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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23360: pcapc: 2015-03.06 -> 1.0.0 (master...pcapc) https://git.io/vysaR
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23361: par2cmdline: 0.6.11 -> 0.6.13 (master...par2cmdline) https://git.io/vysVT
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23362: openresolv: 3.8.1 -> 3.9.0 (master...openresolv) https://git.io/vysV1
<MichaelRaskin> Hm. Jitsi 2.8 worked OK with a server with self-signed sertificate, Jitsi 2.10 says there is an error without offering to accept the certificate. I wonder if the just updating the source archive breaks something
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vysVd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3df8bef ndowens: discount: 2.2.0 -> 2.2.2...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0d936b0 Peter Hoeg: Merge pull request #23312 from ndowens/discount...
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<Kendos-Kenlen> Euh, can someone telle me why slack as a cron for ubuntu ? O_o I can't see why some apt stuff to enable the slack repo can be necessary ...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23364: olsrd: 0.6.6.1 -> 0.9.6.1 (master...olsrd) https://git.io/vyswB
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<ndowens08> hmm
<ndowens08> getting network is unreachable when trying to push to my git repo, ugh
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<ndowens08> anyone having github issue? I am using ssh to push with
<nh2> fpletz: "then we should rather increase test coverage and just don't do releases anymore because master would always be stable and tested" - I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but I'll just dump my opinion anyway: For many people a key benefit of having releases is so that security updates and feature / API changes are decoupled. With rolling-release only, I have to continuously adjust my software to APIs and behaviour changing under my f
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mguentner opened pull request #23365: ipfs: 0.4.5 -> 0.4.6 (master...ipfs_0_4_6) https://git.io/vysr1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vysry
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 256e764 Tuomas Tynkkynen: radeontools: Mark as broken...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vysrS
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 5a2b3c3 Tuomas Tynkkynen: radeontools: Mark as broken...
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<fpletz> nh2: well, it wasn't meant really serious, but longterm it would be nice to have behavioural tests because we also want to catch such regressions between releases to mention them in the release notes
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<ndowens08> https method isnt working either
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Kendos-Kenlen opened pull request #23366: slack: 2.3.4 -> 2.5.1 (master...slack_update) https://git.io/vysrb
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<nh2> fpletz: my full support for that!
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<ndowens08> Can anyone see if they can push to github, or is it just me that cant
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<ndowens08> nvm
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23367: miniupnpc: 1.9.20150430 -> 2.0.20161216 (master...miniupnpc) https://git.io/vysK0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23368: ocproxy: 1.50 -> 1.60 (master...ocproxy) https://git.io/vysKw
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<dmj`> Hi
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<dmj`> fetchgit will append the string from $NIX_CURL_FLAGS when it calls curl
<dmj`> I’d like to set this environment variable for the user that runs when nix-build is called
<dmj`> I have in my environment.variables = { PRIVATE-TOKEN = “secrett”; }
<dmj`> but the nix-build environment does not seem to inherit this
<dmj`> I don’t want to use curlOpts, I’d like to keep the key out of the /nix/store
<dmj`> why isn’t $NIX_CURL_FLAGS appending the header when I call nix-build?
<dmj`> (assuming I’ve set it correctly in the environment)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23369: httping: 2.4 -> 2.5 (master...httping) https://git.io/vysid
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<gchristensen> woohoo! 17.03 has a small channel, presumably a regular channel soon.
<gchristensen> dmj`: maybe try setting the environment variable and running a build as root.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23370: horst: git-2016-03-15 -> 5.0 (master...horst) https://git.io/vysPs
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<dmj`> gchristiansen: then root can’t find my nixpkgs :)
<dmj`> gchristiansen: is the nixbld user really not aware of environment.variables
<gchristensen> dmj`: it may not be, due to the daemon
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<dmj`> can I set it on the daemon in configuration.nix
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23371: hans: 0.4.4 -> 1.0 (master...hans) https://git.io/vysPa
<gchristensen> not sure how :/
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<gchristensen> maybe something like systemd.services.nix-daemon.environment.FOO="bar"? just guessing
<dmj`> systemd.services.<name>.environment
<dmj`> hmmmm
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<dmj`> gchristensen: nice it worked
<dmj`> no passwords in the store
<dmj`> \o/
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<gchristensen> you _sure_?
<dmj`> let me check
<gchristensen> I suspect the unit is in the store, and has the password
<dmj`> I think it gets added to impureEnvVars
<dmj`> let me fact check that
<gchristensen> also I would think environment.variables gets in to the store too
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23372: gvpe: 2.25 -> 3.0 (master...gvpe) https://git.io/vysXk
<gchristensen> exactly what did you do?
<gchristensen> what change did you make to your configuration?
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<dmj`> gchristensen: exactly what you wrote, systemd.services.nix-daemon.environment = { key = “value”; }
<dmj`> sudo nixos-rebuild switch
<dmj`> then fetchFromGitLab just works on private repos
<dmj`> same with github too
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<dmj`> if you go the personal access token route
<dmj`> this would work well for hydra as well
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Kendos-Kenlen opened pull request #23373: yarn: 0.20.3 -> 0.21.3 (master...yarn) https://git.io/vysXB
<gchristensen> run: systemctl status nix-daemon, and cat the unit filee
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<dmj`> mine does find the file
<dmj`> are you on nixos
<gchristensen> yes, but I think it will have the password :/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg opened pull request #23374: mkDerivation: Don't pass buildInputs to stdenv builder in nativeBuildInputs (master...pr-nativebuildinputs) https://git.io/vys1D
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23375: driftnet: 0.7 -> 1.1.5 (master...driftnet) https://git.io/vysDf
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vysDR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 439face Tuomas Tynkkynen: lkl: Broken on i686...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #23352: eztrace: add missing dependency (master...eztrace) https://git.io/vysnW
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/83462da2961a653f3958eaef8bbe80212ac25e8f
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 83462da rnhmjoj: eztrace: add missing dependency
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 2 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vysD1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 ed0dd35 Tuomas Tynkkynen: lkl: Broken on i686...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 78d80da rnhmjoj: eztrace: add missing dependency...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bcdarwin opened pull request #23376: ANTs: init at 2.1.0 (0gyys1lf) and update ITK accordingly (master...ants) https://git.io/vysDD
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<Kendos-Kenlen> D: why python2.7 is the version installed by nixos.python ? :'(
<Kendos-Kenlen> That's sad !
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<gchristensen> IIRC that is being changed in 17.03
<Kendos-Kenlen> it's not on unstable :|
<gchristensen> but the answer was for backwardss compatability, you can get a newer one with python3
<Kendos-Kenlen> I feel bad now you know :'(
<gchristensen> why?
<Kendos-Kenlen> I'm the kind of guy to set python3 as default everywhere on source based distrib (cc #exherbo) and to only set python2.7 for applications that really need it
<gchristensen> ok
<Kendos-Kenlen> I militate for the death of python2
<gchristensen> ok
<dmj`> gchristiansen: password?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23377: connect: 1.104 -> 1.105 (master...connect) https://git.io/vysy4
<gchristensen> dmj`: I'm just skeptical that the password is in fact not in the store. also, the "ia" is just an "e" in my name :)
<dmj`> doh :)
<dmj`> my bad
<gchristensen> it is okay
<dmj`> converted you to christianity
<ndowens08> man there are so many packages that are out of date
* joepie91 has been pondering automated updates
<gchristensen> ndowens08: it is hard for only a few hundred people, and a few dozen highly active people to maintain 10s of thousands of packages.
<joepie91> (of the "try to feed in a new version and see if the build breaks" variety)
<ndowens08> gchristensen: yup i agree :) just crazy :D
<gchristensen> joepie91: there are assorted projects like that
<joepie91> gchristensen: have links? a quick Google turned up nothing
<gchristensen> https://github.com/Phreedom/nixpkgs-monitor did something like that
<joepie91> gchristensen: I thought that *just* monitored the stuff currently there?
<joepie91> I'm more thinking of something greenkeeper-style
<ndowens08> I have been adding the packages i added myself as maintainer to release-monitoring.org from fedora
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<ndowens08> that way I will get emails when upstream updates
<joepie91> gchristensen: ah, right, that assumes a package has an update script
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<gchristensen> it doese
<joepie91> gchristensen: I was more thinking of something that checks out nixpkgs, replaces a version number in a .nix file, tries to build, and checks whether it builds and the resulting binaries don't break when started
<joepie91> since there's already a sort-of-convention for version numbers
<joepie91> (and if it doesn't break, it could open a PR)
<gchristensen> worth a shot
<joepie91> would have to enumerate "missing dependency" failure modes for that though
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<gchristensen> not sure why you would, joepie91
<joepie91> gchristensen: well, the most likely thing to break between version upgrades of expressions is "oh there's a new dependency required now", as far as I know... so ideally you'd want a testing process that catches such cases with reasonable certainty
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<gchristensen> seems like an edge case you can ignore :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23378: yubikey-personalization: 1.17.3 -> 1.18.0 (master...yubikey-personalization) https://git.io/vys92
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23379: xiccd: 0.2.2 -> 0.2.4 (master...xiccd) https://git.io/vys95
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<ndowens08> lol, almost all the PRs on the 1st page are all mine
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] veprbl opened pull request #23380: fakeroot: add darwin support (master...fakeroot_darwin) https://git.io/vys5Y
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vys5Q
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1fbcce4 Peter Hoeg: dropbox: 19.4.13 -> 20.4.19
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 fba286e Peter Hoeg: dropbox: 19.4.13 -> 20.4.19...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vysdv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 1c6d95e Peter Hoeg: dropbox: 19.4.13 -> 20.4.19...
<peterhoeg> gchristensen & joepie91: I have 2 SUPER basic scripts here that I use for ruby and go packages: https://github.com/peterhoeg/nix-upgrade-scripts
<peterhoeg> those work for the general use case without having to specify for an updatescript for each package
<joepie91> peterhoeg: will have a look at that when I have more braincycles, thanks
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<smw_> Anyone know what would this?: cause The option value `fileSystems.unnamed-1.1.options' in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' is not a list of string (with check: non-empty)s.
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<smw_> I figured it out. It was another error in the config I copied from https://nixos.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_NixOS_on_ARM
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<dmj`> has anyone provisioned vms w/ a hypervisor (like xen) with libvirtd ?
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<clever> smw_: fileSystems should be an attribute set, not a list
<clever> and the mountpoint is the key name
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<smw_> meh, it seems to work as a list.
<smw_> the issue was that options should be a list but in the example was a string
<clever> ahh
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<smw_> clever: I am in way over my depth, I can't even figure out how to build https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix
<smw_> nix-build nixos -I nixos-config=nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix -A config.system.build.sdImage gives me a message that it can't find sdImage
<clever> smw_: you to use nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A config.system.build.sdImage -I nixos-config=./configuration.nix
<smw_> anyways, I am running a nixos-install now. Chances are it won't be writing the raspberry pi firmware to /boot so I will need to figure it out later.
<clever> and configuration.nix must contain imports = [ <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix> ];
<smw_> I see
<smw_> so in theory sd image handles the raspberry pi firmware, should I cancel my current build and try to use that?
<clever> yeah
<smw_> The prebuild sd card didn't work. But I have a feeling that is because it was old.
<smw_> Or at least, that was part of it.
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<smw_> clever: nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A config.system.build.sdImage -I nixos-config=./configuration.nix
<smw_> error: attribute ‘sdImage’ in selection path ‘config.system.build.sdImage’ not found
<clever> and configuration.nix must contain imports = [ <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix> ];
<clever> did you get that part?
<smw_> yep
<smw_> clever: so, what do you think I am doing wrong? :-)
<clever> ah, there is a comment right on line 2 giving a command similar to mine
<clever> i see, that is what you ran before
<smw_> clever: yes
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<clever> smw_: and what channel are you getting nixpkgs from?
<smw_> none, I git pulled it
<clever> ah, then your on master
<smw_> yes
<smw_> I was following bootstrap on arm guide...
<smw_> I have since learned that was a horrible mistake
<clever> the wiki is outdated and read-only
<smw_> wait, the wiki is readonly?!
<clever> yes
<clever> it has been for over a year
<smw_> crap, now I see that written at the top!
<smw_> it should be more eye grabbing...
<clever> nix-build /home/clever/nixpkgs/nixos/ -I nixos-config=nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix -A config.system.build.sdImage
<clever> smw_: what does it give if you give it a path to the nixos subdir of your nixpkgs checkout?
<smw_> same thing, will try again using an absolute path like yours
<smw_> root@raspberrypi:~# nix-build /root/nixpkgs/nixos/ -I nixos-config=nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix -A config.system.build.sdImage
<smw_> error: attribute ‘sdImage’ in selection path ‘config.system.build.sdImage’ not found
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<clever> and there is a modules dir in /root/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/ ?
<smw_> yep
<clever> it should be working
<eacameron> Any thoughts on this? clever? https://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/
<clever> nix-instantiate ~/apps/nixpkgs/nixos/ -A config.system.build.sdImage -I nixos-config=/home/clever/apps/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix --argstr system armv7l-linux
<clever> eacameron: ive got a dedicated box at soyoustart, and the control panel is good
<eacameron> clever: No way! It looks like a crazy good deal
<clever> eacameron: from the web ui, you can change the boot order between a rescue netboot, and the hdd, and on bootup, it will email you the root pw
<clever> eacameron: and with root in that recovery netboot, you can do https://nixos.org/wiki/Install_NixOS_on_Linode
<eacameron> clever: That's cool. You running NixOS on it?
<eacameron> Oh Ah I see.
<clever> not yet, havent had time to schedule downtime to wipe it
<clever> but i plan to put nixos on the next machine
<eacameron> clever: Awesome.
<eacameron> The price looks amazing
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<eacameron> For $40/mo DO gives you a tiny fraction of that power/space
<eacameron> And of course AWS and Google are even smaller fraction
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<eacameron> Am I reading that right??
<clever> yeah, it is pretty cheap and powerfull
<smw_> clever: yep, time for me to give up
<smw_> I just did a git pull just to be sure
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<smw_> clever: I am back to doing install. When it completes, I will try to figure out firmware. I might just cheat.
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<Ralith> my experience has been that OVH has garbage network management and support
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<clever> Ralith: the only time ive had network trouble is when somebody with a backhoe severed a dozen fiber optic lines
<clever> Ralith: and ive had far worse support from another datacenter
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<clever> Ralith: i asked where server xyz was, giving an ip, they said "all servers are working fine", and they rebooted every box without asking
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sorpaas opened pull request #23381: jenkins-job-builder: allow setting access tokens for reloading (master...pr-1) https://git.io/vyshJ
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<Ralith> yeah, their uptime's okay
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sorpaas opened pull request #23382: xfce: delay package selection for pulseaudio volume to nixos modules (master...pr-2) https://git.io/vyshu
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyshz
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 45344fd Vladimír Čunát: tested job: drop the hibernate test on i686 for now...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sorpaas opened pull request #23383: meteor: 1.2.0.1 -> 1.4.2.3 (master...pr-4) https://git.io/vysh1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGvf
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d072ac2 ndowens: quicktun: 2.2.4 -> 2.2.5
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23354: swaks:20130209.0 -> 20170101.0 (master...swaks) https://git.io/vysl5
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<Mic92> does ndowens want to become the uber maintainer? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pulls/ndowens
<Mic92> *wants
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<LnL> I know right
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23306: kytea: 0.4.6 -> 0.4.7; source was still pointing to version 0.4.6 (master...kytea) https://git.io/vyYrU
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<reinzelmann> Morning! libasyncns-python fails to build for me on nixos-unstable with
<reinzelmann> libasyncns.c:137:13: error: 'ns_t_zxfr' undeclared (first use in this function)
<reinzelmann> ADDNSCONST(ns_t_zxfr);
<reinzelmann> Anyone know what that's about?
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<phreedom> joepie91: missing new dependency is something you can catch if the thing doesn't compile and if not, i tried highlighting the relevant lines for the human reviewer
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGUQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 86c51da Peter Simons: LTS Haskell 8.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eabf47b Peter Simons: hackage2nix: disable builds that depend on broken webkitgtk-2.4.11
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 53d55cb Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...
<phreedom> joepie91: diffing the build log helps and grepping for missing,not found, this kind of words
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] izuk opened pull request #23385: bazel: add gcc to PATH and simplify patch (master...bazel) https://git.io/vyGTc
<Mic92> reinzelmann: this is fixed in master
<reinzelmann> cool, thx Mic92
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23308: highlight: 3.28 -> 3.35 (master...highlight) https://git.io/vyYoj
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGLi
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 775e8eb ndowens: enca: 1.16 -> 1.19
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c5a1625 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23309 from ndowens/enca...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23314: Ansifilter: 1.15 -> 2.4 (master...ansifilter) https://git.io/vyYSV
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGtF
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0e3cf99 ndowens: xe: 0.5 -> 0.6.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b57861c Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23315 from ndowens/xe...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix opened pull request #23386: gnupg21: 2.1.18 -> 2.1.19 (staging...update_gnupg21) https://git.io/vyGYI
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23316: uptimed: 0.3.18 -> 0.4.0 (master...uptimed) https://git.io/vyYHn
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<unlmtd[m]> connmand causes system crash after resuming from suspend
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<unlmtd[m]> well, the problem was linked to systemd, and it was resolved by switching to networkmanager
<unlmtd[m]> so its only a fairly certain guestimation
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<__Sander__> hmm
<__Sander__> now it's a bit of a pity that I can't download any build products from hydra.nixos.org anymore
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyG3Z
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d9bc414 ndowens: augeas: 1.5.0 -> 1.7.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 15f1d84 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23343 from ndowens/augeas...
<clever> __Sander__: that was disabled months ago, it now pushes everything to S3
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<__Sander__> clever: yes I know
<__Sander__> I was just look into a way to refer to refer to the corresponding tarball from a Nix expression, but that won't be possible anymore
<clever> the binary cache can still easily be used
<clever> if you run "nix-store -r /nix/store/hash-foo-1.2.3" it will download it from the cache
<clever> this works for anything in the cache, and you dont need the nix expression that made it
<clever> and the details page in hydra shows that path
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23356: speedtest-cli: 0.3.4 -> 1.0.2 (master...speedtest-cli) https://git.io/vys4s
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9addeaf ndowens: par2cmdline: 0.6.11 -> 0.6.13 (#23361)...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGZD
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ec98c1d Robin Gloster: haskellPackages.cabal-lenses: add comment to upstream issue
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 13 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGZH
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 acddebc Eelco Dolstra: nixUnstable: 1.12pre4997_1351b0d -> 1.12pre5060_fa125b9...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 e005041 ndowens: di: 4.42 -> 4.43...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 a9c8a48 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: phc-intel: 0.4.0-rev22 -> 0.4.0-rev24...
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<globin> peti: are you planning to cherry-pick the haskell changes you made or shall I go ahead?
<07EAAF0T6> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23367: miniupnpc: 1.9.20150430 -> 2.0.20161216 (master...miniupnpc) https://git.io/vysK0
<7GHAAGOBW> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGCL
<7GHAAGOBW> nixpkgs/master 9d30abf ndowens: miniupnpc: 1.9.20150430 -> 2.0.20161216
<7GHAAGOBW> nixpkgs/master e867620 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23367 from ndowens/miniupnpc...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGC5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ef4775c ndowens: httping: 2.4 -> 2.5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0e07b7b Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23369 from ndowens/httping...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar closed pull request #23377: connect: 1.104 -> 1.105 (master...connect) https://git.io/vysy4
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<clever> hyper_ch: can just hop over here
<peti> globin: I'll copy the entire haskell-modules directory over to the release branch when it's in a stable state.
<globin> peti: ok
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGlV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5a68d54 Andreas Herrmann: blitz: switch back to boost-1.60...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGlo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 481630a Andreas Herrmann: blitz: switch back to boost-1.60...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23371: hans: 0.4.4 -> 1.0 (master...hans) https://git.io/vysPa
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyG8J
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d2aa170 Cray Elliott: ffmpeg-full: 3.2.2 -> 3.2.4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0b7861d Cray Elliott: obs-studio: 17.0.1 -> 18.0.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c5367a4 Robin Gloster: maintainers/hydra-eval-failures: flush stdout more often
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyG8s
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 594651e Robin Gloster: maintainers/hydra-eval-failures: flush stdout more often...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master fbf17f1 Eelco Dolstra: builtins.fetchgit: Fix bad format string
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master ffcf9d2 Eelco Dolstra: builtins.fetchgit: Support paths
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<gchristensen> nice, pte
<gchristensen> peterhoeg:
<gchristensen> you're up early, globin
<gchristensen> oh nevermind :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c44a41c Joachim Fasting: tor: split out geoip data...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGzP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bfe15ec Domen Kožar: electron: 1.4.13 -> 1.4.15
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGz9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 7f31bf3 Domen Kožar: electron: 1.4.13 -> 1.4.15
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<ZoomZoomZoom> Hey, anybody using borg on Nixos? I'm on unstable channel and can't install it. Build fails on python3.4-setuptools.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #23350: httping: 2.4 -> 2.5 (master...pkg/httping) https://git.io/vysGn
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGg3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eebb5f2 Robin Gloster: cuter: fix indentation
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master feffa1a Robin Gloster: cuter: fix build
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #11447: halide: init at 2015.10.22 (master...halide) https://git.io/vRcQp
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGgF
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fdd436b David Terry: vscode: 1.9.1 -> 1.10.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 12409e7 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23353 from xwvvvvwx/update_vscode...
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<ZoomZoomZoom> globin, thanks
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<fxp> hello, is it possible to specify which file to use as a configuration file - let's say for vim for example - instead of writing it's content manually in vimrcConfig.customRC ?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vyGac
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging b588ed9 Frederik Rietdijk: Python 3.4: fixup expat and libffi, fixes #23325
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGai
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 306eb6d Robin Gloster: d4x: remove...
<mogria> Hey, I'm trying to fix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/12011, but the derivation that needs fixing is in a let statement (see https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/314dd9215b3d377ad52fc54124045945211f72c9/pkgs/applications/editors/sublime3/default.nix) and not directly accessible via NIX_PATH="..." nix-build -A sublime3 --run-env. How would I test such an expression? Should I just paste it in another file and use nix-build?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 3 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGaX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 042b815 Robin Gloster: cuter: fix indentation...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 8b64630 Robin Gloster: cuter: fix build...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 1b9e238 Robin Gloster: d4x: remove...
<clever> mogria: one option is to just clone all of nixpkgs, edit the file in the nix expression, and then use nix-build on that new nixpkgs tree as normal
<mogria> @fxp: you could use builtins.readFile but i don't know if it's a good solution
<fxp> well, i used `vimrcConfig.customRC = builtins.readFile ./vimrc;` but not sure it's the smartest way to do it
<clever> fxp: if you can find vim's version of include, you can do vimrcConfig.customRC = '' include ${./vimrc} '';
<mogria> @clever: With --run-env i can step through the build phases in a nix-shell, can I do that with nix-build as well for this derivation in the "let"-statement?
<clever> mogria: nix-build will just do everything at once, i generaly just add debug code directly to the nix expression and re-run nix-build
<clever> as long as it builds fast, that isnt an issue
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<gchristensen> globin: 17.03 has a channel now btw :)
<LnL> sweet!
* gchristensen switches
<globin> gchristensen: I know :) going to write to the list soon
<gchristensen> great
<globin> gchristensen: currently you probably need to reboot to fix security wrapper stuff..
<gchristensen> ok
<clever> i did help somebody a few days ago that had sudo up and vanish
<clever> gchristensen: if you know your going to reboot anyways, its usualy safer/faster to use "nixos-rebuild boot", that wont activate until after the reboot
<gchristensen> :)
<clever> and also, this new install of hydra i have, doesnt seem capable of using the binary cache directly
<clever> its making the build slave do every single binary cache fetch
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<gchristensen> you have to enable substitutions in the evaluator
<clever> ah, hydra.useSubstitutes
<gchristensen> ok rebooting to 17.03
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGw7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 095cf1b Anders Papitto: Revert "buildRustPackage: fix deprecated use of registry.index config key"...
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<gchristensen> LGTM ship it
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 ac396e9 Anders Papitto: Revert "buildRustPackage: fix deprecated use of registry.index config key"...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3deb85b Gregor Kleen: locate: fix security.wrappers
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 bd265c5 Gregor Kleen: locate: fix security.wrappers...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGoP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 085502d Katona László: cytoscape: fixed issue with startup script
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d9b9f95 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23348 from Mounium/cytoscape...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Kendos-Kenlen opened pull request #23387: atom: 1.14.3 -> 1.14.4 (master...atom) https://git.io/vyGKT
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<gchristensen> globin: did you backport the rust patches to 17.03? does it need to be in 16.09?
<gchristensen> fpletz: should dhparams-init be a running service, even if I'm not using it?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c1866ca Robin Gloster: libsForQt5.qmltermwidget: fix build
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 a0296b2 Katona László: cytoscape: fixed issue with startup script...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 c0d8c6e Robin Gloster: libsForQt5.qmltermwidget: fix build...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ttuegel opened pull request #23388: NixOS: Plasma 5 tests and warnings (master...nixos-plasma5) https://git.io/vyG14
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6034d42 Robin Gloster: btrfs-dedupe: dependency is broken on i686
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGMB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 0bbcbd2 Robin Gloster: btrfs-dedupe: dependency is broken on i686...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ttuegel pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGME
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b955f27 Thomas Tuegel: elpa-packages: 2017-03-01
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 00f28d7 Thomas Tuegel: melpa-packages: 2017-03-01
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 60d1915 Thomas Tuegel: melpa-stable-packages: 2017-03-01
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGMr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 869bc1c Gauthier POGAM--LE MONTAGNER: atom: 1.14.3 -> 1.14.4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 45a86b0 Tim Steinbach: Merge pull request #23387 from Kendos-Kenlen/atom...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGMS
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5ce0626 Graham Christensen: kdeFrameworks.kio: patch for insecure URL passing
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vyGMF
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 6469580 Graham Christensen: kdeFrameworks.kio: patch for insecure URL passing...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGMA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 9daae5b Graham Christensen: kdeFrameworks.kio: patch for insecure URL passing...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vyGDs
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 43e84f4 Graham Christensen: kde.kdelibs: patch for insecure URL passing
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7abda54 Graham Christensen: kdeApplications.kdelibs: patch for insecure URL passing
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 17a3e97 Graham Christensen: kdeApplications.kdelibs: patch for insecure URL passing...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pngwjpgh opened pull request #23389: nitpick: Init at 1.1 (master...nitpick) https://git.io/vyGDp
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<fpletz> gchristensen: no, why should it?
<gchristensen> fpletz: well because it is
<fpletz> hrhr :)
<gchristensen> is why I bring it up, really :P
<fpletz> then let me fix it %)
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<fpletz> gchristensen: nope, it isn't :)
<fpletz> serviceConfig.Type = "oneshot";
<fpletz> it should be activated and running but no service should be running
<gchristensen> yeah, but I don't use it at all, should it have run?
<fpletz> err, no process should be running
<gchristensen> yeah but it _did_ ruun
<fpletz> well, it should run because you could've deactivated dhparams, then it would delete all of them
<gchristensen> gotcha
<Kendos-Kenlen> Little question, are packages tested after compiled ? By running the package' tests as in Gentoo or similar
<clever> Kendos-Kenlen: only if doCheck = true; is set in the derivation
<LnL> yes, we have a checkPhase for packages
<Kendos-Kenlen> mmh
<clever> by default, the checkPhase is disabled, but if you set doCheck = true; it will run "make test" before it does the installPhase
<clever> bbl
<gchristensen> Kendos-Kenlen: do you have a more specific questiontoo?
<Kendos-Kenlen> I see. So, when you compile KDE for exemple, you test all packages ?
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<gchristensen> if they're marked as testable yeah
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<Kendos-Kenlen> gchristensen: no, it's more to understand the build process than doing something in particular
<gchristensen> gotcha
<Kendos-Kenlen> none of them looks to be marked as testable :P
<gchristensen> could be
<gchristensen> :o 354 PRs
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23365: ipfs: 0.4.5 -> 0.4.6 (master...ipfs_0_4_6) https://git.io/vysr1
<LnL> check out ndowens' PRs
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<LnL> I think he created about 40 in the last 2 days :D
<gchristensen> :O
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyG9Y
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1f709ad Itai Zukerman: bazel: add gcc to PATH and simplify patch...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0354985 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #23385 from izuk/bazel...
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<gchristensen> man, what an awesome contributor
<gchristensen> !m ndowens
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, ndowens!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23390: guitarix: webkitgtk2 -> webkitgtk (master...guitarix) https://git.io/vyGHh
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23391: synthv1: 0.7.6 -> 0.8.0 (master...synthv1) https://git.io/vyGQU
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23392: VoiceOfFaust: fix pitchTracker (master...VoiceOfFaust) https://git.io/vyGQG
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon closed pull request #23392: VoiceOfFaust: fix pitchTracker (master...VoiceOfFaust) https://git.io/vyGQG
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] periklis opened pull request #23393: valgrind: enable darwin build (master...topic_valgrind_darwin) https://git.io/vyGQd
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<fxp> i'm trying to compile a linux kernel under my nixos but it fails - due to gcc's hardening options i guess, what should i do ?
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<LnL> you can disable hardening flags
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<avn> Folks, how fetchgit works with ssh protected repos? Using keys of person who perform build?
<jml> where is bootstrapped-pip defined?
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<jml> gchristensen: thanks! I didn't know about that search (github code search couldn't find it)
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<gchristensen> avn: you'd have to use fetchgitPrivate
<LnL> gchristensen: hmm, webkitgtk2 has vulnerabilities but webkitgtk is fine?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23394: VoiceOfFaust: fix pitchTracker (master...VoiceOfFaust) https://git.io/vyG59
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<gchristensen> avn: and your NIX_PATH needs to include `ssh-config-file=/path/to/.ssh/config`
<gchristensen> LnL: sorry?
<LnL> n/m I thought it was 1.x and 2.x
<gchristensen> avn: and the ssh config should, I think, have absolute paths to the IdentityFile and the UserKnownHostsFile
<avn> gchristensen: great, at least I can use it as pattern to implement use-key-from-same-repo feature ;)
<avn> gchristensen: it also won't work with useSandbox (I think)
<LnL> gchristensen: this name is confusing IMHO https://search.nix.gsc.io/?q=webkitgtk2%20%3D&i=nope&files=&repos=
<gchristensen> avn: it does
<gchristensen> oh hrm
<gchristensen> avn: it _should_
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ehmry pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyGF9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 441ad3a ndowens: amtterm: 1.4 -> 1.6-1
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<pierron> is there a way to ask the nix-shell to provide a FHS env for running commands?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyGxd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7f31a8e Joachim Fasting: cryptodev: mark as broken for kernels >4.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 499f813 Joachim Fasting: nvidiabl: 0.85 -> 0.87
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c5785dc Joachim Fasting: nvidiabl: mark as broken on kernels >4.4...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 3 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyGxj
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 b42688d Gauthier POGAM--LE MONTAGNER: atom: 1.14.3 -> 1.14.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 b8ae045 Maximilian Güntner: ipfs: 0.4.5 -> 0.4.6...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 b12aacc Itai Zukerman: bazel: add gcc to PATH and simplify patch...
<the-kenny> pierron: I've got a horrible old shell.nix for android in this style
<the-kenny> pierron: 1sec
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<mguentner> gchristensen, avn: I can confirm that fetching from a private git requires useSandbox=false
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<clever> mguentner: i have played with various ways of fetching a private repo
<mguentner> clever: where do you have the key file?
<clever> mguentner: one method i used involved an ssh agent
<clever> i'm looking for the gist
<clever> mguentner: i cant remember if the /tmp/hax path was impacted by sandboxes or not
<clever> mguentner: i also recently found a trick that works for cases where you control hydra
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<clever> mguentner: if you just "sudo -u hydra -i" and "ssh-keygen", then the hydra-evaluator will have a keypair, and it can checkout git projects over ssh
<clever> in my latest case, the source is in the same repo as the release.nix, so that 1 fetch by hydra is all that needs a key, and the actual build can be done without fetchgitprivate
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<mguentner> clever: nice! thank you so much
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<mguentner> avn: ^
<clever> the reason i needed to add socat into the mix, is because the ssh-agent can detect when the "wrong" user is connecting to the unix socket
<clever> so even if you try to authorize it by using chmod on the unix socket, the agent rejects it hard
<clever> the socat is running as root, so it gets an exception, and it acts as a proxy, stripping that user info from the session
<clever> but as others mentioned in the issue, it would greatly simplify things if nix-build and nix-daemon did that agent proxy
<clever> it could potentialy even allow it to work with remote build slaves
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<avn> clever: good note. But I think, I use fetchgitPrivate as example to write `ssh -i ${./identity}` to script ;)
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<clever> avn: and now your private key is in the store, and depending on what else you have configured (hydra, nix-serve) available for the world to download
<clever> avn: and even if those arent enabled, any user on the machine can read it via ls -l /nix/store/*identity
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyZf2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9852386 Jörg Thalheim: highlight: disable darwin build...
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<avn> clever: I see, we have nix-serve, but in trusted network
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<avn> clever: may be worth to post issue to nix about proxying ssh agent?
<clever> yeah
<gchristensen> it would be super super nice if there was a way to run one of our VMs and be dropped in to a shell
<gchristensen> a bash shell
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<clever> gchristensen: i might have something for that, i'll look at it after i finish this issue
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<hopio3151> Could someone please explain the purpose of this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/055c0f4405cf72af40f063919a04590a893ba782#diff-b868212404d6c3cfbef4b767b494f70eL76 ? My update is failing "with undefined variable ‘qt5’ at /nix/store/k888yfl7a8abcy9y6ac1qswl8wzaq6lj-nixos-17.09pre102441.45344fd/nixos/pkgs/desktops/lxqt/default.nix:74:7"
<gchristensen> really? I've found: `QEMU_NET_OPTS="hostfwd=tcp::2223-:22" tests='startAll; joinAll;' ./result/bin/nixos-run-vms` then ssh to port 2223, but it is a bit messy
<LnL> clever: do you know if it's possible to disable downloads from hydra?
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<clever> LnL: what kind of downloads?
<clever> gchristensen: with -serial stdio or -serial mon:stdio, you get a serial port on stdin/stdout
<clever> gchristensen: and nixos can run a shell on that
<LnL> of store paths
<clever> LnL: from the binary cache?, that appears to be off by default in the newer versions of hydra
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<LnL> oh
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<LnL> so people can't use it as a cache but they can download a closure of a job?
<clever> LnL: oh, downloading from hydra, not hydra itself downloading
<gchristensen> clever: what do I pass that to?
<clever> LnL: the only method i can see is to block /*.narinfo and /nar/* in the http server that protects hydra, but that stops all cache access
<clever> gchristensen: qemu, let me double-check the source
<LnL> hmm, that could also work
<Unode> hi guys, there was some conversation going on some time ago about adding overlays to nixpkgs so people could easily extend them without having to keep a tree manually syncronized with the official nixpkgs. Has this seen any recent progress?
<gchristensen> Unode: it is merged and will be in 17.03
<clever> gchristensen: QEMU_OPTS is an env variable that result/bin/nixos-run-vm will obey, and virtualisation.qemu.options would let you embed it in from the configuration.nix
<Unode> gchristensen: is there documentation for it? I'd like to try it for some software I've been keeping in parallel.
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<Unode> gchristensen: thanks
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<gchristensen> you're welcome
<gchristensen> clever: it doesn't seem to actually drop me at a shell though
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<clever> gchristensen: it appears to drop me at a login prompt, so the normal auto-login is needed
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<gchristensen> clever: can you paste exactly what you're running?
<clever> gchristensen: confirming it works and then uploading to github
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<clever> gchristensen: i forgot that the nixos module already gives a login prompt on stdio when you turn graphics off, so it just needs some auto-login in mingetty
<clever> just nix-build && ./result/bin/run-nixos-vm
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<gchristensen> clever: with QEMU_OPTS="-serial stdio"?
<clever> the -nographic from virtualisation.graphics = false; already routes the serial port to stdio
<clever> so that isnt needed
<gchristensen> clever: ack, so, I thought it was the same -- maybe it isn't the same -- is I'm trying to do this with a nixos test's vm
<clever> oh, the test vm's
<clever> let me check their source
<gchristensen> sorry for not specifying earlier
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<clever> gchristensen: ah, those do have a side-channel that includes a root shell, let me find it
<clever> gchristensen: this runs a root shell on /dev/hvc0, which the perl scripts use to control the VM's during testing
<gchristensen> yeah but that is only for the $machine-> commands, isn't really intended to be interactive
<clever> gchristensen: then lines 120 and 147 of this file: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/lib/test-driver/Machine.pm#L120
<clever> when the perl script starts a vm, uts using the qemu options on line 145
<clever> gchristensen: oh, then your previous question may work then, try QEMU_OPTS="-serial stdio" ./result/bin/run-nixos-vms
<gchristensen> unfortunately not, because I'm attached to the test driver's perl script
<gchristensen> maybe what I should do is use (import <nixpkgs/nixos> { inherit configuration; }).vm when I want to interact with it, and pass configuration to the test env when I want to test it.
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<gchristensen> instead of trying to patch in this interactivity support to the test infra
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<bruce_jhonny> hello
<clever> gchristensen: i did see a comment about interactive debuging if it fails with -K
<gchristensen> oh?
<gchristensen> there is a lot of hidden secrets in this test code :)
<bruce_jhonny> does anyone has an example of configuration.nix seting wifi name and key for network manager?
<bruce_jhonny> *setting
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<gchristensen> O.O clever
<clever> gchristensen: but reading this further, i believe this is only for when you wrap a derivation with vmTools.runInLinuxVM
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<clever> gchristensen: it fires up a whole qemu, and then runs your original builder script as stage2
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz opened pull request #23396: zfs.autoScrub service: init (master...feature/zfs-auto-scrub) https://git.io/vyZLb
<clever> i dont know if the test framework goes thru that route or not, and some tests may involve rebooting and wouldnt be happy with this kind of change
<gchristensen> yeah
<gchristensen> ok
<gchristensen> so I'm thinking I'll go the route of swapping out between the test infra and the (import <nixpkgs/nixos> { inherit configuration; }).vm approach
<clever> gchristensen: i have been thinking about a similar problem in https://gist.github.com/cleverca22/010456d1d1895f760bd8244fd62ffd9f
<avn> fpletz: btw, do you know if it possible to defer swap-on-zfs out of stage1 phase of boot?
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<clever> gchristensen: the shutdown on line 31 gets in the way when i'm trying to do manual testing, but any change to that config eats another gig of disk space
<fpletz> avn: what do you mean? iirc swap on zfs is not possible, right?
<gchristensen> haha nice
<avn> fpletz: it works, on zvol
<fpletz> hrm, interesting %)
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<avn> so it `wait while /dev/zvol/tank/swap` appears around 10-20 sec right after importing pool
<gchristensen> wow you are using swap AND zfs?
<clever> avn: ive heard of issues with swap on zvol, so my laptop has swap on lvm, and zfs on lvm
<avn> actually 64m of swap used now ;)
<clever> and then the whole lvm is on luks!
<avn> but I have problems, because I turn dedup on (hardlinking of /nix/store is safer than zfs dedup, proved)
<clever> avn: what kind of problems?, one of my zfs machines has very weird issues
<gchristensen> clever: I've integrated `expect` support in to my testing framework: https://gist.github.com/grahamc/c4b23624c6ead06c47c330154ad4c1b8
<avn> clever: ddt take lot of memory, and I had very low performance on write
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<gchristensen> you okay, stites?
<clever> gchristensen: i'm also in the middle of redoing the test framework for one of my network protocols, its some custom binary stuff over SSL
<avn> clever: little chat on #zfsonlinux was helpful, they suggest me to off dedup and turn on compression=lz4 everywhere
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyZmR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 75e85ca Franz Pletz: linux: enable FOU tunnels and VRF interfaces
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 49bdf98 Franz Pletz: linux: IPV6_FOU_TUNNEL is available since 4.7
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<clever> avn: ive done the math on my DDT and its not taking up enough memory to cause my issues, and all future dedup is off
<avn> clever: when dedup is on -- zfs keep sha256 of each _record_ in memory
<clever> avn: but its weird, it just randomly stops all disk io, 0 io/sec
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# zpool status -D
<clever> dedup: DDT entries 1000631, size 1106 on disk, 357 in core
<avn> clever: yes, so I move files out of dedup now
<LnL> clever: nice! I've wanted a bunch of times when I was doing stuff over ssh
<avn> `zdb -DD pool` tell more
<clever> this says that there are 1 million records, and they take 357 bytes each in ram
<clever> 340mb of ram
<pierron> the-kenny: Thanks for the trick with the shellHook to start the FHS env.
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<clever> i have had updatedb crippled the machine, even when it had 2gig of ram free
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<clever> avn: so i cant see the DDT being the cause
<the-kenny> pierron: You're welcome. I actually got this trick from somewhere else, but I forgot where
<avn> clever: I have 16m records ;)
<avn> (now 13 ;))
<clever> avn: ow!
<clever> avn: the really really weird part of my problem, is that when zfs decides to stop disk io, it tends to spinlock whatever core it was on
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<avn> some old guides suggests 4k block for bittorrend dataset. I found 64k works better
<the-kenny> pierron: maybe!
<clever> avn: and often, it can spinlock all 8 cores, and now the machine is just locked up solid
<clever> avn: but, if i replug any usb device, it resumes all disk io like nothing was ever wrong
<the-kenny> pierron: time sounds right, this project is almost two years old now :)
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<avn> clever: I see, but I can't prove that all cores spinlocked. And show it to zfs folks
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<clever> avn: i have talked to the zfs channels a few times
<clever> avn: biggest problem debuging it, is that when all core spinlock, i have no way to control it to get a backtrace, i need to look into getting either a pcie serial card, or usb debugging
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<amosbird> hi
<amosbird> how is nix compared to snap?
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<gchristensen> amosbird: how does it work that you can nix-build test.nix or nix-build test.nix -A driver?
<LnL> nix is just a regular package manager like apt
<ikwildrpepper> amosbird: snappy?
<gchristensen> sorry ... clever ^
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<amosbird> cool, thanks
<clever> gchristensen: sounds like a derivation just has an attribute on it, containing another derivation
<avn> amosbird: but I think you can brew snap images from /nix/store with some little coding
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d356ff 3noch: Disable large address space in GHC iOS X compiler...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4b77d42 3noch: Fix GHCJS HEAD patch; support GHCJS libdir link; use full ghcEnv for GHCJS...
<gchristensen> clever: I don't think I realized you could do that.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] cstrahan closed pull request #23199: Changes needed by Reflex Platform (master...reflex-platform-changes) https://git.io/vyZsC
<clever> gchristensen: every attribute you pass to a derivation, can still be read from the resulting derivation, and you can // more attributes ontop of it
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<gchristensen> I've been reading that trying to figure out it can work like that :P
<gchristensen> didn't realize you could drv // attrset
<clever> nix-repl> (builtins.derivation { name = "foo"; system = builtins.currentSystem; builder = "/bin/sh"; }).name
<clever> "foo"
<LnL> gchristensen: type { type = "derivation"; } in nix-repl :)
<clever> nix-repl> ( (builtins.derivation { name = "foo"; system = builtins.currentSystem; builder = "/bin/sh"; }) // { bar = "baz"; }).bar
<clever> "baz"
<clever> nix-repl> "${ { type = "derivation"; outPath = "foo"; } }"
<clever> "foo"
<clever> gchristensen: or even this, lol
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<amosbird> um, does nix use its own libc?
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<clever> amosbird: it uses normal glibc, which is stored in /nix/store/
<LnL> yes, we package glibc
<amosbird> which version is that?
<clever> amosbird: on my system, 2.24
<amosbird> ok, how does it handle old kernel?
<clever> ive not noticed any problems, and ive ran it on a 3.8 machine
<Dezgeg> it goes down to 3.0 at least
<amosbird> well, mine is 2.6
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<LnL> in theory you could cherry-pick an old kernel version and see what happens :)
<amosbird> huh
<amosbird> nix also manages kernel version?
<gchristensen> amosbird: are you trying to solve a particular problem? Nix only manages your kernel if you use NixOS.
<LnL> we have a couple of versions and you could override it with your own
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<LnL> but that's probably not the best idea :)
<amosbird> gchristensen: well, I'd like to use nix on Centos 6 to get newer tools
<LnL> oh, why do you care about the kernel then?
<LnL> that would still be managed by centos
<gchristensen> that should work I think
<Dezgeg> glibc does not necessarily work with really old kernels
<gchristensen> ah..
<clever> LnL: the glibc that nix-env downloads may not like the centos kernel
<clever> id just try it, and see what happens
<Dezgeg> 'file' reports 'for GNU/Linux 2.6.32' (as does binaries in arch linux)
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<LnL> right, that would make things complicated
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<johnw> having a Nix meetup in SF tonight, if anyone is nearby
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<gchristensen> nice, johnw!
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<gchristensen> unfortunately it is a bit too far to travel
<amosbird> hmm
<amosbird> I just installed nix
<amosbird> error: getting status of ‘/home/amos/default.nix’: No such file or directory
<johnw> command?
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<amosbird> nix-shell
<the-kenny> well just `nix-shell` checks for default.nix in the current directory and gives you a shell with the environment to build the derivation in there
<the-kenny> try `nix-shell -p zsh`
<amosbird> ah
<amosbird> thanks
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<greymalkin> Is there an expression that I can investigate (with nix-repl) that shows nix services -- even if I don't have nixos, but rather just nix on arch?
<clever> greymalkin: nix-repl -I nixos-config=./configuration.nix '<nixpkgs/nixos>'
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<amosbird> um
<amosbird> how can I use nix to install gcc?
<clever> amosbird: you generaly dont install tools like gcc with nix, but rather, you open a shell with it available: nix-shell -p gcc
<clever> include files are usualy ignored by nix-env -i, so libraries only work if you run nix-shell -p on the derivations
<amosbird> ok
<amosbird> how does nix handle pip install, npm install and the like
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<simpson> amosbird: Mostly by not allowing them.
<simpson> You can still set up a Python virtualenv if you really want.
<amosbird> oh
<amosbird> so nix doesn't manage packages in python and node
<simpson> No, Nix definitely supports Python and JS and a bunch of other things.
<simpson> It just doesn't let you type $(pip install) directly.
<simpson> amosbird: For example, try $(nix-shell -p pythonPackages.pygments) and then you should have the `pygmentize` command available!
<amosbird> wow
<amosbird> that's cool
<amosbird> hmm, I'm thinking switching to nixos from arch
<simpson> Yep. nix-shell subsumes language-specific virtual environments.
<clever> and also gives virtenv style effects on all languages
<amosbird> how does it manage user local packages?
<clever> so i can just "nix-shell -p nmap" any time i want to do a quick port scan, and once i exit the shell, nmap is gone
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<clever> amosbird: i generaly define those in ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix as proper nix packages, then all of the nix tools will know how to build them
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<amosbird> um
<amosbird> I meant packages with rapidly development
<amosbird> I develop a bunch of projects and I need to make install them quite often. How can this fit in nixos?
<clever> make a default.nix for that project and run nix-build or nix-shell against it
<gchristensen> clever: this has been the biggest yak shave today :P
<simpson> amosbird: I have default.nix and some Nix support expressions defined; to test my project, I run something like $(nix-build -A monte) and it builds everything for me.
<amosbird> ok, i see
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<LnL> amosbird: you can also use nix-shell to get a shell with the build environment of a package
<amosbird> does nix have a default shell?
<amosbird> default.nix ?
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<LnL> then you get an interactive nix-build session that you can use for incremental builds
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<simpson> amosbird: There's no "default" nix-shell. default.nix is just the default filename to load if you point Nix at a folder instead of a file.
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<LnL> maybe nix-shell -p stdenv?
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<hyper_ch> where's my vcunat?
<gchristensen> hyper_ch: vcunat doesn't use IRC
<hyper_ch> oh noes
<hyper_ch> I'm sure he did use to
<gchristensen> used to
<hyper_ch> why doesn't he anymore?
<gchristensen> dunno
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<hyper_ch> :(
<gchristensen> hasn't in like a year or more
<MichaelRaskin> Well, #nixos is getting busier and busier over time
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<hyper_ch> gchristensen: [18:31] [Notice] -NickServ- Last seen : Feb 04 21:34:10 2017 (3w 4d 19h ago)
<hyper_ch> that's not quite a year
<gchristensen> yeah but logging in for a second vs _using_ it
<hyper_ch> :(
<clever> 2017-02-04 17:17:00< vcunat> I haven't noticed any slowness (vim + C), but I haven't used it on any really big project either
<clever> 2017-02-04 17:17:20< vcunat> (and the machine is rather fast :-)
<clever> 2017-02-04 17:34:10-!- vcunat [~admin@nat-34.starnet.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
<hyper_ch> he did reply to my bug report attachement :(
<clever> and he was online for ~1.5 hours, a month ago
<hyper_ch> hi clever, long time not seen
<LnL> I remember that message :)
<clever> 2017-01-04 04:39:31-!- vcunat [~admin@nat-34.starnet.cz] has joined #nixos
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<clever> he seems to connect on the 4th of every month? heh
<gchristensen> [0__0]: seen kmicu
<[0__0]> Yes, I saw kmicu 1 month ago.
<[0__0]> kmicu said: "gchristensen: ah, that chapter is not updated since 1.6 with ‘Nix now has proper integer arithmetic operators. For instance, you can write x + y instead of builtins.add x y, or x < y instead of builtins.lessThan x y. The comparison operators also work on strings.’."
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<clever> what the...., 4th of dec as well!
<LnL> somebody said that kmicu was back this week
<clever> hyper_ch: if this pattern holds, he is due back in 2 days :P
<gchristensen> LnL: what? really? I had a dream he was back. heh.
<hyper_ch> :)
<LnL> well I'm not sure why they said it, I have not seen him either
<gchristensen> LnL: looking at my history, all mentions of them are me asking [0__0] when it lost saw them
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<LnL> oh really?
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<gchristensen> for 2 months now, yeah
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<LnL> Strange. I'll grep through my logs when I'm at my computer,
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<paperd> Anyone at SCaLE?
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<gchristensen> clever: so I've got a login screen... how do I kill it?? :o
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<LnL> gchristensen: the vm? poweroff
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<gchristensen> d'oh
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyZan
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b59fd85 Leon Isenberg: haskell: ghc710x packages: fix gtk2hs-buildtools
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1a4ec41 Leon Isenberg: haskell: ghc710x packages: fix megaparsec
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 027ffb6 Peter Simons: Merge pull request #23252 from ljli/ghc7103-pkgs-fixes...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] knedlsepp opened pull request #23400: docopt.cpp: init at 0.6.2 (master...add_docopt_cpp) https://git.io/vyZaB
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<LnL> gchristensen: I was thinking of 2017-02-28 [17:49:43] <jophish_> is kmicu back?!
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<gchristensen> ah
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<dtzWill> yay 17.03 channel \o/
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<Ralith> gchristensen: how's the gpu support on your 9560, btw?
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<gchristensen> Ralith: it renders my text terminal and gui emacs just fine
<Ralith> haven't mucked about with the nvidia stuff yet?
<gchristensen> no
<Ralith> I'm pretty sketched out by the whole gpu switching stack
<gchristensen> and unfortunately I've discovered I'm bitten by a fairly nasty problem of key-repeat, it makes my typo-count skyrocket
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<Ralith> would be happier if I could just buy one with no discrete gpu at all
<gchristensen> same
<gchristensen> but still lots of ram and a good CPU :)
<Ralith> yeah
<Ralith> is key repeat fixable in software?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b0ae3c1 Renaud: httping 2.5: fetch over https + license
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a9700f7 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: Merge pull request #23401 from c0bw3b/pkg/httping...
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<gchristensen> no
<gchristensen> I mean, maybe
<gchristensen> but it isn't a simple key-repeat config option. I'll type "tear" and get out "teare"
<LnL> Ralith: as in xset r rate?
<Ralith> o_O
<Ralith> LnL: that's the sort of thing I had in mind
<gchristensen> lol yeah it isn't that easy
<pikajude> meh
<LnL> give me a sec
<pikajude> i have to use xset even though i've configured xserver to set the repeat rate on its own
<pikajude> not sure what's up with that
<Ralith> gchristensen: perhaps a debouncing issue?
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<LnL> the second command is to replace capslog with ctrl
<Ralith> LnL: not sure why you're linking me this, I was commenting on gchristensen's issue
<Nafai> Ralith: I have a Thinkpad with one of the Nvidia Optimus cards (with the discrete GPU). I have not been able to get it to drive an external monitor, quite frustrating.
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<LnL> Ralith: err, didn't read everything :p
<Ralith> Nafai: mucked about with xrandr's provider/source/sink stuff?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 53b059a Jörg Thalheim: miniupnpc: switch to old version by default...
<Ralith> LnL: personally I like using xserver.xkbOptions for the layout tweaking though
<Nafai> Yeah, I think so. I kind of gave up on it after a week of messing around when I got the machine about a year ago. Can't remember all I tried.
<Ralith> that way it applies on startup, not after login
<LnL> right, I don't remember why I did this
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<gchristensen> Ralith: some of the discussions on the Arch message board talk about the GPU settings fixing key repeat (?)
<Ralith> o_O
<Ralith> wacky
<gchristensen> very wacky, and a bit distressing
<pikajude> wot
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<dtzWill> o_O re:key-repat. gchristensen did you try the kernel patch thing? I've used that and haven't seen any keyboard strangeness (although I'm still getting used to it)
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<dtzWill> I'm using an overlay for that, something like: http://ix.io/nTi fwiw
<dtzWill> but I also disable the nvidia gpu while on linux for now O:). So maybe that's related.
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<gchristensen> dtzWill: the kernel patch seems to just be forcing the acpi rev, which I've done via kernel parameters
<gchristensen> <details>
<gchristensen> <summary>**CLICK TO EXPAND**</summary>
<gchristensen> </details>
<gchristensen> oops..
<dtzWill> oh, it was my understanding (via the arch thread) that doing it via the patch resulted in a state unobtainable w/the kernel params, somehow. Hmm, I might've been wrong.
<gchristensen> I might be wrong, too :)
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<MichaelRaskin> I dunno re: discrete GPU, not having one at all would make sense, but Asus designs switching well enough that it is a useful addition, not an annoying problem. ThnikPad's are done badly, but still fixable
<LnL> why was I even worried about upgrading
<simpson> LnL: Training?
<gchristensen> LnL: are you on 17.03?
<dtzWill> oh I see re:the kernel bug, the acpi_rev might indeed be the same (just following-up b/c while I'm happy to admit I'm wrong I'd rather sort out what the right answer is if I can hehe)
<LnL> gchristensen: yep, I even ran nixos-version to make *really* sure it actually happend :D
<dtzWill> I'd love to get the switching working, just wanted something low-power and stable until I can tackle making all that work....
<MichaelRaskin> Does you card work with nouveau?
<dtzWill> it sure seemed to? :)
<gchristensen> how do I setup switching? I'd be happy to try it
<Ralith> MichaelRaskin: asus? the 9560 is a dell product
<MichaelRaskin> Well, I cannot speak for Dell
<Ralith> do they manufacture parts, or something?
<MichaelRaskin> Asus and Lenovo I have tried
<MichaelRaskin> Optimus is almost the same everywhere, but there are details
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<Nafai> I'd like to figure out the Optimus on my Thinkpad. I'd like to use an external monitor with it.
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: first you switch on Optimus in BIOS and force-set nouveau and modesetting as the only drivers in X.org
<MichaelRaskin> Nafai: that's what Asus gets right — in the Optimus mode Intel vard drives all the outputs
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<dtzWill> interesting. btw y'all getting crazy tearing w/intel (even modesetting)? >.< had to force to DRI 2
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<MichaelRaskin> And Nvidia is just for rendering
<schell> o/
<MichaelRaskin> Theoretically (for me — even practically) Bumblebee is obsolete
<dtzWill> oh okay I think that's mostly what that issue I linked was saying. So it just.. works? o_O
<MichaelRaskin> Even in DRI2 mode, xrandr --setprovideroutputsource 1 0; xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink 1 0
* dtzWill gives suspicious too-good-to-be-true look ;)
<MichaelRaskin> I have used the dirtiest hacks out there (no really), but now this works for me
<MichaelRaskin> To good to be true is when you use DRI3 and it happens to work — then it sets up offloading automatically
<MichaelRaskin> I have DRI2 and I could try to check for tearing if anyoune told me how
<dtzWill> MichaelRaskin: not that our hardware is necessarily comparable, but just curious: in your various experiences w/intel<-->* switching/etc have you had any tearing probelms?
<dtzWill> oh hehe
<dtzWill> honestly just scrolling a textual thread in chromium and you can see it D:
<MichaelRaskin> Chromium? What is it?
<MichaelRaskin> OK, will check
<dtzWill> little more description with an example: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/19231
<dtzWill> video often too but I'm more.. tolerant of that? it's scrolling text and seeing it tear that makes me super-sad lol
<dtzWill> apparently for some compton with some vsync args fixes it, but not for me AFAICT--had to force DRI2 instead
<MichaelRaskin> I use DRI2 now
<dtzWill> oh, okay, yeah that fixes the issue for me. Why'd you set DRI2 if not for the tearing? other issues/reasons?
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<pikajude> ooh, I just found out about callHackage
<pikajude> it's great
<MichaelRaskin> For me scrolling blurs but not tears
<dtzWill> now if I could find a reasonable way to bind something like shift+arrows to pageup/pagedown... lol
<MichaelRaskin> WM should be able to, but Shift-Arrow is useful for selection
<dtzWill> yeah it seems to kinda blur for me too haha I thought maybe that was the normal behavior? idk
<pikajude> scrolling blurs for me too
<pikajude> it used to do both
<MichaelRaskin> I have set AIGLX to true long long ago, and I do not explicitly set DRI level and I get DRI2
<pikajude> there was some xorg config line I found online that helped with the tearing
<pikajude> but the blurring gets less bad
<MichaelRaskin> I can tell some stories of how things failed with ThinkPad's weird GPU layout, these stories would explain why as soon as I got what I wanted working, I stopped tuning
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<dtzWill> welp i'll try the kernel param instead of patch, let's see how this goes... :)
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<MichaelRaskin> I guess when my update finishes, I can try to launch a second X with explicit DRI3…
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<MichaelRaskin> Although maybe I can do it without waiting for a rebuild
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<dtzWill> http://ix.io/nTl looks like nouveau doesn't like the gtx 1050 after all? (cc gchristensen)
<gchristensen> huh
<dtzWill> or am I misunderstanding "unknown chipset?" lol. Sorry don't mean to spread misinformation :)
<gchristensen> I have no idea :P
<dtzWill> apparently nouveau /just/ got support for our cards? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Novueau-Pascal-Consumer-Accel :)
<dtzWill> 4.12 eta? :(
<MichaelRaskin> Well, I guess the Recent Incident may have had a role
<gchristensen> I'm not too surprised, Kaby Lake is super new
<gchristensen> derp those are unrelated
<gchristensen> anyway. the computer is very new :)
<dtzWill> yeah, no worries at all
<dtzWill> in fact I'm excited, I was kinda disappointed when most everything kinda jsut worked haha
<gchristensen> do you _not_ get key repeat?
<gchristensen> because that is a big thing I'd like to not be broken :)
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<gchristensen> dtzWill: I bet we could create our own patches to apply to the kernel to get a newer novueau.
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<Heffalump> is there an easy way to install nix from git using nixpkgs? I see there's a fromGit parameter in the derivation, but I'm not sure how to pass that from the command-line.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 82d3f92 Dmitry Kalinkin: fakeroot: add darwin support...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cd92980 Daiderd Jordan: Merge pull request #23380 from veprbl/fakeroot_darwin...
<dtzWill> gchristensen: I switched to the kernel param method since \o/ no patching, but I do seem to be making more typos than normal. Didn't think it was a key-repeat/key-bounce issue but I'll try to be wary...
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<gchristensen> dtzWill: try typing asdf over and over and also using the track pad
<dtzWill> oh I /do/ have disableWhileTyping set on libinput? but okay
<gchristensen> oh I may try that
<gchristensen> but try it anyway -- just draw a circle the whole time you're doing asdf
<dtzWill> just saw it and was like hey that sounds useful xD
<dtzWill> asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdffasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdffasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] clemensmanert opened pull request #23403: Feat termdown at 1.11.0 (master...feat-termdown-at-1.11.0) https://git.io/vyZyN
<gchristensen> lol into a scratch tab :P
<dtzWill> (lol probably shouldn't have sent that sorry folks :D) Few double-f's in there
<dtzWill> dishonor upon me, dishonor upon my family D:
<dtzWill> MichaelRaskin: if "xrandr --listproviders" only shows 'intel'... I'm doing something wrong, right? haha O:)
<LnL> rofl
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<MichaelRaskin> dtzWill: are you the same person who pasted a refusal by nouveau to fina a card because the chipset is too new?
<dtzWill> uhh I don't think so. I could be? but not that I'm aware of...
<dtzWill> oh you mean the log message? yes lol O:)
<MichaelRaskin> <dtzWill> http://ix.io/nTl looks like nouveau doesn't like the gtx 1050
<MichaelRaskin> I have previously seen instances where non-working device drivers have impeded device usage.
<dtzWill> amusingly I actually didn't have 'nouveau' in my xorg drivers list on that boot, added it and now I can't find that message. I know, that sounds silly for a few reasons, but... lol
<MichaelRaskin> lsmod | grep nouveau
<dtzWill> lmao, indeed they might be related!
<dtzWill> yeah it's loaded
<dtzWill> maybe the phoronix thing was just lack of accel support, which I'd guess means it doesn't support offloading until then either
<dtzWill> I just wanted confirmation the provider should be listed always, isn't like lazily activated or something
<MichaelRaskin> And what does dmesg say about nouveau?
<MichaelRaskin> Should always be listed, yes
<dtzWill> okay. I'm doing too many things at once, blargh, sorry. It's in the dmesg this time, probably was before and I typo'd nouveau or something? idk O:).
<MichaelRaskin> Listing providers powers on the nvidia card on my notebook
<dtzWill> neat, ty
<dtzWill> but yeah as far as explanations go, nouveau complaining unknown chipset sure seems like the likely cause xD :).
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<MichaelRaskin> Maybe glamor enforces DRI3 for me
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<MichaelRaskin> I mean, enforces DRI2
<MichaelRaskin> Which I don't enable, though, but it still gets loaded
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1b98752 rnhmjoj: gitfs: 0.2.5 -> 0.4.5.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0c24151 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #23398 from rnhmjoj/gitfs...
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<gchristensen> yeah, I changed hardware.bumblebee.enable = true and optirun glxgears gets me like 4x the framerate and /proc/acpi/bbswitch reports on, MichaelRaskin / dtzWill
<MichaelRaskin> But you have an actually supported card?
<gchristensen> this is with the nvidia driver and linux 4.9
<dtzWill> interesting! Does nouveau not complain for you? Or did you use the nvidia driver patched?
<MichaelRaskin> Or do you use bumblebee with nvidia drivers?
<dtzWill> or 4.9 :) xD
<gchristensen> nvidia + 4.9
<MichaelRaskin> Oh
<MichaelRaskin> (before my current setup I ran bumblebee-on-nouveau)
<gchristensen> the bumblebee docs say to not use nouveau(sp?)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #23330: erlangR19: 19.2 -> 19.2.3 (master...update/pkgs/development/interpreters/erlang/R19) https://git.io/vyOwn
<MichaelRaskin> Well, for cards that are well supported by mouveau, the situation is not that clear
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<gchristensen> I can suspend/resume still, and if I run optirun glxgears and then suspend it has a Graphics Exception and glxgears has to be shut down and started again, but does so fine
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<MichaelRaskin> Hm, good question
<MichaelRaskin> How do you run glxgears without vsync?
<gchristensen> I don't know what that means (embarrassed)
<MichaelRaskin> Well, by default it simply has 60 FPS for me, because it redraws on the monitor refresh
<gchristensen> ah
<gchristensen> when I run it without optirun, it says it is sync'd to the vertical refresh rate, and is showing 60FPS.
<gchristensen> `optirun glxgears` doesn't have that notice about the vertical refresh, and says 180FPS
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<MichaelRaskin> This is called not passing vsync data, not improving performance
<gchristensen> ah, hehe
* gchristensen has no idea what he's doing
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<gchristensen> my biggest interest is in my keyboard not doing invalid key-repeats, I hear turning on the second GPU fixes it. battery life is also quite important to me, so I'd prefer it off for this.
<MichaelRaskin> I wonder if unwanted keyboard events are the special curse of Dell
<gchristensen> is it?
<MichaelRaskin> I had an Inspiron keyboard replaced under warranty because the original keyboard was sure that every time I press s I _also_ want d
<gchristensen> I mean, did you not?
<MichaelRaskin> Sometimes not immediately
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<gchristensen> I would have sduggesdted jusdt amending all your wordsd to have a d after each sd.
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<MichaelRaskin> But the keyboard wasn't thrilled by the idea of letting me fit other keypresses between w and e (it was a busted linie)
<gchristensen> oy
<gchristensen> so I just typed "-sn" and got out "-sns"
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: I would consider your proposal if you took it seriously enough to change the nick for this message
<gchristensen> hah
<gchristensen> I forgot about the `s` in my nick :(
<MichaelRaskin> Well, you will need a second s eventually, now you just need to practice fitting all the extra keypresses you want between the repeats!
<gchristensen> now that is efficiency
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<dtzWill> lol apparently the xps13 has a bios update to fix a similar issue D: http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/xps-13--9343--unwanted-keyboard-character-repeat/19/SLN297563/en?lang=EN
<dtzWill> /topic XPS15 on NixOS
<MichaelRaskin> Well, better than physically replacing the keyboard…
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<gchristensen> "I feel terrible that this otherwise fine laptop has such an irritating issue - combined with the fact that I can't get Dell to actually fix it."
<dtzWill> fwiw if I have the issue it seems much less.. pronounced? Just curious, have you grabbed the feb BIOS update?
<dtzWill> doesn't mention anything about this issue, but.. O:)
<clever> gchristensen: this reminds me of a key-repeat issue i had years ago, caused by cpufreq scalling
<clever> gchristensen: in my case, i believe the kernel was trying to calibrate the bogomips thing every time the freq changed, causing a 0.5 second lockup
<gchristensen> dtzWill: link?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] juliendehos opened pull request #23405: pbrt: 2016-05-19 -> 2017-01-12 (master...pbrt) https://git.io/vyZA4
<clever> gchristensen: and because of the rather short keyboard buffer, some key events would be dropped in that 0.5 seconds
<clever> and suddenly, a press + release turns into a press by itself, and key-repeat kicks in!
<gchristensen> dtzWill: I was just looking for this.
<dtzWill> it's like 1 week old lol
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<gchristensen> oh man, not sure I can install it
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<gchristensen> dtzWill: yeah I don't have a windows machine to use that EXE :P
<MichaelRaskin> It cannot run under freedos?
<gchristensen> ooh!
* gchristensen would be lost without y'all
<clever> some of the more powerful firmwares, are capable of connecting to the internet and downloading their own updates
<clever> i found that on one of my EFI motherboards
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<apriori> hello
<apriori> does anyone know how to install qt sdk on nixos?
<apriori> so I can use it from qtcreator?
<clever> apriori: i was only able to get it to work by running qtcreator under a nix-shell that had included QT, and i had to point qtcreator to the path of qmake that nix-shell had setup (which qmake)
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* gchristensen is out of USB drives
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<johnw> MOAR USB DRIVES!!!!
<apriori> clever, hm, would you mind pointing to an example command line?
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<clever> apriori: nix-shell -p qt5.qtbase, then run "which qmake", make note of its path, and run "qtcreator", and configure a kit based on qmake's path
<clever> apriori: sadly, that path will change every time you reboot
<apriori> ouch.
<apriori> okay, thank you.
<clever> yeah
<greymalkin> re nixops: Other than the /etc/hosts file that's generated, is there a way to get the IP of one of the generated hosts as part of the config?
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<apriori> ty again, clever and bb ;)
<smw_> Anyone know why this command would fail?
<smw_> # nix-build /root/nixpkgs/nixos/ -I nixos-config=/root/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix -A config.system.build.sdImage
<smw_> error: attribute ‘sdImage’ in selection path ‘config.system.build.sdImage’ not found
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<clever> greymalkin: its part of an attributeset that nixops passes to your configuration
<smw_> I have a checkout of nixpkgs at head
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] teh closed pull request #23301: purescript: pin dependencies witih callHackage. Closes #23036. (master...i23036) https://git.io/vyYRA
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<clever> smw_: what if you run this: nix-repl /root/nixpkgs/nixos/ -I nixos-config=/root/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-armv7l-multiplatform.nix
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<clever> smw_: and then try to eval config.system.build in the REPL
<smw_> clever: nix-repl: command not found
<smw_> ...
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<clever> smw_: you need to install it first, nix-env -iA nixpkgs.nix-repl
<smw_> error: getting information about ‘/root/.nix-defexpr’: No such file or directory
<smw_> I am starting to think there is something very wrong with my setup :-)
<Kendos-Kenlen> Do you plan to update the nixos iso image and switch to an more recent version of KDE?
<clever> and if you dont have any channel, nix-env -f /root/nixpkgs/ -iA nix-repl
<clever> smw_: .nix-defexpr is setup by nix-channel, but since you cloned nixpkgs, you skipped that step
<smw_> error: attribute ‘platforms’ missing, at /root/.nixpkgs/config.nix:3:14 where config.nix contains pkgs: {platform = pkgs.platforms.raspberrypi2;}
<smw_> clever: this is getting fun :-P
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<smw_> should I just delete my config?
<MichaelRaskin> lib.platforms I guess
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<clever> smw_: i believe the platform is mainly for kernel stuff, so it shouldnt impact nix-repl, you can just rename config.nix temporarily
<smw_> running install
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<clever> heading off to bed
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<romildo> How to easily find the packages that depend on given package in NixOS?
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<v0|d> hello, looking for a way to make xen work w/ efi.
<Mic92> romildo: nix-store --query --referrers $(which ls)
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<Mic92> (inludes only installed dependencies)
<Mic92> *includes
<romildo> Mic92, nixos-rebuild reports that ‘webkitgtk-2.4.11’ is marked as insecure. How can I find which packages depends on it? Notice that I do not have a binary, but the package name.
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<clever> romildo: --show-trace maybe?, *runs off to bed*
<ndowens08> Travis CI seems so unreliable
<smw_> clever: so, I am building perl right now...
<smw_> clever: this can definitely wear on you.
<ndowens08> looks like he/she went to bed
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vynvZ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 197236a Peter Simons: hackage2nix: disable broken builds
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 090921f Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b923fd5 Peter Simons: git-annex 6.20170301.1 tarballs are no longer available anywhere; now we must use fetchgit
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<LnL> ndowens08: don't worry about the travis builds, it's not a requirement to get things merged
<ndowens08> LnL: ik, just would be helpful to see the log, i have one or two that is failing in darwin
<LnL> ping me, I'll test them
<ndowens08> so far seems b/c it is missing gcc but trying to write: if system == x86_64-darwin native..... but build is saying unexpected IF
<LnL> the darwin stdenv uses clang, some packages have gcc hardcoded
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<LnL> I wonder if we should just add a gcc and g++ symlink to the stdenv
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<dgonyeo> I installed the `exfat` package but can't mount an exfat sd card with the error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'", anyone know what I'm missing?
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<LnL> dgonyeo: use boot.supportedFilesystems
<dgonyeo> LnL: awesome, thanks!
<dgonyeo> will that take a reboot to take effect?
<LnL> don't think so
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vynUV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cb13a8c Nikolay Amiantov: openspades: 0.0.12 -> 0.1.1b...
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<ndowens08> LnL: I did nativeBuildInputs = [] ++ stdenv.isDarwin [ gcc ]; do you think that will be fine, there is no other buildinputs, hense why []
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<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: do you reckon wine would work? I'm not too thrilled to install freedos anywhere.
<MichaelRaskin> The whole point of booting freedos off a usb drive is that it gives enough hardware access
<gchristensen> hrm... I was reading the docs and it was focusing on installing to the drive.
<MichaelRaskin> I think
<MichaelRaskin> you can get usb boot docs if you ask for them
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 5435ad7 rnhmjoj: gitfs: 0.2.5 -> 0.4.5.1...
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<mudri> How worried should I be about libplist-1.12 being marked as insecure in nixos-unstable?
<mudri> It seems to be an Apple thing, but I don't have any Apple things.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vynL6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 aa4a99c Peter Simons: Synchronize Haskell infrastructure with 'master' at b923fd5253d797b95b2ce617217954416d827d66.
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<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: yeah all the links I'm finding are dead links
<MichaelRaskin> Like the first link for usb drive freedos and it looks reasonable
<MichaelRaskin> Where does that fail?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 c586ecb Spencer Janssen: cockatrice: 2015-09-24 -> 2017-01-20...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1254f1a Tuomas Tynkkynen: gf2x: Disable i686 build...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 79b276a Tuomas Tynkkynen: gf2x: Disable i686 build...
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<devoid> hi all, I seem to be constantly having problems with my X11 configuration… whenever I change my monitor cabling I have to reconfigure things. For example, right now I'm getting two blank screens on my displayport monitors…
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<devoid> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] (rev a1)
<devoid> 04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0fba (rev a1)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23407: highlight: Add support for darwin, suspecting needs gcc (master...highlight) https://git.io/vynYH
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<devoid> it's super annoying because under Windows I never have any problems with this monitor setup
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<LnL> ndowens08: forgot about your message, that should work :)
<ndowens08> gchristensen: Hey on logcheck, you said hyphen is important, well I tried to put hyphen back in, well it can't find the source b/c it isn't name-version, it is name_version.tar.gz
<ndowens08> LnL: I submitted the change, but I dont have darwin to see if it will build or not
<devoid> But linux is so terrible at dealing with it. Like why does it take 10s to register that I disconnected or plugged in a display? Why do the displays then go into power-saving mode?
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<gchristensen> ndowens08: it is because the name needs to be foo-version, the URL may be foo_version
<ndowens08> hmm think i got it now :)
<LnL> devoid: with the direction osx has been going it's not much better, my macbook needs 30s to discover my usb keyboard
<LnL> ...
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<ndowens08> gchristensen: done
<devoid> LnL indeed, you would think that these heavyweight connectors with high bandwidths would be snappy.
<ndowens08> hmm not showing in changes even though i pushed it
<devoid> But going from VGA > DVI > HDMI > DisplayPort seems to just increase latency and likeyhood of it never connecting.
<ndowens08> ah nvm finally showed up
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<devoid> I don't even know how to debug this… the display-manager logs pretty much stop reporting anything after a while…
<LnL> mudri: not sure, but there are some packages that depend on it
<mudri> LnL: for me, it seems that Clementine depends on it.
<LnL> looking at the website it seems to indicate that 1.2 > 1.12
<LnL> n/m that's another package
<devoid> Is there a way to see what xrandr sees remotely, e.g. over ssh?
<mudri> Oh yeah, it is a bit confusing.
<devoid> I tried doing X11 forwarding but couldn't figure it out
<devoid> I get "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0" when I connect from my OS X machine
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<devoid> This is with "programs.ssh.forwardX11 = true;" and "programs.ssh.setXAuthLocation = true;"
<LnL> ndowens08: did you pull/rebase master? you'll have to add darwin to the platforms again
<ndowens08> LnL: I rebased it to squish commits
<ndowens08> that is weird, showing changes when I looked at the changes tab
<LnL> you change is based on the version before platforms was changed from unix -> linux as far as I can tell
<ndowens08> LnL: huh, not understanding what ya mean exactly
<LnL> it's one of the more confusing things with git
<LnL> if you pull and rebase against master you the platforms should change to linux, then you can enable darwin again in you pr
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<devoid> Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing / getting more information about my X11 issue?
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<LnL> since when are "py" outputs a thing?
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<ndowens08> hmm why is it i am following examples with wrapProgram and they use --prefix but if I try to do it like the examples I get --prefix command not found
<wak-work> probably missing trailing \
<wak-work> on the first line
<ndowens08> did that too
<7ITAANA2T> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vynZS
<7ITAANA2T> nixpkgs/master 33e2393 Bart Brouns: synthv1: 0.7.6 -> 0.8.0
<7GHAAGUSK> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #23391: synthv1: 0.7.6 -> 0.8.0 (master...synthv1) https://git.io/vyGQU
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<nh2> when I nix-build my executable on Ubuntu, nix seems to replace the libssl.so link in ldd by the one in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu instead of using a /nix/store/.../libssl.so, why is that / which part of nix-build does that?
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<Mic92> mudri: it's used in libgpod, usually you don't have to worry about.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 8874e3f Bart Brouns: synthv1: 0.7.6 -> 0.8.0...
<mudri> Mic92: Okay, thanks. :-)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #23408: llvm: 4.0rc2 -> 4rc3 (master...feature/llvm-4-rc3) https://git.io/vynng
<LnL> oh another rc?
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<ndowens08> ok i dont know how to fix this issue LnL: a binary can not find libcrypto, openssl is in buildinputs, I used wrapProgram to --prefix LD_LIBRARY_PATH and well still same result and I did tell it to use makeLibraryPath [ openssl]
<Mic92> devoid1: maybe autorandr is faster
<Mic92> ndowens08: you can also expand the rpath of an executable with patchelf
<Mic92> meaning adding openssl to its path
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 3 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vyncT
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 60a64b2 Joachim Fasting: tor: split out geoip data...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 637337f Joachim Fasting: cryptodev: mark as broken for kernels >4.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 0efeb76 Joachim Fasting: nvidiabl: mark as broken on kernels >4.4...
<nh2> ndowens08: I think I just hit exactly the same problem you describe
<ndowens08> Mic92: sorry, but how do i do that?
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<steveeJ> can someone explain this line from nix-shell to me? $ENV{$_} = $drv->{env}->{$_} foreach keys %{$drv->{env}};
<LnL> ndowens08: you might need to use patchelf or install_name_tool
<steveeJ> I'm no good at perl and I wanna understand how nix-shell populates the environment
<Mic92> ndowens08: you can find examples in nixpkgs
<nh2> patchelf --print-rpath contains all nix paths for me except the ones to libcrypto and libssl
<ndowens08> Mic92: k :)
<LnL> steveeJ: each attribute of a drv is exposed as an environment variable
<nh2> Mic92: somehow patchelf doesn't seem to be called appropriately for libcrypto and libssl in my case, all other nix deps are in the rpath
<nh2> and that is despite openssl being listed in nix-store --query --requisites of my package built with nix-build
<steveeJ> LnL: can you name some keywords for me to lookup in the perl docs? what's the _ pattern called? and the % at the end?
<Mic92> steveeJ: $_ is an implicit variable
<Mic92> its the loop variable in this case
<steveeJ> how can an implicit loop value be in the lvalue :-D
<steveeJ> s/value/variable
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<Dezgeg> that is basically equivalent to foreach keys %{$drv->{env}} { $ENV{$_} = $drv->{env}->{$_} }
<LnL> I htink it's kind of like $@ in bash
<Dezgeg> that is, the loop keyword can be placed at the end of a statement
<Mic92> steveeJ: it is semantically something like this: foreach $a keys %{$drv->{env}} { $ENV{$a} = $drv->{env}->{$a} }
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] florianjacob opened pull request #23409: avahi-daemon service: Add option to enable point-to-point interfaces. (master...avahi-point-to-point-interfaces) https://git.io/vyncp
<LnL> each attribute of the drv get's added as an environment variable
<steveeJ> LnL: filtered by keys though
<Mic92> steveeJ: in nix unstable nix-shell is rewritten in c++, if this is more readable to you
<LnL> not sure what you mean by thatt
<steveeJ> Mic92: I'm on unstable, I wonder why I still have the perl form
<steveeJ> LnL: it's not every attribute, only those named according to names from keys
<Mic92> steveeJ: yes, unless you changed it in configuration.nix
<ndowens08> ok i set-rpath "${stdenv.lib.makeLibraryPath [ openssl ]}" same error
<Mic92> nix.package = pkgs.nixUnstable
<LnL> ndowens08: can you paste the expression somewhere
<ndowens08> yup
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<steveeJ> Mic92: oh, not actually the channel unstable but a package called nixUnstable
<LnL> ndowens08: hmm, wrong paste?
<Mic92> steveeJ: I know
<Mic92> ndowens08: what was the pull request number?
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<Mic92> found it
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<LnL> dtzWill: created another jobset for you :)
<steveeJ> Mic92: thanks for the hint. the C++ version is much more digestable for me :-D
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<Mic92> ndowens08: got it working
<ndowens08> LnL: wow that is weird i did a gist and file name and i see what you were refeering to
<ndowens08> Mic92: ah, how? that way maybe i can learn from it
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<ndowens08> hmm left out some things it seems
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] xwvvvvwx opened pull request #23410: Update vscode (master...update_vscode) https://git.io/vynW1
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<Mic92> ndowens08: however I don't know how to test these PM Quote Tools
<Mic92> *TPM
<ndowens08> Mic92: ah i am not sure either, I am just going through repo updating, and that one was giving the libcrypto error during start
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<Mic92> ndowens08: you should contact the other author, if he can confirm whether it is still working
<Mic92> *maintainer
<dtzWill> LnL: :D
<sheenobu> trying to get an i686-elf-none gcc. I got binutils working with binutils.override { cross = { config = "i686-none-elf"; }; }
<ndowens08> ah nice, new version of xurls is out, got notified through release-monitoring.org or w/e from fedora
<ndowens08> Mic92: how should I do, give him/her the new expression and see if it works I assume
<Mic92> ndowens08: you can refer by github username with @ak for instance. maintainer name == github username in most instances
<ndowens08> ah so push it and then mention them?
<Mic92> then the maintainer should get a notification
<Mic92> yes
<ndowens08> k :)
<Mic92> otherwise there is an email address in lib/maintainers.nix
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<nh2> ndowens08 Mic92: wait, can you explain to me why the patchelf for openssl is necessary in https://gist.github.com/Mic92/1d8342cae0b059147ff736c9b8c13b5b ?
<LnL> ndowens08: that one of the reasons why we ask people to use their github handle for maintainers entries
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<ndowens08> LnL: ah well "ak" didnt match anything
<ndowens08> so just sent an email
<Mic92> ndowens08: or git blame
<Mic92> nh2: usually the build system sets wrong linker flags
<Mic92> nh2: was not properly replaced by libcrypto
<Mic92> reference
<nh2> Mic92: so in my case, I'm building a Haskell executable; all .so files point to something in /nix/store correctly, just libssl.so and libcrypto.so don't, and I don't understand why