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<aleph->
gchristensen: Christ
<aleph->
gchristensen: Didn't verizon pay $1-3B?
<gchristensen>
they bought all of Yahoo
<gchristensen>
Yahoo paid 1.1B back when they first bought Tumblr, when Tumblr was independent
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<adisbladis>
I remember when they were acquired by yahoo, they were one of the biggest clients at my work
<adisbladis>
Then shortly after that there was cost cutting and they didn't want to use contractors any more
<adisbladis>
gchristensen: I wonder if you worked with those guys :)
<gchristensen>
oh!
<gchristensen>
quite possibly, if they were old timers
<pie__>
wow this channel could have bought tumblr with a few mortgages :p
<adisbladis>
I only remember the names of Felix and Caesar from those days
<gchristensen>
oh yeah Felix
<gchristensen>
I don't remember a Ceasar. Felix was still there though.
<adisbladis>
gchristensen: When did you join tumblr?
<gchristensen>
uh
<gchristensen>
mid 2016
<adisbladis>
gchristensen: Felix got employ directly with tumblr after the contract with that place ended
<adisbladis>
That was back in 2013
<adisbladis>
:)
<gchristensen>
nice
<adisbladis>
So way before your time
<adisbladis>
I enjoyed working with him :)
<gchristensen>
it was a mega weird time to be joining
<adisbladis>
Why so
<gchristensen>
Verizon started buying right after I joined
<gchristensen>
so a lot of fear about layoffs
<aanderse>
am i bad at git, or am i not allowed to push to r-ryantms PRs?
<aanderse>
... or both -_-
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<infinisil>
aanderse: You need to add a separate remote
<infinisil>
Well at least that's what I do
<infinisil>
have an r-ryantm remote, fetch it, check out the branch of the PR, push to it
<aanderse>
infinisil: thanks
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<pie__>
unrelated
<pie__>
something something systems engineering
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<eyJhb>
pie__: well, my meeting got cancelled :p
<pie__>
eyJhb: postponed or cancelled?
<pie__>
not sure if happy or say
<pie__>
sad
<pie__>
on on ehand you made the presentation
<eyJhb>
pie__: Well, postponed I should have said. - Yeah, but it really sucks. Because I need the funding
<eyJhb>
Like, studying and having another jobs besides this, which I don't work on because I like this project doesn't pay the bills
<eyJhb>
But how is it going with your harddrive pie__ ?
<pie__>
eek :I
<pie__>
well, seemed like a lost cause so i just started copying stuff back on it
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<eyJhb>
Ahh, how much is it?
<pie__>
few hundred gigs, doable in the background
<pie__>
its almost done
<eyJhb>
Ahh
<eyJhb>
I should have a backup at some point of $HOME
<pie__>
"the best day to make a backup is today"
<pie__>
look at me, i just made my backups and already lost/used them! ;P
<eyJhb>
pie__: what do you use for backups? :p
<pie__>
i have an external drive
<pie__>
and through mostly coincidence happen to be using syncoid to copy my snapshots over
<pie__>
this is the first time im using it so
<eyJhb>
Ahh, yeah okay. I would properly end up using my server
<eyJhb>
With my bad discs
<eyJhb>
But bad discs are almost better than none
<pie__>
especially with zfs
<pie__>
well, depends on what you mean by bad :P
<eyJhb>
*ext4
<eyJhb>
I think SMART says they are almost failing
<pie__>
not sure what the smart outputs even mean TBH
<pie__>
if you have enough drives that you can swap them as they fail i suppose that could work without even losing any real backup capability
<pie__>
as long as they dont fail at the same time, which can be probable under circumstances like...power surge? flood? earthquake? armageddon?
<pie__>
we we're talking about amazon's SLA in the face of WWIII the other day
<pie__>
*were
<eyJhb>
Never ever felt a earthquake in my entire life, power surge, much more... But yeah. I have just thrown all the discs I have into my server. Some are 5+ years old...
<eyJhb>
Should properly check which I can use. But I mean, as long as I mirror them I whould be fine
<eyJhb>
And I have a 4 TB WD RED that is only like two years ol,d should be good
<pie__>
probably make sure your monitoring and notifications work :P
<pie__>
and that it actualy is a backup and not the single copy :P
<eyJhb>
I have a weekly notification from fatso that tells me if notifications work, and docker healthchecks for the rest :p
<eyJhb>
Backup and not a single copy? What do you mean?
<pie__>
dont use it as extra storage space :P
<pie__>
unless you have faith in your mirrors
<pie__>
just the fact that its a physically separate machine from your work machine is one redundancy factor, if i had a choice, with how many times i screwed up my active disks
<pie__>
id keep a third backup set as offline copies?
<pie__>
of course screwing up active disks would happen less if you werent actively trying to make changes to them...
<pie__>
and then when you have too much money and important data, actual offsite backups xD
<pie__>
out of these i have one semi-offline disk. namely the external backup.
<pie__>
re: wanting a third, cold copy, because of examples of screwing up this one
<pie__>
so....to relabel everything i just said...active, staging, backup? :P
<eyJhb>
I just made a huge mistake of looking at my ROP bufferoverflow from yesterday, and now I am too tired to function...
<eyJhb>
But you are right pie__ , should properly do that... :p I actually think I have a cold copy at my dads
<pie__>
everything is a constant microcosm of the same stuff :I its like locking /version control/ idk/ all over again
<eyJhb>
But I really have no files that would make sense to store cold like that, as my projects change so often... And most if not everything is git
<pie__>
eyJhb: its not like ive done it properly, this is just a small brain dump from the past few days
<eyJhb>
pie__: true...
<eyJhb>
My next project is still converting my server to NixOS
<pie__>
i store copies of my old project
<pie__>
s
<eyJhb>
I should seperate my projects and my git projects...
<pie__>
sure, if you dont care about your data, done need backups, [shrug emoji] xD
<eyJhb>
My current projects folder is 33GB
<pie__>
*dont
<pie__>
by git do you mean uploaded to github or what?
<eyJhb>
And somehow my go/ folder is 25GB
<pie__>
dont ask me whats taking up 600 gigs for me, i dont really know
<eyJhb>
I mean git projects, like.. I have `projects/git/`, which is a folder only with projects on github/gitlab that I have cloned or are working on
<pie__>
dont see why that precludes a backup unless youre actively uploading your changes to github
<eyJhb>
Yeah, I guess pros and cons. Maybe OTHER git projects, and my own
<eyJhb>
Because I have a tendency of cloning a git project, just to play with it and never deleting it again
<pie__>
*sjrug*
<eyJhb>
I should properly have some kind of structure in my $HOME folder :p
<pie__>
i always find ontology hard
<eyJhb>
I also have /data, is another SSD in my laptop, which is somewhat just used for VMs
<pie__>
my stuff is still a mess but maybe its *less* of a mess now? :/
<pie__>
im pretty (but not very) liberal with creating new zfs datasets for anything that takes up more than a small amount of space and lasts a while
<pie__>
got stuff like library, home, movies, work, dump
<pie__>
xD
<pie__>
dump is where everything that i need to sort goes
<pie__>
its a bad place :I
<eyJhb>
I should properly use ZFS at some point...
<eyJhb>
Hahhaahaha
<eyJhb>
"You must never go there pie__!"
<pie__>
lol
<pie__>
maybe thats where all my space went..
<eyJhb>
Hhaha
<eyJhb>
I should properly also exclude `Downloads/`
<pie__>
also a bad place
<eyJhb>
Also.. I should find that config that allows me to specify the name of Downloads, Pictures, etc..
<pie__>
well not anymore since i moved the last batch to dump
<pie__>
dump is the new downloads
<eyJhb>
My brother had a Downloads the size of 1 TB I think
<eyJhb>
Because, why not.. The load times on Windows was .. unbearable
<pie__>
xD
<eyJhb>
Wth.. I just started looking at some reports. We are hosting a CSGO bot thingy
<eyJhb>
Ahh, going from "Peaceful Piano" to "Bass Explosion"
<adisbladis>
That's the XR though, emphasised bass
<eyJhb>
Just as to not post anymore ... sensitive data :p
<joepie91>
interesting development at $localHackerspace's weekly barbecue: since someone started centrally purchasing vegetarian meat-replacement thingies (and offering it as an option), the amount of barbecue participants picking vegetarian has been steadily rising
<joepie91>
10 meat, 6 vegetarian, right now
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<Taneb>
A lot of vegetarian barbecue food is very nice
<joepie91>
Taneb: dunno, it's only recently that good off-the-shelf 'meat replacements' have appeared here
<joepie91>
suitable for BBQs
<joepie91>
there's a lot of stuff like corn cobs etc. that you can BBQ but that doesn't fit well into our process :P
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<eyJhb>
test
eyJhb is now known as eyJhb
<eyJhb>
God damn it...
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<eyJhb>
I think most places in DK has it? THough I do not like for it
<eyJhb>
Btw. etu how is it going with the antenna?
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<adisbladis>
eyJhb: Seemed to be going well :)
<adisbladis>
He was super excited about it when I met him the other day :D
<eyJhb>
He was too with me/us :D All those fittings and lovely cables!
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<eyJhb>
adisbladis: how long are you staying?
<adisbladis>
Where?
<eyJhb>
Stockholm? Weren't it a hollidays kinda thing?
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<infinisil>
Goddamnit
<infinisil>
Our internet is broken again
<infinisil>
Well, our internet *connection*
<infinisil>
For some reason the router won't reply with DNS requests
<infinisil>
And doesn't forward DNS packets to the gateway either
<infinisil>
And how can I debug this? Yeah I can't, reset and restart
<infinisil>
Back before we got this fritz box, I told my family "I want to get a router to myself with openwrt, this will be much more flexible and debuggable"
<infinisil>
But noooo, they all just wanted something that Just Works (tm), which the FritzBox advertised itself as
<infinisil>
Oh and actually, maybe it's not the router after all, but our Devolo powerline things
<infinisil>
These are also very very screwy and we're having continuous problems with them
<infinisil>
Or it might just be our power cables at home
<infinisil>
Though it works fine most of the time, not sure why it suddenly would stop
<eyJhb>
Sooo infinisil , I am guessing a great day?
<infinisil>
YES VERY
<eyJhb>
You might need a virtual hug and a pie
<eyJhb>
What is the plan of action then? Throwing out the box and getting something else?
<infinisil>
I haven't tried resetting it completely yet
<eyJhb>
Remember the last option, smash it with a hammer.
<eyJhb>
It will not solve it, but it will make you happy for a short while
<infinisil>
With this I'd at least know whether it's broken or not
<infinisil>
And damn, whoever designed this web interface should be punished
<infinisil>
There's like 8 sections on the left, where you can select one, which then expands to 8 sub sections
<infinisil>
And in each of those subsections you have a different view, with potentially multiple tabs up top
<infinisil>
So that's three levels of hierarchy
<infinisil>
But do they have a search function? No!
<infinisil>
It took me and my brother like 20 minutes to find the DNS settings
<infinisil>
Oh and don't even expect to use the sections names to look for something specific
<infinisil>
</rant>
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<infinisil>
Okay so I'm 99% sure it's not on my side
<infinisil>
It's my ISP that fucked stuff up
<infinisil>
My dad just told me he also had problems with another sim card
<averell>
well, lucky you if you can change DNS settings :) many fritz boxes are locked down so that you can't, then you need https://github.com/olistudent/FBEditor
<infinisil>
averell: Oh that sounds interesting
<infinisil>
It's really hard to work on my bachelor project without internet, because I don't have the docs locally :(
<infinisil>
While I can run a hoogle (haskell docs) server locally, I have to set that up first, which is hard if the internet connection is so flakey
<infinisil>
I guess I could just firefox /nix/store/...-some-haskell-package-docs/.../index.html manually
<manveru>
though i guess that's not super useful for specific haskell library docs...
<infinisil>
Yeah..
<manveru>
hoogle never seemed to give me much more than the function signature
<manveru>
but i'm sure that's just because haskell folks are too proud to write docs :P
<infinisil>
Oh I meant haddock, not hoogle
<infinisil>
But yeah there's a lot of librarise that could use more docs :)
<manveru>
looks like after building euphenix for static site generation, i next need some little cms for writing the blog posts... :|
<manveru>
i never seem to run out of yaks to shave
<tazjin>
can I determine whether sandboxing is enabled within an expression?
<tazjin>
(please don't ask why for now)
<gchristensen>
uh oh
<gchristensen>
maybe look at how nix-info works
<tazjin>
gchristensen: does nix-info work if called inside of a derivation?! `info.sh` calls `nix-build`and I would have expected that to require recursive Nix
<tazjin>
oh
<tazjin>
I see
<gchristensen>
nix-info does not work inside a build
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<infinisil>
Well, um, I may have figured out the problem with the internet
<gchristensen>
unplugged
<gchristensen>
?
<infinisil>
Nah
<gchristensen>
:D
<infinisil>
Just now when I ran mtr (advanced traceroute)
<infinisil>
It looks like there is a routing loop..
<gchristensen>
oops
<infinisil>
Goes from my router to 107.181.189.35, to 10.176.0.1, 192.168.247.97, 10.176.0.1, 10.176.0.1, 10.176.0.1, ...
<gchristensen>
not nice
<infinisil>
Oh actually, that might have been an artifact from traceroute
<gchristensen>
who is 10.176... and 192.168...? those are private IPs
<infinisil>
That seems more likely actually
<infinisil>
It's all behind NAT and stuff
<infinisil>
Wait no, it would be weird if this was a traceroute artifact
<infinisil>
Yeah that's definitely a loop somewhere
<infinisil>
Lol and actually, this sometimes even loops back to my router at home
<infinisil>
There's 2 AS involved in this: One is AS3303 which is my ISP, and the other is AS6453, which is Tata Communications in the USA..
<gchristensen>
Tata Communications is an Indian company
<gchristensen>
...weird
<infinisil>
Definitely feels like something screwy is going on, but then again with how our internet works, this is not uncommon..
<infinisil>
BGP isn't secure, and neither are many other protocols used in the stack