<nh2> clever: also with <stable> it doesn't work
<clever> and you need to nix-channel --update any time you make such changes
<clever> look in "ls -l /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels"
<nh2> clever: yes, did that
<nh2> (the --update)
<nh2> but nox shows this, maybe it gives a hint:
<nh2> 1 TeXmacs-1.99.2 (nixpkgs.texmacs)
<nh2> WYSIWYW editing platform with special features for scientists
<nh2> 2 TeXmacs-1.99.2 (stable.texmacs)
<nh2> WYSIWYW editing platform with special features for scientists
<sphalerite> ah, got it, I needed to zpool import
<nh2> so that seems to see nixpkgs.texmacs and stable.texmacs
<clever> nh2: yeah, nox will look in all channels
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<nh2> clever: where's the user equivalent (nix on ubuntu) of the dir you mentioned for `ls- l`??
<clever> lrwxrwxrwx 1 clever users 46 Mar 7 2016 channels -> /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/clever/channels
<clever> lrwxrwxrwx 1 clever users 44 Oct 11 2015 channels_root -> /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels
<clever> nh2: these are in ~/.nix-defexpr
<clever> but only the root one is in $NIX_PATH
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<nh2> clever: so ~/.nix-defexpr/channels contains both `nixpkgs` and `stable`, and they both have identical layout
<clever> nh2: where does that symlink point?
<sphalerite> What's the difference between boot.initrd.supportedFilesystems and boot.supportedFilesystems? Do I need to specify zfs in the former for booting from a zfs root filesystem to work?
<nh2> clever:
<nh2> nixpkgs -> /nix/store/kx71096h5r80pwyh6ji5skqa9cr5ziyz-nixpkgs-17.09pre106045.7369fd0b51/nixpkgs/
<nh2> stable -> /nix/store/1rkva1yxal38zhmjz83mmrv43sygdjaz-stable-17.03.1095.f53fb18925/stable/
<clever> sphalerite: you dont need to specify zfs in either
<clever> sphalerite: if you set fileSystems."/".fsType to zfs, nixos will figure things out for you
<sphalerite> ah ok
<clever> sphalerite: as for the difference, boot.initrd.supportedFilesystems includes the tools in the initrd so it can mount root, and boot.supportedFilesystems just installs them system wide after root is mounted
<clever> nh2: the channels link itself, take the / off the end
<sphalerite> Is there a way to get a shell in the initrd? I haven't managed to boot from the new setup yet and I can't really tell why
<sphalerite> Oh hey, I XYed again
<clever> sphalerite: add boot.shell_on_fail to the kernel cmdline
<clever> either using configuration.nix or editing the config in grub with e
<clever> debug1 may also be of use, depending on your situation
<nh2> clever: ah, that one you mean: `/home/niklas/.nix-defexpr/channels -> /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/niklas/channels/`
<clever> nh2: it sounds like both root and niklas have channels called stable and nixpkgs, which will probably go out of sync
<nh2> clever: I don't think my root has any nix things
<clever> 2017-05-03 20:58:36 < clever> nh2: what does "sudo nix-channel --list" say?
<clever> 2017-05-03 20:59:33 < nh2> nixpkgs https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable
<nh2> clever: I think the problem is that in my shell, NIX_PATH is set to
<nh2> nixpkgs=/home/niklas/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs:nixpkgs=/home/niklas/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs
<clever> nh2: you said otherwise 10 minutes ago
<clever> oh, is this on nixos, or another distro?
<nh2> clever: ah sorry, I ran that as the normal user, as my root doesn't even have the nix-channel command
<nh2> clever: on Ubuntu
<clever> ah, that has different defaults
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# nix-instantiate --find-file nixpkgs
<clever> nh2: this command should help with debug, it will tell you what <nixpkgs> will resolve to
<sphalerite> Ooh, it seems the issue is that I got the swap and the actual filesystem switched around >_>
<sphalerite> thanks clever, the shell helped
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<clever> sphalerite: nixos-generate-config should have handled that for you
<nh2> clever: that outputs `/home/niklas/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs`
<clever> sphalerite: it will detect everything that is mounted, and swapon'd, and put them all into the hardware-configuration.nix
<sphalerite> clever: nope, it didn't detect the luks stuff
<clever> sphalerite: ah, yeah, luks is one thing it cant handle
<nh2> clever: the .profile nix hook seems to set up only `nixpkgs=` in NIX_PATH: https://github.com/jc00ke/fish-config/blob/master/nix.fish#L19
<nh2> (linking the script for fish because google didn't find one for .profile)
<simpson> clever: Unrelated: Do you happen to have any tips on OpenWRT buildroots? You seem apt to know.
<clever> nh2: i would just manualy set $NIX_PATH to something that suits your needs in .profile or .fishrc
<clever> simpson: havent used buildroot, all of my recent arm images are nix based
<simpson> clever: This is an old MIPS router that I'm trying to rehabilitate. The OpenWRT folks have "helpfully" disabled anything without a maintainer, including the packages which I need.
<nh2> clever: `export NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=/home/niklas/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs:stable=/home/niklas/.nix-defexpr/channels/stable` makes it work
<nh2> clever: weird though that channels don't seem to be supported on non-NixOS
<nh2> I mean that their existence by itself doesn't do anything
<clever> i think its just tested less, and problems sometimes crop up and go un-noticed, opening a ticket may help get things fixed
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<sphalerite> so... Why can't nixos-generate-config detect luks stuff?
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<clever> sphalerite: probably just hasnt had code added to check it
<sphalerite> It booted :D
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<sphalerite> Maybe I'll take a shot at fixing that :)
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<noexcept_> question about the definition of fix' in trivial.nix, why is it "fix' = f: let x = f x // { __unfix__ = f; }; in x;" rather than "fix' = f: let x = f x; in x // { __unfix__ = f; };" or "fix' = f: (fix f) // { __unfix__ = f };"?
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<nh2> hmm no, that's not it, switching to `-E '(import <stable> {}).texmacs.overrideDerivation ...')` didn't help it
<clever> nh2: you can also just throw absolute paths in instead of using <stable>
<nh2> clever: ah, I think it's something completely different:
<nh2> it's simply that the thing inside $() fails, and that invokes the equivalent of `nix-env -i "\n"`
<nh2> try `touch emptyfile; nix-env -i $(cat emptyfile)`, it will try to install the world
<clever> lol
<nh2> interestingly `nix-env -i ""` doesn't try to install the world
<nh2> next bug to file ...
<gchristensen> anyone want to go through the awful, painful process of packaging Kaldi?
<sphalerite> Ooooh, that's that speech-recognition thing isn't it
<sphalerite> I wanted to run that at some point. So maybe one day I will.
<sphalerite> But today is not that day :p
<sphalerite> Oh crap it's 1:30am
<sphalerite> clever, taktoa, thanks for the help with zfs
<sphalerite> gchristensen: thanks for the help with zfs and the excellent write-up
<gchristensen> you're welcome
<sphalerite> And good night!
<gchristensen> good night indeed ):
<gchristensen> :)
<gchristensen> kaldi takes like 8hrs to compile
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<clever> ouch
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<gchristensen> ouch is right
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<clever> gchristensen: what language is it?
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<gchristensen> probably fortran
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<clever> gchristensen: i'm seeing a lot of c++ in the github
<gchristensen> also sounds right
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<vaibhavsagar_> I can't build nginx on 17.03 because patching the source fails
<vaibhavsagar_> what should I do?
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<cheshircat> is there a way to view associated types in ghci? Like, in persist, can I figure out what types are Unique val for val implementing PersistEntity
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<vaibhavsagar_> cheshircat: sounds like a question for #haskell
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<cheshircat> oh, whoops
<cheshircat> sorry
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<vaibhavsagar_> no worries at all, I'd like to know this too :)
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<rcschm> hi i am trying to customize installing tmux by overriding the one in the pkgs with postInstall override. but i am getting errors when i tried writeScriptBin.
<rcschm> postInstall = pkgs.writeScriptBin "tmux" ''
<rcschm> #!/bin/sh
<rcschm> exec $out/tmux/bin/tmux
<rcschm> '';
<rcschm> tmux: Is a directory
<rcschm> how do we reference the program bin and how to use writeScriptBin in this case? thanks for any pointer or any help.
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<hodapp> le sigh. my pull request for GDAL is failing the Travis build... because GDAL is a giant C++ hairball that takes forever to build
<hodapp> not sure what to do about that
<hodapp> oh, wait, actually, "The log length has exceeded the limit of 4 MB (this usually means that the test suite is raising the same exception over and over)."
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<zgotsch> What's the preferred way to run commands/start daemons on login in nixOS?
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<clever> zgotsch: ssh login, x11 login, all logins once/every, on bootup?
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<samueldr> how can I force a "touch" of the efi vars with nixos?
<samueldr> I have lost the contents of the efi vars on the computer... don't ask
<samueldr> no, not rm -rf, just a transient failure and that particular device seems to have reset the efivars
<samueldr> using both `boot.loader.efi.canTouchEfiVariables` and `boot.loader.grub.efiSupport` to true
<samueldr> re-running nixos-rebuild switch does not seem to update the boot options, as observed with an empty efibootmgr output
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<clever> samueldr: deleting /boot/grub/state might trigger the right action
<clever> samueldr: nixos uses /boot/grub/state to keep track of which grub is in /boot, and know when it has to re-do grub-install for you
<samueldr> good to know :)
<samueldr> made a manual efibootmgr invocation in the meantime
<samueldr> ah, I see, grub's efi installation routine does not use efibootmgr
<samueldr> (don't know why I assumed so)
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<zgotsch> clever: just saw your response to earlier -- I'm interested in running things on X11 login and on boot. Since I asked I've been trying to read about systemd units in the nix conf
<samueldr> exporting NIXOS_INSTALL_BOOTLOADER does work too
<samueldr> or reading the manual might have pointed towards --install-bootloader, which exports NIXOS_INSTALL_BOOTLOADER
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<lukego> any tips on debugging why NIX_BUILD_HOOK seems to be ignored? I'm trying to run remote builds on an OSX machine
<clever> lukego: are you using nix-daemon?
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<sphalerite> rcschm: pkgs.writeScriptBin creates a derivation. The postInstall thing should be a string
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<sphalerite> sphalerite: either use wrapProgram in the postInstall on an override, or (better, because it doesn't require recompiling tmux) create a wrapper in a separate expression. e.g. write a file called tmux.nix with the contents with import <nixpkgs> {}; writeScriptBin "tmux" {} "#!${stdenv.shell}\nexec ${tmux}/bin/tmux"
<sphalerite> In the latter case, then just install that expression (nix-env -i -f tmux.nix)
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<lukego> clever: Sorry to fall off the 'net... I don't think that I am running the nix-daemon. I installed nix using the curl command
<lukego> NIX_BUILD_HOOK seems to be ignored, though I think it was being called in tests earlier today, not sure what might have changed. Here is a gist summarizing what I am doing: https://gist.github.com/lukego/d269542215879b078ab3d7b541667b45
<lukego> I'm on a Darwin host trying to run a derivation that needs x86_64-linux, and I have defined a suitable build slave. but it doesn't seem to be being consulted
<MichaelRaskin> echo $NIX_REMOTE
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe NIX_REMOTE=
<MichaelRaskin> (and you are running the command as root, right?)
<LnL> lukego: remote builds fail in very subtle ways, without any warnings/errors
<lukego> MichaelRaskin: I'm not running it as root and I don't understand why I need to set NIX_REMOTE?
<clever> if you run it without root and without NIX_REMOTE, then your current user must have write to /nix/store/
<clever> which is the default for installs on odx
<lukego> MichaelRaskin: I am trying to follow these directions: http://nixos.org/nix/manual/#chap-distributed-builds
<lukego> LnL: How to troubleshoot? Just hack the perl script with print statements?
<lukego> LnL: Or the C++ code to see why the script isn't being called, if that is the issue?
<clever> lukego: nix already has some verbose stuff in it, just add -vvv i think
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<lukego> clever: Running 'nix-build -vvv' I don't see any reference to the build hook being invoked
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<lukego> clever: No printouts for -vvv there :-|
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<LnL> lukego: there was an issue on one of my projects where I listed some of the issues I've ran into before
<lukego> I have the distinct feeling that the hook script is not being called at all, but I am not really sure.
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<clever> lukego: dtrace or whatever darwin calls it may help
<lukego> clever: Could be that using 'meta = { platforms = "x86_64-linux"; };' will not work on OSX even if I have a suitable build slave available?
<clever> lukego: it should find a build slave automaticaly
<lukego> clever: I used dtruss, which seems to be Darwin for strace, and I don't see any trace of what I am interested in, but can't discount user error e.g. that I am not following forked children or something properly.
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<lukego> hm, I have not setup a signing key, and I don't know if I am running the daemon or not.
<lukego> I am actually trying to setup a generic script that anybody could run to execute nix builds on some public servers. So I want it to work with a nix installed in the usual way and without any special steps or dependencies on my local machine setup.
<LnL> unless you are using my project and enabled it explicitly, probably not
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<LnL> it needs a service which the nixos.org installer doesn't provide
<clever> lukego: if you make it ssh into root or a trusted user (in nix.conf), then it doesnt need signing
<lukego> I feel like my problem must be something trivial, like a typo in an environment variable name, but I just don't see it.
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<lukego> Or maybe runCommand is somehow incompatible with remote builds? (has a prefer local thingy in there somewhere? but I have also tested stdenv.mkDerivation)
<LnL> no, there's preferLocalBuild but it's more of a suggestion
<lukego> I'm also wondering whether 'requiredSystemFeatures' is being respected in runCommand. Seems like I can specify any feature and it happily builds locally.
<lukego> ... but meta = { platforms = [ ... ]; } does get respceed
<LnL> ah, does it have a reauiredSystemFeatures? that won't work unless you added the feature in the remote machines config
<lukego> I've tried both with and without the requiredSystemFeatures, and I do have it defined in the remote machines config
<lukego> However, I am pretty sure nix is simply not calling the build hook at all, and I have no idea why.
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<lukego> Is there a stupid typo somewhere in my command? https://gist.github.com/lukego/d269542215879b078ab3d7b541667b45
<LnL> lukego: the ~ might not work, try with $HOME
<manveru> is there some way to see what the gc root for a specific store path is?
<lukego> LnL: Same result.
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<LnL> and I think you can add more -v's to see more debugging info
<LnL> also what version of nix are you using?
<lukego> LnL: Checking that now...
<manveru> for some reason i have 21 versions of libreoffice now...
<manveru> and running GC has no effect, even though i only have like 4 generations
<LnL> manveru: nix-store -q --referrers-closure IIRC
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<manveru> hmm
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<LnL> you might still have to corelate that with nix-sore --gc --print-roots
<lukego> LnL: at some point this morning I did 'nix-env -i nix' to try to get a "sensible" version of nix. Could be that this was when the build hook stopped running. I'm now trying to run all the versions I have in /nix/store
<manveru> LnL: thanks
<lukego> LnL: I have 1.11.5, 1.11.6, and 1.11.9 in the store and earlier today I did at least see the perl script running with _one_ of those versions
<lukego> Browsing 'git log' on nix repo, seems like there is recent activity around remote builds
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<lukego> Like being able to write 'nix-build --option builders "root@myserver x86_64-linux"'
<lukego> ahem and "Remove NIX_BUILD_HOOK"
<lukego> So it seems like the whole remote build mechanism has been rewritten and I just wasn't aware of that
<LnL> lukego: yeah but that's 1.12.x
<LnL> was wondering if you maybe installed nixUnstable
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<lukego> Interesting. So if there is a new mechanism coming then I definitely want to use that.
<LnL> yeah, but it's not in stable yet
<manveru> "113604 store paths deleted, 105025.41 MiB freed" :D
<manveru> i feel better now
<lukego> LnL: do you know if it is working? I'm happy to use unstable if it is... stable :)
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<lukego> Otherwise I can come back to this whole topic later
<LnL> no idea, I've not played with it. just know that it was changed/removed there
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<lukego> OK. Thanks for the info. I will stop wasting my time fighting with NIX_BUILD_HOOK and probably wait for the 1.12 release.
<lukego> (Looks like the nix release cadence is only a few weeks between releases usually? nice)
<LnL> the build hook should work on v1.11, this is what I do in nix-darwin https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin/blob/master/modules/nix/default.nix#L344-L346
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<lukego> LnL: I'm building something for the future here, so I don't want to invest energy in the mechanism that is already obsoleted
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<niksnut> all green for the first time in ages: http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nix/master \o/
<LnL> you could take a look at my project if you're feeling adventurous, it provides the same options as nixos for this
<ikwildrpepper> domenkozar: sorry, got side-tracked on the datadog thing, starting to work on it now
<domenkozar> \o/
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<domenkozar> niksnut: nice
<LnL> niksnut: nice! Do you have an estimate on when we might get a 1.12 release?
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<lukego> LnL: I will check out your project, thanks for the link
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<lukego> LnL: Overall my project is more like styx i.e. it's using nix under the hood and not necessarily running on darwin.
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<domenkozar> niksnut: do we need more people testing 1.12? we could call for testing help
<bennofs> Does anyone else get error: assertion failed at /nix/store/8dipap0m7v3fxysyhqyinc4z26gvyxl9-nixpkgs-17.09pre106045.7369fd0b51/nixpkgs/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix:6348:19
<bennofs> when building anything from nixpkgs
<bennofs> alright, my error
<bennofs> Interesting puzzle: why does nix-build '<nixpkgs>' gcc give that error?
<bennofs> (note the missing -A)
<domenkozar> been there done that :)
<bennofs> wth does that command do?
<bennofs> ah, it just ignores the extra argument
<domenkozar> build all packages
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<sphalerite> Is there a setting for setting X resource defaults?
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<bennofs> sphalerite: i believe ~/.Xdefaults gets loaded by nixos by default
<sphalerite> I was hoping for a system-wide one that gets applied in the display manager as well as user sessions
<bennofs> sphalerite: I don't think there is anything that gets applied in the DM?
<sphalerite> well it's running in X too, so there should be a way to set the resourcecs :/
<sphalerite> I guess I could just use an xrdb call in one of the scripts
<sphalerite> Yeah, except I want the settings to apply to all users including lightdm
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: do you use firefox or other gtk applications at all? I've put the ScreenSize setting for Xorg but GTK applications still have tiny text.
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<sphalerite> bennofs: thanks for the pointer, that's helpful — I see that it actually loads a generated resources file
<sphalerite> which just happens to include the exact setting I'm looking for via fonts.fontconfig.dpi :)
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<sphalerite> it would be nice to be able to add custom resource definitions to it via a nixos setting though. I might have a look at submitting a patch for that
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<sphalerite> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 500
<sphalerite> That's a new one... Good job, cloudflare
<bennofs> sphalerite: cloudflare returns 500 on various occasions ... never ever interface with cloudflare without retries :)
<sphalerite> I can access it with my browser :/
<sphalerite> but can reproduce it with curl
<bennofs> sphalerite: it may have just decided that you do too many concurrent requests and blocked you. at least I got that quite often while building nix-index, and I assumed that this was the cause (I could never reproduce it in the terminal)
<sphalerite> but surely then it would block all requests, not just requests to that specific URL (others work)
<sphalerite> and use HTTP 420, not HTTP 500?
<bennofs> sphalerite: tell me if you find out!
<bennofs> sphalerite: I'd be very interested
<bennofs> sphalerite: also, try using curl with a different user agent
<sphalerite> Can you curl that URL?
<bennofs> sphalerite: yes
<sphalerite> oh wait now it works for me too :|
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<bennofs> sphalerite: but since cloudflare has many servers, I'm probably hitting another one
<sphalerite> of course I just tried curling it without redirecting anywhere. So my terminal is now screwed
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<jluttine> is there any good free font package alternative to corefonts? without it some pdfs render very badly (they seem to want verdana and helvetica)
<jluttine> or perhaps it's some other issue with my fonts.. i mean, without corefonts, kerning is really bad in those pdfs. letters may move so much that word spaces are at wrong places
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<avn_> jluttine: nixos have working corefonts btw
<jluttine> avn_: couldn't find any free ones
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<sphalerite> jluttine: there doesn't seem to be a full set, but I searched for microsoft and compatible using nox and got https://github.com/derat/xsettingsd
<sphalerite> oops
<sphalerite> no
<sphalerite> http://ix.io/sFo
<sphalerite> That's not very helpful though, is it :/
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<gchristensen> niksnut: do you know how to make all /wiki/* pages go to the same HTML file, and where should that HTML file live? I was thinking about putting it in nixos-homepage, but I'm not sure.
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<gchristensen> clever: eu
<gchristensen> clever: I finally got my router controlled by nixops... ):
<gchristensen> :)
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<taeradan> hi
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<taeradan> is there a FAQ or a guide somewhere to the "infinite recursion" error that we can get sometimes without understanding why ?
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<taeradan> most of the times I end up trying random changes in my .nix files, but when it works at the end, I can almost never tell exactly what have caused the error
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<domenkozar> taeradan: there is no general fix to looping your programs :)
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<taeradan> when it happens, I don't have the feeling that there is any loop, or it is hard to find. Something that works in one file seem to don't work in another file, it's confusing
<taeradan> and the error message is really not helping
<taeradan> even with the whole trace
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<taeradan> what I'm trying to do is using networking.hostName defined in configuration.nix to trigger some configuration generation using a dictionnary of my machines with configuration flags
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<taeradan> it sometimes works well, and sometimes when trying to define and use a new flag with mkIf I get an infinite recursion error with references to netorking.hostName
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<gchristensen> taeradan: I think we'd need to see an example to explain it
<gchristensen> which we'd be happy to look at and help with
<taeradan> the repo is becoming complex, I'm not sure if I can extract the part that fails
<gchristensen> hm
<gchristensen> that is tricky. what is hostName set to?
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<taeradan> and there is a combination of a public part with all the dfinitions and config generation, and a private part with the actual machines dictionnary
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<niksnut> gchristensen: probably something like Redirect /wiki https://nixos.org/...
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<niksnut> gchristensen: so that mlock +n broke github notification to #nixos
<gchristensen> dang
<niksnut> do you know if there is a way to allow github access?
<gchristensen> looking
<gchristensen> niksnut: according to the hook we can either change it back to `-n` or we can have github join the channel, send a message, and leave
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<gchristensen> that second option is "Message without join" on the github service integration page
<niksnut> thanks, I'll check
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v9zZK
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b7ed6ef Eelco Dolstra: man-pages: 4.09 -> 4.11
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<niksnut> yay
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<gchristensen> nice, thank you for noticing & fixing niksnut :)
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<niksnut> well armijn was bugging me about it :-)
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<gchristensen> !m armijn
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, armijn!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v9zWv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2aeff6c Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.branca: init at 0.2.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 665df60 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.folium: init at 0.3.0
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<FRidh> anyone knows how to fix perl on staging? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/25500
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<LnL> it's _not_ failing on darwin? that never happens
<domenkozar> :D
<FRidh> time to switch to darwin it seems
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<domenkozar> niksnut: any thoughts about https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/25479
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<gchristensen> !seen fpletz
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v9zgN
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master eba840c Eelco Dolstra: Linux sandbox: Use /build instead of /tmp as $TMPDIR...
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<niksnut> domenkozar: hm, wasn't there already an issue about adding a darwin channel?
<niksnut> oh I was thinking of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24799
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<jophish> Just saw NIX_AUTO_RUN, very cool!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #25497: stalonetray: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.3 (master...upd.stalonetray) https://git.io/v9zL9
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<gchristensen> NIX_AUTO_RUN scares the crap out of me
<gchristensen> heh
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<nh2> what does that do / what is its purpose?
<gchristensen> if you don't have a command that you try and use and nix can get it, it auto-gets it and runs your command
<dash> yowza
<dash> yes, that's both awesome and frightening :-D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lheckemann opened pull request #25501: stdenv: fix "grep: invalid range" (staging...stdenv-grep-range) https://git.io/v9zoM
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<bennofs> does it install that sl thingy when you mistype ls?
<gchristensen> lol
<gchristensen> yes
<gchristensen> yes it does
<gchristensen> but our `sl` is broken, so it compiles and fails to run.
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<bennofs> lol
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<gchristensen> oh just kidding it is not broken
<gchristensen> my internet was just down when I tested :P
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<bennofs> sl requires network? :O
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<gchristensen> no, nix-daemon does to build and nix-store does to fetch
<dash> bennofs: auto-running uninstalled programs does
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<bennofs> oh right
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<nh2> gchristensen: "it auto-gets it and runs your command" :O :O
<nh2> I'd definitely prefer the command-not-found thing that tells me how I can get it
<domenkozar> nh2: that is the default
<bennofs> it's the spotify of linux programs
<dash> :D
<gchristensen> eh, bennofs?
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<dash> gchristensen: a large streaming library of linux programs ;)
<gchristensen> oh jesus haha
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<gchristensen> bennofs: also: NIX_AUTO_RUN=1 gti
<bennofs> nice
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<boxofrox> i have mariadb running inside a container. htop shows it's using a config located at /nix/store/czvmj0c4c8halb5i7ax6ivh5zh85yh73-my.cnf, but I can't find this path on the host system. anyone know where this path may be?
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<gchristensen> it should definitely be on the host, boxofrox :/
<boxofrox> dang.. i must be doing something wrong then :/
<gchristensen> maybe double check that you're copy-pasting it right?
<boxofrox> it's not a directory ><
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<gchristensen> eh?
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<boxofrox> that's what i was doing wrong, trynig to cd into /nix/store/czvm<tab><tab> = not there
<dash> yeah not everything in the nix store is a directory :)
<boxofrox> i assumed everything under /nix/store was a folder
<boxofrox> so, i found it. thanks :)
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<kykim> i'm trying to figure out how to override the postgresql pkg config in my /etc/nixos/configuration.nix file. anyone have any pointers?
<gchristensen> like you want to use a different postgresql package for the service?
<kykim> gchristensen: no, i want to add a line to the 'services.postgresql.authentication' string that's used to generate the pg_hba.conf file
<gchristensen> ah then you want https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#postgresql.authent
<gchristensen> make sure to check out the others too: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#postgresql.
<kykim> ah - the #postgresql.authent option - it's just a pg_hba.conf line/string?
<dtzWill> zomg NIX_AUTO_RUN hahaha. Terifying and awesome, indeed
<gchristensen> kykim: yeah, clicking through to read the module I see https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-17.03/nixos/modules/services/databases/postgresql.nix#L32
<LnL> dtzWill: that's a thing?
<kykim> gchristensen: fantastic - thanks a lot - still trying to grok all this config
<gchristensen> kykim: you're welcome!
<gchristensen> LnL: try (on a nixos box): NIX_AUTO_RUN=1 gti
<LnL> cool! does that use the same db as commandmissing?
<gchristensen> I think it is a feature of commandmissing
<avn_> Semi-oftoppic -- folks, anyone have simple basic awesome wm config? (actually I need max all, except dialogs, and thats all)
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<gchristensen> little observation, after spending >1yr talking with people in here I spell many words with "s" when I used to use a "z"
<gchristensen> "optimisation"
<isHavvy> You have converted to en-GB.
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<gchristensen> enough I had a coworker ask if I'm from GB
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<LnL> heh, there are quite a few eu people in here :)
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<boxofrox> avn_: is this what you're looking for? https://awesomewm.org/doc/api/sample%20files/rc.lua.html#
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v9zHu
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 77fba4a Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.pyproj: init at 1.9.5.1
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<avn_> boxofrox: yep, I try to strip extra stuff (like bars from it)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #25504: emby: 3.2.12 -> 3.2.13.0 (master...emby_3.2.13.0) https://git.io/v9zbu
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<romildo> I need to fetch from 2 git repositories to build a package (that I am writing a nix expression for). Is there any restriction with this in nix?
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<LnL> stdenv.mkDerivation supports multiple sources with srcs = [ ... ]
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 33962a4 Linus Heckemann: stdenv: fix "grep: invalid range"
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<avn_> another way -- is just let second_src = .... and then refer ${second_stc} in buildPhase
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<FRidh> I have the impression we have many new contributors. Anyone knows a nice tool to visualise such Github data?
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<bennofs> FRidh: well you can gather some information from https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/graphs/contributors?from=2016-09-21&to=2017-05-04&type=c. but you probably know that already ? :)
<bennofs> you can change the interval
<FRidh> bennofs: I didn't know you could change the interval.
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<hyper_ch> error: Package ‘python2.7-os-testr-0.4.2’ in ‘/nix/store/zaphjxhxnrx2cncmbmpaacqv4w503cgf-nixos-17.09pre106916.c5badb123a/nixos/pkgs/development/interpreters/python/mk-python-derivation.nix:56’ is marked as broken, refusing to evaluate. :(
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<FRidh> hyper_ch: fixed on master
<hyper_ch> :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f3f38ec Daniel Frank: kicad: update to 4.0.6
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 94d909a Alexander V. Nikolaev: gimp: fix all plugins build
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8452e06 Alexander V. Nikolaev: gimp: split buildInputs and nativeBuildInputs for plugins
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d53540d Eelco Dolstra: nixUnstable: 1.12pre5308_2f21d522 -> 1.12pre5344_eba840c8
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<gchristensen> CVE-2017-7895 Linux kernel: nfsd: Remote arbitrary memory read
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<pie_> anyone know why my cpu frequency is over the limit? https://pastebin.com/dE289Sa3
<pie_> (cpupower)
<gchristensen> where do you see it is over the limit?
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<pie_> well i feel that my cpu is hot heh, but ill quote in a sec
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<pie_> current policy: frequency should be within 500 MHz and 500 MHz.
<pie_> The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
<pie_> within this range.
<pie_> current CPU frequency is 2.34 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
<pie_> *over the policy limits
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 10abea9 Albert Peschar: pythonPackages.PyLD: init at 0.7.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6eff61d Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #25486 from apeschar/master...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 8283cc8 edanaher: prosody: 0.9.10 -> 0.9.12 (#24269) (#25394)...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh opened pull request #25506: Python: check if multiple versions of a package in a closure (master...unique) https://git.io/v9gc6
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<ericnoan> using the install iso to rescue a nixos system, i user nixos-install --chroot to chroot into the installed system right? why can't i change the user passwords? it complains about missing passwd
<ericnoan> oh well, i just reinstalled haha
<ericnoan> reinstalling is cheap
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] chris-martin closed pull request #23971: doc/stdenv: how to mkDerivation with no srcs (master...pr/doc-stdenv-srcs) https://git.io/vyHM4
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<earldouglas> Is the NixOps manual missing docs on resources.rdsDbInstances, or am I looking in the wrong place?
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<pie_> gchristensen, sorry, back
<gchristensen> I have no idea, sorry pie_ :(
<pie_> ok thx :C
<pie_> maybe intel_pstate has a better idea of what i want >:C
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #25504: emby: 3.2.12 -> 3.2.13.0 (master...emby_3.2.13.0) https://git.io/v9zbu
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<MichaelRaskin> intel pstate support in Linux is something that apparently has only one useful function: turn off
<MichaelRaskin> At least on my ThinkPad…
<MichaelRaskin> (without it cpufreq can work reasonably well)
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<pie_> MichaelRaskin, huh. how do i do that
<pie_> its the driver cpufreq appears to be using
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<MichaelRaskin> intel_pstate=disable
<MichaelRaskin> In the kernel command line
<MichaelRaskin> Then cpufreq suddenly agrees to work reasonably
<pie_> huh.
<pie_> -_-
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<pie_> thanks
<pie_> questions are had.
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<MichaelRaskin> What are the questions being had?
<MP2E> strange, when I attempt to build libxml2 on my system (instead of fetching from hydra), it seems to infinite loop during 'make check'
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<gchristensen> Ariane Space launch in 6min: http://www.arianespace.com/mission/ariane-flight-va236/
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 700d618 Vladimír Čunát: wrapFirefox: fix #25505 gtk3 file dialogs...
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<sphalerite> Is the xft tool for viewing fonts not packaged in nixpkgs?
<sphalerite> err, xfd
<bennofs> sphalerite: looks like it isnt
<schoppenhauer> hi. anyone here who can give me some link or something on how to configure linux containers using configuration.nix?
<sphalerite> schoppenhauer: Nixos containers http://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#ch-containers or linux containers as in the LXC tools?
<sphalerite> I don't think the latter is implemented. But the former is better anyway ;)
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<schoppenhauer> sphalerite: linux containers. are nixos-containers a frontend for linux containers?
<joepie91> schoppenhauer: I do believe so
<pie_> MichaelRaskin, well, intel_pstate, y u do dis
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<pie_> gchristensen, cool, whas going up
<sphalerite> schoppenhauer: By linux containers, do you mean namespaces? If so, yes. If you mean LXC, no.
<MichaelRaskin> pie_: as in success or not?
<gchristensen> I dunno, comms satellite or something pie
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<schoppenhauer> sphalerite: hm. I actually don't really know the difference between lxc and namespaces. I thought lxc is namespaces + specialized device nodes
<pie_> MichaelRaskin, i havent tried yet, dont want to reboot right now :P
<pie_> gchristensen, ah
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<sphalerite> schoppenhauer: lxc is a frontend to namespaces. It is confusing because they're often conflated. http://doger.io/ contains some useful information on the subject
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<MichaelRaskin> pie_: I cannot rule out that somewhere on the Earth there exists a series of Intel CPUs which are supported by Linux intel_pstate code in some useful way
<MichaelRaskin> I can even accept that the very existence of the code is a piece of weak evidence in favour of existence of such CPUs!
<MichaelRaskin> I just have never used any of these CPUs.
<joepie91> MichaelRaskin: something something unsolved problem in computing something...
<joepie91> :)
<ericnoan> MichaelRaskin: the engineers have it, they keep it for their paying corporate friends
<MichaelRaskin> Well, in this case I think the code would not activate by default outside Xeons
<ericnoan> this is symptomatic of cpu manufacturers not releasing docs or specs, which ends with some poor bloke trying to reverse engineer it blindly
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #25508: google-chrome: 57.0.2987.133 -> 58.0.3029.96 (master...google-chrome-variants) https://git.io/v9gzN
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bachp opened pull request #25509: openshift: copy symlinks into $bin/bin (master...openshift-size) https://git.io/v9g2m
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<clever> gchristensen: yay :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4e8aea4 Vladimír Čunát: thunderbird: fix missing icons...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 37a2949 Pascal Bach: openshift: copy symlinks into $bin/bin
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<codedmart> I am trying to use purescript with `nix-shell` on osx. I get a missing dep error about aeson? https://gist.github.com/codedmart/6e90a13d940670ce75074b2f36398613
<codedmart> How do I solve that?
<codedmart> Any ideas?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d75ae6d Vincent Laporte: smplayer: 17.3.0 -> 17.4.2
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<codedmart> I think I got it from a newer commit.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 31ad4e1 zraexy: perlPackages.RegexpGrammars: init at 1.045
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7845163 zraexy: bt-fw-converter: init at 2017-02-19
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<sphalerite> so I'm barely running any applications, yet apparently I haved 5.6GB of memory "used". What can cause this? htop doesn't report any programs using much memory.
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<simpson> sphalerite: What's $(free -hm) say?
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<sphalerite> aren't -h and -m contradictory? Anyway, that's what I was using — total 15G, used 5.6G, free 7.3G, shared 456M, buff/cache 2.3G, available 7.3G
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<simpson> Oh, I see, but you're not sure what's actually being used? And htop doesn't report the same numbers? That's a little strange.
<simpson> Maybe there's some invisible kernel buffers?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 68c6e5b Josef Kemetmueller: opencv3: Enable darwin build
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 390e2ea Daiderd Jordan: Merge pull request #25219 from knedlsepp/fix-opencv3-darwin...
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<sphalerite> simpson: htop does report the same numbers, but no processes using that memory
<sphalerite> Could it be the integrated graphics maybe?
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<simpson> Maybe, but 4GiB+ is a buttload for GPU RAM.
<simpson> I'm assuming that your kernel is sitting on ~1GiB of that earnestly.
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<sphalerite> It's not really actively causing a problem, but it does seem weird.
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<gchristensen> sphalerite: what exactly does `free` say?
<sphalerite> http://ix.io/sID
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d95cd1b Cray Elliott: obs-studio: 18.0.1 -> 18.0.2...
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<clever> sphalerite: oh, is this a zfs system?
<clever> arcstat.py -f time,read,dmis,dhit,dh%,mrug,mru,mfu,mfug,mread,c,ph%,pm%,mm%,miss,hits,mhit,mh%,mmis,hit%,eskip,arcsz 10
<clever> sphalerite: if its zfs, try running this, and look at the arcsz
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<tilpner> What is the reason that the /etc/zshenv adds channels for the root users if none exist?
<tilpner> And how would I disable that?
<tilpner> (Other than overriding/forking the package)
<clever> /home/clever/apps/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/programs/shell.nix: echo "${config.system.defaultChannel} nixos" > $HOME/.nix-channels
<clever> tilpner: maybe this
<clever> tilpner: its probably to handle fresh installs that lack any channel
<clever> tilpner: and if /root/.nix-channels/ exists, it will probably do nothing
<tilpner> I was looking at the generated output of that, but that doesn't really answer why that was added. I guess I can configure shellInit though
<clever> you would need to mkForce it, which would destroy all existing shellInit code
<clever> making an empty .nix-channels file would just turn it off
<tilpner> Oh, I didn't realize it wasn't specific to zsh. I assumed the notice meant all zsh instance, not actually all shells
<tilpner> Would setting environment.shellInit to that value without these lines work, or would that be appended?
<tilpner> touch-ing .nix-channels is okay too
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<clever> tilpner: appended
<tilpner> Ehh, touch it is then. Thanks once again! :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sh01 opened pull request #25512: Charybdis: Read MOTD files from /etc/charybdis. Add option to configure MOTD. (master...charybdis_motdconf) https://git.io/v9gFx
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v9gb7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cfd8314 Volth: freerdp: 20170201 -> 20170502
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c49b92f Joachim F: Merge pull request #25463 from volth/freerdp-20170502...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d8fccd4 pajowu: libsmi: init at 0.5.0 (#25433)
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<gchristensen> NixOS_GitHub: you should just stay a while, you might like it.
<clever> its probably the +n
<clever> need to configure the bot to just stay
<gchristensen> the bot won't stay
<gchristensen> the bot didn't used to join
<clever> but it may be serving many different groups, and using /nick to cheat and rename itself
<clever> +n forces all users to join before they can message the channel
<gchristensen> I know
<gchristensen> I'm just being playful
<clever> and a whois says its already gone
<clever> its either changing its name constantly to report to many groups, or disconnecting when done
<clever> so having it stay would result in more spamage
<gchristensen> further evidence I was being playful, a bot won't like it, a bot doesn't like things
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #25451: xrdp: do not restart xrdp-sesman on nixos-rebuild (master...xrdp-dont-restart) https://git.io/v9BK8
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #25446: connman-gtk: init at 1.1.1 (master...new.connman-gtk) https://git.io/v9Blo
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<judson_work> I've been getting "cannot coerce a set to a string" at e.g. name = "${baseName}-${version}"; in a couple different expressions recently
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<judson_work> And I can't figure out what it means - baseName and version are both strings...
<gchristensen> judson_work: ugh so frequently the name line is used if there is an error elsewhere in the expreession
<judson_work> Okay.
<judson_work> That's good to know
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<judson_work> I'm trying to set up a shell.nix just to override the version of node available to a project.
<judson_work> (because they've vendored node and I think it'll be easier to provide a matching node than the patchelf theirs)
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<judson_work> So I'm starting from the v6.nix expression
<judson_work> My basic problem, I think is error: value is a path while a set was expected when I try to import the system nodejs.nix
<judson_work> So: error: value is a path while a set was expected
<judson_work> nodejs = import <nixpkgs>/pkgs/development/web/nodejs/nodejs.nix {};
<clever> judson_work: you want callPackage, not import
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<judson_work> clever, I think you're right. Still returns "value is a path"
<judson_work> Well... I'm using import because that's what v6.nix uses
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<clever> judson_work: oh, you may also want to move the >, callPackage <nixpkgs/pkgs/development/web/nodejs/nodejs.nix> {};
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<judson_work> Ooooh
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<judson_work> I really wish <> were documented in with the expression language.
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<clever> <nixpkgs> just desugars into builtins.findFile builtins.nixPath "nixpkgs" at parse time
<clever> and i have used builtins.scopedImport to modify the value of nixPath for a single file before, to modify where it searches
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<judson_work> Right....
<clever> <nixpkgs> will just return the first nixpkgs it can find in the search path
<judson_work> I have this whole list of little trivia about Nix that folks seem to know, but I can never find a definitive reference for.
<clever> while <nixpkgs/pkgs/development/web/nodejs/nodejs.nix> will return the first nixpkgs, that contains nodejs.nix at that sub-path
<judson_work> I should start making a list and issuing doc PRs
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