<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23312: Discount (master...discount) https://git.io/vyYXf
<shanemikel>
So, I updated nixpkgs unstable channel, and I ran into some build problems with my haskell stuff. I've been keeping track of the Nixpkgs versions, and before I updated it was 17.03pre99245.78c68f2
<shanemikel>
In Nixpkgs it says that's the "svn revision", is there a way to git the git commit from that?
<shanemikel>
Also, is it possible to unroll updates to Nixpkgs without, say downloading an old commit and replacing it manually, or just switching to the git repo?
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<shanemikel>
yeah, I see that version of nixpkgs in my /nix/store
<shanemikel>
oh... I just figured it out.
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<clever>
shanemikel: 78c68f2 is the git revision it came from
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyYM8
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 5e074f1 Nikolay Amiantov: postgresql: remove redundant static libraries
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyYME
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ab6d358 Joachim Fasting: openisns: fix empty lib output...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shanemikel closed pull request #22156: Add a script that "diffs" nix environment generations (master...master) https://git.io/vMhqJ
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<k0001>
Is there an ubuntu package for installing Nix system-wide?
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<k0001>
With nix-daemon running as a system service and all, I mean.
<clever>
i usualy just modify the single-user install from the curl command
<clever>
you just need to setup some build users in the nixbld group, chown 0:0 -R /nix/store, run nix-daemon as a service, and set NIX_REMOTE=daemon in the env
<clever>
when nix-daemon picks a target build user, it will kill off every process in that uid, so they have to be new users, not people who will be using nix
<smw_>
clever: this is my first real thing with nix. I tried nix long ago and never managed to make a working system I would use. Now I have an rpi3 and thought "I should try nixos again".
<smw_>
clever: I have the strong suspicion I have bitten off more than I can chew
<clever>
heh, when i started out with nixos, i made a uSD card that could boot on both x86-64, and armv6
<clever>
it used the same rootfs and nix store for both
<smw_>
heh
<clever>
the key, is that each platform used a different bootloader, so they used different builds of nixos from the store
<clever>
after that, its just making sure one arch doesnt try to GC the other arch
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<smw_>
my goal is to make an htpc and nixos seems like a good choice of OS for that. I am starting to wish I had gotten some sort of x86 board :-P
<clever>
main issue on arm right now is the lack of binary cache support
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<clever>
armv6 and armv7 are easy, because you can just boot rasbian, build nix from source, and then let nix build everything in nixpkgs
<gchristensen>
guh I need to bootstrap an armv8 node so it can be part of hydra embarrassed.jpg
<clever>
but aarch64 is harder, because there is less aarch64 support
<smw_>
ouch, I think I am building for aarch64 right now
<gchristensen>
is that armv8?
<clever>
smw_: what does uname -a say?
<smw_>
armv7l
<clever>
ah, i believe thats still a 32bit kernel
<smw_>
but I told it to build for .platforms.aarch64-multiplatform
<smw_>
that is... but the hardware is 64bit
<smw_>
so I am building 64 bit system.
<smw_>
Do you think I should change the platform and start over?
<clever>
yeah, but you will need at least a 64bit kernel and a 64bit bootstrap tools to start 64bit builds
<hodapp>
tried to add "DefaultEncryption Never" to services.printing.extraConf because CUPS forces me to an HTTPS page, which of course doesn't work, but NixOS is completely ignoring this configuration for some reason
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<globin>
Criena[m]: slated for March 30th
<Criena[m]>
globin: Thanks!
<mbrgm>
is there a reason why elasticsearch, logstash, kibana are still on the 1.x.y/2.x.y versions? is this for some kind of lts or licensing reasons or is it just that noone has done upgrading yet?
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<globin>
mbrgm: probably nobody has updated them
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyOs5
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master cd912b1 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23318 from ndowens/ioping...
<makefu>
mbrgm: what globin says
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<the-kenny>
anyone else noticed problems with dhcpcd in master as of yesterday? I had to boot an old version of nixos as it kept resetting my network connection
<the-kenny>
(which is unfortunate in a play of civilization 5)
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<ibrahims>
hello people,
<ibrahims>
how can i reload nginx with `nginx -s reload` without using systemctl ?
<ibrahims>
when i do `${pkgs.nginxMainline}/bin/nginx -s reload` it tries to use the default configuration and fails miserably.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat created staging-17.03 (+11 new commits): https://git.io/vyOZR
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging-17.03 720fa09 Vladimír Čunát: findutils: fixup sandboxed build after #23152...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging-17.03 52bed07 Franz Pletz: utillinux: 2.29 -> 2.29.2 for CVE-2017-2616...
<ibrahims>
since i don't have access to the configuration file the systemd uses, i couldn't find a way to reload after an included configuration file changes. any suggestions?
<clever>
ibrahims: why dont you have access to the systemd config file?
<mbrgm>
clever: I guess he's speaking of the nginx config file generated by the nginx module
<mbrgm>
ibrahims: is there a reason why you need to avoid systemd?
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<the-kenny>
I think he's talking about including a non-nix managed file in his nginx conf
<the-kenny>
ibrahims: I think you can send SIGHUP to the nginx process
<ibrahims>
well, there is no particular reason but i'm simply avoiding out of ignorance. and the program that generates the unmanaged nginx conf just tries to use nginx binary for checking if the newly generated is valid.
<ibrahims>
so i thought if i can create a wrapper around the binary with the generated configuration it would all work out.
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<ibrahims>
maybe i can parse the nginx unit file and get the execstart line out of it?
<ibrahims>
that seems like it can work but too much hackish.
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<ibrahims>
acme handles it beautifully, by setting a timer and using postStop hook.
<ibrahims>
but i need to listen on a http stream for changes. which makes things a bit convoluted.
<ibrahims>
or, i can just create a frequent timer that would try reloading nginx constantly. would that count as allright?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #23327: lilyterm-git: init at 2017-01-06 (master...lilyterm-git) https://git.io/vyOWK
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Ekleog opened pull request #23328: openldap module: fix paths for example includes (master...ldap-example-fix) https://git.io/vyO8Q
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyO4c
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 150796d Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'staging'
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<unlmtd[m]>
if atom doesnt have git in buildInputs, then that would explain why git plugins dont work right?
<qknight>
unlmtd[m]: which git plugins?
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<qknight>
unlmtd[m]: 'atom' in theory could also try to run 'git' on a shell then it wouldn't require git in buildInputs but instead it would require that systemPackages = [ ... git ];
<hodapp>
Ralith: oddly enough, printing works fine on my laptop, but on this print server after I had so much trouble getting it to *share* the printer such that other things could see it, I deleted the printer from CUPS to try to re-add it
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] teh opened pull request #23332: pandas: Mark broken in i686.See #23253. (master...zbf-pandas) https://git.io/vyOMZ
<hodapp>
and now - despite a reboot and power-cycling the printer - CUPS just refuses to see the printer, even though 'lsusb' shows it.
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<hodapp>
might just have to grab my configuration.nix, nuke the box, and reinstall NixOS
<hodapp>
(that is: printing works fine on my laptop if I plug the printer in directly)
<DutchWolfie>
Any info on how the Amsterdam Meetup has been?
<mojjo>
hi! I think I have some systemd problems on my nixos.. emacs daemon resists to start and I cannot reboot/shutdown as non-root anymore, getting 'failed to talk to init daemon'.. I know this is very vague, but does anyone have an idea in which direction to investigate?
<peterhoeg>
shlevy: I noticed that a few days ago as well but simply forgot to report it.
<shlevy>
It's confusing, the compressManPages function is supposed to ignore man pages already ending in .gz
<gchristensen>
I think vcunat maybe fixed it in the past couple days
<shlevy>
Lemme see if that regex works :D
<gchristensen>
ok wtf
<shlevy>
Yeah the regex does work :/
<dtzWill>
I ran into the double-gzip manpages bit a few days ago and someone had a PR or fix already posted, hmm
<ibrahims>
clever: the-kenny: thanks! i modified the daemon to send a sighup to the pid in /var/spool/nginx/logs/nginx.pid. i had to remove the check config part but still. it is updating gracefully. appreciate your comments.
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: can you do sudo machinectl shell .host
<shlevy>
there's dontGzipMan
<gchristensen>
I can't build nixos/security so I reverted that PR ^ and then I _can_ build nixos/security, then I unreverted that PR, and now it doesn't cause a rebuild of nixos/security
<gchristensen>
this is the caching problem, lnl
<shlevy>
But that seems to be hiding the issue
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: after that, what happens if you simply try systemctl
<gchristensen>
this seems massive, something isn't correctly breaking the cache
<shlevy>
I was testing the current nixpkgs but my erro rwas in an old build :D
<dtzWill>
related: +1 for a 17.03 channel for easier testing :) (and so my system converges back to stable instead of running with unstable :))
<fpletz>
uwap: not sure, maybe there is a rake task? you mean the rails shell?
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<dtzWill>
or 17.03-staging or w/e
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: I'm getting 'Failed to start emacs.service: Unit emacs.service not found.' both when trying as root/normal user
<michaelpj>
has anyone tried packaging the "new" skype for linux alpha that basically wraps the web version? The old desktop version is apparently EOL, and video calling doesn't work any more
<peterhoeg>
but how about a regular systemctl call. Do you get a list of units?
<dtzWill>
shlevy: I don't think it's fixed yet--at least not on nixos-unstable
<peterhoeg>
michaelpj: I just use web.skype.com in chrome although I'm not sure if it does video.
<hodapp>
okay, this boggles my mind a little. I nuked every CUPS state directory I could find and this crap *still* persists.
<michaelpj>
hm, I'm sure I tried the web version at some point and it wasn't great
<hodapp>
first rebooting, next nuking the entire box.
<hodapp>
this is stupid.
<michaelpj>
I guess if the "new" version just wraps the web client it's not going to be much better
<gchristensen>
LnL: I think the problem is hiding behind this depsSha256
<peterhoeg>
michaelpj: it's not great, true, but the desktop version was horrific...
<dtzWill>
(ah it looks to be in nixpkgs-master, don't mind me)
<hodapp>
unless there's some CUPS state directory that would survive me nuking everything in /var with 'cups' in the name, as well as me disabling printing altogether and doing nixos-rebuild switch.
<hodapp>
don't know where else its state would be stored.
<dtzWill>
hodapp: /etc/cups/printers.conf
<LnL>
gchristensen: this is with the daemon (on darwin) and I don't think sandboxing changes that
<shlevy>
dtzWill: I run on git :)
<dtzWill>
hodapp: just searched my system with cups-enabled, and for me that file isn't a symlink into the store--and IIRC I had to do some non-Nix post-switch setup for printer config so that makes sense
<hodapp>
dtzWill: nothing in /etc/cups was retained, but I see no printers.conf there either
<dtzWill>
hodapp: oh, was gonna suggest all of /etc/cups as well hehe, darn.
<uwap>
fpletz: yes. the rails shell. today I accidentally turned sign in off on a test system. Turns out that the rails shell is the only way to turn it on again.
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: And I did rebuild/switch successfully after adding 'services.emacs.enable = true'
<gchristensen>
LnL: it does: cat: /tmp/foo: No such file or directory
<hodapp>
about ready to just take an aluminum bat and go Office Space on this fucking printer.
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: you do have dbus running as a user instance?
<mojjo>
how can I figure out?
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: the easiest way to make sure it starts automatically: services.dbus.socketActivated = true;
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<peterhoeg>
you can use ps to check if the daemon is running (there is also a system instance), so you should have one running as you as well
<unlmtd[m]>
yea must have been a fluke
<dtzWill>
hodapp: what problem are you having, anyway? Can't reset cups back to how it acted when you first installed it?
<dtzWill>
and yeah printers are often painful :(
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* LnL
waiting for build slots...
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: sounds like a good path, I had some dbus errors at some other places. however after adding the suggested line/rebuild/switch, I'm still getting the same...
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: you will probably have to reboot as all your GUI program will be seriously confused when dbus either comes or goes.
<peterhoeg>
GUI programs
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<mojjo>
peterhoeg, alright, I'll do so.
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<LnL>
I'm not familiar with the rustPackages infrastructure
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<mojjo>
peterhoeg: unfortunately it's still the same after reboot. journalctl -u emacs.service gives me: "emacs.service: Service lacks both ExecStart= and ExecStop= setting. Refusing."
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: but at least the service is now recognized
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: actually not - when doing "systemctl start emacs.service" I'm still getting "Failed to start emacs.service: Unit emacs.service not found."
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyOHP
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b8812df Michael Raskin: profanity: 0.5.0 -> 0.5.1
<LnL>
gchristensen: that's a short list :)
<gchristensen>
LnL: super! :D
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: how about systemctl --user as yourself?
<peterhoeg>
Do you get a proper list of units?
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: "Failed to start emacs.service: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1
<mojjo>
See user logs and 'systemctl --user status emacs.service' for details."
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: just "systemctl --user" with no other args
<mojjo>
ah ok.. wait
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<mojjo>
"Failed to list units: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1"
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<peterhoeg>
mojjo: do you see dbus running if you use ps ? and what is the output of echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
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<mojjo>
peterhoeg: the latter is "unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-oDw9PvBNS0,guid=51083990f7f8d5bb4d75b76758b6d0ed;unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-am9pZjDJjW,guid=e74c7012a366f7f1042a5b5558b6d0ed
<mojjo>
"
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: "ps | grep dbus" gives me 3 entries
<peterhoeg>
mojjo: that's definitely not right. which desktop environment are you running?
<mojjo>
xmonad
<peterhoeg>
then there's something odd going on with the launch scripts
<peterhoeg>
how many "dbus --session" instances do you see running as yourself?
<peterhoeg>
there will also be a "dbus --system" but that's fine
<mojjo>
peterhoegg: yeah, there is some latency after logging in, which wasnt there..
<peterhoeg>
I'm guessing multiple instances are being loaded
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: the two later outputs came from myself/not root.
<peterhoeg>
that's it then
<mojjo>
"dbus --session" -> command not found
<peterhoeg>
if your session was using the socket activated dbus service, dbus_session_bus_address would be DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
<peterhoeg>
and you should have only one dbus --session running
<peterhoeg>
WHY the second is being spawned, I don't know
<peterhoeg>
you'll have to dig through the launch scripts
<mojjo>
what exactly do you mean by launch scripts?
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<peterhoeg>
sorry, I should have been more precise - the xsession scripts that your login manager uses to get everything up and running
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<hodapp>
dtzWill: the initial problem is that CUPS simple would not share the printer; avahi-browse showed all manners of other devices on my network broadcasting, but wouldn't show CUPS broadcasting anything, even when run on the print server itself
<hodapp>
dtzWill: and in journalctl I saw the message, "DNS-SD registration of "EPSON Stylus NX300 @ nixprint" failed: Not permitted" and could not find reference to this particular error *anywhere* online
<gchristensen>
dtzWill: have you been finding key-repeat to be a problem?
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: or maybe a rollback? I did one, but just to some days ago, maybe I should try to tollback to the first generation.
<hodapp>
dtzWill: after rebooting, power-cycling the printer, and so on, nothing changed, so I removed the printer from CUPS to try to add it again, and CUPS now is unable to see the printer (even though lsusb clearly sees a device).
<mojjo>
peterhoeg: I mean, I'm not using the system for long now, but I'm quite sure that it worked before.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vyO75
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 5888067 Michael Raskin: profanity: 0.4.7 -> 0.5.1...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vyO5e
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 9ad9a65 Michael Raskin: mcabber: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] bjornfor deleted black@2016-08-31 at 78e9bc7: https://git.io/vMy3S
<LnL>
gchristensen: ps. feel free to add me to the cc list for the roundup
<chattered>
Does it make sense to use fetchgitLocal in the default.nix of a project, and have it fetch itself?
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[nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyONz
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 080b280 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.DPutils: fix build
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<mojjo>
peterhoeg: I did some rollbacks now and found out that the problem arises exactly after a certain generation (6), the following generation was exacly when I introduced my old xmonad config to the new system...
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[nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyOxB
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master eea7819 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.gl: fix build
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[nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyOx0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 86292f5 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.gl: fix build...
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[nixpkgs] teh opened pull request #23337: Use EnvironmentFile instead of Environment in systemd units. Closes #… (master...i22829) https://git.io/vy3Le
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<sphalerite>
I want to package NLTK. But it wants some data for the tests, which needs to be downloaded separately from the library itself. If I want to get it into nixpkgs, should I just set doCheck = false or somehow try packaging the data as well?
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[nix] edolstra pushed 7 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy3qJ
<Profpatsch>
wasamasa pointed me to your #emacs question.
<Profpatsch>
Maybe that helps.
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: I figured out what I need, thanks
<Profpatsch>
I’ve been wanting to look into it for some time now.
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: I was... underwhelmed by the attitude in #emacs :D
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: You should check out nix-buffer btw
<shlevy>
Just updated it this morning
<shlevy>
Allows you to set up buffer-local environments from a nix expression, and it runs the build in the background and caches results so you don't have a long delay
<shlevy>
Just tested support for flycheck-haskell and company-ghci and it's working great :)
<Profpatsch>
YAY
<Profpatsch>
That’s what I was hoping for. Delaying until someone else fixes it. :D
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: Lemme push what I'm working on and then I'll show you how to set it up for a project that already has a cabal2nix default.nix :)
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy3O5
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0495b34 Tuomas Tynkkynen: trinity: Apply upstream commit as a patch to fix build...
<Profpatsch>
awesome
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[nixpkgs] globin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy3sq
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master fd770dd Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.OrderedBits: fix build
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a3e4321 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.rank1dynamic: fix build
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 8e1aca5 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.OrderedBits: fix build...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 d6f06f8 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.rank1dynamic: fix build...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vy3sB
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 4cbf067 Shea Levy: haskell generic-builder: Pass through the ghcEnv....
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 9a9c028 Shea Levy: Merge branch 'release-17.03' of github.com:NixOS/nixpkgs into release-17.03
<Kendos-Kenlen>
Hi :)
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<Profpatsch>
hi
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: So basically, install nix-buffer >=2.0 (from melpa), then in dir-locals.nix next to your cabal2nix default.nix do something like "let pkgs = import <nixpkgs> {}; in pkgs.nixBufferBuilders.withPackages [ (pkgs.haskellPackages.callPackage ./. {}).ghcEnv ], then do M-x nix-buffer in your haskell buffer
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<Kendos-Kenlen>
How does the "/var" folder work on NixOS ? No special behavior ?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vy3sx
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 4569de1 Tuomas Tynkkynen: trinity: Apply upstream commit as a patch to fix build...
<shlevy>
I have a nix-buffer call as advice around 'normal-mode', maybe you want to add it to prog-mode-hook or haskell-mode-hook or whatever
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: Anyway, then it will build the elisp in the background and evaluate it when it's done, if you've alredy started a ghci session you'll need to restart it (not reload), and you'll need to modify the buffer somehow to get flycheck to recheck with the new env
<Profpatsch>
shlevy: this is not related to nix-mode.el, right?
<shlevy>
Profpatsch: But once it's built once it will get eval'd immediately on calling nix-buffer (and only reevaled if the background build detects a change)
<shlevy>
Nope!
<Profpatsch>
nix-mode.el basically searches for a shell.nix or default.nix and evaluates it synchronously.
<shlevy>
Oh does it?
<shlevy>
Ew :(
<Profpatsch>
That only kind of works. :>
<Profpatsch>
I like the dir-locals.nix
<bennofs>
shlevy: what does nix-buffer do? does it set emacs-PATH like nix-shell would?
<Profpatsch>
That would be even cooler.
<Profpatsch>
And make every command in the buffer work magically.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy3nc
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b2919b4 Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.cabal-lenses: fix build
<steveeJ>
bennofs: no, I'll try that, thank you!
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nixpkgs/release-17.03 cd9edfb Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.cabal-lenses: fix build...
<hyphon81>
I made nix script for constructing OpenStack environment on NixOS and I pushed it to github. However, it is recognized it is almost javascript code. It's not cool.
<Profpatsch>
> However, it is recognized it is almost javascript code. It's not cool.
<Profpatsch>
What do you mean?
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<hyphon81>
Ah, I would like to change "javascript" to "nix". Because, I wrote nix codes and javascript codes are auto generated.
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<hyphon81>
The OpenStack WebUI "horizon" needs writable directorys when it runs. However, in Nix, the nix store shouldn't change to writable.
<steveeJ>
bennofs: it works great, thanks again!
<steveeJ>
how can I use "with" twice for two concatenated lists? e.g.: bigList = with pkgs; [ packages from pkgs ] + with masterpkgs; [ pkgs from masterpkgs ];
<steveeJ>
this example doesn't work, it's just for demonstration
<Profpatsch>
steveeJ: let l1 = with pkgs; [ packages ]; l2 = with masterpkgs; [ p2 ]; in l1 ++ l2
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<steveeJ>
Profpatsch: I don't get "let.. in" yet, thanks. does that evaluate to a statement on its own?
<Profpatsch>
let … in is just naming things locally.
<Profpatsch>
with can come after a = or : basically.
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<Dezgeg>
or add parenthesis: bigList = (with pkgs; [ packages from pkgs ]) + with masterpkgs; [ pkgs from masterpkgs ];
<simpson>
steveeJ: Yes, let-exprs are expressions.
<Profpatsch>
Dezgeg: Wait, that works?
<Profpatsch>
That’s dirty…
<Dezgeg>
or maybe other way around, can't remember
<Dezgeg>
well, everything in nix is an expression
<hyphon81>
So, I prepared files such as javascripts should be in writable directories. Those code almost occupy my codes.
<Profpatsch>
Dezgeg: assert?
<Dezgeg>
that is just an expression: assert <E>; <E>
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<Dezgeg>
sticking just 'assert true;' in a nix file is a syntax error
<steveeJ>
cool, thanks all
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<hyphon81>
I wish there are methods for changing nix store permission or home directory permission when installing pacages. Of course, I think there are no such methods now.
<Profpatsch>
Dezgeg: I see.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy34x
<pierron>
globin: For the screenshot example which is on the front page, you could write: dummy1 = { imports = [ userDefaultSettings ]; };
<hyphon81>
Because the OpenStack WebUI "horizon" needs writable directorys in it's lib when it runs. Now, I make horizon user and home directory and it is symlinked in horizon lib.
<smw>
gchristensen, you implied yesterday that you had the power to make hydra arm. May I ask what the odds of that happening actually are? What is preventing it?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy30n
<hyphon81>
I can't make code for automatic installing files for OpenStack enviroment because horizon needs writable dir in it's lib.
<simpson>
hyphon81: Hm. Yeah, this happens sometimes. Just give it a /var/db/horizon or something.
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<gchristensen>
smw: I need to bootstrap a node, that is about it I think
<gchristensen>
which means finding a time Dezgeg and I can spend a few hours working together
<gchristensen>
which is probably the most difficult part
<hyphon81>
simpson: Yes. I'm using /var/lib/horizon now.
<hyphon81>
simpson: Or, I want writable directory when I'm building packages. Perhaps, does nixbld have permission /var/db/horizon when Nix is building packages?
<gchristensen>
when nix is building packages, it can't write to anything other than its $out
<smw>
gchristensen, interesting. Where would you find the hosting?
<simpson>
hyphon81: Yikes, not really. The point of Nix is to not write to random spots on the filesystem while doing builds.
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<gchristensen>
smw: Packet.net has generously donated resources, including access to 96-core ThunderXs
<smw>
gchristensen, sweet!
<gchristensen>
indeed :) I can't recommend Packet.net enough, they're incredible
<smw>
gchristensen, I am building on an RPI3, as you can imagine, I haven't finished bootstrapping yet ;-)
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<LnL>
smw: clever might be able to help you with that
<gchristensen>
I'm not sure RPI3 is compatible with the thunderx's
<smw>
I have setup HTPCs many many times. I am hoping to finally make a single config I can reuse.
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<hyphon81>
OK, I see. I think so too. Writing random spots is not good in Nix.
<gchristensen>
smw: can you find out if the Cavium ThunderX can produce binaries for the RPI3? I can't tell.
<bennofs>
hyphon81: you can write to $TMP while building I believ
<smw>
gchristensen, I don't see why not.
<gchristensen>
I suspect it can't
<smw>
gchristensen, why?
<gchristensen>
architectural differences *shrug*
<smw>
my understanding is that armv8 is armv8 (and can do armv7l). The interesting problems occur with the kernel and handling hardware.
<hyphon81>
bennofs: Thanks. But, I need to get writable horizon lib directory after building package.
<smw>
gchristensen, a system build to run on there may not run on rpi3, but that is because of options set for the kernel and firmware in /boot, not differences in the CPU
<gchristensen>
hrm
<gchristensen>
what was rpi2?
<gchristensen>
maybe that was the issue
<bennofs>
hyphon81: hmm are you planning on running horizon inside a nix build? Because otherwise, you can use /var/lib/horizon
<smw>
rpi2 is armv7l. thunder could build for that. It probably can't build for rpi1
<smw>
gchristensen, well, I take that back, it might be able to be backwards incompatible and do that, but it certainly wouldn't be worth it.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #23270: gitflow: tweak for darwin (master...update/pkgs/applications/version-management/git-and-tools/gitflow) https://git.io/vyq1P
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<gchristensen>
O.o that branch
<LnL>
oh that's the branch name :p
<smw>
gchristensen, anyways, I imagine you could use those servers to build for all the latest boards (as in last few years) rather easily. In any case, I would be happy to test it for you assuming I can get nixos running on my rpi3 at all.
<gchristensen>
aye
<gchristensen>
I mean, hypothetically, if this did get setup we'd probably produce installers for arm
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<hyphon81>
bennofs: I made a nix option in NixOS like a "horizon.enable = true;". Then make horizon user and home directory and build package with symlink to the horizon home dir in lib.
<hyphon81>
bennofs: First, I think it is lucky the package building cause after user add and create home dir.
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<bennofs>
hyphon81: oh, so horizon needs to write to the lib dir during build? Why is that?
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<hyphon81>
bennofs: No, not during build. It needs to write during runnig. Because, horizon makes some files dinamically.
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nixpkgs/release-16.09 ab98b60 Shea Levy: haskell generic-builder: Pass through the list of haskell build inputs....
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<magnetophon>
Something in my config depends on vlc built with qt5, which is marked broken. how do I find what it is? I grepped nixpkgs for " vlc" and only found firefox as possible culprit. I commented it out, but still...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] rycee pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy3Sf
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a5ed112 Robert Helgesson: svtplay-dl: 1.9.2 -> 1.9.3
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 3373564 Robert Helgesson: perl-Log-Log4perl: 1.48 -> 1.49
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] anderspapitto opened pull request #23342: Revert "buildRustPackage: fix deprecated use of registry.index config… (master...rust-registry-index) https://git.io/vy3S2
<steveeJ>
is there an easy way to have subshells of a nix-shell behave like the nix-shell itself? if I run "bash" in a nix-shell, everything is reset
<Shell>
magnetophon: it's in the View menu, at the bottom.
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<Shell>
magnetophon: because logic.
<srhb>
Shell: afair it just crashes when it times out against the subtitle provider. Have you been able to run it stably on a different system recently?
<srhb>
(It's very, very fragile.)
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<MarcWeber>
inkscape -> export as .sfig -> who is responsible to tell python export about lxml ? Should PYTHONPATH be set?
<shanemikel>
what's the smallest "texlive-combined" package including pdflatex? and what's the size order between `basic`, `minimal`, and `small`?
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<srhb>
MarcWeber: Like I said, it works for me with just the definition, and I do not have lxml globally anywhere.
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<srhb>
shanemikel You can easily see this by going through pkgs/tools/typesetting/tex/texlive/pkgs.nix and searching for the definitions of the various "schemes" :)
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<fatherandson>
hey, I just accidentally deleted my /etc/nixos/configuration.nix, is there any way to recover it from a previous generation?
<MarcWeber>
fatherandson: find -L /run/current-system should tell you -> if you find a configuration.nix like file then yes .. there are undelete tools. But to be frank you should think about backup strategy (eg use btrfs and create snapshots by cron)
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<fatherandson>
thanks, i'll check that out. it's not that big of a deal to be honest, i'm just trying to save a bit of time, i won't mind rewriting it from scratch.
<srhb>
fatherandson: If you didn't set system.copySystemConfiguration to true, I'm afraid you're out of luck.
<fatherandson>
Oh, I'll add this next time :)
<srhb>
fatherandson: That is what provides the configuration.nix copies that MarcWeber mentioned.
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<c74d>
fatherandson: I suggest keeping your NixOS configuration in a Git repository, if you know Git, and uploading it to GitHub or GitLab
<MarcWeber>
You can also add it /etc/nixos/configuration.nix to systemPackages -> but it will not fix the "you must have a backup" problem.
<srhb>
I think harping on about backups at this point is probably the least useful or necessary time ever. :-)
<ndowens08>
how can I tell the packaging setup that the app is not contained in a folder. Getting multiple directories but the software unpacks every file in currentdir instead of name-version
<srhb>
ndowens08: Can you be more explicit on what you're doing and what you're trying to accomplish?
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<ndowens08>
srhb: sorry hard to describe; I am going through our repo, updating packages that might be abandoned
<srhb>
Ah..
<ndowens08>
anyway, this one tpm-tools does not extact to a seperate dir, it extracts all files in current dir
<ndowens08>
so causes nix-build to say there are multiple dirs and don't know which to enter, in which there is but it is already in the dir that has configure/make in it
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[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy3hV
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 8dcfa44 Tuomas Tynkkynen: memtest86: Mark as broken...
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nixpkgs/release-17.03 923aaf8 Tuomas Tynkkynen: memtest86: Mark as broken...
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<srhb>
Is there an explanation somewhere on how staging-17.03, release-17.03 and nixos-unstable tie together in this phase?
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[nixpkgs] aherrmann opened pull request #23346: blitz: switch back to boost-1.60 (master...pr_blitz) https://git.io/vysex
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[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vysvk
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nixpkgs/release-17.03 fe132d2 Joachim Fasting: openisns: fix empty lib output...
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[nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #23294: graphicsmagick: fix for darwin (master...update/pkgs/applications/graphics/graphicsmagick) https://git.io/vyYtB
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mounium opened pull request #23348: cytoscape: fixed issue with startup script (master...cytoscape) https://git.io/vysfq
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<Arguggi>
In Firefox/chromium youtube videos have no sound. mpv works fine and alsamixer says I only have 1 card and that it's the default one, any one else had similar problems?
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[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vysJH
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master fcec3e1 Vladimír Čunát: Revert "modules: add support for module replacement with disabledModules"...
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<makefu>
Arguggi: if you are using pulse, can you also check in pavucontrol ?
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<Arguggi>
makefu, i was using alsa, got bored and just installed pulse and now it seems to work, sorry for the noise (would have prefered to use alsa but whatever)
<makefu>
Arguggi: *pulse is the FUTURE* (scnr)
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<Arguggi>
makefu, I'll bother you once more, best way to change my theme? (I'm used to adwaita), can't seem to install themes and change them with lxappearance
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<tnks>
so if anyone noticed me chirping about the Hydra cache being broken for Haskell packages, I think I figured out my problem, which one could argue was user error/misunderstanding.
<tnks>
Hydra now caches ghc802 packages, but I was still pinned to ghc801.
<glines>
how does one keep a nixops deployment on EC2 up-to-date? I'm using an ami image from several years ago. Are newer images maintained somewhere?
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<LnL>
ndowens08: just FYI, it might take a bit more time for people to look at those because of the 17.03 release
<ndowens08>
LnL: may be so, but still contributing :)
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vys4M
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 05054e3 Joachim Fasting: tor: 0.2.9.9 -> 0.2.9.10...
<gchristensen>
glines: there are up to date AMIs on the nixos.org website, but nix-channel --update, upgrading to new releases when they're available, and nixos-rebuild switch is the best way to stay up to date.
<LnL>
ndowens08: yeah, definitely do just letting you know
<glines>
gchristensen: eh, the manual mentions an example ami, but according to git blame they were added about four years ago
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<glines>
I can't seem to find a list of "the latest ami"
<gchristensen>
glines: hmmm are you manually specifying an AMI?
<glines>
gchristensen: I'm re-deploying
<glines>
is manual specification not needed?
<glines>
I have an old one in my nixrc
<gchristensen>
in your nixops network.nix, are you specifying an AMI? you don't need to, it automatically picks a recent AMI appropriate for the target region.
<gchristensen>
glines: you're welcome. does it seem to be doing what you expect?
<glines>
yeah, it seems to have chosen its own ami
<gchristensen>
perfect :) glad to hear it
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: will you extend the roundup to include checking the IMs?
<LnL>
^ that's a good point
<gchristensen>
MichaelRaskin: I'd be happy to
<MichaelRaskin>
Then you need to officially object to fpletz…
<gchristensen>
what a loaded question :P
<gchristensen>
the roundups aren't necessarily beholden to LWN's list, just intended to be a way to ensure a minimum coverage
<MichaelRaskin>
My point exactly: digging up the CVE showed a few more vulnerable clients
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vys0f
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 f90e5ba Joachim Fasting: tor: 0.2.9.9 -> 0.2.9.10...
<fpletz>
MichaelRaskin: sorry, I meant the list by gchristensen
<gchristensen>
yeah, another one is the kio issue opened by ttuegel
<MichaelRaskin>
fpletz: it depends on interpretation of the list — technically, digging into details of the list leads to jitsi problem (the same as profanity, and I think I remember some difficulties with jitsi packaging in the past)
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<gchristensen>
yeah ...
<gchristensen>
I mean, this is best effort.
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<gchristensen>
if we find it, we find it, if we don't we don't. this needs to remain fun enough people keep wanting to work on it, at least until someone is paid to do this work
<fpletz>
MichaelRaskin: yeah, only using security advisories from other distributions is problematic because lots of software we package is not packaged in common distributions
<MichaelRaskin>
I do not expect NixPkgs to never miss advisories — my question was specifically about the handling of additional issues caught in the meantime
<gchristensen>
ah
<gchristensen>
no question about it, we fix them
<fpletz>
gchristensen: but editing the list would probably interfere with your script, right?
<gchristensen>
yeah, my script won't know what to do with it
<gchristensen>
but we can make a to-do list in a comment, that would help
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] cstrahan pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vysEo
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2c0225a Charles Strahan: mesos: fix build with latest gcc/glibc...
<gchristensen>
in the mean time I can start thinking about how to have non-LWN-issues in the list
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<gchristensen>
MichaelRaskin: thank you for finding the rest of those issues
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, eventually I found only one
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<MichaelRaskin>
ttuegel's catch of kio is probably larger
<gchristensen>
none the lest :)
<gchristensen>
less*
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<gchristensen>
setting up this new computer has been mucking up my schedule on these things
<gchristensen>
btw MichaelRaskin, fpletz I've semi-committed to continuing to backport patches to 16.09 for one month. any opinions on that? I'm not _real_ thrilled, but it can help
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<gchristensen>
I'm also still quite interested in a way to alert people on old channels that they're not supported anymore
<fpletz>
gchristensen: well, we should at least try to do it for one month because we don't have LTS releases (and probably never will)
<gchristensen>
not until there is real money behind that idea, anyway :)
<fpletz>
well, then we should rather increase test coverage and just don't do releases anymore because master would always be stable and tested %)
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<gchristensen>
hah
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<Acou_Bass>
eey folks, does anyone here run emacs daemon via configuration.nix using services.emacs.enable = true? im trying it, emacsclient connects to it fine however TRAMP and git modes are unable to find the sudo or git commands =\ i found a few github issues about it but they all seemed to imply that it was fixed in the actual nixpkg for it
<gchristensen>
Acou_Bass: can you link me to some of thtose issues?