<samueldr> cptrbn: odd
<samueldr> cptrbn: was the serial session configured wrong somehow?
<cptrbn> Maybe, but I'm using screen and it's fine
<cptrbn> Literally just looking to add ssh now
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> forgot to ask if you were looking at hdmi earlier
<samueldr> I guess mainline u-boot is not configured to enable any of the LEDs
<samueldr> but IIRC u-boot should show up for all the boot process on hdmi
<samueldr> at least it did
<cptrbn> I did try plugging it in with HDMI, but I didn't see any output
<cptrbn> With no HDMI and LED, it seemed dead
<cptrbn> How did you get wifi on the board? There's no ethernet
<cptrbn> So can't install the nonfree wireless firmware
<samueldr> according to the wiki, last I did anything with the board is september 2018
<samueldr> good luck me remembering anything
<samueldr> wireless was added in by another user though
<samueldr> https://nixos.wiki/index.php?title=NixOS_on_ARM/Orange_Pi_Zero_Plus2_H5&diff=3437&oldid=2675
<samueldr> so I guess I didn't?
<cptrbn> Ah well spotted
<cptrbn> I guess I can build an image with that packed in
<cptrbn> Sounds like a job for tomorrow though
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<cptrbn> samueldr: Thanks for all your help!
<samueldr> n/p you're welcome
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<samueldr> ugh, I feel so deflated
<samueldr> it seems like asus-dumo (chrome tablet hardware) can't do gadget
<samueldr> I assume because of the CCD debug hardware
<samueldr> same kernel commit, another rk3399 platform, no issue
<samueldr> on that tablet, on the tablet it all goes well, but `device descriptor read/64, error -32` and related errors on the usb host side
<samueldr> which only starts once it's flipped into gadget mode!
<samueldr> so it does do something, but things are wrong :/
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<cirno-999> does calling stuff work yet on pp?
<samueldr> untested by myself
<samueldr> I think noneucat tested
<samueldr> (I don't have a phone plan with calling/sms)
<samueldr> but what I do know is that there is nothing out of the box that will set things up at the time being
<samueldr> (with mobile nixos)
<noneucat> yes calling works! you do need to set up the audio routing though
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<samueldr> things *might* change along the way with the liberated modem firmware
<samueldr> about audio routing
<samueldr> that development is actually quite exciting
<samueldr> more and more I'm thinking Mobile NixOS could (optionally) manage the modem firmware os build too
<samueldr> allowing users to trivially add services to the modem CPU
* samueldr thinks
<samueldr> hm no, since wifi is not connected to the modem, my idea won't really help
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<cirno-999> does it only communicate over wifi? 😂
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<cirno-999> good luck, i was hoping for a nixos mobile community edition
<cirno-999> but it seems like they stopped those
<cirno-999> ;p
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<cirno-999> (mobian is las)
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<cirno-999> t.
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<samueldr> I never was contacted about any of it
<samueldr> really what I would have hoped is to, instead, make the backs only, instead of "whole" editions
<samueldr> since *anyway* it's interchangeable
<cirno-999> i've got a laser engraver, hmu ;D
<cirno-999> the idea of editions is very weird, but i think it works
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<cirno-999> pine does a lot of weird stuff (that in my personal opinion work)
<samueldr> yeah, it's nice recognition
<cirno-999> and i think it whipped plasma mobile to a higher quality in a short time
<samueldr> but that also is annoying for smaller players
<cirno-999> mm, true.
<samueldr> some people didn't buy a pinephone yet _because_ they were hoping for an edition I'm sure
<samueldr> additionally, the cost of the back could be inflated for the donation amount to the respective project
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<samueldr> good way to get stuff to donate to more than one project
<cirno-999> not a lot of people are used to donating to foss projects though
<samueldr> yep
<samueldr> that's why the back cover to help out a project would have been a neat idea
<samueldr> IIRC "editions" of phones ended up with a portion donated to communities, no?
<samueldr> (I'm not at all sure about that)
<cirno-999> 10$
<samueldr> yeah, no way to donate to your preferred effort
<samueldr> if e.g. you liked Danct12's archlinux port rather than postmarketOS
<samueldr> you were kind of "forced" to provide to a project if you wanted a pinephone
<samueldr> (not that it's really bad though)
<samueldr> (but unhelpful for some of the smaller players)
<cirno-999> maybe pine wanted to kickstart the scene with donating to some projects they saw potential in or wanted to be supported on their phone
<cirno-999> this is the last CE, anyway
<samueldr> oh, sure
<samueldr> it's not with bad intentions it was done
<samueldr> but in the end it was more of a popularity contest with predetermined outcomes
<samueldr> could have been "pick a distro" at the order form, which would have given you the appropriate phone back
<cirno-999> damn, that would be cool
<samueldr> so all phone sales *still* end up producing donations
<samueldr> but no "forced" donations
<samueldr> (again, no ill intent I'm sure)
<cirno-999> but kinda still a popularity contest :>
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<samueldr> yes, but less fixed outcomes :)
<cirno-999> if you're doing good as a distro, you're more likely to be picked
<cirno-999> snowball effect
<samueldr> yep
<samueldr> I mean, it probably would have increased the share of postmarketOS in the end
<samueldr> while distributing _some_ for the less known distros
<cirno-999> from what i gather on the irc, a huge chunk of people use Arch by danct
<cirno-999> even tho it never had a CE
<cirno-999> maybe because... its arch :P
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<samueldr> yeah
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<samueldr> and I'm not making myself any illusions, maybe up to 10 max I think for Mobile NixOS, depending on the process it might not even cover the costs?
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<cirno-999> cost of what?
<samueldr> producing an alternate set of back covers
<cirno-999> ah
<samueldr> e.g. screen printing requires setup
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<samueldr> laser engraving sure is cool, but doesn't scale
<samueldr> things like that :)
<cirno-999> it does if you have 10 orders xD
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<cirno-999> but i admit it doesnt look as good as screen printing
<samueldr> yeah
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<archseer> samueldr: The composeConfig changes look good, but I'd maybe change lib.mobile-nixos to mobile-nixos.lib. Then I can just export that lib in the flake and pass it into the modules via `specialArgs = { inherit mobile-nixos }`
<samueldr> ah, there you are!
<samueldr> I had missed a matrixocalypse it seems
<samueldr> I tried pinging you but you were gone
<archseer> (which is something that already happens so I have access to mobile-nixos in my configs)
<samueldr> archseer: that's how `lib` works in NixOS
<samueldr> well, *that* lib
<archseer> oh I fixed my username based on Linux Hackerman 's suggestion
<samueldr> nah, that wasn't it, matrix had a hiccup too
<samueldr> y'all just came back ~8 minutes ago, and were gone for ~an hour
<archseer> yeah so if you flip lib.mobile-nixos -> mobile-nixos.lib, I'd be able to do this: https://gist.github.com/archseer/fda9eb9fa5db1f83a60b131c688c045e#file-flake-nix-L14
<archseer> if you keep it as lib.mobile-nixos I'd need to modify nixpkgs.lib somehow before calling nixosSystem/eval-config
<archseer> nixpkgs re-exports it's lib in a similar way: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/flake.nix#L12
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<samueldr> I think I see what's needed now
<samueldr> I tried making it absolutely not rely on args
<samueldr> oh right, I had forgotten you had a sample to test against
<archseer> I've been still messing with kernel configs
<archseer> The postmarketOS one boots but still no dock
<archseer> I managed to dump the journal, lsmod and kernel config from the KDE version which also fails to boot so I'm slowly diffing the two
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<archseer> based on the journal, the driver for the dock seems to be anx7688. I just noticed it's off in the mobile-nixos config: https://github.com/NixOS/mobile-nixos/blob/9fbcf888a76e28118cca494ca9de25ec47034963/devices/pine64-pinephone/kernel/config.aarch64#L5103
<archseer> I'll try a rebuild with that turned on
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<samueldr> I seem to recall reading something about postmarketOS and dock on their twitter
<samueldr> there's a file to delete to fix
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> not that kind of dock
<samueldr> sorry
<samueldr> I was thinking about software dock
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<samueldr> archseer: I feel like I'm only getting deeper into something that won't help anyway
<samueldr> now part of lib
<samueldr> as specialArgs
<samueldr> but that won't help the flake export that
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<samueldr> and it needs the `modules` and `baseModules` at some point to be able to properly compose the config
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<samueldr> I feel shoving this back into specialArgs is going the wrong way
<archseer> I think that looks good
<archseer> I'll extract it into a lib.nix so I can import it in the flake
<samueldr> you can't have that `mobile-nixos` without calling `evalConfig`
<archseer> Ah I see... Hmm
<samueldr> I fear the composition won't work that way
<samueldr> that's why I was asking you to see if you had an idea about why moving those verbatim into the lib failed: https://github.com/NixOS/mobile-nixos/blob/e93f1d0276ac48a810540090ab23e315e0b017d3/lib/release-tools.nix#L5-L16
<archseer> Maybe I should just use the specialized eval for just that config
<samueldr> I don't know :)
<samueldr> in fact just before sending this I remembered that I had to try using `lib/configuration.nix`
<archseer> lib.nixosSystem is just a wrapper around eval-config https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/flake.nix#L28
<samueldr> I guess that to fix it for that documented entry point, the same solution would fix flakes
<archseer> So I could just call mobile-nixos.lib.mkDevice instead or something like that
<samueldr> "just"
<samueldr> wow that's a lot of baked stuff in the flake
<archseer> Maybe colemickens has a better idea
<archseer> My initial experiments were based on some old branches he had
<samueldr> I think the problem isn't even really a flake problem
<samueldr> I think the issue is the "disintegration" bit
<samueldr> well, I kind of know it is, because that's where it fails
<samueldr> but it's in a way I don't get
<samueldr> I'll be looking at that tomorrow
<samueldr> I intuit it's an ordering thing
<samueldr> and I think it's probably unsolveable
<samueldr> and since there's no way to force override an option definition, it puts integration with NixOS between a rock and a hard place
<samueldr> at least, without specialized eval
<samueldr> so it may be that the solution stays specialized eval
<samueldr> if it is, it'll be clearly exposed
<archseer> I see, that's how you're overriding nixos' boot/stage-0
<samueldr> not even
<samueldr> not needed
<samueldr> this `apply` use heavily breaks my use case
<samueldr> maybe I could first look at making that `apply` call happy neough
<samueldr> enough*
<samueldr> I'm basically re-using the whole option set, but with one option redefined
<samueldr> and only to redefine that apply
<archseer> with the dual role config the device can run as either a host (for the dock) or a gadget
<samueldr> oh yes
<samueldr> though in theory
<samueldr> it was already set to HOST
<samueldr> so it shouldn't have been an issue
<samueldr> DWC3 is used in basically everything
<archseer> yeah, I've changed it to match megi's/KDE's config
<samueldr> ah
<archseer> (megi disables dwc though)
<samueldr> by HOST should be good
<samueldr> but DUAL_ROLE better
<samueldr> since that actually allows gadget stuff to work
<archseer> it would have likely worked without it, the type-c config was necessary though
<samueldr> *once something I'm preparing lands
<samueldr> a bit annoyed at how my unit has faulty usb everything
<archseer> you got an earlier kit, right?
<samueldr> yes, but it's not "that" kind of broken
<samueldr> it's really not working
<samueldr> only basic power does
<samueldr> well, not earlier
<samueldr> it's a braveheart pure and simple
<samueldr> I know it has some flaws
<samueldr> but even accounting for those, it just never worked for more than basic 5V power in
<archseer> you need to fix two pins apparently
<archseer> they fixed it in 1.2a/1.2b I think
<samueldr> that's if I wanted to use type-c stuff etc
<samueldr> basic usb should still be working
<samueldr> though
<samueldr> information is REALLY HARD to get b
<samueldr> by*
<samueldr> because everyone just parrots the same things
<samueldr> and anyway I can't make that mod
<archseer> yeah it's all applicable to different versions and there's no good central source
<archseer> even megi's website is all over the place, not everything is accessible without a direct link/google
<samueldr> I think everything on megi's site ends up being linked from the home page
<samueldr> but you kinda have to know where to go
<samueldr> though yeah, OTG peripheral should be working
<samueldr> and it's not
<samueldr> tested using the well-known working "jumpdrive" image
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<Ke> now desktop at honeycomb
<Ke> this seems awfully slow now
<Ke> wonder what's up
<Ke> 4K desktop on power9 with rx550 was not really an issue
<Ke> wonder if I am missing gpu accel
<clever> Ericson2314: ive run into an issue with pkgsCross.arm-embedded, things like "lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.2.1/thumb/nofp/crtbegin.o" are missing, so it fails on thumb-only boards
<Ericson2314> clever: did you see the PR merged this mornining for armhf-embedded?
<Ericson2314> wonder if something similar is needed for arm sf?
<clever> havent seen it yet
<Ericson2314> clever: also, do you know the darwin bootstrap well?
<Ericson2314> I'll get link
<clever> nope, havent looked at the darwin stdenv
<clever> but its easy enough to quickly check if a gcc is thumb-capable
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/rpi/pico/pico-examples]$ ls /nix/store/qzfqc98vmfrqb441g7q0r7pw6h72x4pl-arm-none-eabi-stage-final-gcc-debug-9.3.0/lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.0/
<clever> crtbegin.o crtend.o crtfastmath.o crti.o crtn.o include include-fixed libgcc.a libgcov.a plugin
<clever> the ubuntu gcc has a thumb sub-dir here, with many crtbegin.o's, while the nixpkgs gcc only has a single (arm32) crtbegin.o
<Ericson2314> this is the PR that was merged recently
<Ericson2314> OK no worries on the darwin stuff, but I started https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/110914 to begin to unify the darwin and llvm cross stuf
<clever> in my case, everything builds perfectly "fine", but its silently putting arm32 code into a thumb-only binary
<{^_^}> #110914 (by Ericson2314, 2 days ago, open): WIP: treewide: Improve pure darwin cross
<clever> and the cpu cant run arm32, so it fails on boot
<Ericson2314> it has buggged me from the beginning that the native bootstrapps don't take adantage of the nice run time vs build time way we do the cross bootstrapps
<Ericson2314> and I finally set about fixing itt
<Ericson2314> but the darwin llvm stuff is very weird
<Ericson2314> building libc++abi before compiler-rt
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<clever> Ericson2314: https://github.com/raspberrypi/pico-sdk/issues/50 the issue about detecting the failure, and makign it more fatal
<{^_^}> raspberrypi/pico-sdk#50 (by cleverca22, 1 minute ago, open): enforce that gcc toolchain only used thumb code
<Ericson2314> cool, will watch that one, clever
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<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/rpi/pico/pico-examples]$ nix-shell --option min-free 0 -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/master.tar.gz
<clever> Ericson2314: let me see what master does...
<clever> [nix-shell:~/apps/rpi/pico/pico-examples]$ ls /nix/store/kw4x6pgig76x03wi3a6zc74cdcpxcx22-arm-none-eabi-stage-final-gcc-debug-10.2.0/lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/10.2.0/
<clever> crtbegin.o crtend.o crtfastmath.o crti.o crtn.o include include-fixed libgcc.a libgcov.a plugin
<clever> Ericson2314: hmmm, pkgsCross.arm-embedded.stdenv.cc on master still lacks a thumb dir
<Ericson2314> clever: yeah i wouldn't expect non-hard float to be different i guess
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<elvishjerricco> colemickens: You said you were able to cross compile nixos the other day, right?
<colemickens> I did! I had to pull the perl revert pull request but I was able to get a "toplevel" built for armv6. I'm actually right now trying to see if I can build a full proper raspi0 sd card image.
<clever> ive also done it in the past, but something updated in nixpkgs to break it
<clever> i havent re-checked in a while
<elvishjerricco> colemickens: Cool. Any chance you could share how that's done? I've also done it in the past but it's been quite a while.
<clever> last time it worked, there was a surprising number of x86 bash's in #!'s, i'm surprised that it even booted
<clever> elvishjerricco: this was the magic line for me: https://github.com/librerpi/rpi-open-firmware/blob/master/nixos.nix#L36
<clever> then nixops just magically cross-compiles as it deploys
<elvishjerricco> Sure, but I thought there were extra steps involved since some nixpkgs breakages
<elvishjerricco> `nix build -f ./nixos --arg configuration '{nixpkgs.crossSystem.system="aarch64-linux";}' vm`
<elvishjerricco> Well, this at least *evaluates*, and gets a ton of stuff from the cache. Let's see what fails to build...
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<DigitalKiwi> [kiwi@aarch64:~]$ nix-env --version
<DigitalKiwi> nix-env (Nix) 2.4pre20201205_a5d85d0
<DigitalKiwi> [kiwi@aarch64:~]$ nixos-version
<DigitalKiwi> 21.03pre-git (Okapi)
<DigitalKiwi> :D
<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: did it work fine?