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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #24610: Platform normalization (master...platform-normalization) https://git.io/vSBhY
<ben> why does builtins.toPath not return a path?
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<ben> looks like you can "convert" a string to a path with builtins.filterSource (_: _: true)...
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<simpson> ben: What are you building? This is usually not the right way to manage paths.
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<ben> I've been wondering why only configuration.nix gets copied into the built nixos system
<ben> so i'm thinking about at least grabbing the whole dir with environment.etc = { nixos-orig = { source = builtins.filterSource (_: _: true) ./.; };
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<ben> (I've been putting patches in there rather than forking the channel or w/e)
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<simpson> You don't need to filterSource; you can do `source = ./.;` directly. That's an interesting system.
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<ben> I can't, because source is a string that's taken as a symlink target, so I just end up with a symlink to /etc/nixos instead of to a copy of /etc/nixos in the store
<simpson> Oh my.
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<ben> (... yeah, toPath wouldn't have helped me to begin with, but at that point I was thinking I needed to do builtins.dirOf <nixos-config> or something, because I forgot ./. exists...)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens closed pull request #24572: finalterm-git: Cosmetic change (master...finalterm) https://git.io/vS8fN
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<schoppenhauer> hi. is it possible to use a specific gcc version to build a package?
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<schoppenhauer> I want to use nixos.gcc49 instead of 54
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<gchristensen> schoppenhauer: search around for (I think) overrideCC
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<schoppenhauer> gchristensen: thank you, seems legit
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] AndersonTorres closed pull request #18715: Trinity on nixos (master...trinity-on-nixos) https://git.io/viXsb
<schoppenhauer> hm. is overridePackages called on every channel, or is it called only on the main channel?
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<schoppenhauer> http://lpaste.net/3110338289819713536 ← this is my ~/config.nix. I want to override palemoon to be built with gcc49 (to test whether a bug also occurs there). as user, I have the nixos-unstable channel in addition to the stable channel. however, when doing this, I get the error message: error: attribute ‘palemoon’ missing, at /home/christoph/.nixpkgs/config.nix:33:16
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<schoppenhauer> which means it doesn't find pkgs.palemoon
<schoppenhauer> might be because it is unstablen
<schoppenhauer> not sure
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<schoppenhauer> hm. maybe I better write to the mailing list
<schoppenhauer> as this is more sophisticated
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<alphor> why is there no mechanism to override service declarations?
<alphor> like overrideDerivation
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSRGJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4736c19 Luke Gorrie: pharo-launcher: Add test case & myself as maintainer
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 94d1145 Domen Kožar: Merge pull request #24597 from lukego/pharo-launcher-test...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dguibert opened pull request #24614: zerotierone: 1.1.14 -> 1.2.2 (master...update/zerotierone) https://git.io/vSRnJ
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSRWs
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9497da7 Vladimír Čunát: palemoon: switch to gcc-4.9...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vSRl3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 ce3ab70 Vladimír Čunát: palemoon: switch to gcc-4.9...
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<mg_> I upgraded to 17.03 and suddenly my guile project can't find the libguile.h header any more. Can't seem to find any include-dir in the package anymore. What do?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti deleted v192 at f40430d: https://git.io/vPYu2
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<peti> mg_: Make sure guile.dev is available.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #24592: Pijul 0.4 (master...pijul4) https://git.io/vS4m2
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<aminechi1haoui> is there a tool for generating a deps.nix from a GoDeps.json file ?
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<Filystyn> intel compielr is not in rep right?
<Filystyn> tried to find it and no
<Filystyn> But maybe i missed something ;-)
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<pi3r> I would like a central place to manage nixpkgs versions (pinned or unstable). Is it idiomatic to add this to the overlays (I have stripped the overlays/default):
<pi3r> I am also asking because this is an infinite loop apparently: http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/Z1rn6VLu?nix
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<avn> Folks, any ideas, why I see `- Paravirtualized EC2 instances are no longer supported.` when try rebuild system on my desktop? Is definelly not on amazon.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSRV0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d3fff80 Jörg Thalheim: exa: unstable-2016-04-20 -> unstable-2017-04-02 (unbrick)...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lukego opened pull request #24615: rstudio: 0.98.110 -> 1.1.135 (WORK IN PROGRESS) (master...rstudio-upgrade) https://git.io/vSRwD
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar closed pull request #24595: pharo-vm: Disable "pic" hardening (master...pharo-no-pic) https://git.io/vS4WG
<Mic92> I think I will revert it for the mean time
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<CMCDragonkai> does physlock work on NixOS?
<CMCDragonkai> I keep getting `No entry for tty7 found`
<CMCDragonkai> `physlock: /var/run/utmp: No entry for tty7 found`
<avn> Mic92: adding `ec2.hvm = true;` to config looks also fix it (Not checked yet, if it broke something or not)
<Mic92> avn: this looks like a dirty work around
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<avn> Mic92: yes ;) I try to decrease stack of local commits ;)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSRoT
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 71710fd Jörg Thalheim: Revert "EC2: Disable PV support"...
<Mic92> avn: ^
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSRo0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 50f7a7c Jörg Thalheim: rtl8192su-firmware: init at unstable-2016-10-05
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 847fdaa Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #24502 from Mic92/rtl8192su-firmware...
<ashkitten> CMCDragonkai: physlock working fine for me
<Mic92> CMCDragonkai: looks like we only have 6 ttys on nixos
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<ashkitten> Mic92: i'm pretty sure it's referring to the TTY the X server is running on for CMCDragonkai
<Mic92> make sense
<CMCDragonkai> tty7 is the X server
<CMCDragonkai> i'm running XMonad, no desktop manager
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<CMCDragonkai> maybe it's not writing to utmp? not sure, it still doesn't work on tty1 either
<ashkitten> utmp is what physlock uses to determine what user is currently logged in
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSRKt
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d211be Jörg Thalheim: rustPackages: build less verbose
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<CMCDragonkai> yes, that's what the issues mention, but then why isn't it working, is it relying on XMonad to write to utmp or sddm to write to utmp or something else?
<_c_> profpatsch: globin: fpletz: anyone up for 1-2 days of bug squashing & barbeque around May, 1 (long weekend)?
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<chpatrick> hi
<chpatrick> does the ssh substituter actually work currently?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #24617: baobab: fix missing dconf module (master...baobab) https://git.io/vSRKQ
<chpatrick> sshSubstituterHosts isn't used anywhere in the nix source as far as I can see
<Profpatsch> _c_: Yeah, sure.
<_c_> Profpatsch: :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSR6O
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bb1e655 Jörg Thalheim: sysdig: 1.15.0 -> 1.15.1
<_c_> Profpatsch: Where? club, openlab, mf?
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<Profpatsch> _c_: all three work for me.
<Profpatsch> I’m not sure if I can do both days, but one may work.
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<manveru> CMCDragonkai: yeah, couldn't get it to work either :(
<manveru> i went back to i3lock, but sure would be nice to have something more automatic...
<manveru> wonder how hard it would be to implement autolocking via bluetooth, so i could unlock my machine with my pebble :)
<gchristensen> I tried that with macOS but it was too slow to detect I was gone, and too slow to detect I was back
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<pie_> hey guys is it just me or is haskellPackages.idris REALLY old
<pie_> i get 0.12.3 and we are at like 0.99 or 1.0
<manveru> gchristensen: it works fine for me using tokenlock on macos
<manveru> but only with my phone... pebble has issues there
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<pie_> how can i install something from a different repo in my configuration.nix?, can i specify what repos to use there as well, so i dont need to use nix-channel_
<pie_> ?
<chpatrick> does ssh-substituter-hosts work with the nix-daemon?
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<gchristensen> shoot I forget their IRC nick, who is expipiplus from github?
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<gchristensen> jophish_: ?
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<carlosdagos> hi all, having a bit of an issue: I've downladed a tarball and running ./configure gives me an error saying that gcc cant be found (but its installed)
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<gchristensen> Profpatsch: we can't issue our own CVEs but we did get a CVE number for that particular bug
<LnL> oh I didn't realise it was an actual CVE
<gchristensen> the second line of my announcement had the CVE :)
<Profpatsch> gchristensen: Nice!
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<gchristensen> yeah! it was certainly deserving :P
<praduca> Hi to all
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<praduca> anyone knows the state of xen on nixos?
<gchristensen> it should work
<praduca> some docs say its not supported, but there are lots of config options for xen
<gchristensen> what docs say it isn't supported?
<mg_> thanks peti
<LnL> indeed, nice to know that a big issue like this is on there
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<praduca> gchristensen: ssorry not docs, posts etc
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<CMCDragonkai> manveru: did you get the same tty error?
<manveru> CMCDragonkai: yes
<gchristensen> praduca: I've never used it, but it should work
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<CMCDragonkai> manveru: Does i3lock deal with preventing tty switching similar to physlock?
<praduca> on the docs it says to just enable it on configuration.nix, but folowing those tips, i get without network and with a nonfunctional bridge... i'm not complaining, but this is trivial on ubuntu
<CMCDragonkai> Archwiki mentions: > Warning: Only sflock, physlock, Cinnamon Screensaver, MATE Screensaver and GNOME Screensaver are able to block tty access. See Xorg#Block TTY access on how to manually block tty access.
<manveru> CMCDragonkai: nope
<CMCDragonkai> sflock is not even on nixpkgs
<manveru> i usually don't log into a TTY, so it'd be about the same for me
<gchristensen> praduca: I don't know much about xen, but it sounds like you may be expected to configure more of it
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<praduca> gchristensen will dig a little more then. Thanks!:
<gchristensen> praduca: what version of nixos?
<CMCDragonkai> i'm going to try slock right now
<praduca> gchristensen: yes, there is config options for the bridge, but I found a bug on the bridge adress setup
<gchristensen> but what version are you running? 16.09?
<praduca> gchristensen: both 16.09 and 17.03 do the same
<gchristensen> hmm it seems https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/19900 should be in 17.03
<CMCDragonkai> Running slock gives `slock: unable to disable OOM killer. Make sure to suid or sgid slock.`
<gchristensen> is there another bug you've found?
<praduca> gchristensen: it's close to this, but not the same
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<gchristensen> praduca: if you can do some research and debugging and open an issue, tag oxij on github, they do a good bit of xen maintainer work
<praduca> it actually sets the netmask with the wrong value for the bridge, not only for the vms
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<CMCDragonkai> woot i3lock works
<praduca> I opened it yesterday
<CMCDragonkai> it's the only one that does, physlock doesn't and neither does slock, maybe should be marked broken on 17.03
<CMCDragonkai> or physlocke depends on the desktop manager to write to utmp which xmonad perhaps doesn't
<gchristensen> praduca: "happens with the previous version of NixOS too (16.04)." do you mean .09 or .3?
<gchristensen> ... .09 or .03?
<praduca> gchristensen: 16.09
<vandenoever> does nix currently support cabal + stack ?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixops] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSR97
<NixOS_GitHub> nixops/master b0a94c9 Eelco Dolstra: Assume ec2.hvm == true if the instance doesn't exist yet...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixops/master 6a66c9b Eelco Dolstra: Default system.stateVersion to the current Nixpkgs rather than 14.12...
<gchristensen> praduca: ok I updated your issue to reflect that
<praduca> It was the first version of Nixos I installed :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSRHY
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 279565c Eelco Dolstra: Revert "Revert "EC2: Disable PV support""...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 35dbcbb Eelco Dolstra: Fix eval error due to config.ec2.hvm
<praduca> gchristensen: tks for the edit
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<manveru> CMCDragonkai: well, you just replicated my journey :)
<manveru> i also tried adding a security wrapper to slock, without much luck
<jophish_> hey gchristensen
<jophish_> I am expipiplus1
<gchristensen> jophish_: what is IFD? :)
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<fpletz> _c_: not sure yet, but I should have time :)
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<jophish_> gchristensen: import from derivation
<gchristensen> oh
<gchristensen> can you make a test case for me? :)
<jophish_> sure
<jophish_> I think there's one already at nix/#666
<jophish_> ah, that's one which diverges
<copumpkin> niksnut: any plan to revive hydra logs somehow soon? it's getting rather painful
<copumpkin> niksnut: especially since lots of the time it seems like the logs aren't there even if I figure out the URL by hand, and then I'm left wondering if I screwed up the manual URL somehow
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<CMCDragonkai> manveru: Someone should write our journeys down!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus opened pull request #24619: docker: 17.03.0 -> 17.03.1 (master...docker_17_03_1) https://git.io/vSRQP
<dtzWill> copumpkin: edolstra said he's working on it as of a few hours ago: https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/456#issuecomment-291434535
<copumpkin> oh cool
<copumpkin> thanks
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSRQQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3a9c217 Dan Peebles: rtags: fix for clang/libc++ 4...
<dtzWill> copumpkin: this is hydra.nixos.org right now your own instance? just checking O:)
<copumpkin> hydra.nixos.org :)
<copumpkin> vcunat: hmm doubly weird about hydra and libc++ then
<copumpkin> vcunat: just tried again and it's definitely building just fine on my laptop
<copumpkin> (right now)
<copumpkin> could be an impurity that was introduced recently but that seems unlikely in such a core library that doesn't really get touched very often
<gchristensen> vcunat isn't on IRC, copumpkin
<copumpkin> weird, Riot is autocompleting the nick
<copumpkin> oh I guess it autocompletes even nicks that aren't online but have been at some point?
<LnL> gchristensen: he sometimes is, I think he reads the logs sometimes
<gchristensen> weird, copumpkin
<Filystyn> after installing clang
<Filystyn> nixie started to use it as default
<Filystyn> wrong
<Filystyn> use gcc, that is why it's there
<gchristensen> what is nixie?
<Filystyn> nixos
<Filystyn> ;-)
<Filystyn> cc defaults to clang that's the pain
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<gchristensen> nix doesn't change how it compiles based on what you've installed
<Filystyn> cc defaults to clang. if i remove clang it defaults to gcc. that is the pain.
<Filystyn> ill just use gcc in command line i guess ;-)
<gchristensen> that doesn't make any sense, can you provide more information and logs?
<Filystyn> ill just do pasty as a proof
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<dtzWill> copumpkin: riot/matrix sync nick lists only periodically, and I've also definitely seen the same thing re:nick shown in room but missing for some time
<copumpkin> I feel like I must be missing something here: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1298
<dtzWill> although nickserv says vcunat was last seen 'now' (!) lol
<copumpkin> hah there you go
<dtzWill> he's hiding from us!
<dtzWill> D:
<gchristensen> Filystyn: I don't know, I installed clang and gcc and cc defaults to gcc
<copumpkin> Filystyn: you on macOS?
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<gchristensen> Filystyn: how did you install clang and gcc?
<Filystyn> Im on nixos ;-)
<LnL> Filystyn: I would not recommend "installing" build dependencies like that
<Filystyn> i have gcc 6.3 wrapper and clang .4 wrapper
<gchristensen> Filystyn: but how did you install clang and gcc?
<Filystyn> installed with nix-env -i
<gchristensen> did you install clang first then gcc?
<Filystyn> first gcc than clang
<Filystyn> ooops this might be it
<dtzWill> err and there wasn't a conflict over 'cc'? interesting
<Filystyn> but my makefile
<gchristensen> "nix-shell -p gcc -p clang" vs "nix-shell -p clang -p gcc" has different results for me
<LnL> gchristensen: :o
<Filystyn> seem to turn gcc to cc or i just did some msitkae in it ;-)
<dtzWill> (can confirm re:cc no conflict, guess one has some prio stuff?)
<LnL> strange
<copumpkin> nix-shell doesn't do conflict checking
<copumpkin> I think the conflict/priority code is in profiles/nix-env
<LnL> Filystyn: I would recommend you use a nix-shell or write an expression instead of installing dependencies like that into your user profile
<gchristensen> $ nix-shell -p gcc -p clang --run "which cc"
<copumpkin> and nix-shell doesn't use profiles
<gchristensen> /nix/store/r54jv402shjggj3fn2dy895iycy3afxi-gcc-wrapper-5.4.0/bin/cc
<gchristensen> $ nix-shell -p clang -p gcc --run "which cc"
<gchristensen> /nix/store/y7516rszl95hmdy6nkakimr7x77r8hj0-clang-wrapper-3.9.1/bin/cc
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<copumpkin> shlevy: take a loo!
<LnL> copumpkin: pretty sure buildEnv also complains about conflicts
<copumpkin> sure, but nix-shell doesn't use buildEnv either
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<ircuser5678> I've used 'nix-env -i network-manager-applet-1.4.4' to install the network manager applet. There are two versions of this package. Is using 'nix-env -e network-manager-applet-1.4.4' the correct way to get rid of everything that I just installed (including config files)?
<gchristensen> simply installing a package doesn't add config files to your system :)
<ircuser5678> uh. so I must add anything that I want to configure to configuration.nix?
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<gchristensen> or manually add configuration where the software expects it ,yeah
<dtzWill> copumpkin: I meant there's no conflict if I install both gcc6 and clang_4 with nix-env
<ircuser5678> but the uninstall command was correct, right?
<gchristensen> looks right to me
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<ircuser5678> ok, thanks
<gchristensen> I don't use nix-env very much, but it looks right
<abbradar> ircuser5678: Nix doesn't handle user settings (like user connections for nmapplet) so you'd need to clean them by yourself
<dtzWill> ircuser5678: won't hurt much if wrong, check that it's no longer shown in the output of 'nix-env -q' (your current profile)
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<ircuser5678> ok, it doesn't show up on nix-env -q
<ircuser5678> gchristensen: what do you do instead?
<gchristensen> I primarily use nix-shell
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<vandenoever> i'm trying to install kdepim, it's listed by 'nix-env -qa' for nixos 17.03
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<dtzWill> vandenoever: what's the problem?
<vandenoever> dtzWill: actually after 'nix-channel --upgrade' kdepim is gone
<vandenoever> seems that nixos 17.03 has no kmail
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<dtzWill> vandenoever: well quick look shows me there's a 'kdepimlibs' and AFAICT from https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM#Applications "kdepim" isn't an application. Did you maybe want kontact?
<dtzWill> oh hmm
<vandenoever> dtzWill: sure, kmail is part of kontact
<vandenoever> kontact is kmail + knode + akregator + more
<dtzWill> looks like we don't have it by itself, and I'm not sure that's a bug-- following the link from the page above yields https://userbase.kde.org/KMail/Linux which says "Currently, the only tarball I could find is the whole Kontact suite, located here:" lol.
<vandenoever> 9d6bfacc8 'kde4: remove inessential KDE 4 modules' maybe not so inessential
<Filystyn> thx for respond guys. LnL this is from my lib it just passes types of compilations to shoot out all warnings it finds ;-)
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<dtzWill> vandenoever: eep, indeed, esp since don't have it at all anymore :(. sorry, hopefully that PR gets some attention soon.
* vandenoever goes to test rollback to 16.09
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<gchristensen> vandenoever: "inessential" there has different meaning, unfortunately nobody was really maintained KDE4 in NixOS so it was time to remove kde4. similarly, nobody has stepped up to maintain the kde PIM systems either
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<shlevy> domenkozar: ikwildrpepper: niksnut: Can I have committer access to rfcs?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSRjE
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 01dbf03 Eelco Dolstra: network-link-*.service: Set stopIfChanged = false...
<pie_> hey guys
<pie_> if i want to get power profiles like on windows so i can get better battery life when want, what do i need to do?
<pie_> i see 17.03 was just released
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<gchristensen> I don't know about power profiles, but sounds like you want something Gnome or KDE would provide
<xeviox> pie_: in my experience Linux mostly can't cope with Windows when it comes to power management
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<xeviox> which I don't think is an OS related problem but comes from the lack of good hardware drivers from vendors
<xeviox> so there are a couple of options (spread over different apps and settings) that could help a bit, but don't expect the same battery life you get with Windows
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<gchristensen> same with macOS, macOS has the best power management in the industry
<pie_> hmm interesting "Python 2.7, 3.5 and 3.6 are now built deterministically and 3.4 mostly. Minor modifications had to be made to the interpreters in order to generate deterministic bytecode. This has security implications and is relevant for those using Python in a nix-shell. See the Nixpkgs manual for details. "
<pie_> xeviox, aww, ok
<xeviox> hey Apple has the best position as it has a limited set of hardware which it builds / sells itself
<gchristensen> no doubt, xeviox
<pie_> would be nice if that linked to the relevant part of the manual
<xeviox> gchristensen: sorry it was a type, I wanted to start with "yeh"
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<goibhniu> pie_: you can use things like cpufreq-set, to select the powersave governor
<goibhniu> on kde you can get scripts to run when you switch to battery power etc. (I guess you can do this directly with systemd too)
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<crzyp3ck> I have a problem with the fluxbox. moving mouse from window to desktop to another program changes the mouse from the X defualt cursor theme to breeze to Xdefault theme.
<crzyp3ck> Why?
<crzyp3ck> What is the solution.
<goibhniu> that's normal AFAIK
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<crzyp3ck> goibhniu: I didn't have such problem. Just in NixOS. any solution?
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<crzyp3ck> goibhniu: This is the solution but I don't know how should I imolement it. ln -s /usr/share/cursors/xorg-x11 ~/.icons
<copumpkin> niksnut: is there a way to get -- on nix-shell to pass arguments to the --command?
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<goibhniu> crzyp3ck: sounds promising!
<gchristensen> goibhniu: the problem of course is we don't have /usr/share/cursors/xorg-x11
<goibhniu> sure, I can't find any xorg-x11 in my store either
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<ashkitten> How can I manage dotfiles with NixOS?
<gchristensen> nixos doesn't have a way to manage dotfiles, but you might look at https://github.com/sheenobu/nix-home
<ashkitten> I saw that, but I didn't see any way to manage actual dotfiles with nix-home
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<gchristensen> did you look at the dot files in their README? ".vimrc" = "${somePkg}/path-to-file";
<ashkitten> hmm
<ashkitten> Is there a way to integrate nix-home with configuration.nix so I can setup a computer without extra steps like logging in as a user and downloading my nix-home config manually?
<gchristensen> not that I know of
<ashkitten> Alright
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<shlevy> niksnut: Can we get RFC PRs to print in the irc channel?
<bennofs> ashkitten: I use this code:
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<ashkitten> hmm
<makefu> bennofs: i like https://github.com/bennofs/etc-nixos/blob/6e89ddcffccd90defe7c529545f630e99ed95141/conf/default.nix#L186 , will integrate it into my config. "Only possible with the power of nix(tm)"
<philipp[m]> bennofs: btw auto-optimise-store is now a native option
<philipp[m]> nix.autoOptimiseStore.
<ashkitten> I'm wondering now what would a good way to initialize my dotfiles repository on a new system (since I wouldn't have my SSH key on there yet)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #24617: baobab: fix missing dconf module (master...baobab) https://git.io/vSRKQ
<bennofs> ashkitten: make your dotfiles public? :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vS0qb
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fccce06 Jörg Thalheim: baobab: remove superflous gsettings_desktop_schemas
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 15c2af4 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #24617 from Mic92/baobab...
<ashkitten> They are public but I want to clone via ssh
<ashkitten> And I have another dotfiles repository that is secret
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<bennofs> what's the advantage of cloning via ssh :o?
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<philipp[m]> I guess that you can push later without editing the config?
<ashkitten> I guess
<gchristensen> ashkitten: this bootstrapping problem is always tough, and nix doesn't aim to solve it I think
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<ashkitten> i think I'll have a secret NixOS config repository to go with my secret dotfiles repository
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<philipp[m]> This is how I do it. There is my user with the it's authorized keys in there, so I can push my configs from an old machine.
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<pi3r> Someone interested in updating `albert` that would listen to the channel ? I have got an `ld` error while building 0.10.3
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<gchristensen> just ask your question, there are people without specific interest in the software but are interested in helping package stuff
<pi3r> I have 'collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status' and I don't know what to do with it ;-) Building with a previous version was ok.
<pi3r> This is a more complete output: http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/XNbWgUKC?nix
<pie_> goibhniu, thanks ill look inot that
<pie_> *into
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<pi3r> gchristensen: maybe I need to add an deps on xdg ?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vS0ON
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e0160f7 Peter Simons: LTS Haskell 8.8
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4f62f34 Peter Simons: hackage2nix: disable Hydra builds for accelerate-* packages with unfree license
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b232d2f Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...
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<pie_> geez, what is up with you people and project names, if anything is harder to google than nix, its not-os, wth is not-os? :PP https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/24346
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<dash_> pie_: ??
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<dash_> pie_: first google hit for "not-os" is relevant
<gchristensen> pie_: not-os is a hacky side-project a community member did for the fun of it with no intentions of it becoming a "Bigger thing"
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #24623: thunderbird, thunderbird-bin: 45.8.0 -> 52.0 (master...thunderbird-bin-52.0) https://git.io/vS031
<gchristensen> calling us out with "what is up with you people and project names" is perhaps a bit over the top in that context
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #24614: zerotierone: 1.1.14 -> 1.2.2 (master...update/zerotierone) https://git.io/vSRnJ
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<pie_> i must be very bad at using google than
<pie_> then
<pie_> gchristensen, i didnt mean to be mean
<simpson> pie_: I typed "clever not-os" into DDG. I am admittedly very boring.
<gchristensen> searching "Not-os nixos" found it as the top result for me, but I think it wasn't really intended to be found
<gchristensen> (even not-os found it for me?)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #24604: Ruby updates (master...ruby_updates) https://git.io/vSBC2
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/f0ba178a3c13...7fe25124bc3b
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bc45ee5 Tim Steinbach: ruby: 2.4.0 -> 2.4.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4825669 Tim Steinbach: ruby: 2.3.3 -> 2.3.4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ec2c469 Tim Steinbach: ruby: 2.2.5 -> 2.2.7
<pie_> oh its the third result for me
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] qknight closed pull request #1296: builtins.port: manage dynamic port number allocation in nix (master...builtins.port) https://git.io/vS4jy
<pie_> the first two results were completely unrelated and i just assumed failure >.>
<pie_> and all the other results except the third :P
<clever> gchristensen: *waves*
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<gchristensen> oh hi clever :)
<clever> just got back to the laptop
<gchristensen> you've been popular today!
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e410c78 Eelco Dolstra: gnupg: Give the 1compat package a higher priority...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master de51ad6 Eelco Dolstra: Don't restart systemd-fsck@ units...
<clever> heh
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #24624: add Source Han Serif font (master...source-han-serif) https://git.io/vS0G7
<clever> pie_: id say not-os is more of an example right now, something you would want to fork and further customize, to suit your embeded programming needs
<pie_> clever, i didnt even know what it was really, but neat
<pie_> well i mean before i was shown the page
<clever> ah
<pie_> it was just mentioned in that thread i linked
<clever> pie_: as for why i picked that name, its an OS based on nix, but its not nixos
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9fc14f2 Jörg Thalheim: gnome-keyring: use wrapGAppsHook
<makefu> what i would really love to see is openwrt/lede but built by nix. their current built system is very hard to extend but right now it is the best you can get for routers with 4mb flash
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #24625: Networkmanager (master...networkmanager) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24625
<gchristensen> makefu: that would be very interesting
<clever> makefu: i have booted not-os on a raspberry pi (arm)
<clever> makefu: and i do have an x86 router running nixos
<clever> makefu: in theory, you could add nixos firewall support to not-os, and then build an arm image from that, but currently, you would need to reflash the device to change a firewall rule
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<domenkozar> shlevy: why do you need that? :)
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<domenkozar> it's not important who can commit stuff there
<shlevy> domenkozar: To ask for reviewers, to assign people, to put tags, to merge #7 which has a bunch of +1s :D
<makefu> clever: well it is essentially the same thing for openwrt, they arrive with an read-only squashfs and only reserve a part of their flash for an dedicated overlay which will be mounted in the boot process
<shlevy> domenkozar: (#7 is not an RFC but a change to the template)
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<clever> makefu: yep, but the current nixos firewall doesnt have options for extending it at runtime
<pie_> in this thread, best linux distro ever if it happens http://lists.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2017-March/023113.html
<bitonic> How can I override a GHC package? I'm not very familiar with overrides and I didn't get very far with `pkgs.lib.overrideDerivation pkgs.haskell.packages.ghc802 (old: rec {...})`
<pi3r> ericsagnes
<pie_> well, NixBSD plz ehehe
<pi3r> ericsagnes: do you know what's missing to build albert 0.10.3 ? http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/XNbWgUKC?nix
<domenkozar> shlevy: done
<shlevy> domenkozar: thanks :)
<domenkozar> (I'll send you bribing bitcoin address privately)
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<bitonic> Specifically I need to include a patched version of GHC in a project
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #24626: modules/searx: fix configFile type (master...searx-types) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24626
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<dash> clever: i was trying to set up nixos on an arm board (USB Armory) last year. something like not-os seems ideal because i really don't want to be running any config/build stuff on the board itself
<gchristensen> any sort of nixos can build and push the system to another host without building on the box
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<dash> gchristensen: mmm ok, cross builds weren't easy last time i tried
<gchristensen> how would not-os fix that?
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<dash> Didn't say it did.
<gchristensen> I see
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mdaiter opened pull request #24627: suitesparse: refining CUDA support (master...suitesparseCUDATouchups) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24627
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9904019841b66a11d1dce48a54c15539f0731614
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9904019 Shea Levy: nix-plugins: Bump, unbreak
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 7dfef27 Shea Levy: nix-plugins: Bump, unbreak...
<gchristensen> installing nix on a new machine, I get "error: the build users group ‘nixbld’ has no members" however nixbld exists and I have 4 nixbld users each with their primary group set to nixbld
<gchristensen> any ideas?
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<ronny> whats needed to make boxen (the virtual machine app) work on nix
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] AMDmi3 opened pull request #24628: Fix schema, maintainers are usually an array (master...patch-1) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24628
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] AMDmi3 opened pull request #24629: Fix schema, maintainers are usually an array (master...patch-2) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24629
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 488792a Eelco Dolstra: Make /var/run/nscd/socket optional...
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<7IZAAZBCG> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #24628: Fix schema, maintainers are usually an array (master...patch-1) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24628
<17SAAP2SU> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/9904019841b6...302febccbca9
<17SAAP2SU> nixpkgs/master ef2c8f9 Dmitry Marakasov: Fix schema, maintainers are usually an array
<17SAAP2SU> nixpkgs/master 302febc Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #24628 from AMDmi3/patch-1...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #24629: Fix schema, maintainers are usually an array (master...patch-2) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24629
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 8decb07 Eelco Dolstra: Allow default sandbox paths to be overriden...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] PierreR opened pull request #24630: albert: 0.10.0 -> 0.10.2 (master...master) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24630
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<schoppenhauer> lol @ flamewar on the mailinglist about systemd :3
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e84d5b2 Eelco Dolstra: Allow systemd-fsck@.service to find fsck.*...
<zimbatm> :)
<schoppenhauer> I actually wonder why nobody has yet made a fork of nixos that does not use systemd. I'd assume that this is doable, and there seems to be high demand.
<zimbatm> it's easier to flame
<schoppenhauer> yes. well, tbh, I would also appreciate *not* using systemd. but it doesn't bother me enough.
<zimbatm> the systemd guys actually address real world problems like not having a pile of shell scripts in the init
<simpson> schoppenhauer: It's not easy. It's a lot of work.
<schoppenhauer> simpson: ok
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<__Sander__> grown up open source projects -> more bikeshedding
<schoppenhauer> simpson: I didn't say it was easy. I just said it would be doable, if it really bothered people that much.
<zimbatm> I would mind having an alternative to systemd either
<zimbatm> but it adds complexity
<zimbatm> I doubt we can find an interface that works with all init scripts nicely
<schoppenhauer> yes. it would have to be something that is nixos-specific. and that wouldn't make it better.
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<schoppenhauer> I'd appreciate it more if we got rid of perl ;)
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<schoppenhauer> but that's also just an opinion.
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<schoppenhauer> maybe technically, it would be nice to use or be compatible with something like environment-modules (as it has some common goals with nix-shells).
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/527512e5549c237010be421b14535c95f4f907ba
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 527512e Nikolay Amiantov: qutebrowser: add withWebEngineDefault flag...
<schoppenhauer> I liked the old init system from arch linux. namely, just a list of stuff that has to be started ^^
<schoppenhauer> ah, but I wonder: isn't there a branch of nixos for windows and for macos? how do these handle initscripts?
<schoppenhauer> (just out of curiousity)
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<Dezgeg> there is no nixos support for non-linux
<avn> zimbatm: Using some script generators for other inits on top of systemd.services tree should work, and I estimate complexity of this as "medium" ;)
<avn> zimbatm: if it will be well-received by community, may be cost introduce more abstract indirection level than systemd.services
<Dezgeg> that is what I would do as well
<simpson> schoppenhauer: My opinion on this is Linus' opinion; "Talk is cheap. Show me the code."
<schoppenhauer> Dezgeg: ah, so it's just nixpkgs?
<Dezgeg> and maybe even you don't necessarily to have to do this on the nixos module level, but rather convert the systemd unit files themselves to the other init... I'm pretty sure other non-systemd distros could then collaborate on that tool as well
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<zimbatm> avn: yeah that's the approach that's the most plausible
<zimbatm> I think we need to extract the nixos module and activation script concept into a new thing like a nix "profile
<zimbatm> instead of using nix-env you would use nix-profile switch ./conf.nix
<zimbatm> profiles should map to os-level, user-level and project-level
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<zimbatm> that would allow to move to other OSes
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<avn> I see. Btw would be nice to have nixpkgs/nixos commands extendable like git to manage system in more customizable way
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<Sonarpulse> bgamari: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24610 back at it :)
<bgamari> yay!@
<Sonarpulse> :)
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<Sonarpulse> on our internal tracker, I also made some issues for upstreaming the ghc-android branch
<Sonarpulse> so the roadmap is definitely there
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<Sonarpulse> what's the syntax for the new $out thing again?
<Sonarpulse> to avoid bash magic?
<fresheyeball> hello out there
<fresheyeball> I'd like krita to work again (it worked fine on nixos 16)
<fresheyeball> but it doesn't work now because it can't find needed qt stuff
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<Yaniel> It's broken now?
<fresheyeball> Yaniel: yeah
* Yaniel gotta check on unstable as soon as he's home
<Yaniel> So ~1h
<fresheyeball> thats the error
<fresheyeball> I resolved this last time by adding qt57.full to my configuration.nix
<fresheyeball> but that package seems to be dead now
<fresheyeball> so I don't know how krita can work for anyone :(
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<goibhniu> ah, so it probably works if you're running kde/plasma5
<abbradar> strange, krita worked for me when I updated it last time
<abbradar> let me check it
<abbradar> (I'm not on plasma)
<zimbatm> fresheyeball: what platform are you on?
<goibhniu> it works here on unstable (kde), but I'm not so up to date
<Yaniel> Ah, yeah I use plasma5
<abbradar> it works for me, no kde
<abbradar> up to date unstable
<fresheyeball> zimbatm: I'm using nixos, and running xmonad + kde
<fresheyeball> I'm not using unstable
<fresheyeball> (or atleast I don't think I am)
<zimbatm> yeah just double-checking because qt is broken on Darwin I think
<abbradar> fresheyeball: do you have anything in /run/current-system/sw/lib/qt5?
<niksnut> fresheyeball: what's wrong with krita?
<fresheyeball> abbradar: I have two directories, plugins and qml
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<abbradar> fresheyeball: that's bad, you shouldn't have anything there
<fresheyeball> niksnut: http://lpaste.net/354280
<abbradar> Qt 5 is not completely pure and will use anything that's there
<abbradar> and if this "there" is for different Qt version -- boom
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<fresheyeball> abbradar: well I tried to fix this by adding qt5.full to my configuration.nix since qt57.full is no longer there
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<abbradar> niksnut: I had this, it can be solved by removing anything qt-related from your environment
<abbradar> fresheyeball: try removing it
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<fresheyeball> abbradar: ok I will try that
<fresheyeball> but it the error leads me to the opposite conclusion
<shlevy> domenkozar: Any chance you can test https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/457 ?
<niksnut> abbradar: in my case the problem was that krita was installed via nix-env and so didn't match some plugins in /run/current-system
<abbradar> fresheyeball: it's actually a segfault inside Qt that comes to this
<abbradar> niksnut: should be okay by itself if you only have input plugins
<domenkozar> shlevy: yeah I'll do that ASAP
<fresheyeball> shlevy: Hi!
<abbradar> I had qtEnv installed and spent a day in strace :D
<abbradar> ttuegel tries hard to get rid of those impurities but we aren't there still
<shlevy> fresheyeball: Hey :)
<abbradar> fresheyeball, niksnut: related: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24133
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<Ralith> impure Qt plugin loading seems like a recurring source of problems
<Ralith> good to hear that it's being worked on
<abbradar> Ralith, yeah, that's a hornet's nest
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<niksnut> it seems inelegant to make Qt depend on GTK
<abbradar> niksnut: wanted to open an issue about this. not sure what can we do about it though
<abbradar> without it Qt applications look ugly on GTK desktops and loading it at runtime from environment seems... bad
<niksnut> yeah, no good solutions here
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<pi3r> Adding an extra channel as root would break overlays defined in user space ? http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/lqYCtkvL?nix
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 6c5128c Volth: kernel: fix 9p issues...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #24586: Add BAP to nixpkgs (master...bap) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24586
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] michalrus opened pull request #24631: sqlint: init at 0.1.4 (master...sqlint) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24631
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pbogdan closed pull request #24602: gmtp: fix the `Using the 'memory' GSettings backend` issue. (master...gmtp) https://git.io/vSBt9
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<Isorkin> Hi. Please help to fix script - http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/2Wd0yPnR?nix error build
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<dash> Isorkin: what's the problem?
<Isorkin> I do not know how to run build.sh in the section preBuild
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<gchristensen> clever: are you around?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch closed pull request #24626: modules/searx: fix configFile type (master...searx-types) https://git.io/vS0lI
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a1e6176cbf3b38cf2ecc8f1543d6c562f509a144
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a1e6176 Profpatsch: modules/searx: fix configFile type
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/a1e6176cbf3b...67142c58c4f2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master aefb967 Tim Steinbach: docker: 17.03.0 -> 17.03.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 67142c5 Tim Steinbach: Merge pull request #24619 from NeQuissimus/docker_17_03_1...
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<gchristensen> when calling `nix-env -iA git` as a regular user and NIX_REMOTE=daemon, it works. when calling nix-env -iA git as root and NIX_REMOTE not set, I get "download-from-binary-cache.pl: still waiting for ‘https://cache.nixos.org/sbbch89fm7hhw8xfffbf6jfzyi3692ik.narinfo’ after 5 seconds..." has anyone seen this before, or have ideas on what might be the issue?
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<disasm> Anyone using gnome3 + i3? Trying to figure out the right command to exit back to login screen. If I do i3-msg exit it just quits i3 and all the apps keep running.
<Ralith> how are you launching i3?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus opened pull request #24632: [WIP] docker-edge: init at 17.04 (master...docker_17_04) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24632
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<disasm> Ralith: lightdm
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<Ralith> lightdm is a package
<disasm> working my way down the rabbit hole... in lightdm the session launched has this for the exec:
<disasm> Exec=/nix/store/5pcp4k32lvmsm53k5cdbbfjx5qk9vx2d-xsession 'gnome3 + i3'
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3f023c8 Shea Levy: nix-plugins: 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vSEvK
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 10ab187 Shea Levy: nix-plugins: 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] xNWDD opened pull request #24633: gitkraken: 2.2.1 -> 2.3.1 (master...gitkraken/2.3.1) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24633
<disasm> Ralith: if it helps http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/yDr6sSi7 but basically just enabling lightdm i3 and gnome while disabling all the extra gnome stuff I don't want.
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<disasm> a ps shows this: /nix/store/86blj9iqyxwmdgkn3dyrpib1gkbmz91v-bash-4.4-p5/bin/bash /nix/store/5pcp4k32lvmsm53k5cdbbfjx5qk9vx2d-xsession gnome3 + i3
<Ralith> what's the xsession script look like?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #24607: Fix consul version being "unknown-unknown". Fixes #24606. (master...fix-24606-consul-version-unknown) https://git.io/vSB94
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/3f023c8989ff...ffea5e10d7f3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b03013c Niklas Hambüchen: Fix consul version being "unknown-unknown". Fixes #24606....
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ffea5e1 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #24607 from nh2/fix-24606-consul-version-unknown...
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<stepcut> how can I created a shell.nix that uses haskell.packages.ghc802.ghcWithPackages and haskell.packages.ghcjs.ghcWithPackages so that both ghc and ghcjs are available?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/aed302a1ab20d8e7d0a0a1c9ba7f8205a5fe6b9c
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 aed302a Niklas Hambüchen: Fix consul version being "unknown-unknown". Fixes #24606....
<Ralith> disasm: looks like you need to exit via gnome-session, instead of terminating i3
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos opened pull request #24634: luksroot: Wait for the header (device) to appear (master...luksroot) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24634
<stepcut> nm.
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<disasm> Ralith: I tried running gnome-session-quit and gnome-session-quit --logout as well and those did nothing.
<Ralith> I have no idea how gnome-session works, I use bare i3
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<ashkitten> oh oops wrong channel
<Ralith> all I can tell you is that script will only terminate when gnome-session does
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #24635: modules/fontconfig/ultimate: preset remove warning (master...fontconfig-ultimate-preset-remove) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24635
<disasm> Ralith: yeah... I'd much rather do that, lol (my dedicated desktop and my old macbook air run i3 native) :) but I couldn't get this stupid macbook retina display to look okay in all apps without launching it via gnome :(
<pxc> is there any reason to use camelCase in Nixpkgs anymore, ever? will anything bad happen to me for using dashes everywhere?
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<disasm> Ralith: anyways, sounds like this is more of a i3 question than nixos at this point.
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<pxc> also, j/w: how many in the room use vim_configurable?
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<Ralith> disasm: no, I think it's a gnome-session question
<Ralith> i3's just doing what you tell it to
<disasm> ah, ok
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<Ralith> as a short-term hack I imagine you can simply kill gnome-session manually
<pxc> also: can we ever use overrideAttrs in nixpkgs or is that Bad™?
<gchristensen> I think it is Bad
<pxc> gchristensen: the specific case I'm looking at is producing something like vim_configurable for the fish shell. I'm part way done already
<pxc> gchristensen: in vim_configurable there's this makeCustomizable function that gets called (it's in the vimUtils package)
<pxc> gchristensen: but I can't figure out what is different about it from makeOverridable
<pxc> gchristensen: it just adds a function that merges attrs into an existing package, called customize instead of override, but I don't see why performance should be better
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<pxc> gchristensen: maybe I'm jumping the gun with the question. Do you think I should just go forward until I have something working and wait until code review to really ask it? lol
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<gchristensen> yes
<gchristensen> get it working then if someone has a problem with it, they can probably help you get it right :)
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<pxc> gchristensen: thanks. it's hard to stay focused on getting the thing done with all the questions of design that are raised by the flexibility of Nix itself
<pxc> lol
<gchristensen> plow forward, look at the mess you've made, and make it better :P
<gchristensen> is my general approach
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<ambro718> What happened to Akregator package?
<mojjo> hi! anybody knows what could cause `top` to spit out this very unpretty `*** buffer overflow detected ***: top terminated` message. the whole msg including backtrace is is here: https://pastebin.com/6RZfe5K8
<ambro718> a buffer overflow?
<ambro718> problem is no debug symbols are available so the backtrace is not really for much use
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<mojjo> yeah.. but, I'm having this since some weeks, so it must be some general problem on my system...
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<mojjo> ambro718: what do you mean by debug symbols?
<ambro718> mojjo: information that would let you see source files and line numbers in the backtrace.
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<ambro718> let me check how to get it
<mojjo> ambro718: nice, thank you..
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<ambro718> mojjo: build it with this: /nix/store/6vf0g5fn5z5qs6n2rgnd636ddig8nxir-procps-3.3.11-debug
<ambro718> sorry
<ambro718> nix-build -E '(((import <nixpkgs>){}).procps.overrideAttrs (oldAttrs: {separateDebugInfo = true;})).debug' -o ~/procps-debug
<ambro718> oops remove .debug at the end
<mojjo> alright, wait. have not done it yet..
<ambro718> so: nix-build -E '(((import <nixpkgs>){}).procps.overrideAttrs (oldAttrs: {separateDebugInfo = true;}))' -o ~/procps-debug
<ambro718> if you don't have gdb, install gdb
<ambro718> then: gdb ~/procps-debug/bin/top
<ambro718> run
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<ambro718> hm this isn't enough, gdb doesn't find the right debug infos. Can someone say what to do?
<ambro718> this should just work damn!
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<mojjo> building gdb...
<mojjo> ok. but the build command you suggest gives me: `error: attribute ‘overrideAttrs’ missing, at (string):1:2`
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<ambro718> hm this works for me
<ambro718> are you using old nixpkgs
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<ambro718> I got it to work for me, gdb loading the right debug info.
<mojjo> actually that's one thing I have not a good overview yet on nix: versions. how would I find out which nixpkgs version I'm using?
<ambro718> you use channels?
<ambro718> you can see what you are following at least with nix-channel --list
<sphalerite> pxc: I use vim_configurable I think
<ambro718> mojjo: maybe the real issue you use old broken version
<mojjo> ambro718: In my configuration.nix I have: system.autoUpgrade.channel = "https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-stable"; And auto update enabled.
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<ambro718> this doesn't seem to exist
<ambro718> if you look at https://nixos.org/channels/
<mojjo> ha, interesting.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 opened pull request #24637: [WIP] gcc: include dylibs for darwin build (master...darwin-gcc) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24637
<mojjo> I might have seen the unstable url and just changed it to stable one day.. without knowing that it does not exist..
<mojjo> So I'll change it to: https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-16.09
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<mojjo> (not ready for gorilla yet :-)
<mojjo> it did not do an update after rebuilding. can I force it to do it now?
<ambro718> mojjo: use nix-channel command
<mojjo> ah. ok!
<ambro718> I really don't know dow this autoUpgrade works
<ambro718> set the right channel first then nix-channel --update
<mojjo> I guess it just runs at a certain time a day..
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<mojjo> ... `error: unable to download ‘https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-stable/nixexprs.tar.bz2’: HTTP response code said error (22)`
<mojjo> ah, because there was another (wrong) channel in there
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<mojjo> ambro718: Alright, it's updated. top does still the same and the build expression doesn't compile... on which channel are you?
<ambro718> mojjo: I'm using 17.03 (not channel but release-17.03 branch on git)
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<Ralith> don't build your system from git
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<ambro718> I'll do whatever I want to do :)
<ambro718> Yes I know there's some chance I get a broken bootloader or such, but I suppose with release branches it's not so likely
<mojjo> I have no idea, maybe the overrideAttrs is new...
<ambro718> mojjo: you need overrideDerivation instead, let me check...
<Ralith> the unit tests exist for a reason
<Ralith> they run after commits are merged to the branch
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<ambro718> mojjo: try this: nix-build -E 'let pkgs = (import <nixpkgs>){}; in (pkgs.lib.overrideDerivation pkgs.procps (attrs: {outputs = attrs.outputs or ["out"] ++ ["debug"]; buildInputs = attrs.buildInputs ++ [<nixpkgs/pkgs/build-support/setup-hooks/separate-debug-info.sh>];}))' -o ~/procps-debug
<ambro718> what a mess...
<mojjo> nice, that does it
<mojjo> I think you could have used `with import <nixpkgs> {}; (lib.overrideDerivation....`
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<ambro718> right
<ambro718> now run: gdb ~/procps-debug/bin/top
<mojjo> `with` puts an attrSet completely into the namespace of the next expression, hence the pkgs prefix is not needed further.
<ambro718> check what it says about loading debug symbols
<mojjo> oh, unfortunately: Reading symbols from /home/m/procps-debug/bin/top...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
<ambro718> ah, you need to run the ugly command again but add .dev at the end of the nixexpr
<ambro718> )).dev' -o
<ambro718> no it's .debug
<pxc> sphalerite: messaged you in the wrong channel before lol
<mojjo> aha, interesting. never done this. would I delete ~/procps-debug before?
<pxc> tmux det
<ambro718> no leave both
<ambro718> mojjo: now do this: 1) run gdb (no args) 2) set debug-file-path ~/procps-debug-debug/lib/debug 3) file ~/procps-debug/bin/top
<mojjo> ok, done
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<mojjo> so the 2nd step inside the gdb repl?
<ambro718> yes
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<mojjo> 2) No symbol table is loaded. Use the "file" command.
<ambro718> sorry, set debug-file-directory ...
<mojjo> ok, success
<ambro718> 3) works and loads debug symbols?
<mojjo> yeah, "reading symbols" ... "done."
<ambro718> now you can "run"
<mojjo> runs nicely
<mojjo> (no errors)
<sphalerite> pxc: just saw, haha. Not particularly, I don't customise my shell very strongly
<ambro718> does it also run nicely outside of gdb
<ambro718> if you just run ~/procps-debug/bin/top
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<mojjo> yes!
<railswalker> silly question, but how can I override the choice of desktopmanager for each user?
<railswalker> my /etc/nixos/configuration.nix has kde5 set, but i'd like a specific user to use xmonad
<ToxicFrog> The default choice, you mean? Because generally you can change that on the login screen.
<dash> railswalker: you can pick at login
<ambro718> mojjo: then you probably didnt't update your system
<ambro718> update to the latest 16.09
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<ToxicFrog> I'm not sure it's possible to change the default per-user, but you can always just install both and select xmonad for that user at login and the setting should stick.
<ambro718> (nixos-rebuild boot)
<ambro718> and reboot when its done
<mojjo> I did update before. but it was amazingly fast, just changed 2 symlinks..
<railswalker> i was trying to use ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix to set a per-user setting but that didn't work
<mojjo> well ok, I'll reboot
<ToxicFrog> railswalker: see what dash and I said above
<railswalker> okay, i'll try that
<railswalker> thanks
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<ericnoan> hmm my bash $PS1 has \[\] in it for some reason
<mojjo> ambro718: after rebuild and reboot top is still the same... I'm wondering how I could verify if my system is actually up to date..
<ambro718> mojjo: which top
<mojjo> the normal `top` command
<ambro718> run that
<mojjo> ah, ok...
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<ambro718> maybe you have it installed in a user profile
<railswalker> ToxicFrog: I enabled both, now I see 5 options in my sddm display manager. "none + xmonad" "plasma5+xmonad" "plasma5" "xterm+xmonad" and "xterm". But no matter which I choose, I still only get kde
<railswalker> actually if I choose xterm, there is a tiny terminal in the top left corner
<ma9e> how do i make my environment visible to scripts that i run? i have a script that says it can't find sed, uname, etc because its PATH is like /usr/bin:/bin
<mojjo> ambro718: ..it points finally to ....hwk86-busybox-1.24.2/bin/top
<ambro718> mojjo: it points to where first?
<ambro718> anyway that's busybox top
<Ralith> ma9e: fix your scripts to not hardcode PATH
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<mojjo> first it points to /run/current-system/sw/bin/top
<ma9e> Ralith, i mean i'll check to see if that's done somewhere but it doesn't seem to be a the case. is it expected to inherit my PATH otherwise?
<Ralith> that is how the shell works, yes
<ambro718> mojjo: just add procps to your environment.systemPackages
<ambro718> for whatever reson the top in busybox is broke
<ma9e> okay i did find it. i'm sorry i keep coming here with the dumbest questions. nixos is just making me question everything
<mojjo> ambro718: it is in there, but busybox as well
<dash> ma9e: it's a funny feeling, isn't it
<ambro718> mojjo: I don't know how this works, maybe you need to make sure it is after busybox
<ambro718> otherwise, remove busybox
<mojjo> ok, i'll try
<ambro718> I think it's a bad idea to have busybox there
<Ralith> ma9e: don't worry about it; everyone hadh to learn these things at some point
<Ralith> had*
<ma9e> thanks guys :)
<dash> ma9e: the general solution to "how does my program/script find the things it needs" is "write a nix expr that provides them for it"
<dash> ma9e: it's a virtualenv/npm/rvm kind of tool for everything
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<mojjo> ambro718: removing busybox works, placing it after procps has no effect. But yeah, at least I'm having a good idea now where the problem comes from. and, the most important: an running top command again.
<mojjo> ambro718: thanks for the help. once again: nixos=great community support!
<ambro718> no problem
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<clever> gchristensen: i am now
<ma9e> so is there a nice way to fix "#!/bin/bash" shebangs or do i have to submit a pull request to poky? all of their wrapper scripts use #!/bin/bash :( :(
<clever> dash, gchristensen: yeah, not-os just uses an arm build slave to handle things
<clever> ma9e: does running patchSheBangs on the dir with the script fix it?
<ma9e> clever, i didn't know about that, will look into it. thanks!
<pxc> ericnoan: that sometimes happens with nested nix-shells, but idk why it would be happening in general lol
<ericnoan> pxc: screwed up some enviroment values
<pxc> ericnoan: figured it out?
<ericnoan> pxc: yeah, im trying to use environment.variables but it screws with the environment somehow and adds \[\] after every stdout
<ericnoan> if i remove the config, it goes away
<philipp[m]> What keys does nix use when querying ssh caches?
<clever> philipp[m]: if your using nix-daemon, then it will probably use the root keys
<pxc> ericnoan: I've never used environment.variables to configure my shell before. Since you're using a POSIX shell, you might try modifying them in the nixos options environment.shellInit or programs.bash.shellInit instead
<ericnoan> pxc: alright, thanks
<dash> clever: my other plan was just to use qemu to run builds in an arm environment with a lot more ram than on the board
<pxc> ericnoan: maybe you want programs.bash.promptInit?
<clever> dash: you can also use qemu-user for most builds
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<ericnoan> pxc: i want to set EDITOR, SHELL and BROWSER
<clever> dash: with this, you can run unmodified arm ELF files on an x86 machine
<wak-work> clever: qemu-user is SLOW though
<wak-work> having used it before for nix building arm
<clever> dash: and if you use the nix on line 10 then you can tell nix-daemon about that
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<clever> wak-work: slower then native, yeah, but i believe its faster then emulating an entire arm, kernel&all
<wak-work> clever: probably
<dash> clever: oh ho, interesting.
<wak-work> clever: but it's like 10x overhead
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<clever> dash: but xargs has some issues under qemu-user, so you need a full vm or native to get some things like a kernel done
<dash> wak-work: better than what i was trying to do before :)
<wak-work> clever: even a cheap A57x4 box would be faster than a dual socket x86 machine running qemu-user
<wak-work> yeah i just have native arm boxes for this
<clever> wak-work: probably, but your more likely to have half a dozen x86 machines just idling
<wak-work> meh
<wak-work> i'd rather use the power for something more efficient
<clever> depends on how fast you want things and how much power your willing to waste
<pxc> ericnoan: doing all that should be safe :-\ why the hell is it messing with $PS1?
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<bennofs> ericnoan: that sounds like terminfo problems. check TERM and TERMINFO (or TERMINFO_DIRS=
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<mojjo> There's the list option services.mysql.initialDatabases. Say there would be several individually defined units on a server, each defined in a file/function and each having to register it's database scheme in there. How could this be designed? a deep merge with // in the server's main expression would not do because there would be no concatenation happen on the lists..
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<clever> mojjo: the biggest problem i have seen with the design of services.mysql.initialDatabases is that it can only ever run once, when /var/lib/mysql doesnt exist yet
<clever> mojjo: so if you ever add another thing to that option down the road and nixos-rebuild switch, it wont do what you expec
<clever> t
<mojjo> clever: ah, ok.. I was about to try this out. so it's not the declarative thing I was hoping for..
<clever> mojjo: and there is no type set on the option, so nixos will concat each list from every module
<clever> it can declaratively join all the modules up
<clever> but it will only init the mysql engine once, so you would need to blow away /var/lib/mysql to make it re-init and use the new list
<mojjo> clever: ok..
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<clever> it would probably be better to make your own thing that will check for the existance of /var/lib/mysql/foo and then create the foo db if it doesnt exist
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<ericnoan> pxc: no idea, you can try to replicate it: https://git.io/vSEVA (not my code)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #24559: mtools: fix build on darwin (master...mtools-darwin) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24559
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<railswalker> I want to apply a patch from a pull request to my existing nix setup (since it isn't accepted yet); how do I do that?
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<clever> railswalker: there is currently no way to override a nixos module, your only option is to checkout a copy of nixpkgs
<clever> railswalker: either checkout the same revision nix-channel is using and manualy apply the change, or just checkout the version in the pr
<clever> and then run nixos-rebuild switch -I nixpkgs=/home/clever/nixpkgs/
<railswalker> clever: awesome, thanks for the help
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<gchristensen> has anyone made gnome's keyring work on i3?
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<ndowens08> hey
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