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<gchristensen> that serial adapter arrived and I'm pretty thrilled to have one with proper hookups instead of the junky taped-on-wire-wrapping I did before
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<samueldr> remember to not use the 5V lead
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<gchristensen> aye aye
<lopsided98> It seems like cross-compiled NixOS is broken now until https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/66741 is fixed because perlPackages.XMLParser has grown a transitive dependency on ModuleBuild
<{^_^}> #66741 (by lopsided98, 1 year ago, open): perlPackages.ModuleBuild (a dependency of git) fails to cross-compile
<samueldr> do we know how it was grown?
<samueldr> might be that the change is unneeded?
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<samueldr> right, so outright an upgrade
<gchristensen> lol.
<gchristensen> plugged in the pi, all good. disconnected, hooked up RX, TX, GND ... plugged in the pi ... dead.
<gchristensen> did I kill it? (sweating bullets) no, dog stepped on the power strip's switch
<DigitalKiwi> quit playing with computers and play with the dog
<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: did you test the PR?
<gchristensen> I didn't yet :/ sorry
<gchristensen> I'm behind on a commitment for another thing that hopefully I can wrap up tomorrow
<samueldr> "Infinite Noise TRNG" <- they make a USB version of my mind?
<gchristensen> lol
<gchristensen> turns out, es1
<gchristensen> yes!
<gchristensen> ubuntu@tinyca:~$ infnoise --debug --no-output
<gchristensen> Generated 1048576 bits. OK to use data. Estimated entropy per bit: 0.879012, estimated K: 1.839115
<gchristensen> num1s:50.900828%, even misfires:0.119403%, odd misfires:0.154400%
<gchristensen> neat
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<samueldr> (watching the video)
<samueldr> oh right, I forgot the librem 5 is also a thicc boi, which uh... is a major con considering that AFAIK it doesn't mean more battery capacity
<Ke> no, there is the modular thing
<Ke> still there is slight concern about being able to ship though
<Ke> while at least they do provide phoc and phosh
<samueldr> "the modular thing" about what?
<samueldr> oh, and forgot about the librem 5 and how they ship different modems depending on where you intend to use it :/
<Ke> yes m.2
<samueldr> on the librem 5?
<samueldr> oh, TIL
<samueldr> not sure it's worth it
<samueldr> might be
<samueldr> at least that makes the modem a user-replaceable part
<Ke> well 5 years ago user controlled phone that runs modern isa and is nearly supported on mainline kernel was just an utopian dream
<samueldr> make sure to get one for north america and one for europe then
<Ke> would have paid 1000€ for that
<Ke> I did ask for a refund, because I could not be emotionally attached to a prolonging project, where the messaging was not deemed trustworthy by me
<samueldr> wow, that video has some quite terrible mistakes
<Ke> video?
<samueldr> that clever to me linked earlier today... yesterday
<samueldr> [18:15:42] <clever> samueldr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH8DRyKUZDg
<samueldr> [18:15:53] <clever> "Purism Librem 5 Smartphone"
<samueldr> that thing about video codes not being open source friendly because there are patents
<samueldr> video codecs*
<Ke> well now I need to listen to exact wording
<samueldr> I can find you the segment
<samueldr> (I misquoted)
<samueldr> (but the sentiment is similar enough to not be much of an issue)
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<samueldr> another year, another planet computer mediatek phone https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transformer/x/19358938#/
<Ke> I think it is true that many open source people have problems with patents, the statement is though indeed misleading, as the patented codecs do have open source implementations that may have legal complications, especially, if you are a company
<Ke> we don't get sued for patent infringement, but puri.sm maybe just might
<samueldr> and then there's patented as a way to prevent trolls to patent
<samueldr> like AV1 and such
<Ke> probably would be too small to bother, but still
<samueldr> it's way more likely that this specific iceweasel (most likely directly from debian) isn't built with any decoding ability
<Ke> true
<samueldr> IIRC youtube uses VP8 as one of the video codecs
<samueldr> made to be open source at the core IIRC
<samueldr> or uh, bought and used with that intent
<Ke> I believe there is a some set of codecs for each video, not everything for everything
<samueldr> second paragraph has details about VP8
<samueldr> plausible, but AFAIUI it's popularity-based and "original content" based
<samueldr> e.g. uploads from 2006 won't have fresh new encodes
<Ke> also some companies make vague claims things are still patented
<Ke> like microsoft does claim for linux
<Ke> yup
<samueldr> yeah, the crux of my issue was the off-handed remark about the issue, which was most likely untrue... when he's a public figure of autority on the subject
<samueldr> (like it or not, LTT is not small)
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<Ke> I like LTT, but obviously they get things wrong occasionally
<samueldr> yeah
<Ke> and whenever they make episodes about out of the box ux on devices that are not normally used out of the box, it's obviously not fair
<Ke> you can cover episode like this by just stating, there was really not much ux out of the box
<Ke> showing all the flaws in the preinstall is just beating a dead horse
<Ke> then again, why does puri.sm ship it that way, pinephones were half decent even as preinstalls
<samueldr> uh, the first batch didn't have a preinstall :)
<Ke> yeah, but then it's obvious
<samueldr> (except if you consider the special postmarketos build that was used for testing a preinstall)
<samueldr> but yeah
<Ke> I did get also bh
<Ke> that shipped with pmOS factory test
<Ke> this is imo actually the best thing to ship imo preinstalled
<samueldr> in your opinion, right?
<Ke> because the first thing one should check is that things work
<samueldr> yeah :) especially in this kind of power user early adopter thing
<Ke> well I could not state anything other
<samueldr> (you stated "imo" two times)
<Ke> oh true
<samueldr> also a reason why I focused a bit on the "hello" app thing with mobile nixos
<samueldr> while it's not testing much yet (touch input, some display info), it's intended to test more at some point
* samueldr takes note to somehow add network manager bindings or something
<Ke> wonder how there are so many paper cuts that the pinephone pureOS did not
<Ke> like the focus thing
<samueldr> was the phone software updated?
<Ke> probably not
<samueldr> or ran from out of the box with months old release
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<Ke> honeycomb is just getting better all the time
<Ke> might decomission mcbin this week
<Ke> full 5 block device set just works
<Ke> I am just afraid that next thing I add will regress back to square -1
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<sphalerite> Ke: 5th block device is NVMe?
<Ke> yes
<Ke> well with mmcs it's actually 7
<Ke> again getting almost no cache hits on aarch64
<Ke> again getting almost no cache hits on aarch64
<Ke> whenever one wants to do something, cache hits from archive are nowhere to be seen
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<Ke> ok now weechat and routing run on honeycomb
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