gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<gchristensen> load shedding!
<pie_> hot take: do notation but for overlays
<samueldr> hm?
<pie_> im just memeing
<pie_> off to bed it is for me (Attempt N+1)
<andi-> ha, good luck.. :D
<aanderse> oh pie_ is behind that nix wine project?
<aanderse> hmm
* aanderse searches
<aanderse> hmm can't seem to find the page
<samueldr> deliciouslytyped is their github username
<aanderse> thanks samueldr :)
<aanderse> yeah i remember seeing this a while back and thinking pretty fantastic
<aanderse> hows it going samueldr?
<samueldr> busy shaving this new yak
<pie_> aanderse, fantastic seems like an overstatement till theres anything minimally substantially decent in the repo...
<aanderse> well... fantastic idea at least :)
<pie_> aanderse, thanks for the compliment though ^-^
<aanderse> i hate battling a game in wine
<aanderse> then 6 months later it doesn't work anymore and i have no idea
<aanderse> though steam proton really fixed a fair bit of that
<samueldr> wrt my yak: validating whether an assumption I make is true: that booting EFI wrecks *something* with the sunxi/allwinner DRM things
<aanderse> bought a game for my sons birthday... installed... pressed play... and it worked :D
<aanderse> samueldr: i'm exhausted and that sounds horrible
<aanderse> ha ha ha
<andi-> i once wrote a little wrapper that transformed one of those gaming on linux tools yaml files and setup a nix-shell from them... didn't work for that game so I stopped
<samueldr> well, while shaving that yak I also made refind work for aarch64, so a net positive :)
<aanderse> nice
<samueldr> or, more appropriately, built with Nixpkgs on aarch64
<samueldr> (turns out that, somehow, the arrow keys on the pinebook keyboard don't work with refind :/)
<aanderse> ah not fun
<pie_> andi-, pls giv thx
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<andi-> pie_: not sure if I still have that around.. must have been almost a year ago.. hit me up tomororw (evening) and I'll start searching through backups
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<aanderse> my cpu fan went bad. cpu went up to 98 celcius when compiling :S
<aanderse> replaced today. solid 35 celcius when compiling :)
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<samueldr> welp, that was dumb... all that time and I "just" needed to load the upstream kernel dtb for the device instead of relying on the u-boot provided one
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<eyJhb> joepie91`: oh no you didn''
<joepie91`> eyjhb: just reproing an issue :D
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<eyJhb> Which issue? :p
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<joepie91[m]> eyjhb: that one :P
<joepie91[m]> basically, backticks in nicknames seem to break mention rendering in this client
<sphalerite> joepie91[m]: https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/4984 probably related
<{^_^}> vector-im/riot-web#4984 (by lheckemann, 1 year ago, open): Mangled names in highlights
<{^_^}> vector-im/riot-web#7134 (by turt2live, 41 weeks ago, open): Pills for users with backticks get converted to code when complimented with another backtick
<joepie91[m]> sphalerite: bonus bug: https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/9771
<{^_^}> vector-im/riot-web#9771 (by joepie91, 34 seconds ago, open): Incorrect escaping of IRC(?) nicknames
<sphalerite> oh yeah
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<gchristensen> does anyone do anything fancy w.r.t. hostname resolution and wireguard?
<ivan> gchristensen: I generate a hostname for each machine with .wg suffixed
<gchristensen> wow!
<gchristensen> this looks amazing!
<ivan> note routeThrough doesn't work because it doesn't work in the module
<ivan> (I didn't know there was a wg-quick module at the time)
<gchristensen> oh cool
<gchristensen> I'm curious about the `endpoints` bit, w.r.t. how multiple are supported -- I'll
<gchristensen> have to read the code :)
<ivan> config "icvm" [ "work_vmware_nat" "internet" ] { ra = 25; plato = 25; } <- when getting a config you pass in a list of innermost to outermost networks
<ivan> for each peer it just picks the endpoint for the first matching network, if any
<ivan> (wireguard doesn't support having multiple endpoints)
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: does tinc count?
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<tilpner> Seeing as how tinc is not wireguard... probably not c.c
<tilpner> I'm still annoyed that I had to go ipv4 just for Android support :/
<gchristensen> sphalerite: it might, what do you do?
<sphalerite> Still going to share because it allows putting them in public DNS :)
<sphalerite> don't look too closely at my use of type = lib.types.attrs; :p
<ajs124> ivan, huh, we have/are working on something quite similar. although ours is _slightly_ more hacky and over-engineered. it involves bird2 and OSPFv3, for reasons.
<ivan> ajs124: see, I don't even know those things exist
<cransom> ivan: what kind of services do you get to over wireguard? i assume mostly ssh or non-encrypted web endpoints (unless you are using your own internal certificate setup)
<ajs124> ivan: you probably don't need them for your setup. We only need them because some of our hosts' internet connections suck in weird ways.
<ivan> cransom: yeah, unencrypted web endpoints and databases and I also use it to make connections to a machine behind a NAT with no port forward
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<infinisil> #61742 :O
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/61742 (by abbradar, 7 hours ago, open): lutris: init at
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<gchristensen> oh yay
<averell> oooh
<averell> maybe i can finally kill my arch dual boot
<gchristensen> (I'm "oh yay"ing at abbradar being active again, though lutris is cool I guess :P)
<averell> the people want circuses1
* infinisil wonders about the closure size of lutris
<tilpner> If anyone wants to import PRs from Nix for some reason:
<tilpner> pr = n: import (fetchTarball "https://api.github.com/repos/nixos/nixpkgs/tarball/pull/${toString n}/head") {}
<clever> tilpner: neat, i would have just used fetchgit against pull/n/head, but then you need the sha256
<tilpner> clever: fetchgit is also much slower
<tilpner> Though I haven't checked what kind of caching Nix does for git, and how much that helps
<clever> tilpner: i was thinking pkgs.fetchgit, which cached based on name+sha256
<tilpner> clever: I was talking about the initial clone. I don't know if Nix intelligently re-uses other fetches of nixpkgs, so that not all the history has to be transferred again
<clever> for pkgs.fetchgit, its mostly pure, so it cant cache things
<clever> but it does do a shalow clone i believe
<clever> tarball will still beat it
<tilpner> Ahh, it was builtins.fetchGit that cached things in ~/.cache/nix/gitv2
<clever> yep
<clever> and that doesnt use a sha256 as much, and will have to re-query to see if things are old
<tilpner> Which might be appropriate for this case
<tilpner> But I'm not going to use this much
<clever> yep
<clever> but that doesnt use a shalow clone
<clever> i think
<tilpner> pkgs.fetchgit clones shallowly?
<tilpner> Yes, seems it does
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<sphalerite> oh dear, getting some, uh, interesting graphical glitches on my old laptop. I… think I might need to run a memory test on it.
<sphalerite> Recently learnt about the memtest linux kernel param, this will come in useful :)
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<pie_> I wrote the BEST test framework
<pie_> ONOES. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡extendableExtend failed.
<pie_> isExtendDrv: Yay! =^.^=
<sphalerite> heh, my old laptop (macbook pro)'s monitor has some dark patches which seem to coincide with where the hot air comes out…
<sphalerite> great idea, venting the cooler's air onto the monitor
<sphalerite> (although this may be a coincidence)
<pie_> iunno man
<gchristensen> using irccloud makes it mega tempting to use "@" to target people .
<pie_> horrible isnt it, changes your brain :P
<joepie91[m]> gchristensen: cannot reproduce this in Matrix/Riot
<joepie91[m]> :P
<joepie91[m]> so I wonder what irccloud does that makes it so tempting...
<gchristensen> probably just feeling like Slack enough
<joepie91[m]> ah, I haven't used Slack much, maybe that's why
<joepie91[m]> because I think Riot looks similar-ish to Slack too :P
<pie_> all these web chat things look the same dont they?
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<joepie91[m]> oops, ignore the workrave window
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<gchristensen> they really do
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<andi-> Is there also a dense mode for riot?
<joepie91[m]> andi-: not yet, unfortunately, as far as I know.
<joepie91[m]> I really do want one
<joepie91[m]> this mode doesn't work well for busy channels
<andi-> I really feel like that one guy for the XKCD not wanting to leave IRC because I have it set up the way I want it...
<tilpner> There is
<tilpner> Settings>General>Use compact timeline layout
<joepie91[m]> right, I should have been more specific
<joepie91[m]> I meant oer-channel :)
<joepie91[m]> per-channel*
<tilpner> andi-: You can use Matrix from weechat
<gchristensen> same andi-
<tilpner> Densest layout around
<joepie91[m]> actually, this dense mode isn't even what I want :(
<andi-> anyone know what res:// (the uri/protocl) is being used for?
<gchristensen> I don't like irccloud. I switched to it while I replace the server I ran weechat from, starting with much more important things (like {^_^})
<andi-> I am trying to make sense of the firefox changes that have no commit message and an restricted bug entry..
<tilpner> gchristensen: What happened to your backups?
<gchristensen> I have backups
<gchristensen> doesn't make it trivial to replace the system though
<tilpner> No? I just restore the backups and rebuild with the old config
<andi-> I have procrastinated moving my weechat to another system for a while now... Just haven't done it.. does that count as hot-spare? :D
<clever> the worst system failure ive ever had, was when the power supply and motherboard both died together, but the hdd survived, and it was trivial to move the data out
<tilpner> Except for manually managed keys, that's pretty much all I had to do when I got hardware replacements for my server
<gchristensen> tilpner: with the nature of the failure (bad RAM) I wanted to only restore very specific data
<tilpner> Oh, because you didn't trust the backups?
<gchristensen> right. I wanted to only restore data I *had* to (like channel advancements)
<tilpner> That makes sense
<averell> but all those irc logs...
<gchristensen> I am definitely restoring those.
<andi-> has anyone implemented logrotation for weechat logs?
<gchristensen> I wouldn't want to lose them, I find them too valuable
<andi-> not in terms of throwing away but having a file per week/month/day/…
<averell> that would be nice, especially since they could then compress.
<gchristensen> ivan: this is what I did for the NixOS infra: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-org-configurations/blob/master/modules/wireguard.nix
<gchristensen> I wouldn't mind them being stored in a format which isn't text as long as there was a great search tool (something I'd like anyway)
<averell> zgrep :)
<gchristensen> mmm something smarter, like be able to track a user across logins and re-nick's (by their IP or username in the join message)
<andi-> quassel can log to mysql ;-)
<gchristensen> right now I do that by hand when I want to see if two nicks are related
<samueldr> quassel tries hard to do that, but has failed in the pas
<andi-> I migrated away from it to weechat and I am much happier with it... The text files aren't that big of an issue even at around 10GB
<gchristensen> I have them in zfs now and compression is very nice
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* samueldr should cook up a NixOS one
<gchristensen> if you do, I'll plug it in
<pie_> 0_o
<pie_> are they really trying to turn github into facebook
<samueldr> "social previews" are good imo
<pie_> what are they
<samueldr> in the concept that it's not internal to github
<andi-> Openings PRs via Mail would be nice ;-)
<samueldr> sure!
<samueldr> but sending a link to nixpkgs in slack, twitter or facebook will show a banner instead of whatever it does now
<samueldr> which helps with recognition
<pie_> oh
<samueldr> I don't think it's adding a picture to the top of the repo
<samueldr> I hope it's not
<pie_> i thought it was something else
<pie_> yeah thats what i thought it is
<samueldr> did it ever itch you so bad you needed to put a hole in your GPT? now you can https://github.com/samueldr/holey
* samueldr probably should have tested it on hardware before sharing
<gchristensen> nice :D
<joepie91[m]> pie_: samueldr : currently, the 'social preview' defaults to the repo owner
<joepie91[m]> so it's a new override rather than a new feature :)
<joepie91[m]> (to the repo owner's avatar, that is)
<joepie91[m]> for instance...
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<samueldr> joepie91[m]: there is one configured here https://github.com/samueldr/TEST
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<joepie91[m]> :)
<samueldr> thanks
<infinisil> andi-: I wouldn't mind a native GitHub client
<infinisil> With ncurses or so
<infinisil> Or even GTK
<samueldr> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-artwork/pull/44 <- gchristensen if it looks fine for you
<{^_^}> nixos-artwork#44 (by samueldr, 44 seconds ago, open): Adds social preview banners
<samueldr> the gradient used: the same exact colours as the navbar from the website
<andi-> infinisil: not sure if that would cut it for me... I saw a blog post about sr.ht where they are now able to display comments on diffs (via Email) as discussions on a website.
<infinisil> Neat
<infinisil> But email integration seems very hard to get right
<joepie91[m]> doesn't github already do that?
<andi-> nope, you can't do code reviews via Email
<joepie91[m]> oh, code reviews
<joepie91[m]> riight
<joepie91[m]> right*
<infinisil> I'd be more than happy with an ncurses client, so I don't need to use the super-laggy web UI
<andi-> one day I'll start hacking on one and never finish.. Like so many projects.
* joepie91[m] is making a data model for hosting provider data
<joepie91[m]> surprisingly much crap to represent :D
<andi-> grrr how do you open a PR for a stable branch without Github loading a gigantic diff and locking up for a minute?
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<samueldr> with more ram
<samueldr> to be more helpful, but not enough: you can use a specific URL for it, but I don't think there's a way to trigger that URL before first going through the main branch, in the github UI
<pie_> joepie91[m], gonna try publishing this mess in a repo tomorrow https://bpaste.net/show/94cce5c664f4
<pie_> also i got non-cumulative and cumulative backwards
<joepie91[m]> pie_: will need to look at it more carefully tomorrow, but seems interesting/sane at first glance
<pie_> the impl is a huge ...crap.. right now imo, or at least i wouldnt proudly claim i did this xD
<pie_> but i _thing_i finally ironed out any big bugs
<pie_> at least until i find another one
<andi-> samueldr: RAM isn't an issue... seldomly use 10 of the 32GB I have in this notebook.. I usually customize the URLs but sometimes I just try to do it "the proper way" and then figure it doesn't work...
<pie_> also still trying to write tests
<infinisil> pie_: Is this like an RFC or?
<pie_> infinisil, just a normal git repo for starters
<pie_> i feel like other people would think this is too bloated ;~;
<pie_> it used to be cleaner but then ~things~ happened
<infinisil> But you intend to make this an RFC?
<pie_> infinisil, at some point, if i feel its less garbage
<pie_> id not have put so much work into it if i didnt want to try upstreaming it
<pie_> or rather, why bother at all then
<pie_> or something. i dunno lol, tl;dr yes i want to RFC it later
<infinisil> Cool :)
<pie_> infinisil, maybe we can stop having every language implement its completely separate nix infra :p
<joepie91[m]> pie_: fwiw, I'm more interested in the high-level design of the abstraction, than in the quality of implementation :)
* pie_ looks at R -_-
<pie_> joepie91[m], ya
<joepie91[m]> implementations can be fixed
<joepie91[m]> high-level designs not, without breakage
<pie_> joepie91[m], i feel the current design is kind of mutually horrible, i got hammered it till i managed to _seemingly_ implement it so that it ended up looking how i wanted
<pie_> really im just not happy with _api
<pie_> well, i havent actually tested my use case yet :I ...fingeres crossed everything doesnt break tomorrow
<pie_> (it works at least somewhat)
<joepie91[m]> might have some feedback on it tomorrow :)
<pie_> joepie91[m], \o/ and me maybe a cleaner repo and no fundamental flaws
* pie_ stares suspiciously at >_> `makeExtensible (self: bootstrap) #TODO how to turn it inside-out`
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