssh-based distributed database? i want several machines with nix to share builds but not have them build the same thing at the same time.
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<tilpner> Day 4 of the great GC, not sure if it's making progress :c
<Taneb> Speaking of GC, they didn't take my recycling this week :(
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<hyperfekt> tilpner: D: what
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<tilpner> hyperfekt: I had unused disk space, so I neglected to do periodic collections
<tilpner> Apparently it's freeing at 12MB/s, so it might take another day
<hyperfekt> that seems awfully slow - does the GC have to search everything for references or are they found when a path is added?
<tilpner> Store paths are scanned while adding them to the store
<tilpner> But a mirror of spinning disks is slow, and /nix/store/.links is flat
<manveru> might be faster turning off optimization first
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<eyJhb> Taneb: kick them!
<eyJhb> etu: I have questions. When you modify your configs on your servers, do you then have a key for each server, so it can push to your repo?
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<ajs124> fpletz: how's the sprint going? I sadly couldn't show up due to university stuff.
<sphalerite> ajs124: we're still here!
<ajs124> sphalerite: how long do you think people will be there?
<Taneb> Where's "here"?
<sphalerite> Taneb: Mayflower office in Munich
<Taneb> Aha! Somewhat far for me
<sphalerite> ajs124: globin says 8, 9, 10, something
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<ivan> hyperfekt: I run hydra and point everything at a nix-serve on that machine
<hyperfekt> ivan: Hm, I was trying to avoid the complexity of having a build server over just using distributed builds but maybe that's actually the simplest way to achieve what I want.
<hyperfekt> Is there a way to get Hydra to do one-off builds like I would with a distributed-builds setup?
<Taneb> Hmm, I wonder how small it's possible to get a functioning NixOS ISO
<eyJhb> Taneb: I have a feeling joepie91 have tried that/knows
* joepie91 redirects Taneb to clever
<eyJhb> Ah.. I should have rembered that one. Isn't the first time
<samueldr> though this isn't exactly nixos, it's nixpkgs-built and has many of the advantages, but you won't have nixos-rebuild in there
<sphalerite> Taneb: all you really need is a kernel and nix + deps
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<qyliss> zimbatm++
<hyperfekt> qyliss: {^-^} is taking an unscheduled break
<qyliss> I have since been informed :)
<sphalerite> mudri: will you still be coming along?
<etu> eyJhb: Most of my servers doesn't have ssh keys
<etu> eyJhb: Depending on what system it is I make the changes on the system, and then apply the changes on a client with a key and push the changes.
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<eyJhb> etu: makes sense ;) - Do you have any good way, of making a container use the unstable channel? Without forcing the host to?
<hyperfekt> love too try and reexport an option (this did NOT work thanks to imports not being resolved at that point): `settings = ((head options.home-manager.users.type.getSubModules).submodule (args // { name = user; })).options.programs.vscode.userSettings`
<hyperfekt> this is not a request for help i'm just whining about how extending / altering modules in Nix instead of patching them sucks so much that it's effectively impossible
<eyJhb> hyperfekt: I feel SOME of that pain
<infinisil> Did you guys even watch a movie from your PC during the night and were annoyed at how the action scenes were *so* much louder than the talky scenes?
<infinisil> Well I certainly was, just yesterday, but I found out how to fix it!
<infinisil> Pulseeffects has an effect called "Auto Gain" which corrects for this
<infinisil> Works really well, can recommend if you ever need this
<eyJhb> I think VLC has something build in as well for this. Also, we Danes are the best at making movies that suck like that infinisil
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<ivan> I just use in-ear monitors
<__monty__> Easy to damage your ears that way though.
<eyJhb> __monty__: depends on the size of the monitor
<eyJhb> 24" might hurt
<infinisil> Lol
<__monty__> Yeah but for real. I don't know of any in-ear/earbud type phones that don't cause hearing damage with prolonged use.
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<cransom> because of volume?
<samueldr> it *may* also be caused by stereo vs. dolby 5.1 shenanigans where they don't master it too well for stereo listening
<samueldr> though if it is, I haven't found a solution for that
<cransom> usually when i have monitors in, its at a lower level because of the isolation
<eyJhb> We are two different people cransom , I usually crank it up and bass boost around 80%, which is 100x better because of the isolation :D
* infinisil is also using bass boost in pulseeffects
* eyJhb likes infinisils style
<infinisil> I think my speakers are just too wimpy
<eyJhb> I usually use my headset, always... Else it is the build in x230 speakers
<eyJhb> btw. infinisil , which movei?
<eyJhb> s/movei/movie/
<infinisil> Incredibles 2
<infinisil> Oh and we also watched Treasure Planet
<eyJhb> Ohhh I should watch that again... Or Atlantis
<infinisil> Ohh atlantis is nice too
<infinisil> Treasure planet is one of my favorite movies all time
<ivan> __monty__: I don't see how you'd get hearing damage in the 60-70dB volume range
<eyJhb> It is SUCH a long time since I have seen Treasure Planet, I should really see it again... Might wait for my friend to come home again, and force her to see it as well :D
<eyJhb> After a hour or some messing with certificates, I am more like "do I really need certificates anyways..."
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<__monty__> Microsoft/cisco certs? No. SSL/TLS certs? Yes.
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<__monty__> ivan: I think it's to do with the fact your ears don't get to relax. Sound in a room vs just your ear canals is a completely different business.
<eyJhb> __monty__: But but.. :(
<ivan> I've been using earplugs and IEMs near-continuously for 9 years and my hearing hasn't been damaged by them
<ivan> it gets damaged by loud noises outside though
<ivan> earplugs I mention because I get the same tinnitus amplification effect that could supposedly cause my ears to not relax
<emily> __monty__: do you have any cites for that?
<__monty__> Nothing specific no.
<__monty__> Feel free to google scholar it. There's plenty of research.
<__monty__> On/over-ear is not much better.
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<__monty__> And I never claimed loud noises aren't bad for your ears.
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<eyJhb> Well, if you claim X, Y and Z, isn't it up to you to have sources for that claim __monty__ ?
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<__monty__> Feel free to not heed my warnings. Take responsibility for your own health. I'm not gonna be dragged into a pedantic discussion about how studies are flawed.
<__monty__> This is just based on my completely informal meta-analysis of studies. I have nothing to cite and I don't care if anyone takes my word for it. That's not my goal.
<emily> I'd be happy with just one link to any study claiming it, all I can find is popsci articles that mention without any source and mentioning it hand in hand with high volume, which seems like the obvious confounder...
<emily> it's not pedantry, I'm legitimately curious if there's any basis to the claim
<emily> I'm kinda skeptical that the difference between over-ear and in-ear would be that big compared to differences of volume, admittedly
<emily> (I do care about my health which is why I try to do actual research on health claims, which is impeded by attitudes like this...)
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<infinisil> Recently I'm also longing for more sources for things people say
<infinisil> There's just so much stuff floating around without any proper evidence
<eyJhb> Easier to claim things without sources
<eyJhb> Makes life easier
<infinisil> Yeah, but also doing a proper experiment and evaluating the results correctly is hard
<infinisil> And it's easy to make mistakes
<infinisil> I can't blame anybody for not doing that :)
<joepie91> infinisil: keep in mind that not everything is well-researched and so sometimes a 'sound rationale' is the best you'll get :P
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<joepie91> it's less strong than a solid pile of proof, but still useful to make a preliminary decision on something
<infinisil> Yeah, a sound chain of reasoning is still better than nothing
<eyJhb> infinisil: sometimes finding the sources, etc. is also a good way of finding out "it wasn't like I remembered". I know that happens somewhat often
<ivan> ah the Mechanisms section is the one I wanted
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<mudri> sphalerite: I think there's too much to be getting on with at AIM at the moment, so I'm not going to be making tomorrow either.
<mudri> I could see when I've got a few days free, but I'm not sure that'll be a weekend.
<mudri> Yeah, that'll be Wed/Thu, 18th/19th.
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