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<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: it's your favorite feature!
<DigitalKiwi> A definition for option `networking.hostName' is not of type `string matching the pattern ^$|^[[:alnum:]]([[:alnum:]_-]{0,61}[[:alnum:]])?$'. Definition values:
<DigitalKiwi> - In `<unknown-file>': "aarch64.nixos.community"
<gchristensen> great!
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<samueldr> tmountain: are you sure you _need_ the binary blob TPL?
<samueldr> AFAIUI all RK3399 boards should be supported by u-boot's own TPL
<samueldr> (or SPL?)
<tmountain> samueldr: not 100%, but I have not been able to get an upstream u-boot build to successfully boot up until now.
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<samueldr> do you have a serial cable to help look at issues?
<tmountain> samueldr: I have it working
<tmountain> samueldr: the issue was the disk label...
<tmountain> samueldr: but I'm using a u-boot image I stole from Armbian
<samueldr> yes, I mean for a mainline u-boot
<tmountain> samueldr: ah.. no, but I can order one
<samueldr> you probably should for your toolchest, always useful
<samueldr> but that's probably not necessary :)
<tmountain> samueldr: I'd love to get everything working with strictly upstream.
<samueldr> tmountain: are you able to test a PR?
<tmountain> samueldr: should be able to. I am a developer.
<samueldr> just finishing up the commit to add ubootNanoPCT4 to Nixpkgs
<tmountain> samueldr: awesome, would love to test that
<samueldr> tmountain: @tmountain on github?
<tmountain> samueldr: yes.
<tmountain> samueldr: I'm signing off in just a few, but I can give it a shot tomorrow
<samueldr> I'll be pinging you on the PR
<tmountain> perfect, thank you!
<samueldr> (I saw you were adding the board to the nixos wiki)
<{^_^}> #109423 (by samueldr, 19 seconds ago, open): ubootNanoPCT4: Init at 2021.01
<samueldr> adding a board already supported by u-boot mainline is extremely trivial
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<colemickens> is it time to pull the pi configs into nixos-hardware?
<colemickens> I still want them without the rest of hte ./sd-image.nix stuff along with it
<colemickens> Or maybe just keep it in both. maybe it already is and I should've looked before thinking outloud
<samueldr> what do you mean?
<samueldr> colemickens: I'm confused by what you said
<samueldr> but yeah, we probably want "nixos on arm" in nixos hardware at some level
<samueldr> but be careful: adding the bootloader config (e.g. extlinux) is not a good idea!
<samueldr> so you're left with not much to add
<samueldr> what really is there to add to the config?
<colemickens> why is adding the bootloader config a bad idea?
<colemickens> that's the part I want, is the bits that drop the rpi config.txt and the right uboot bits, but I want my own partitioning and don't want the installer configs.
<samueldr> that's because we cannot assume which bootloader config the user uses!
<samueldr> just like you won't put grub in a thinkpad config
<samueldr> if they're using https://rpi4-uefi.dev/
<samueldr> they would probably want to use the hardware profile for the raspberry pi
<samueldr> and end-up in a bad situation
<samueldr> and now I see you're talking abount _image generation_
<samueldr> which is another topic!
<colemickens> hm I guess I have slightly different expectations
<colemickens> and no, I didn't mean image generation :)
<colemickens> you were right the first time
<samueldr> uh, ah, mounts setup, rather than partitioning
<samueldr> right?
<colemickens> yes, yes, my bad
<samueldr> no worries, partitioning can be overloaded that way too
<samueldr> (though maybe with lib.mkDefault it'd be fine?)
<samueldr> I don't really know how opinionated nixos hardware is and should be
<colemickens> hm I do feel like there's enough to "extract" and share, though I understand the point about nixos-hardware bits being less invasive compared to what we're talking about.
<colemickens> even just if they were composed differently in nixpkgs though, I could change my import line and not have to copy/paste. maybe I'm over optimizing for DRY
<colemickens> don't mind me, I feel like I'm babbling.
<samueldr> yeah, the images generation thing in Nixpkgs is really... single-minded
<samueldr> it's really meant for one task only
<samueldr> (btw, the raspberry pi 4 .nix expression should be deleted soon)
<samueldr> (since mainline allegedly works)
<samueldr> (so we're not really left with anything raspberry pi specific in nixpkgs)
<colemickens> the pi4 one will be deleted, but the general rpi thing is still needed to manage config.txt and their bootloader though
<colemickens> or am I brain-farting again
<samueldr> the firmware partition is assumed to be an opaque blob
<samueldr> like your bios on your computer
<samueldr> that's the basic assumption
<samueldr> since it's the basic assumptions on all u-boot supported boards
<samueldr> we want to, at some point, have a user story to manage u-boot installations
<samueldr> but only when it is thought about in a way that makes sense generally
<samueldr> I see the raspberry pi config.txt as an equivalent to fiddle-farting in your computer's bios menus
<samueldr> sure, it'd be better to have it handled by NixOS
<samueldr> but it's crossing one line for the time being
<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: well now at least i've moved on to missing modules it can't find now :/
<samueldr> and I really dislike the idea of further making a special place to one vendor in NixOS
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<colemickens> samueldr: have you thought about chaining bootloaders? I was starting to try to do something like that by adding a rpi4uefi builder that invoked another builder at the end to generate the systemd-boot stuff.
<colemickens> maybe that could work with what you describe. I could have firmware, and then a totally normal uefi /boot partition and normal aarch64 root
<colemickens> and I think u-boot could be used the same way based on what I understand
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<blueblockbox> Hi, I am trying to boot on rockpro64 but from time to time I get stuck on `Booting using the fdt blob at 0x1f00000`. I managed to successfully boot using https://github.com/Mic92/nixos-aarch64-images but then after I rebuild nixos it always hangs.
<blueblockbox> I have tried with both serial and HDMI with boot process hanging at the same time.
<blueblockbox> I am using latest stable build and uboot 2021.01. I don't really know how to debug this apart from trying different images.
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<gchristensen> wow, samueldr, apparently intel is having tsmc make their core i3's, and other silicon
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<ajs124> gchristensen: source? o.O
<gchristensen> toL
<gchristensen> ?
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<samueldr> interesting, since they reportedly had process issues with their latest gen for a while
<samueldr> (they, being intel, intel had issues)
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<samueldr> colemickens: I don't follow about the bootloaders chaining
<colemickens> samueldr: eh, I was hoping you'd ignored it.
<samueldr> hah
<colemickens> I was entirely too tired to be trying to converse last night, I'm sorry.
<samueldr> no worries
<samueldr> I like to explore ideas
<samueldr> I guess the main hangup here is: u-boot is not (only) a bootloader
<samueldr> its main purpose, first, is bios-like, bootloader is a nice thing tacked on at the end
<samueldr> I was idly thinking the other day, u-boot could overlay the mainline kernel filename it intrinsically knows about into the FDT
<samueldr> which in turn an EFI program could use to load the proper dtb file from a folder
<samueldr> so instead of having grub load your kernel, you'd have it load that intermediary loader; that loader would load the dtb file from the generation's folder, and in turn, "exec" into the kernel
<samueldr> I had thought of that scheme previously, but the main issue was "but how does grub [or another program] know about the mainline dtb filename??"
<samueldr> IMO the filename should be a property part of the file
<samueldr> so if you have socvendor/foobar-baz.dts, you have / { linux,dtbname = "socvendor/foobar-baz.dtb"; };
<samueldr> this way u-boot could also stop hardcoding weird codepaths for many platforms, instead relying on the (imported from mainline) dtb intrinsics
<samueldr> some, like pinephone variant detection, would probably still require things to be done
<samueldr> but that would become the exception I guess
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<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: i get an error about modules
<DigitalKiwi> modprobe: FATAL: Module pci_thunder_ecam not found in directory /nix/store/av96fjk7x7fz4qgm9vavml5488rjgzca-linux-5.4.89-modules/lib/modules/5.4.89
<DigitalKiwi> that's not the kernel i'm on either :/
<DigitalKiwi> which might be the cause of the error ? :D
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<LinuxHackerman> lol smart element, turning 7\x7 into 7×7
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