<ndowens08>
it will complain if you are missing deps
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<yumbox>
yeah, it does, but it doesnt correspond to the nixos package names
<ndowens08>
use nox to search
<yumbox>
on arch i just installed qt5-base and stuff
<ndowens08>
to search for what you think it might be named
<yumbox>
what's nox?
<ndowens08>
searches for pkgs and lets you choose what to install
<yumbox>
but what is it?
<ndowens08>
it is an app availble in the repo
<yumbox>
ah
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<yumbox>
so i just install qt5.full?
<ndowens08>
you can try base for minimum
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<yumbox>
i'd rather just get it working :P
<clever>
yumbox: are you using nix-shell?
<yumbox>
dunno
<yumbox>
no?
<clever>
yumbox: you should always use nix-shell when you want to build things with nix
<yumbox>
why?
<clever>
yumbox: nix-shell -p gcc qt5.qtbase ...
<clever>
yumbox: because nix is designed to skip build-time things when you try to install stuff
<clever>
yumbox: so headers and link flags are lost if you just install it normally
<yumbox>
it compiled fine
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<yumbox>
but i dont know how to install it
<clever>
it must be compiled with nix-build if you want to install it
<clever>
nix doesnt allow manualy built things to be installed
<yumbox>
what if i install it to my home directory?
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<clever>
then nix cant track the dependencies correctly, and will delete things you depend on
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<yumbox>
it doesnt depend on anything
<clever>
it depends on glibc, ld.so and a few others
<yumbox>
ugh
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<clever>
yumbox: its usualy very easy to just write a nix package for it
<yumbox>
as easy as `make install`?
<ashkitten>
How do I get an icon theme working? I've tried a bunch of stuff (lxappearance, setting the icon path, etc) but I can't seem to get it working. What am I doing wrong?
<clever>
yumbox: almost
<spinus>
ashkitten: how you install it?
<yumbox>
ashkitten: I ran into the same problem. There's no documentation anywhere, but I did manage to find a workaround.
<ashkitten>
i should think that just restarting the display manager would work but i'll try that
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<justanotheruser>
When I run nix-build -A python3.pkgs.tensorflowWithCuda' I get error: attribute ‘python3’ in selection path ‘python3.pkgs.tensorflowWithCuda’ not found. So, I ran this command: https://hastebin.com/raw/ewohuxoleh and replaced python3.pkgs.tensorflowWithCuda with nixos.python35Packages.tensorflowWithCuda bit it gives me the same error. How do I determine which selection path to use?
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<clever>
yumbox: it may also need qt5.qmakeHook in the buildInputs
<justanotheruser>
this is in a specific env
<yumbox>
what if i just need to run it as root?
<clever>
yumbox: it wont help
<clever>
yumbox: nix always builds things as a non-root user, that cant modify things it shouldnt modify
<yumbox>
ill try anyway
<yumbox>
okay, it didnt work
<ashkitten>
yumbox: okay holy crap it worked, the last line. but only for some of the icon themes (breeze, specifically) and NOT numix-square
<ndowens08>
justanotheruser: use nox it is easier to find and install pkgs
<yumbox>
clever: okay, ill try
<ashkitten>
i'm even more confused now because it's only working for the icon themes i don't want
<justanotheruser>
ndowens08: I'm trying to find out where a package lives
<justanotheruser>
so I can run nix-store -qR $(nix-build -A python3.pkgs.tensorflowWithCuda)
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<ndowens08>
it is easier to use nox to find and install. Seems like you've had this issue for days now?
<yumbox>
clever: same error
<justanotheruser>
I'll try it
<ashkitten>
why is system.defaultChannel not documented?
<yumbox>
ashkitten: it works for all icon themes for me
<ashkitten>
yumbox: can you try installing numix-square and see if it works for that? just as a test
<yumbox>
whats the pkg name?
<ashkitten>
numix-icon-theme-square
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<bennylb>
?
<yumbox>
hmm
<yumbox>
it doesn't work
<yumbox>
it works for all other icon themes for me though
<ashkitten>
hmm
<ashkitten>
that's really odd
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<yumbox>
numix-icon-theme works
<bennylb>
Hello all
<ashkitten>
huh
<ashkitten>
well
<ashkitten>
:/
<bennylb>
Can anyone help me out with nix string concatination?
<gchristensen>
I'm sure, just ask
<bennylb>
Ok cool
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<bennylb>
I'm trying to append a string to security.pam.services.lightdm.text
<bennylb>
Essentially I want to preserve the original value of the text
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<bennylb>
Imperitively it would look something like this: stringvar = stringvar + "some other string"
<c74d>
I looked up that option with <https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#pam+services+text>, read the source of linked module, and saw that the option has the type `nullOr lines`
<c74d>
so it can be either null or "lines"
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSGrj
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 24c616c Matthew Maurer: ctypes: 0.4.1 -> 0.11.2
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 401c284 Matthew Maurer: ocaml-async_ssl: 112.24.03 -> 113.33.07
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<bennylb>
How would I do that to security.pam.services.lightdm.text?
<c74d>
bennylb: "lines" means that it can be set from multiple modules, and each module's setting for it will be appended
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<c74d>
bennylb: so if you set it in your configuration.nix module, that value will be appended to whatever other values have been set for it
<c74d>
bennylb: in conclusion, try just `security.pam.services.lightdm.text = "some other string"`
<bennylb>
Thanks c74d that's what I thought, it's just that when I do that the new string is overriding it completely
<c74d>
hm
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<bennylb>
I'll take another look at it. Appreciate the help
<c74d>
oh, I see, all the other security.pam.services.<name>.* options are only used in the default value of `text`
<c74d>
bennylb: my only thought now is to try `security.pam.services.lightdm.text = lib.mkDefault "some other string"`
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<bennylb>
I'm not yet familiar with lib.mkDefault but I'll take a look now.
<c74d>
bennylb: without lib.mkDefault, your option setting has higher priority than the default setting and so overrides it rather than being concatenated with it
<c74d>
with lib.mkDefault, it should have the same priority-- wait no
<c74d>
bennylb: with lib.mkOptionDefault (not lib.mkDefault), it should have the same priority as the default setting, and *may* no longer override it, instead being concatenated
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSGo5
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2f020cf regnat: ocamlPackages.ocf: init at 0.5.0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 4015813 regnat: ocamlPackages.xtmpl: init at 0.16.0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 89e5963 regnat: ocamlPackages.higlo: init at 0.6
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<ashkitten>
ok i'm back
<ashkitten>
crisis averted
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<benley>
anyone know what's up with ZFS not actually mounting datasets that have a mountpoint set on boot?
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<benley>
surely I don't need to spell out each of these individually in configuration.nix...?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #24460: qsyncthingtray: fix program paths (master...f/qst) https://git.io/vSG6F
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #24461: gcalcli: fix notifications on linux (master...f/gcalcli) https://git.io/vSGiz
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<spacekitteh[m]>
error: while setting up the build environment: unable to make filesystem ‘/home/spacekitteh/code’ private: No such file or directory
<spacekitteh[m]>
i fucked up my nfs mount and now i can't switch configurations :(
<spacekitteh[m]>
oh, fix that, nevermind. :B
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<spacekitteh[m]>
now to figure out how to cd into it while an ordinary user .-.
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<crzyp3ck>
hello
<crzyp3ck>
I want to add two or tree param at the end on linux line in grub. What should i do?
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<ashkitten>
Is anyone running NixOS on Ryzen? Can you give me some info about stability?
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<rimmington>
crzyp3ck: I think you can add them to boot.kernelParams in configuration.nix
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<crzyp3ck>
rimmington: I did and rebuid the switch. should I see anything changed in /boot/grun/grub.cfg?
<ashkitten>
has anyone come across this error?
<ashkitten>
** (hdajackretask:10435): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
<ashkitten>
i get that with a lot of applications (hdajackretask, pa-applet, etc)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSGMc
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 5bb5ce0 Peter Hoeg: dynamic-colors: 0.2.1 -> 0.2.2
<rimmington>
crzyp3ck: you should see a new entry
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<crzyp3ck>
rimmington: nothing
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSGyG
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0843ad1 Peter Hoeg: dynamic-colors: 0.2.2 -> 0.2.2.1
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] benley pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vSGSC
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 c15756b NWDD: add xnwdd <Guillermo NWDD> as a maintainer...
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<peterhoeg>
ashkitten: yes, you're not running gnome I presume.
<peterhoeg>
It's not really an error. Some applications expect the accessibility daemon to be at that dbus address but under !gnome, it's not there.
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<hyper_ch>
kdevelop doesn't build anymore on unstable :(
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<Filystyn>
can someone with nixos stable tell me does tor browser work for him?
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<hyper_ch>
(or her)
<Filystyn>
hue
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #24465: Get rid of all `with { inherit... }` and just used `let inherit...` (master...no-with-literal) https://git.io/vSGN9
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] mogria opened pull request #24466: projectlibre: init at 1.6.2 (master...project-libre) https://git.io/vSGN7
<hyper_ch>
hue?
<Filystyn>
yes, hue
<hyper_ch>
philips hue?
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<Filystyn>
more like single hue
<hyper_ch>
I don't understand :(
<Filystyn>
well hue is like a single laught i guess
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<hyper_ch>
I only know hue from photoshop/gimp and Philips lights
<Filystyn>
well now you know Filystyn hue
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<hyper_ch>
:)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #24465: Get rid of all `with { inherit... }` and just used `let inherit...` (master...no-with-literal) https://git.io/vSGN9
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<Filystyn>
'/join glibc
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<ertes>
can i unquote arbitrary expressions in a ''string''?
<ertes>
or just variables?
<ertes>
apparently i can use arbitrary expressions
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg closed pull request #24461: gcalcli: fix notifications on linux (master...f/gcalcli) https://git.io/vSGiz
<7JTAAV6VL>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSZU3
<7JTAAV6VL>
nixpkgs/master f67ec45 Peter Hoeg: gcalcli: fix notifications on linux...
<7JTAAV6VL>
nixpkgs/master 029c57f Peter Hoeg: Merge pull request #24461 from peterhoeg/f/gcalcli...
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<ertes>
in a nix-built container some programs (like postgresql) complain that my locales like de_DE.UTF-8 are invalid, if i set LANG
<ertes>
would do i need to add to or run in the container?
<ertes>
*what do i
<goibhniu>
is that a nixos-container ertes?
<unlmtd[m]>
im trying to build a customized neovim using master, but Im missing the trick
<unlmtd[m]>
the override is in ~/.config/nixpkgs
<unlmtd[m]>
it works with ```nix-env -iA nixos.my_nvim```
<unlmtd[m]>
but then I go ```NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=/my/nixpkgs nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -iA nixos.my_nvim``` and I get 'not found'
<ertes>
goibhniu: no, it's built via dockerTools.buildImage
<ertes>
i already tried adding glibcLocales
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<Filystyn>
you should throw out -Wunused-result from -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic no diea which one has it
<Filystyn>
irritating crap.
<Filystyn>
or this is glibc to blame duno did not have it earlier
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<FRidh>
justan0theruser: nix-build requires a .nix file. Therefore, either you point to the folder with the default.nix (e.g. a checkout of the Nixpkgs repo) or you use a channel nix-build -A python '<nixpkgs>'
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<unlmtd[m]>
so I still get 'not found'
<unlmtd[m]>
ahh I forgot -f
<unlmtd[m]>
so if I do ```nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>'``` then my overrides in ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix are ignored?
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<ertes>
i solved it: you need to point the LOCALE_ARCHIVE env-var to glibcLocales
<ertes>
thanks anyway!
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<demax>
Hey guys!
<demax>
I'm trying to run NixOS on RPi 2. Downloaded image from wiki https://nixos.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_2, but booting stuck at nice colorfull gradient
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<demax>
can I do something to fix it without accesing UART tty?
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<nico202>
Hi, my nox command died yesterday, is it broken for everyone? error: undefined variable ‘xnwdd’ at /nix/store/w68y6y7vn1pgizr10xhxwz79i7nplqlf-nixos-17.03beta773.38b2e27/nixos/pkgs/applications/version-management/gitkraken/default.nix:74:39
<nico202>
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<nico202>
ashkitten: I used it on an i3wm system. I think the relevant part of my config is export GTK2_RC_FILES=${pkgs.writeText "iconrc" ''gtk-icon-theme-name="Numix-Circle"''}
<ashkitten>
THANK YOU
<nico202>
ashkitten: in environment.shellInit
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<ashkitten>
thank you so much i'm trying that right now
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<ashkitten>
it doesn't seem to work for me but i'll try something else
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<qknight>
i want to backport (cherry-pick) a security patch for wordpress and i don't know which branch 17.03 is: origin/release-17.03 or origin/staging-17.03?
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<jascot[m]>
Dezgeg: what's the binary cache like for ARM?
<Dezgeg>
you get vim but no emacs
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSZC6
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master c1f922b Michael Raskin: asdf: add pinned versions 2.26, 3.1; provide quicklispPackages with ASDF 3.1
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 953fc6c Michael Raskin: clwrapper: better support for ensuring noninteractive execution
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 5d83ef6 Michael Raskin: quicklispPackages.iolib: try loading the system
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[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 6 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vSZ8A
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 e8515db Joachim Fasting: nixos/dnscrypt-proxy docs: reword section on forwarding...
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nixpkgs/release-17.03 4bce01f Joachim Fasting: nixos/dnscrypt-proxy: grant daemon access to load plugins...
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nixpkgs/release-17.03 5762103 Joachim Fasting: nixos/dnscrypt-proxy: replace unimportant options with extraArgs...
<shlevy>
domenkozar: It *is* horrible, but for what it's worth we can already do strictly more powerful things (see commit message in PR)
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<crzyp3ck>
guys
<crzyp3ck>
a question.
<crzyp3ck>
Why killall returns "command not ound"
<goibhniu>
hi crzyp3ck, because you don't have it installed in your profile
<domenkozar>
shlevy: before I comment I need to sleep at least once
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vSZEA
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 1052886 Joachim Fasting: rl-notes 17.03: notes about changes to torbrowser user state
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 fb614a2 Joachim Fasting: aliceml: mark as broken...
<crzyp3ck>
goibhniu: I thought I came with the linux. (how silly of me). Like always it goes without SAYING. thank you
<clever>
shlevy: :O
<goibhniu>
crzyp3ck: glad to help ... does nix tell you how to install it? (command-not-found should do that)
<hyphon81>
Why dose Hydra and OpenStack packages on NixOS 16.09 avoid to use MySQL/MariaDB? Are there some resons?
<crzyp3ck>
warning: The option `services.xserver.desktopManager.kde5' defined in `/etc/nixos/services.nix' has been renamed to `services.xserver.desktopManager.plasma5'.
<goibhniu>
hyphon81: I'm pretty sure it's because nobody bothered to add support yet
<crzyp3ck>
goibhniu: 1. is there I could find out what packages are currently installed on my system (also which are used and which are garbage?) 2.Is there a way that I could find out the difference in my system before and after nixos-rebuild (i.e view the changes. i.e what happened? )
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<goibhniu>
crzyp3ck: there are some tools like that alright, but I'm not familiar with them myself
<crzyp3ck>
goibhniu: at least could you tell me what should I ask here. What I am looking for?
<hyphon81>
goibhniu: So, a reason is lackage of maintainers...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 346fdd6 Joachim F: Merge pull request #24413 from jensbin/pidginsipe...
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<hyphon81>
I'm making codes for OpenStack Newton with NixOS. https://github.com/hyphon81/Nixtack I'm sure everybody wouldn't like to maintain OpenStack packages in nix... Of course me too...
<hyphon81>
Because, there are many dependencies of python packages for OpenStack. It is complex.
<domenkozar>
hyphon81: I packaged openstack in Nix a while ago
<domenkozar>
but not everything is upstream
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<hyphon81>
domenkozar: Oh. There isn't name of maintainer in the package's nix file of OpenStack apps. And those are old. So, it isn't maintained now. I thought.
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<domenkozar>
well they're not
<domenkozar>
lagging one release behin
<domenkozar>
d
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<hyphon81>
In addition, I would like to use GPU passthrough by Nvidia Geforce with OpenStack. So, I decided making it myself.
<hyphon81>
domenkozar: Sorry, I can't understand how does your program download OpenStack apps such as keystone, neutron... Do I misunderstand something?
<socksy>
if i call pastebin, it runs a wrapper script that claims no such file or directory
<socksy>
if i run what's in that wrapper script, it works
<socksy>
very bizarre
<gilligan_>
hrm.. i am having some problems using google-cloud-sdk on a ubuntu machine that has an /etc/boto.cfg file which sets some python path. I'm using google-cloud-sdk as a buildInput for a nix-shell command. Any ideas how I could manage to ignore this system file? ;/
<domenkozar>
aristid: it does say what it's spent on
<domenkozar>
The infrastructure for NixOS and related projects is maintained by a nonprofit organization, the NixOS Foundation. To ensure the continuity and expansion of the NixOS infrastructure, we are looking for donations to our organization.
<hyphon81>
domenkozar: But, nixpkgs use old version OpenStack apps. Will are those maintained? Or, do those stay old?
<domenkozar>
hyphon81: they are old until someone updates them
<domenkozar>
tw
<domenkozar>
meh :)
<aristid>
domenkozar: i've been donating for a while and been hoping to get some statement about the details :) i think you were involved with that stuff at some point, so i asked you
<domenkozar>
aristid: what details are you interested in? spending report?
<crzyp3ck>
there was an addon for firefox called cleanlink (till yesterday). now it is removed.
<ikwildrpepper>
aristid: domenkozar was busy creating a page for that, but I need to provide the data for the expenses
<aristid>
domenkozar: yup, and amount of contributions :)
<ikwildrpepper>
unfortunately, I got distracted by the installation of the new mac mini;s for hydra.nixos.org
<domenkozar>
aristid: yeah I started on the report
<domenkozar>
so it's all WIP
<ikwildrpepper>
any day now :D
<domenkozar>
if that helps :)
<globin>
niksnut: you around?
<aristid>
domenkozar, ikwildrpepper thx looking forward to it :)
<domenkozar>
aristid: thanks for bringing it up :)
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<aristid>
ikwildrpepper: i guess the foundation is small enough not to have to do double-entry accounting? :D
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<hyphon81>
I made codes for using new OpenStack apps. So, I know how build new versions with nix. However, I wouldn't like to maintain official nixpkgs's OpenStack apps. Because, there are many complex dependencies of python packages. XD
<domenkozar>
yes :)
<gilligan_>
folks: is there any somewhat sane way that I could hide `/etc` in a nix-shell environment?
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<ikwildrpepper>
aristid: hehe, yeah
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<domenkozar>
one day we could just pay an accountant from donations
<domenkozar>
to make ikwildrpeppers life easier
<ikwildrpepper>
domenkozar: will do when we get a lot of money :p
<domenkozar>
do it before you leave for hawaii please
<ikwildrpepper>
the data you mean? or hire an accountant? :p
<aristid>
like, at the latest at the airport while waiting for the plane to hawaii to depart :D
<domenkozar>
any, ideally both
<domenkozar>
well second implies first
<hyphon81>
OpenStack apps have many dependency, so, if make new version package, when many python applications need to update. There are big impact in Nix.
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<globin>
ikwildrpepper, domenkozar: can one of you deploy stuff and how long are you available today?
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<domenkozar>
globin: I don't have access to nixos.org
<globin>
ikwildrpepper: releasing 17.03 in a bit :)
<globin>
domenkozar: yes, but not quite ready yet
<globin>
domenkozar: still marking some stuff as broken
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<domenkozar>
awesome :) yeah you need niksnut for website updates
<globin>
ok fine :)
<hyphon81>
I think, It is easy and small impact to make nix codes for "import" at a configuration file such as configuration.nix.
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<hyphon81>
So, I made Nixtack so.
<domenkozar>
hyphon81: makes sense :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jgertm opened pull request #24473: xsv: init at 0.11.0 (master...tj/xsv) https://git.io/vSZDC
<__Sander__>
ikwildrpepper: are you still having this node2nix generation issue?
<__Sander__>
or haven't you tried the development version yet?
<ashkitten>
in my packageOverrides I want to make the preFixup for pasystray null, but it doesn't seem to be working
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin pushed 18 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSZy2
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ce953d0 Robin Gloster: panomatic: remove
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 8a18e1f Robin Gloster: quagga service: disable
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 877aaef Robin Gloster: boomerang: mark as broken
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin pushed 18 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vSZyi
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 34f34f1 Robin Gloster: panomatic: remove...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 1327728 Robin Gloster: quagga service: disable...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 f8d7f40 Robin Gloster: boomerang: mark as broken...
<hyphon81>
Actually, is it minority who want to build OpenStack environment with NixOS?
<ikwildrpepper>
__Sander__: sorry, got distracted by all sorts of production stuff, so haven't been able to get around to it yet
<__Sander__>
ah ok
<vegai_>
hyphon81: sounds like something that would be interesting at $work
<__Sander__>
well I intend to release a new version of node2nix very soon
<ikwildrpepper>
__Sander__: will it be compatible with 16.09?
<__Sander__>
yes
<__Sander__>
I still use it with 16.09
<ikwildrpepper>
great
<__Sander__>
its accuracy has improved a lot for NPM 3.x installations
<ikwildrpepper>
well, nothing is great with npm, but still, thanks ;)
<manveru>
i'm using yarn2nix now :P
<__Sander__>
but I was curious to see if you had any issues
<__Sander__>
all my stuff works
<manveru>
it works, but i don't have 5 minutes every time i want to add a package
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSZSI
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 4d4488e Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.18-201703261106 -> 4.9.19-201703300917
<__Sander__>
yes that's the price you have to pay if you properly want to simulate npm's quirks
<__Sander__>
and bad design choices
<__Sander__>
well bad design choices
<manveru>
:)
<__Sander__>
I think it's more lack of design :p
<__Sander__>
and ignoring "well known lessons learned"
<__Sander__>
such as permitting cyclic dependencies
<manveru>
js: reinventing the last 20 years
<__Sander__>
but yeah I have written already too much about the crazy implications of some choices in NPM
<manveru>
well, i convinced my team to go with yarn instead of npm, so far everyone's been happy with it
<manveru>
but of course that's not a choice for simply packaging existing stuff
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<__Sander__>
nope
<__Sander__>
I happen to work with people for whom switching to something else is a no-go
<manveru>
exactly
<zetok>
is nixos supposed to kill everything when fs mount options are invalid?
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<vegai_>
I'm a bit weirded out on how I'm supposed to develop arbitrary C software
<vegai_>
especially on how to make it see all the libs and includes in weird places
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<goibhniu>
have you seen nix-shell vegai_?
<vegai_>
goibhniu: no and thanks, I'll take a look :)
<goibhniu>
that's probably what you're looking for then :D you're welcome!
<globin>
domenkozar: do you know who is responsible for EC2 AMIs and Azure BLOBs?
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<copumpkin>
What does nix-shell do when your default.nix doesn't evaluate to a derivation?
<domenkozar>
globin: that's ikwildrpepper :-)
<vegai_>
hmm
<vegai_>
so I tried with nix-shell -p ncurses. That should give me an env with ncurses, right?
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<globin>
ikwildrpepper: are you going th regenerate AMIs (and azure images) in the next few days?
<vegai_>
but cc -lncurses derp.c fails: cc doesn't find libncurses
<Unode>
If I want to disable the "useEncumberedCode" option from pkgs/development/libraries/freetype/default.nix globally, do I need to use a package override? And does this package override means that anything depending on this package will have to be recompiled if no matching cached version is available?
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<HappyEnte_>
copumpkin, error: expression does not evaluate to a derivation (or a set or list of those) :)
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[nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSZbF
<NixOS_GitHub>
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<hyphon81>
OpenStack with NixOS is easy to modify for special purpose and enviroments for executing is seperated from other applications. It's useful for me.
<hyphon81>
So, I'm making nix codes for enabling OpenStack apps. https://github.com/hyphon81/Nixtack Those are executable in the moment. However, I have not write good usages and documents.
<Unode>
is there any way to know which settings can be overriden in a package? I'm trying "systemPackages = with pkgs [ (freetype.override { useEncumberedCode = false; }) ];" but I'm getting 'assertion failed'.
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<hyphon81>
nixpkgs's OpenStack apps are old version and few types. However, maintaining those apps is too difficult. And it will be spent many time. Everyone(me too) avoid it. XD I think so.
<HappyEnte_>
Unode, :) yeah just add useInfinality = false and it should work
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<Unode>
seems like they both map to the same thing
<Unode>
HappyEnte_: but for the sake of completion (and my own learning), if I was with unstable, how should I override it?
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<HappyEnte_>
Unode, should be exactly right they way you have done it before :)
<jsgrant>
Is 17.03 still planned for tomorrow?
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<Unode>
HappyEnte_: and the error is due to? I don't quite understand why useInfinality = false works. Both variables/attributes are listed on the stable channel.
<HappyEnte_>
Unode, the problem is that the newest module which only has the useEncumberedCode argument is avaiable in the unstable channels, but hasn't been backported to stable. In the old module there is an assertion that the two arguments you have now, need to have the same value
<Unode>
HappyEnte_: yeah I saw that... I guess my question is more, how can I tell what can be overriden and what cannot.
<HappyEnte_>
Unode, Using `override` you generally can override all arguments of the derivation -> the stuff that is written in the curly braces on the top
<Unode>
HappyEnte_: thanks that was the answer I was looking for.
<globin>
jsgrant: no still for today %)
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nixpkgs/master f0512f4 Robin Gloster: wxmupen64plus: fix eval
<hyphon81>
I'm wondering using Hydra for CI to my Nixtack codes is interesting. However I failed to use Hydra with MariaDB. I thought, if I build Hydra with DBDmysql, then I will be able to use MariaDB on Hydra. Was it too optimismal?
<disasm>
I enabled dnsmasq on my laptop and now my containers have 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf and can't resolve anything. I tried overriding with networking.nameservers = [ "8.8.8.8" ] but that didin't work.
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disasm: For example, I use networking.extraResolvconfConf to generate resolv.conf.
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<schoppenhauer>
hi. https://pastebin.com/hpmHweT5 is part of my ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix, and when I do nix-env -iA unstable.keepass_, it is correctly installed with the plugin. However, when I run nix-env --upgrade --fallback --leq -k, it overwrites this with the default keepass, probably because the name is the same, and the version too. what can I do about it?
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<unlmtd[m]>
Came across this pearl while reading the manual: "the Nix language is all about creating derivations, which are really just sets of attributes to be passed to build scripts."
<gchristensen>
unlmtd[m]: yeah :)
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<dash>
this is _mostly_ true. :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 47d7580 Robin Gloster: docs: 16.09 -> 17.03...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 e005c15 Robin Gloster: qt-gstreamer: fix build and do not mark wrong pkgs as broken...
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<globin>
domenkozar: next channel update after a new eval will be stable \o/
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #24475: boomerang: update to latest git, un-mark broken (master...fix/boomerang) https://git.io/vSnGn
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<jsgrant-_>
Based of allwinner stuff, so ... meh; But still, for the price that I can feel relatively guilt-free dipping full-in to NixOS non-vm (and not trying to convert all my boxes asap like a bit of a spaz) -- hard to beat.
<ndowens08>
And cheap
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<ndowens08>
Yup be nice to try
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<jsgrant-_>
Already have a 200gb (usable 180gb) miniSD card I have set aside for it even. :^)
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<ndowens08>
Dang. Lol biggest storage not including HD I have is like 32gb or so I think
<jsgrant-_>
A bit worried for compiling most of the toolchain locally -- which it seems I may have to do though; Oh well if-so.
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<jsgrant-_>
ndowens08: Got it for like 65usd on-sale awhile back; Haven't done much with it. Was going to put it in my RPi3 for a HTPC, but only need like 30gb there -- have everything else on my homeserver.
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<ndowens08>
Ah. I got mine flash drive for game backup since it tended to get corrupted
<jsgrant-_>
Been ripping all my family videos to a 3tb hdd; Was running out of space on 1. Storage is getting so cheap, it's crazy.
<ndowens08>
But good for buyers
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<Dezgeg>
you don't need to compile much since there is one aarch64 in hydra
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<ndowens08>
I want a SSD at some point, probably whenever my HD goes out
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<Kendos-Kenlen>
Hi ! :)
<jsgrant-_>
Dezgeg_: Oh, there is? I just remember awhile back that someone said they had to compile a bunch for a RPi3; Didn't look into it beyond that thusfar.
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<Kendos-Kenlen>
I have a little problem with package installed on my user profile. While software installed system-wide use the correct KDE theme, software installed user-wide use another theme (plastic maybe) which look very ugly.
<Kendos-Kenlen>
I know someone else had the problem one month ago but I have no idea how he solved this ...
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<ndowens08>
If you install for one user instead through root it won't be used by others
<dash>
ndowens08: sounds like his problem is the other direction
<jsgrant-_>
ndowens08: I'm gonna get 500gb one by the end of the year for my desktop. This box I'm on now, an "ultraportable laptop" I just bought in Feburary was the first SSD I've had & am still shocked (even though I knew it would be significantly better) just how much better it is.
<jsgrant-_>
Switching to swap for example, doesn't freeze my whole box on a regular basis.
<ndowens08>
jsgrant: yup heard it's faster
<ndowens08>
I don't use swap got like 16gb ram
* jsgrant-_
was going to switch to btrfs, but is still shocked it doesn't support swap.
<ndowens08>
For what I do it is enough
<jsgrant-_>
ndowens08: Eventually upgrading desktop to that ... 5gb now, less than this ultraportable laptop @ 8gb. :^U
<disasm>
jsgrant-_: swap files are evil, just partition off a bit of the disk for dedicated swap.
<Kendos-Kenlen>
+1 disasm
<ndowens08>
Could do that
<jsgrant-_>
At this point, I'm just running xfs with a dedicated swap under lvm; Via Fedora.
<jsgrant-_>
Just think it looks uglier.
<disasm>
btrfs here... root in a subvol so I can switch back and forth between arch and nixos, but I seldomly boot into arch anymore.
<joko>
Hello, any hints for making Hydra work on a new install?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[hydra] shlevy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vSnCz
<NixOS_GitHub>
hydra/master 3b5fd2d Shea Levy: hydra-eval-jobs: Disable the build hook....
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<demax>
Dezgeg, nope, your images doesn't work either. Same gradient on bootup. Raspbian works though. I still have about a day before I'll try bootstrapping from raspbian. Meanwhile, maybe you have some tricks to debug to debug your images on real hardware? Except UART
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<Dezgeg>
maybe tweaking the config.txt, in case something is wrong there
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSnzY
<Dezgeg>
maybe enable_uart=1 needs to be in the [pi2] section as well
<ericnoan>
is there a place to share config files?
<ericnoan>
i would like to see a full-fledged config
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<ericnoan>
i found some on github
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<ericnoan>
are there nix presets available anywhere? like for desktops
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<nixy>
ericnoan: What do you mean by presets? Just enabling a desktop environment should give you a "preset"
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Ma27 opened pull request #24479: lambda-mod-zsh-theme: init at eceee68cf46bba9f7f42887c2128b48e8861e31b (master...init/lambda-mod-zsh-theme) https://git.io/vSnav
<ericnoan>
nixy: yes, but what about small stuff like fonts and power management?
<nixy>
ericnoan: I don't think there is any sort of example nix.config for what your looking for, there are default values for all the options if you inspect them though
<kuznero>
When new version of NixOS will be release (if not already) how should one proceed with upgrading?
<clever>
kuznero: add the new channel with "nix-channel --add URL nixos" and then nixos-rebuild boot and reboot
<clever>
kuznero: nix-channel should be ran as root
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<kuznero>
clever: currently there are now channels registered (there is probably one that is used implicitly)... is adding a new channel an official way of upgrading to 17.03? Can I just change nixos version to 17.03 in *.nix configuration file?
<clever>
kuznero: it can only be changed by running nix-channel, no config in configuration.nix can control what channel it uses
<clever>
kuznero: and it is the channel that is responsible for loading configuration.nix, so its too late to change things by the time its parsing
<kuznero>
I am trying to figure out the details about how F# compiler package was upgraded last time... As new version has many more dependencies that need to be converted into nix packages. And I would really like to get some help in understanding the basics of it. (I have a strong .net background, just need to catch up on nix packaging)...
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<ericnoan>
what is a NAR file?
<dash>
ericnoan: an archive like tar, but in a deterministic order (for stable hashes)
<clever>
and it cant store uid or timestamps
<ericnoan>
dash: oh so it is what is served from the binary cache?
<dash>
right
<ericnoan>
i have been reading haha
<dash>
i think the salient property is: nar files with the same file contents will have the same hash
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<demax>
wow, I didn't know tar was non-deterministic
<dash>
demax: files can be in different orders, have different timestamps/uids, etc
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<clever>
i think tar just leaves them in the same order they where in on-disk
<clever>
which can vary from filesystem to filesystem, and the order they where made in
<clever>
ls sorts by name by default, so its hard to notice (ls -U disables all sorting)
<demax>
it was created for archiving from/to with magnetic types so making it read files continusolsy makes sense
<kuznero>
clever: I can see that when I added 17.03 channel that it still downloads from beta channel. Will that be switched to released soon?
<demax>
*tapes
<gchristensen>
demax: true :)
<gchristensen>
demax: that is a good point
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<clever>
kuznero: that will probably change when 17.03 becomes official
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<kuznero>
clever: I thought it was planned for today
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<kuznero>
Is here anybody who can help figure out how to connect new packages done with `fetchNuGet` with new dotnet packages that depend on these "fetched" packages?
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<spinus>
kuznero: are you trying to "copy few packages into one directory" approach?
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<demax>
seems like my question got ignored, but still, if old wiki is deprecated, where is the new wiki?
<clever>
demax: everything is being moved to documentation on the site, which is stored witnin the git repos
<kuznero>
spinus: not exactly. my plan is to bring new version of F# compiler (4.1.1, previos is 4.0.1.1). This new version depends on some new NuGet packages and also new versions of packages that are already available in nix.
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<demax>
clever, jeez, that wasn't obvious. I thinks it would be beeter to emphasise the disclaimer on old wiki in red rectangle and give some more explanation/link to page in old wiki that describes rationale behind this and steps taken.
<MichaelRaskin>
The rationale is trivial, actually: the spammers have won
<makefu>
clahaha
<kuznero>
spinus: thus, I need to bring some new packages that are done with `fetchNuGet` function. My problem really at this moment is that I cannot understand how to get access to existing nix packages (created with `fetchNuGet`) from the F# package that is building it from sources (normally, NuGet dependencies need to be found under the same project folder in `./packages`, but they are only in nix store). So, should I just try to
<kuznero>
create symlinks to simulate that I have local `./packages` folder or what? This is where I got stuck currently.
<kuznero>
spinus: tricky part is that these packages-dependencies need to be available at the time I build F#-package as if it is placed under `./packages` folder of F# project.
<clever>
spinus: this rebuilds gtk and libnl with debug symbols, then builds a non-debug wireshark against the debug gtk+libnl
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<clever>
spinus: so now the debug info in gdb is targeting only the area of the backtrace that has a segfault
<spinus>
kuznero: there is no trick there, if you follow the procedure the packages will be overriden in the build time
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<spinus>
clever: hmm
<spinus>
so, hard way, clone nixpkgs and modify stuff :)
<spinus>
?
<clever>
spinus: thats usualy the easyer way, but it gives you more work in the long-term, to maintain the change
<demax>
Dezgeg, added enable_uart=1, nothing. removed free space before boot partition - still no luck.
<demax>
I saw uboot-xxx-bananapi.bin and I do have BananaPi. Can you please exaplin/point to guides how to enable that.
<clever>
spinus: yeah, an override or overlay will stick long term and have little maintaince cost
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<spinus>
clever: live is just a set of hard decisions, isn't it :-) I started maintain my own packages as "kind of" overlay, I fixed version of <nixpkgs> in a script, and other are placed in pkgs directory, I wouldn't say it's too much work for me, especially when you write few "update" scripts to generate you nix expressions (like garbas started doing for firefox I think in nixpkgs repo)
<kuznero>
clever: ok, will try that. Even though I cannot understand currently how to make packages available in nix store available in build time under ./packages/ folder.
<spinus>
kuznero: you just need to overide buildInput or add buildPhase script to link it somehow, no?
<spinus>
if not, probably I'm not in the right context
<kuznero>
spinus: yep, that what I had in mind, just wanted to ask if it is good aproach.
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<globin>
Just have to wait for niksnut to update the website to announce it properly %)
<gchristensen>
anyone know how to debug this error from cmake? "configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!" right after lines: "checking for boostlib >= 1.51.0... yes\nchecking whether the Boost::Context library is available... yes" and no other information about what was missing.
<disasm>
I love nixos on my laptop!!! I think writing nix files is finally starting to click! Amazing what two days of forcing yourself to learn will accomplish!
<gchristensen>
disasm: nice! :D
<schoppenhauer>
*push* hi. https://pastebin.com/hpmHweT5 is part of my ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix, and when I do nix-env -iA unstable.keepass_, it is correctly installed with the plugin. However, when I run nix-env --upgrade --fallback --leq -k, it overwrites this with the default keepass, probably because the name is the same, and the version too. what can I do about it?
<dash>
disasm: it's a steep hill to climb but not a tall one :)
<spinus>
gchristensen: you may try to add boost.dev to buildInputs
<spinus>
maybe "boost" only contains bins
<gchristensen>
I ~believe~ I tried that, but I'll give it a go :)
<spinus>
:(
<globin>
spinus, gchristensen: buildInputs handles that
<gchristensen>
ah I thought that was the case, and adding `.dev` didn't help
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<spinus>
globin: wow, magic, how that works, how it knows which output has sources?
<globin>
spinus: vcunat is the magician \o/
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<spinus>
:)
<spinus>
I'll look there that sounds interesting
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<globin>
gchristensen: configure looks weird at lines 18367-18381
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<copumpkin>
Anyone know how to unscrew staging? It looks like just a patch reference that needs to be removed but I don't really know
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #24482: /lib/default.nix: Add file docstring & unit test hint (master...lib-main-docstring) https://git.io/vSnD2
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #24483: latte-dock: init at 0.5.98 (master...latte-dock) https://git.io/vSnDi
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<Dezgeg>
I guess ttuegel needs to actually commit the patch :)
<Dezgeg>
or maybe that patch needs to be brought back actually
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<kuznero>
After upgrading to 17.03 channel I start getting this error when calling `sudo nixos-rebuild switch`: ln: failed to create symbolic link '/nix/store/zj0s1zbbiq0k6cd3xps3jvqqvn05xm6l-user-units/gnome-terminal-server.service': File exists
<kuznero>
Should I just try to remove existing link, or something more fundamental is wrong here?
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<ashkitten>
does anyone else use pasystray and have an issue with it not using the icon theme?
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<globin>
kuznero: could you paste your configuration.nix to gist.github.com or similar?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vSnSw
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 4df59be Tuomas Tynkkynen: fontconfig_210: Remove reference to obsolete patch...
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<ndowens08>
ok what is the best way to update a branch so a fast-forward merge can happen; seems git pull --rebase still causes issues; adds extra pkgs and commit history
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<fpletz>
ndowens08: I always do: git fetch origin; git rebase origin/master
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<ndowens08>
even if it is a "feature branch"?
<fpletz>
yes
<ndowens08>
ah ok, will try that
<ndowens08>
i hate pull
<fpletz>
you need to rebase it on top of the current master branch ;)
<ndowens08>
fpletz: srry messed up origional hdparm PR, tried rebasing to leave origional and fix it
<ndowens08>
but it ended up removing everything and closing it
<ndowens08>
i hate seeing merge commit logs, reason i want always fast-forward
<fpletz>
I don't understand why you need to reopen a new PR, why can't you update the old branch when you're able to produce the right commit in another branch?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] takikawa opened pull request #24490: nfdump: init at 1.6.15 (master...add-nfdump) https://git.io/vScf1
<fpletz>
yeah, that's what rebase does!
<ndowens08>
yup tried that, i looked at reflog to find history that wouldnt cause that issue and well idk lol
<ndowens08>
issue meaning extra files/commits
<fpletz>
but you just need to push the commit of your new PR to the branch your old PR?
<ndowens08>
i tried that, it didnt reopen
<fpletz>
no, you need to reopen yourself
<fpletz>
or rather, not close it
<fpletz>
oh, I see you pull requested the new branch
<fpletz>
ah, the old branch
<ndowens08>
weird, i used the same branch
<fpletz>
sorry, I'm getting sleepy :)
<ndowens08>
so i thought it would reopen it, it has done that before for me, but not this time
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<ndowens08>
me too, tomorrow i wil have around 60 hrs this week :\
<ndowens08>
I created two gitlab accounts to play with git more as having seperate accounts/repo somehow messed with one of my open PRs once, so yea lol; no way can gitlab mess up PRs now :)
<ndowens08>
just wish I had activity on one of them so I can learn to work around a sorta busy repo
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<fpletz>
just push nixpkgs into a repo in your gitlab? :)
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<ndowens08>
hmm maybe :)
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<pmahoney>
when i "sign in with google" on hydra.nixos.org, nothing apparently happens (at least there's nothing to indicate i'm signed-in) (i used to have an account through Persona)
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<ashkitten>
does anyone think they can help me with any of the #TODOs in my configuration.nix? https://ptpb.pw/PbsF
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<MichaelRaskin>
ashkitten: re: openssh: did you check that the sshd process is running (ps -ef should help)? That it is listening something (ss -nlp | grep 22)?
<MichaelRaskin>
That the firewall rules are not obviously blocking it? (iptables -L)?
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<c74d>
NixOS doesn't open the firewall for SSHd when SSHd is enabled?
<MichaelRaskin>
In general NixOS doesn't open the firewall for services.
<MichaelRaskin>
For OpenSSH there might be exceptions
<MichaelRaskin>
Don't remember how the last discussion ended
<MichaelRaskin>
I'm not using stock NixOS, so cannot check quickly
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<MichaelRaskin>
Hm, seems fine, and does nc 127.0.0.1 22 print ssh banner?
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<MichaelRaskin>
(one-line version summary)_
<ashkitten>
Yeah it does
<MichaelRaskin>
Can you ssh 127.0.0.1 ?
<MichaelRaskin>
(Also, are both devices on WiFi when you cannot ssh from another device, and is AP Client Isolation switched on in the WiFi AP/router)…
<ashkitten>
they're both on wifi yes
<MichaelRaskin>
It looks like you don't even have NixOS firewall
<MichaelRaskin>
(i.e. it is in all-permissive state)
<ashkitten>
that might be it actually, the AP Client Isolation
<MichaelRaskin>
Can you change the WiFi situation?
<ashkitten>
My dad can when he gets home
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, you could be able to try to connect something with a Ethernet
<ashkitten>
I got it working via hamachi since I already use that on both machines
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<MichaelRaskin>
Oh well, default SSH encryption is good enough for the privacy leak to be limited
<MichaelRaskin>
(Data flow rate patterns do show that this is SSH and a bit more, of course)
<ashkitten>
do you know anything about the other issues?
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<MichaelRaskin>
Did you try, say, caps_toggle?
<ashkitten>
I'll try that now
<MichaelRaskin>
Just to check if you have a problem with a single option
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<MichaelRaskin>
Or shift_caps without caps-compose
<ashkitten>
yeah true
<MichaelRaskin>
Themes are something you avoid
<MichaelRaskin>
If you value simplicity of tiling
<ashkitten>
I tried this configuration because I know it to work on Arch Linux using localectl
<MichaelRaskin>
You-not-rhetorical, you the person, do not values the simplicity of tiling, so none of my experience is useful
<yumbox>
"#TODO: this doesn't work for some reason"
<yumbox>
i was trying to get mouse cursor themes to work too
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<yumbox>
i figured out that XCURSOR_PATH does get set in TTY
<yumbox>
but that it gets unset for some reason in X