<gchristensen>
anyone know if you can upgrade a fuse filesystem without restarting the process? like exec a new copy of yourself, inheriting the /dev/fuse file handle, and just keep on going?
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<sphalerite>
Is there a way to use rsync on block devices?
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<eyJhb>
Someone please visit https://www.digitalocean.com/ using chromium or anything, and see if it suddenly starts using A LOT of CPU
<gchristensen>
sphalerite: yikes, not sure rsync could get you anything better than a straight dd?
<gchristensen>
eyJhb: confirmed, 100% cpu
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: I imagine it could save a fair bit of data transfer in my use case: copying the current state of the VM block devices from an old server to a new one, then later syncing the remaining differences for the actual switch.
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: so kind of like what you could have with zfs snapshots, if both sides had zfs
<eyJhb>
gchristensen: It is weird... :/
<gchristensen>
yeah but you can't really know which blocks are newer I don't think?
<eyJhb>
Might be the animation thing....
<gchristensen>
your browser has a perfromance doohicky
<eyJhb>
Yeah, from that it seems like it is a lot of drawing (but I have never used it before)
<eyJhb>
Also "doohicky", best term to use ;)
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<infinisil>
Oh no
<infinisil>
Doing C++ again (Nix codebase), and now I have a program that behaves differently depending on whether optimizations are turned on
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: sure, but reading them and comparing them could still be faster than transferring all the blocks again
<sphalerite>
infinisil: undefined behaviour!
<infinisil>
Yay \o/
<infinisil>
I think it might be a similar thing to before, something about inlining
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<gchristensen>
sphalerite: yeah, true
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<cransom>
It's a litle depressing doing conferences (speaking of All things open, currently) and all of the tech discussions are containers/kubernetes and service mesh. The one specifically I watched now was that containers were the only way presented that you could launch a test environment with multiple versions of shared librarys/runtimes.
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<hyperfekt>
"Do not use Nix. Nobody understands Nix unless they have time to burn, Nix barely ever works, the guy who uses NixOS can never get anything to work, Nix will kill your project."
<hyperfekt>
wonder what this person experienced to trigger this
<hyperfekt>
ouch
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<__monty__>
hyperfekt: Yikes 😬
<hyperfekt>
context is haskell
<__monty__>
Really? I'm absolutely loving nix for haskell development.
<__monty__>
Or do you just mean merijn's grumpy take on nix?
<cransom>
who hurt them, i wonder. the feedback from the devs i work with have nearly no idea on how nix works, but they love it compared to the piecemeal homebrew/rbenv setups they previously used.
<cransom>
or at least they say they do. maybe they lie to me to be nice.
<__monty__>
Could also be they were interested and tried to use it and it was too hard and now they lash out because if it is good that must mean they're not smart enough?
<__monty__>
Haskell itself has this effect on people too sometimes.
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<bqv>
it goes that, i accidentally had imap publicly accessible for a month or so, and apparently someone managed to get in and start using my email
<bqv>
now one of my addresses is on spam lists
<sphalerite>
bqv: huh? IMAP can't be used for sending mails
<bqv>
oh, you're right, then wtf
<bqv>
i'm very confused. but i'm recieving mailer-daemon messages for things i haven't sent, and i'm on spam lists
<bqv>
*something* sketchy is up
<bqv>
oh
<bqv>
1025
<bqv>
that's my smtp
<bqv>
i guess something found out about that too
<bqv>
thanks for pointing that out, or i'd have missed it
<bqv>
either way, is there a way to evict myself from generic spam lists or is that the fate of that prefix now
<cransom>
in practice, i've found it's basically tainted forever. though the internet may eventually kind of forget.
<bqv>
bleh. fair, guess i'll delete that one
<bqv>
just a shame, cause it's the "mail@<domain>"
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<lovesegfault>
Mic92: Can I specify a different attr for nix-direnv to `nix-shell`?
<lovesegfault>
I normally do `nix-shell ./nix -A myProject`
<Mic92>
lovesegfault: `use nix -A foo` should work
<lovesegfault>
Mic92: that does work! neat!
<lovesegfault>
Mic92++
<{^_^}>
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<lovesegfault>
Mic92: follow-up, whenever I touch default.nix my direnv reloads, which is awesome. Can I manually add files to be reloaded whenever I touch them?
<{^_^}>
LnL's karma got increased to 88, it's a crit!
<LnL>
I believe there's also a manpage with all of the builtin stuff
<LnL>
man 1 direnv-stdlib
<lovesegfault>
Oh, nice
* lovesegfault
reads
<LnL>
I only use dotenv and nix tho :)
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<elvishjerricco>
Raspberry pi compute module 4 announced today. It even has a pcie 2.0 lane. I really want someone to make a laptop that just pops a compute module in and isn't garbage.
<samueldr>
well, it'll have a raspberry pi, so :/
<samueldr>
(sorry, too much of a low-brow low-blow
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<infinisil>
gchristensen: Ping again, can you update https://channels.nix.gsc.io/ to point to nixpkgs instead of nixpkgs-channels? The latter is deprecated and not updated anymore