gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<gchristensen> oh dear.
<infinisil> Well, I made this
<infinisil> Fnv1a32/64 in Nix
<infinisil> Hold on, got an error there
<samueldr> is the error using nix for such tasks?
<samueldr> :)
<infinisil> Never!
<infinisil> Now I need some way to plot how random this hash is..
<infinisil> Eh whatever
<infinisil> Unfortunately that hash needs divisions
<infinisil> Because Nix doesn't have a bit shift operator
<infinisil> (Why does nix need bitwise xor/and/or though anyways??)
<gchristensen> imo it probably shouldn't, but IP masks and subnetting and what-not
<infinisil> Ahh yeah
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<samueldr> >:( the github API now throws 500s in the deeper paginations of the nixpkgs PR results
<drakonis_> stop using github, run own instance
<samueldr> like I can
<drakonis_> pay big bucks for all the folks cloning nixpkgs
<gchristensen> samueldr: we must be very annoying :)
<samueldr> gchristensen: what stings is that about two months ago the same thing I was doing worked!
<gchristensen> we've had like 2.5k new issues since
<samueldr> it's not like it 500s deep though :/
<drakonis1> how many commits this year? 33k?
<samueldr> :) I'll know more numbers later
<gchristensen> 2.8k commits last ~30d
<drakonis1> ah, fast.
<samueldr> weird how on the "pulse" page, PRs are not "Open", but "Proposed"
<simpson> Hm. In the name of security, could somebody either invite me to Lobsters or let folks at https://lobste.rs/s/e36giy/peertube_hits_1_0_0 know that Peertube doesn't provide metadata privacy? Peers know which videos you've watched.
<{^_^}> Chocobozzz/PeerTube#316 (by tdelmas, 32 weeks ago, closed): Privacy of the viewers
<drakonis_> no idea how you're not invited
<simpson> I'm an antisocial misanthrope who generally hates stuff.
<drakonis_> join the party
<simpson> And I know that Lobsters invites come with a poisoned-root sort of policy.
<drakonis_> do they?
<simpson> I've gotten like half-a-dozen accounts banned from HN, and Lobsters is basically HN but with fewer people.
<drakonis_> lobsters was spawned from HN because HN is bad
<drakonis_> and the mods are bad
<simpson> But yeah, on topic, I sincerely worry that PeerTube's designers have totally ignored basic rules of 2018 security, and somebody's gotta say something.
<drakonis_> i'm incredibly lazy atm to log into my account to invite
<jasongrossman> I agree ... but that's only FWIW. I don't have anything to do with lobsters.
<{^_^}> Chocobozzz/PeerTube#685 (by Insoleet, 16 weeks ago, open): Give the possibility to opt-out the webtorrent
<simpson> Drakonis_: Yep. https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/685#issuecomment-399040234 is emblematic of this irritating position on security; when shown the problems, the modern dev shrugs and says that their feelings are hurt.
<infinisil> simpson: If nobody has yet, I can invite you if you give me an email :)
<simpson> infinisil: cds@corbinsimpson.com
<infinisil> Lol, https://lobste.rs/ just went down as I was about to send it
<infinisil> Oh it's back up
<infinisil> Alright, sent it :)
<drakonis_> it rebooteed
<drakonis_> lobsters 2: claw harder
<simpson> infinisil: Thanks. Left a short blog post: https://lobste.rs/s/e36giy/peertube_hits_1_0_0#c_lkj9ce
<jasongrossman> simpson: Nice post IMO.
<simpson> Thanks! I put effort into finding sources.
<emily> simpson: wait, how did you get half a dozen accounts banned on HN?
<simpson> emily: Most memorably, I had a psych experiment to see how strong the correlation between ignorant outrage and upvotes was (super-strong, but above ~20pts you risk the banhammer), I had a short anti-scientism PSA, and I can't remember the others.
<simpson> Scientism is *big* on HN.
<drakonis_> they're actually very interested in the idea that they're rational and totally not emotional
<simpson> I think it's nothing short of hilarious that there's at least four distinct rationalist skeptic styles out there and all of them elbow for room at the rationalist thought-table.
<simpson> It's up there with Bayesian rationalists using feelings to estimate priors.
<drakonis_> that's silly to read
<drakonis_> as far as i know, lobsters should be fine
<jasongrossman> simpson: I don't know about hilarious, but it's at least very interesting. I've lost count of the number of prima facie ridiculous things (some of them actually true IMO, but still prima facie ridiculous) that skeptics will happily believe just because they're said by scientists.
<emily> lobsters has plenty of terrible comments too, sadly.
<jasongrossman> Most everywhere does. Not nixos-chat though.
<drakonis_> the norm is less terrible posting at least
<emily> I agree, I like it a lot more than HN
<simpson> Disregard people, acquire cats.
<emily> simpson++
<{^_^}> simpson's karma got increased to 1
<emily> I would like a website like lobsters except only cats are allowed to post on it. it'd just all be mews and keymashing.
<emily> the links would still be technology
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<drakonis_> startup culture :|
<sphalerite> infinisil: ah, since you're integrating builtins.currentTime I suppose it is
<sphalerite> I thought you might have a separate function which you pass builtins.currentTime into
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<sphalerite> ugh, Deutsche Telekom.
<sphalerite> Hijacking nonexistent domain names with adverts: check.
<sphalerite> "safe listing" outgoing SMTP (submission) connections: check. WTAF!?
<sphalerite> You can't send email from a default-configured Telekom home router if you don't use one of their sanctioned mail services (gmail, gmx etc)
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<andi-> usually you can disable that in the stupid speedport
<samueldr> fun! #46931 is the consistent 500 github returns
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/46931 (by r-ryantm, 3 weeks ago, open): wavebox: 3.14.10 -> 4.1.0
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<sphalerite> andi-: yeah, but that requires pestering the people whose connectino you're using
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