<tnias> clever: thanks i might try it later when i have access to such hardware :)
<bennofs> joepie91: ok this one works for me: https://gist.github.com/132af20b882ba86c7bcc4b519a6ae317
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<bennofs> joepie91: it should work fine as long as you don't run programs from inside atom that require libxkbfile or libXscrnSaver
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy7hQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 63f1a14 Will Dietz: neo4j service: increase file limit, per warning emitted at startup (#23961)
<joepie91> bennofs: what's libxkbfile for?
<bennofs> joepie91: no idea
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<joepie91> bennofs: building now...
<joepie91> uh
<joepie91> it seems to want to build systemd?
<bennofs> joepie91: you can build it from the same checkout you previously installed atom
<bennofs> joepie91: should not build anything new in that case
<joepie91> bennofs: how do you mean?
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<bennofs> joepie91: well you got the non-working atom version from somewhere right? reset master to that position and apply the patch
<joepie91> with "build it from the same checkout you previously installed atom"
<joepie91> bennofs: right, that'd be master
<joepie91> which I'm applying the patch to now
<joepie91> and building from
<bennofs> joepie91: the patch should lead to any rebuilds. perhaps master changed in the time between?
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<joepie91> yeah, seems this is gonna take a while :)
<joepie91> bennofs: while it's compiling... what approach would you recommend for applying this change permanently?
<joepie91> assuming it won't be merged into nixpkgs
<bennofs> joepie91: still looking. it looks like we can just patchelf it proper, just need to find the correct file to patchelf
<joepie91> alright
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<pxc> has anyone else run across the Elvish shell? I just came across it in an issue for the weirdo-shell I'm currently using (fish) and it looks like it might be really awesome some day: https://elvish.io/
<pxc> it has lambdas, higher-order functions, lists and maps with nice literals
<pxc> and its pipelines are 'structured', so arguments kind of have types
<joachifm> there's also es, if you're into that kind of thing
<pxc> I knew you lot would have some good recommendations! I'm happy to use non-POSIX shells if they're good
<pxc> thanks, joachifm
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<joachifm> both are in nixpkgs ofc :)
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<bennofs> there's also oilshell. not that I have looked at it much or even used it
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<ndowens08> ok i tried to do ls /nix/store/*/sat.core.i18n and well cant find something that provides sat.core.i18n
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<ndowens08> All i know is to submit the new update, as the previous version, the same binary didnt work either
<LnL> ndowens08: that only works if it already exists in your local sstore
<bennofs> ndowens08: there is no such thing in all of current nixpkgs if you consider all paths reachable through some attribute exposed to nix-env
<ndowens08> true; i was being hopeful that i would find something
<bennofs> ndowens08: (the closure of all things that nix-env -qap would list does not contain a file that has the name sat.core in it)
<bennofs> at least for relatively current nixpkgs-unstable that i indexed
<ndowens08> nix-env -qap sat.core
<ndowens08> woops
<bennofs> ndowens08: but I haven't indexed stuff that is not visible to nix-env (or not required by anything that is visible to nix-env), not stuff that is not build on hydra
<bennofs> s/, not/, nor
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<ndowens08> be nice when hydra builds a package, it attaches a list of files that package contains so it could be searched apon to find which pkg has it
<bennofs> ndowens08: hydra does that already. https://github.com/bennofs/nix-index
<joepie91> bennofs: still compiling...
<bennofs> currently in "cleaning up stage" then I'll add a package for nixpkgs for that
<joepie91> should've gone for that 8-core after all <.<
<bennofs> joepie91: oh, perhaps just check out latest nixpkgs unstable and apply the patch on top of that?
<bennofs> joepie91: that way you're guarranted to have binary cache
<joepie91> yeah, I suppose :P
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<joepie91> bennofs: which branch name should I use for that?
<bennofs> joepie91: git remote add channels https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs-channels
<bennofs> joepie91: git fetch channels; git checkout nixpkgs-unstable
<joepie91> let's see...
<joepie91> that looks more reasonable
<joepie91> only building atom now
<joepie91> :P
<bennofs> ndowens08: that's how I could say that none of the packages that are build by hydra (and reachable through nix-env -qap) contain such a file
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<bennofs> joepie91: if that works, could you also test https://gist.github.com/848e21db17c8ce407ad6967f00dff7d1 please? :D
<bennofs> that's the fix I would push to nixpkgs
<joepie91> bennofs: the previous patch works, although it seems to have broken a plugin but that's probably unrelated
<joepie91> yeah, def unrelated
<joepie91> it's also an older Atom version though
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #23999: salut-a-toi: 0.2.0 -> 0.6.1 (master...salut-a-toi) https://git.io/vy5vY
<joepie91> 1.14.4
<joepie91> bennofs: latest patch works too :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #24000: firefox, firefox-bin: 52.0 -> 52.0.1, firefox-esr: 52.0esr -> 52.0.1esr [Critical security fix] (master...firefox-bin-52.0.1) https://git.io/vy5vR
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<joepie91> bennofs: btw, would you recommend that I switch my 'master' packages to 'unstable' instead?
<joepie91> since the only purpose is to just get the newest version in nixpkgs
<joepie91> of some things that are subject to a lot of change
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<joepie91> (desktop system, so stability is not really relevant)
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<bennofs> joepie91: nixpkgs-unstable is generally recent enough, and you do get the benefit of the binary cache. Otherwise, you can also try checking out master from a little time ago (like 5 hours or so) so that the binary cache has hopefully already caught up to that version
<bennofs> joepie91: I often test packages on nixpkgs-unstable/nixos-unstable and then just cherry-pick the commit to master
<joepie91> bennofs: how is the unstable branch produced exactly? is it just "everything in master once it's in the binary cache"?
<bennofs> joepie91: it's a version of master that has everything build + a few critical tests pass
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<joepie91> bennofs: was looking at that, but the 12 days threw me off :)
<joepie91> oh
<joepie91> nixpkgs-unstable
<joepie91> not nixos-unstable
<bennofs> joepie91: yeah nixpkgs-unstable is 9days old right now it seems
<joepie91> right
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<joepie91> bennofs: also, what are the -small channels for exactly? like, what makes them small?
<bennofs> joepie91: recent enough for me most of the time though
<bennofs> joepie91: idk. perhaps less required builds finished? less tests? I'm not sure
<joepie91> and yeah, 9 days is workable enough for pretty much everything except maybe youtube-dl
<joepie91> right :P
<joepie91> bennofs: alright, thanks for the help :) I guess I can expect the patch to land in unstable in the near-ish future?
<ToxicFrog> AIUI the -small versions have the same derivations but a much smaller set of stuff in the binary cache
<ToxicFrog> So they get updated faster but you may need to build more stuff from source
<joepie91> what gets left out?
<ToxicFrog> I think mostly GUI/DE stuff, but don't quote me on that
<joepie91> right
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<ToxicFrog> I really hope either KWin or gnome3 is fixed in unstable @.@
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bennofs pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5vd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a4d6e2c Benno Fünfstück: atom: avoid using LD_PRELOAD. Fixes glibc compat issues...
<bennofs> joepie91: ^^^ with next nixpkgs unstable update, atom should work again without patches
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens closed pull request #23994: mpop: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.6 (master...master) https://git.io/vy7VB
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<bennofs> ndowens08: wait, how did I end up merging that mpop PR?
<ndowens08> bennofs: i didnt lol, if you look at it it ref one that you did
<ndowens08> i have no idea how that happened :\
<bennofs> yeah that is totally not mine
<bennofs> ndowens08: does that have anything to do with the pr? o.o
<ndowens08> yeah i have no idea what happened
<ndowens08> lol nope
<bennofs> no that's a different one
<bennofs> wtf
<ndowens08> yeah :\
<bennofs> ndowens08: and that PR has no commits? :O
<ndowens08> lol dont worry didnt actually merge mine
<joepie91> bennofs: thanks a lot :D
<ndowens08> it doesnt seem
<joepie91> bennofs: you have saved my weekend :P
<bennofs> ndowens08: "i merged 0 commits into NixOS:master" well that sounds productive xd
<ndowens08> lol yup
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<ToxicFrog> Hmm. Ok, it's not obviously broken. Win-key still breaks if I switch ttys. On the plus side, digikam works again, which is nice.
<bennofs> ndowens08: oh it got confused probably because NixOS:master is now a fast forward of ndowens08:master
<bennofs> and it is so due to my commit
<bennofs> i guess technically, my commit merged 0 of your commits into NixOS:master, by just adding a commit on NixOS:master
<ndowens08> i looked at the one you merged, doesnt seem to have any of what was my pkg in it
<bennofs> ndowens08: equavilent to a fast-forward merge of 0 commits
<bennofs> ndowens08: a fast-forward merge of 0 commits is just a single commit with a single parent
<ToxicFrog> ssh is still super flakey and full of timeouts (but only on my laptop)
<bennofs> ndowens08: any commit would have triggered that msg
<ToxicFrog> Time will tell if kwin is less crashy.
<ndowens08> heh, well i got to redo mine anyway lol
<ndowens08> bennofs: may have happened b/c i was trying to fix mpop from being added to every commit somehow even though it was previously pushed as a PR
<ndowens08> i could be in a diff branch and it would keep adding mpop
<ndowens08> i know one thing, i am learning git more than i use to know lol
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24001: mpop: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.6 (master...mpop) https://git.io/vy5fB
<bennofs> ndowens08: well, I think I know what happened. Normally, when you do a fast-forward merge, the history after the merge looks like this: A P1 P2 P3 B where P1 P2 P3 are the pr commits, A is master before the merge and B is the merge commit
<ndowens08> i've learned how to fix many of my mistakes, that one i was having was new
<ndowens08> and well i got rid of the issue lol
<bennofs> ndowens08: now, if you have a PR without commits (your master was identical to NixOS master), then that would just like: A B, so you cannot distinguish it from any normal commit B! so github was thinking that with B, i merged your "empty" PR
<joepie91> bennofs: that's an excellent commit message, btw
<ndowens08> bennofs: well previously it did have comits lol
<justanotheruser> How do I define the package that I want to call the new derivation? https://hastebin.com/raw/topifariji The option `mystlink' defined in `/etc/nixos/overrides.nix' does not exist.
<bennofs> ndowens08: the funny thing is, if this sort of "auto merge" occurs with any commit for an empty PR, could I use that to get fake contributor stats? Just submit an empty PR, wait for someone to commit something and you've got your PR's merged / day metric inflated :D
<ndowens08> lol well i do need more commits, as i am what, maybe 3rd place this month? lol
<ndowens08> yup i am in 3rd with 112
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<ndowens08> ok git is giving me to remove .git/gc.log but that file doesnt exist and git prune doesnt work
<ndowens08> that is when trying to do nox-review
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<Dezgeg> do that in ~/.nox/nixpkgs
<ndowens08> ah thanks Dezgeg
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<dhess2> hi Dezgeg. Any idea when you'll have an aarch64 install .img? I'd like to try it on my new Jetson TX1.
<dhess2> ooooooh
<dhess2> Dezgeg: does it include any Jetson TX1 dtbs, by any chance?
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<Dezgeg> it should (given that the mainline support in some form has been in since kernel 4.5)
<dhess2> excellent, thanks!
<Dezgeg> I'm interested to hear how it works out
<dhess2> Dezgeg: is nix-build on aarch64 able to produce armv7l binaries?
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<dhess2> Dezgeg: I'll definitely let you know. I should be able to give it a go this weekend.
<Dezgeg> nix source needs to be tweaked for the armv7 thing to work at least
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<dhess2> Dezgeg: ok.
<pikajude> anyone know how to customize cursors when you're just running plain X?
<Acou_Bass> i install lxappearance and use that, it doesnt have many dep's
<Acou_Bass> i *think* theres a way to do it in your dotfiles but i cant remember how
<pikajude> i'm sure there is, but how exactly is a mystery
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<bennofs> pikajude: xsetroot -cursor looks promising ?
<pikajude> yes but the mystery then is to figure out what inputs it needs
* hodapp stares blankly while Go something something compiles...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5JD
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3f17587 taku0: firefox, firefox-bin: 52.0 -> 52.0.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a038f91 taku0: firefox-esr: 52.0esr -> 52.0.1esr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5d51f1d Joachim F: Merge pull request #24000 from taku0/firefox-bin-52.0.1...
<hodapp> I should really get the Google Cloud Print connector into nixpkgs if this works.
<hodapp> though I guess I should perhaps make a service out of it too, and learn how to do that
<Acou_Bass> pikajude: apparently you can do it in .Xresources
<pikajude> i don't think i believe that
<Acou_Bass> mines got the line Xcursor.theme AdwaitaGreen
<pikajude> i've tried to customize cursor in xresources maybe 30 times
<Acou_Bass> youre probably right TBH :P mines just got the line, though that could suggest i tried it and it didnt work hehe
<Acou_Bass> i also have something in my gtkrc-3.0 gtk-cursor-theme-name=AdwaitaGreen, but i dont really see why lxappearance would write that file, with it being a gtk2 app at the moment
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<hodapp> why is this still compiling >_< I thought Go was supposed to build really quickly
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<joepie91> software + "supposed" = heh
<joepie91> (I'm totally not bitter :P)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 3 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vy5UB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 4b14061 taku0: firefox, firefox-bin: 51.0.1 -> 52.0, firefox-esr: 45.7esr -> 52.0esr...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 a30906f taku0: firefox, firefox-bin: 52.0 -> 52.0.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 1f984c0 taku0: firefox-esr: 52.0esr -> 52.0.1esr...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Ug
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3fac05b Joachim Fasting: libsodium: 1.0.11 -> 1.0.12
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master aa5777d Joachim F: Merge pull request #23952 from joachifm/libsodium-bump...
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<spacekitteh> how can i build a nix expression in my current directory?
<spacekitteh> e.g. foo.nix
<bennofs> spacekitteh: nix-build foo.nix ?
<spacekitteh> bennofs: duh, of course
* spacekitteh facepalms
<spacekitteh> thanks
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<hodapp> what is all this GOPATH nonsense that infects all of my attempts to merely build Go programs?
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<lezed1> I have a quick question about install a Python package not in the main repo. Is there a way to specify a package declaration (similar to the ones in the main repo that use buildPythonPackage) to build a new package that I can install?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] obadz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5TD
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 17bfb6a obadz: citrix-receiver: add link to webpage with all versions and adjust to change in nix-prefetch-url...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] obadz pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vy5Ty
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 f9458ba obadz: citrix-receiver: add link to webpage with all versions and adjust to change in nix-prefetch-url...
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<ndowens08> lezed1: do you have a current nix file you are creating?
<lezed1> I have a current nix install with the configs needed for the system and shell, are those what you mean?
<lezed1> or something specific to building a python package?
<ndowens08> the nix file you are creating to build that python package you want
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<ndowens08> iirc, for example if it was a python3 package, it would be buildPython3Package.mkDerivation rec {
<ndowens08> I hardly build pythong packages, so I could be wrong
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<ndowens08> nah it's just python3Packages.buildPythonPackage rec {
<ndowens08> if it is python3
<lezed1> yep, for python3
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<lezed1> can I put that in my normal .nix configs, or does it have to be separate if it's providing a package
<ndowens08> so it is python3Packages.buildPythonPackage
<ndowens08> seperate
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<ndowens08> clone github.com/nixos/nixpkgs for packaging
<nickofnames> Hello
<joachifm> lezed1: no, you can put it wherever
<ndowens08> well i just use clone of repo :)
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<hodapp> what is that online tool that lets me look up attributes?
<hodapp> I am trying to build a Go package and I have no idea how to make buildGoPackage get a dependency from bzr rather than git
<hodapp> type = "bzr" isn't doing it
<ndowens08> i use nox or command-not-found bzr
<hodapp> ugh, it just doesn't support bzr
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<lezed1> I tried just putting in my normal config (this is what I added: http://pastebin.com/0rwNdfU8). I get an error that "unexpected argument ‘config’, at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs/lib/modules.nix:157:8" when I try building.
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<ndowens08> dont use mkDerivation with pythonpackages
<lezed1> I tried with and without it
<lezed1> same error
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<ndowens08> idk, i dont put mine in config
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<lezed1> When you clone the repo, do you still get all the prebuild packages, and just build the extra ones locally?
<lezed1> Also, joachifm is there something else I should do if I keep it in configs
<ndowens08> lezed1: either way, you wont get prebuilt binaries
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] deepfire opened pull request #24002: vogl: init at 2016-05-13 (master...vogl) https://git.io/vy5kH
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<joachifm> lezed1: it's unclear to me what you're actually doing ...
<lezed1> There are a few python packages that I need for my system that aren't in the main pkg repo
<lezed1> and I want to write a set of .nix files to provide those python packages from pypi
<lezed1> I chose a simple one as a test that didn't have too many dependencies
<lezed1> that's the pastebin I posted earlier
<joachifm> lezed1: I get that part :) just not what exactly you're doing to accomplish it
<joachifm> what do you do when you "add it to your config2
<lezed1> that file was imported in my main configuration.nix
<joachifm> as in imports = [ ./foo.nix ] ?
<lezed1> yes
<spacekitteh> so uh
<joachifm> lezed1: ah, imports is for modules
<spacekitteh> /nix/store/1w5aii50walpx570axnggk9w8rb1f7dc-builder.sh: line 2: mkdir: command not found
<joachifm> lezed1: hence the somewhat obscure error you got
<spacekitteh> what expression is mkdir in? >.>
<joachifm> lezed1: imports expects expression of the form { config, ... }: { options = { ... }; config = { ... }; }
<lezed1> ok, and it didn't have config so that explains the error
<joachifm> lezed1: so is your primary concern installing this package or what?
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<joachifm> lezed1: if it's just to get it into your user profile, you could extend the package set via packageOverrides
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<lezed1> I'm just trying to install this so I can import it
<lezed1> just on my system
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<joachifm> lezed1: but you don't need to involve configuration.nix at all just to build/use the expr
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<lezed1> Also, right now I'm using nix-shell for my other python dependencies, so should it be part of that default.nix instead?
<joachifm> lezed1: have you looked at doc/languages-framework/python?
<lezed1> oh, I have not seen that before
<lezed1> that looks like it explains a lot of what I'm trying to do
<joachifm> don't know much about python specifics; I think that doc is a good place to start
<lezed1> yeah, it definitely is
<lezed1> thank you for pointing me to that
<spacekitteh> joachifm: any idea re: mkdir?
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<joachifm> spacekitteh: bad path, bad interpreter, no idea
<spacekitteh> ;\
<spacekitteh> k
<joachifm> what is the context?
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<spacekitteh> in a builder.sh
<spacekitteh> in a fhs env
<joachifm> hm, well, the error suggests command lookup failure or a bad dynamic linker; not sure what else it could be offhand ...
<joachifm> though I'm sure there are lots of other possibilities :)
<ozer> lezed1: hi!!
* spacekitteh cries
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ee20e89 Peter Hoeg: virtmanager-qt: 0.39.60 -> 0.42.67
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<ozer> what's the best way to configure nix to build packages with more than one thread?
<ozer> aka make -j4 or whatever
<joachifm> ozer: see build-cores in nix.conf
<joachifm> that'd be nix.buildCores in configuration.nix, I guess
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<ozer> Thanks! It is nix.buildCores
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<barrucadu> How does nix.buildCores relate to nix.maxJobs?
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<joachifm> cores-per-build vs concurrent-builds
<barrucadu> Right
<joachifm> I believe parallel builds is opt-in right now, so you might get better mileage out of increasing maxJobs
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yurrriq opened pull request #24003: erlangR19: 19.2.3 -> 19.3 (master...update/pkgs/development/interpreters/erlang/R19) https://git.io/vy5qs
<lezed1> Is there a way to configure nix.buildCores based on the number of cores (or threads) of your physical CPU?
<joachifm> set it to 0, I think
<spacekitteh> i wanna work on a ninja -> nix expression converter :B
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<joachifm> spacekitteh: to what end or just for the fun of it?
<spacekitteh> part of my master plan to build AOSP with nix :)
<joachifm> aosp as in android?
<spacekitteh> yeah
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<clever> ozer: and a derivation needs enableParallelBuilding=true; in its expression to actualy use -j
<ozer> oh thank you!
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<clever> ozer: this line of code checks enableParallelBuilding, and if its true, it will use -j with the build-cores from nix.conf
<ozer> clever: so would systemPackages usually build with enableParallelBuilding = true or should that also be in configuration.nix?
<clever> ozer: enableParallelBuilding is per package
<clever> and nix.buildCores in configuration.nix controls how nix.conf is generated
<ozer> I see
<ozer> thanks for info!
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<clever> and due to how nix.conf and nixos work, changes to nix.buildCores only take effect after the "nixos-rebuild switch" has finished
<clever> but you can also pass "--option build-cores 8" to almost any nix command, to bypass nix.conf
<joachifm> triton does enableParallelBuilding=true by default, I think
<joachifm> just as an aside :)
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<echo-area> How do I bring `codesign` into a package's build environment on Mac OS?
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<yurrriq> LnL: I'm trying to update/finish your generalize-beam-erlang PR and I've run into a snag wrt changes to hex-packages.nix in master. Any chance you're around for some realtime advice?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yurrriq opened pull request #24004: hexRegistrySnapshot: 2016-11-23 -> 2017-03-18 (master...update/pkgs/development/beam-modules/hex-registry-snapshot) https://git.io/vy5OI
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #23968: libibmad: 1.3.12 -> 1.3.13 (master...libibmad) https://git.io/vyHXs
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<MichaelRaskin> joachifm: frankly, that makes more sense than NixPkgs double-opt-in approach
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5OX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8ef05d3 ndowens: mpop: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ce9576d Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #24001 from ndowens/mpop...
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<chakerbenhamed> Hey. I added a folder to the nixpath -I folder=pathTofolder. But I want to import one of it subfolders Do I access it with <folder/subfolder> because this give me an "Not found in Nixpath" error
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to python-wip: https://git.io/vy5Oy
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip 0afcac4 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.urllib3: disable tests
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #23959: znc: 1.6.4 -> 1.6.5 (master...znc-1.6.5) https://git.io/vyHqV
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] viric pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy538
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f77ae4e Lluís Batlle i Rossell: amule: 2.3.1 -> 2.3.2
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] viric pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vy53B
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 b288f05 Lluís Batlle i Rossell: amule: 2.3.1 -> 2.3.2...
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<piecesofquiet> any one have any idea on how to set up EXWM? I'm fairly sure that I've enabled everything I need to in my configuration.nix, but when it starts up emacs doesn't full screen
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<jophish> :( I have package A which wants package B to compile, but package B wants package A's store path at runtime
<MichaelRaskin> A commonw wrapper, like with browser plugins?
<jophish> yeah, I'll have to make a package C upon which they both depend
<jophish> not the end of the world, a little annoying though
<MichaelRaskin> The other way round
<MichaelRaskin> C depends on both
<jophish> oh right
<jophish> that could work
<jophish> actually, for other reasons I might have to have something on which they both depend
<jophish> package B is a servant server and package A is a ghcjs executable
<jophish> I want to share the API type with both
<MichaelRaskin> Well, as a minimum package C, I want to say lib C, I want to say glibc…
<jophish> however for A to rely on B it'll have to be compiled with ghcjs, and I don't think wai and servant-server will like taht
<jophish> that*
<jophish> hahaha
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<jophish> MichaelRaskin: wow! ghcjs was able to compile the server
<jophish> look as though I will be able to use your package C after all
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<jophish> thanks!
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<jophish> It's a shame the server doesn't work running under node, but I wasn't expecting that
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pSub pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5sy
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ff7506d Nick Hu: tvheadend: fix typo in package description
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eef0521 Pascal Wittmann: Merge pull request #23991 from NickHu/tvheadend...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5GT
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dbee6b6 Rommel M. Martinez: emem: 0.2.41 -> 0.2.42
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 553964c Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #23976 from ebzzry/emem-0.2.42...
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<LnL> yurrriq: ping
<yurrriq> LnL: hey
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<yurrriq> I dumped my thoughts/struggles here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/17240#issuecomment-287522499
<LnL> yeah, I'll take a look
<yurrriq> +1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vy5ZO
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 742b120 Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into staging...
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<LnL> yurrriq: that last part creates the fixpoint
<yurrriq> hmm, maybe it's too late here or something, but I'm not sure how to amend my fork. maybe you can
<yurrriq> I've almost undoubtedly broken other parts, but this hex-packages fixpoint bit is a show stopper
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] qknight pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5ZK
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6022a79 Joachim Schiele: nixos/release.nix: added tests.wordpress
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<yurrriq> LnL: I ticked the "Allow edits from maintainers" box here: https://github.com/LnL7/nixpkgs/pull/1 and won't be at it again for at 12 hours or so
<yurrriq> ... at the very least :)
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<qknight> if i want to apply a security patch to 16.09, this is the branch: origin/release-16.09
<qknight> right?
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<LnL> yes, and don't forget about 17.03
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 5 new commits to python-wip: https://git.io/vy5nT
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip e8f8586 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.dill: 0.2.5 -> 0.2.6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip 779395d Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.bottleneck: fix build...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip 6e7b9ce Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.Nuitka: 0.5.21.3 -> 0.5.25
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] qknight pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vy5nI
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 674d8cf Bas van Dijk: wordpress: security upgrade: 4.7.2 -> 4.7.3 & other improvements...
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<ocharles> Is there a recommended way to mount the store as rw?
<ocharles> I'm running out of ideas with --repair failing, and want to try manually copying over the result of unpacking a NAR
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<qknight> ocharles: you have to undo the bind mount IIRC
<qknight> ocharles: and then you can copy stuff manually. using a 'resuce system' might be the easiest way
<ocharles> Weird. I used mount -remount, nix-store --restore and copying the contents over to the failing path. And now nix-store --verify-path is happy
<ocharles> I wonder why --repair-path is being so useless
<LnL> nix-store --delete --ignore-liveness followed by nix-store -r might also work
<ocharles> nope, it won't let me ignore-liveness
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<MichaelRaskin> nix-store --verify is useful for making Nix admit that the path is gone
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<MichaelRaskin> Hm
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe it would be enough to manually remove it after remount, then verify-path, then realise
<clever> LnL: ive massively broken my system before with --ignore-liveness
<clever> LnL: in one case, it deleted the target of /run/current-system/
<ocharles> MichaelRaskin: oh, I'll try that
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<MichaelRaskin> repair-path may also be the needed command
<LnL> clever: heh
<MichaelRaskin> Oops missed
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe you needed more --check-contents
<ocharles> MichaelRaskin: nope, this is very weird. I added a comment to the issue
<clever> LnL: its usualy better to nix-store --query --roots, and manualy delete each root, and be aware of what your deleting
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<LnL> in the case of repair I would assume you don't want to remove all the roots first :)
<clever> yeah
<clever> another option, i believe nix-store --restore behaves the same as tar -xf
<MichaelRaskin> ocharles: at that point I would read the main Nix DB and check that the suggested hash of the path is the same as in cache narinfo
<MichaelRaskin> Because corruption could be at different moments, after all
<clever> so you could just the nix db, rm -rf a given storepath, then nix-store --restore a nar to un-delete it
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<clever> that will completely ignore liveless/roots, and bypass all safeties, and just forcibly replace it with the nar contents
<DMZ__> hello guys, i can't install matplotlib with pip in virtualenv. Also, i tried nix-shell and its okey for installation but matplotlib doesnt show windows when i run my code. The code has no problem if you ask
<ocharles> clever: i've done that, look in the github issue
<ocharles> it's in the comment
<clever> ocharles: ah, looks like your using --repair-path to un-delete it
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23999: salut-a-toi: 0.2.0 -> 0.6.1 (master...salut-a-toi) https://git.io/vy5vY
<ocharles> oh right, --restore. I can try that too
<LnL> wait, if you remove the files you still get the same sha
<ocharles> LnL: only with --repair-path
<ocharles> If I unpack the nar and copy it in by hand, it verifies correctly
<clever> 2017-02-22 22:23:23< clever> $ nix-store --dump a | nix-store --restore b
<clever> ocharles: a random example from a month ago, this one copies a->b, recursively
<ocharles> ok, yea --restore directly into the store is fine
<ocharles> that at least makes this process a bit easier
<clever> 2017-03-13 15:49:05< clever> [clever@amd-nixos:/tmp/fooo]$ curl cache.nixos.org/nar/0b1c57kbqjl78yh5wvna3lgfzldjk12s5a5kkyq49qd07jgy4p0p.nar.xz | unxz | nix-store --restore bdjyhh70npndlq3rzmggh4f2dzdsj4xy-hello-2.10
<clever> ocharles: another example, to directly download from the binary cache
<ocharles> heh, I was about to write that line myself :)
<clever> and in this case, it unpacked to /tmp/fooo
<clever> so you can do it without root, if you only want to inspect
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<DMZ__> hello guys, i can't install matplotlib with pip in virtualenv. Also, i tried nix-shell and its okey for installation but matplotlib doesnt show windows when i run my code. The code has no problem if you ask. Anyone can help pls ?
<FRidh> DMZ__: why are you installing matplotlib with pip?
<DMZ__> because nix-shell didnt work, so i tried that
<DMZ__> nix-shell installed it properly without a problem.
<FRidh> nix-shell -p 'pyhon.withPackages(ps [ps.matplotlib])'
<DMZ__> its okey but something is wrong i guess
<FRidh> what does not work?
<DMZ__> i did it :D
<DMZ__> look
<clever> DMZ__: there is no need to put the stdenv in the builtInputs, its always available
<DMZ__> okey
<FRidh> DMZ__: have you read the Python section in the manual?
<ocharles> Ok pro tip
<DMZ__> no
<ocharles> Don't mess around in the nix store
<ocharles> Laptop is now unbootable xD
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<joachifm> MichaelRaskin: agreed
<ocharles> and I finally have a working font config again, phew. I had missed fixed type fonts
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<FRidh> Has anyone read about the Spack package manager? Yet another package manager for HPC.
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<DMZ__> FRidh: could you please try my code if it works for you ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ambrop72 opened pull request #24005: nixos: Define XCURSOR_PATH environment variable. (master...xcursor-path) https://git.io/vy5cE
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<DMZ__> i am getting this error. Collisions. https://paste.kde.org/pacqjkg4f
<qknight> my kde applications (i'm on master) don't show any icons, any knows how to fix that?
<ambro718> qknight: KDE apps running in which desktop?
<qknight> ambro718: i3
<ambro718> I have some trouble myself in Xfce but it's better than some time ago
<qknight> konsole, kate
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<qknight> okular
<qknight> that's what i use most
<ambro718> qknight: possible workaround is to export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=kde before running
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<ambro718> does it help?
<FRidh> DMZ__: correct. What happens is that old-fashioned namespace packages provide in each of their packages an __init__.py. With python.withPackages we make an environment through symbolic links, and thus a colission happens. For now the solution is to use python.buildEnv.override { extraLibs = ...; ignoreCollisions = true; };
<FRidh> that should be added to the manual.
<FRidh> This is the reason why PEP 420 exists
<ambro718> qknight: actually maybe XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=xfce would help
<ambro718> I think it's basically a qt5 implementation issue, mostly ignoring users of desktops other than gnome and kde
<qknight> ambro718: does not help for okular. but i'm not sure how to test this properly
<qknight> maybe there is some caching going on
<ambro718> qknight: =xfce doesn't help?
<jophish> Often when using nix-compiled gtk apps on ubuntu I get error messages like this https://gist.github.com/ac529ef3e1fe0d9812802cb537460d34
<qknight> not for okular
<jophish> Is there any way to avoid these?
<ambro718> qknight: and for konsole?
<ambro718> I'm seeing konsole respond differently to okular...
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<qknight> ambro718: can't restart konsole ATM. but the 'other' konsole does still have problemss with now showing icons
<DMZ__> FRidh: yeah ignoreCollisions = true; solved the problem. However still i have no windows showed up :D
<DMZ__> how can i check matplotlib dependencies on terminal ?
<DMZ__> maybe i need to add graphical libraries
<ambro718> qknight: maybe play with icon themese, install some (oxygen, breeze, hicolor, I don't know exactly), try to change the icon theme.
<jophish> icetan: Did you ever sort that out? I think you had a similar issue in august
<qknight> ambro718: good idea, thanks!
<qknight> ambro718: how to chagne the theme for kde5?
<ambro718> pkgs.kde5.oxygen-icons5 is the package for the icons. I don't know how to change the theme, in Xfce there is a program for this
<qknight> hehe
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<FRidh> DMZ__: so you want to override the function call to enable a backend. Check the manual for how to override a Python package.
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<qknight> ambro718: oh, i have to do that for i3. this is new!
<qknight> ambro718: that is complicated ;P
<ambro718> I need to figure out how the xfce setting works...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 266fb88 Michael Raskin: xxdiff-tip: init at 4.0.1.20170111...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6e74e16 Michael Raskin: xannotate: init at 20150301
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5833da6 Michael Raskin: wayv: init at 0.3
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<jbo_> hi there! I'm new to nixos & was wondering if someone could explain why some packages, like mate-terminal, are here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/desktops/mate but not here: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html ?
<FRidh> jbo_: the latter link lists only packages available in the current stable release
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<MichaelRaskin> These are packages built by Hydra, to be more precise
<DMZ__> FRidh: i am getting error: attribute ‘overridePackages’ missing. http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#python 8.10.3.3. How to override a Python package?
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<DMZ__> For the last example (django)
<jbo_> FRidh: thanks! -- I'll read some more about channels
<FRidh> DMZ__: you're using unstable I suppoes?
<DMZ__> yes sir.
<jbo_> Second question: how should I decide which packages belong in conf*.nix env*.systemPackages vs. installing with nix-env -iA ?
<FRidh> DMZ__: overridePackages was replaced with packageOverrides. Note that the online version of the manual refers to Stable.
<DMZ__> where can i find unstable's manual ?
<FRidh> DMZ__: if you have the repo cloned, go to the root, and then `nix-build doc`
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<ambro718> qknight: any success with the icons?
<FRidh> jbo_: Tough question. I keep most of the things I want in configuration.nix, but my python environment I use for development I nix-env -i
<DMZ__> FRidh: error: attribute ‘packageOverrides’ missing :D
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5Wq
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4e2f802 Robin Gloster: gnome_mplayer: fix src and build
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 7 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vy5WO
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 2105794 Franz Pletz: nixos/treewide: remove boolean examples for options...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 24c5f09 Will Dietz: neo4j service: increase file limit, per warning emitted at startup (#23961)...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 69427c7 Benno Fünfstück: atom: avoid using LD_PRELOAD. Fixes glibc compat issues...
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<DMZ__> FRidh: can't i use packageOverrides in shell.nix ?
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<jbo_> FRidh: thanks
<FRidh> DMZ__: what exactly did you try?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh opened pull request #24007: kdeApplications.kolourpaint: init (master...kolourpaint) https://git.io/vy5Wd
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] phile314 opened pull request #24008: slimserver: Init at 7.9.0 (pkg + module) (master...slimserver) https://git.io/vy5le
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<FRidh> DMZ__: sigh, let's see what's going on there
<samae> How do you guys handle the WiFi regdom in nixos?
<FRidh> some months ago there were some changes on that part
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<DMZ__> FRidh: sorry :D i am trying to understand and learn
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<samae> I see that nixos.crda is available, but there does not seem to be any documentation with it
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<samae> nckx: you seem to be the maintainer for this package, can you tell me more on how to make it work ?
<FRidh> DMZ__: seems like the overriding mechanism has changed yet again without documenting it
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5l6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 620ef80 Daiderd Jordan: idutils: disable tests on darwin
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6e4d902 Daiderd Jordan: kiwix: add platforms
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d81be9 Daiderd Jordan: Merge pull request #23569 from LnL7/darwin-idutils...
<DMZ__> FRidh: sigh, cool!!!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] stebulus opened pull request #24009: spambayes: Add bsddb3 build input (master...spambayes-bsddb-dep) https://git.io/vy5lp
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<DMZ__> FRidh: thank you. i bothered you too much but can you explain whats going on in paste ?
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<FRidh> DMZ__: No problem. First, what we do is import Nixpkgs and pass a custom configuration where we override the main package set. In the main package set weoverride the Python interpreter and pass it a custom Python package set in which we set another Django
<FRidh> now, pkgs is the whole Nixpkgs set and uses 1.9 of Django througout it.
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<FRidh> DMZ__: here's another example where that is perhaps clearer. In this case, we build inkscape using a different version of numpy: https://paste.kde.org/ppacibxkv
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<DMZ__> so, we changed nixpkgs set with the changed python packages set. am i right ?
<DMZ__> what is self and super there ?
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<FRidh> Correct. The modified and unmodified python package set
<DMZ__> https://paste.kde.org/pkqd8k9r2 , is this correct for the line on github ?
<eacameron> Is it possible to rotate the SSH keys that nixops generates? https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/issues/625
<samae> nckx: a note, I made it work, but it needed adding: services.udev.packages = [ pkgs.crda ]; in my configuration
<FRidh> DMZ__: looks good
<samae> Otherwise the udev rule was missing
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<DMZ__> FRidh: thanks again. It's better you guys giving too much effort to handle things but also should care documentation or how things are done and why. Line by line should be good :D I want too much but i am struggling too much to do something and understand and getting nothing :D
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<DMZ__> i wrote wrong :D you guys are giving too much effort but documentation is poor imho. :D
<DMZ__> there are zillion lines of documentation but it teachs nothing almost
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 959064c Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.ppx_deriving_yojson: init at 3.0...
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<FRidh> DMZ__: I agree. Often documentation is written by those that are very familiar with parts and thus might not realize its tough if you're not at the same level. In the case of the Python section I hoped showing enough examples would help. Unfortunately, they're outdated again.
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<FRidh> The Nixpkgs manual also mixes a lot of things, like Nixpkgs dev info, user info, "tutorial", etc.
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<MarcWeber> DMZ__: The conversation I listened to just makes you appear like 'complaining' without asking a real question. Saying docs are bad doesn't help you. Saying "I want to get tihs done, how to do it" would help you. But maybe I've missed parts of the conversation.
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<DMZ__> MarcWeber: helping for 1 hour maybe more, sorry
<DMZ__> MarcWeber: FRidh is helping for 1 hour maybe more, sorry
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<DMZ__> FRidh: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/python-modules/matplotlib/default.nix#L44 enableGtk3 = true; shouldn't it install dependencies also ? for its own ? complainin about "ImportError: Gtk3 backend requires pygobject to be installed."
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<DMZ__> FRidh: thanks for all your help. really appreciated and learned as well
<FRidh> DMZ__: if all goes well it should have pygobject on its path
<FRidh> let's see
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<DMZ__> i changed it to enableGtk2 = true; it works fine but enableGtk3 not
<FRidh> how did you test? I never use the backends
<DMZ__> this is shell.nix https://paste.kde.org/pc2tdxzox
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<DMZ__> i can give you python code if you want
<FRidh> yes
<DMZ__> how you see the results without backends ?
<FRidh> DMZ__: I work with matplotlib in notebook or write to file
<DMZ__> cool, i will check it also
<FRidh> indeed, importerror
<DMZ__> yes sir.
<hodapp> finally made Google Cloud Print work \o/
<hodapp> though, I had separate Go packages for gcp-cups-connector and gcp-connector-util, but the former built the latter anyway for some reason (within the same path in the store); perhaps a dependency?
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<DMZ__> FRidh: maybe we found a bug at least :D
<hodapp> I guess I should make a service for this before making a PR, but trying to figure out the right way of doing configuration
<hodapp> gcp-connector-util generates configuration files, but for some parts of it, it has to hit the Google APIs
<hodapp> to geverate OAuth tokens or something like that
<hodapp> this requires that the user be logged in, go to a URL, supply a code, and so on, so I don't see how well this could fit into the way services are normally configured in NixOS
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<FRidh> DMZ__: definitely a bug. The overriding does work, since the build process notices the extra libraries, however, they are not being added to the eventual environment.
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<ebzzry> During the build phase, how does Nix resolve host names?
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<joachifm> ebzzry: not sure nix itself deals with that, apart from setting up a network namespace if sandboxing is enabled. why?
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<ebzzry> joachifm: I’m curious, because when I call `{leiningen}/bin/lein ...` in buildPhase, I get complaints that it can’t resolve hostnames.
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<ebzzry> s/{leiningen}/${leiningen}/
<joachifm> ebzzry: this is with sandboxing enabled?
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<joachifm> ebzzry: if so, that's expected (and desired, generally)
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<ebzzry> joachifm: hm
<ebzzry> joachifm: The lein command fetches deps from the internet. How can I make it work?
<joachifm> ebzzry: it's important that builders not be allowed to access the external network willy nilly
<ebzzry> joachifm: ok
<joachifm> ebzzry: you need to prefetch the deps somehow; that is, turn them into fixed-output derivations
<joachifm> (which can access the network)
<Jookia> thats how fetchurl works since it already knows what its getting
<Jookia> if you're trying to download something and you don't know what it will end up being, you need to get past that hurdle first
<ebzzry> Ok. What’s a good approach? I don’t know what it will download it advance.
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<ebzzry> lein is a dependency manager for clojure.
<joachifm> ebzzry: unless there's already tooling for leiningen, I expect there is no other way than to figure out what urls it's looking for and turn those into fixed-output derivations (fetchurl or simimlar)
<Jookia> ebzzry: i have to sleep soon but is there a way to pin all your dependencies and have them download the same each time?
<ebzzry> I’ll do my research.
<FRidh> gchristensen: around?
<Jookia> ebzzry: i'd probably start by seeing if i can get lein to reproducibly download the exact same packages in to a directory tree, then pass that to your builder :)
<ebzzry> Jookia: that can be one way of doing it :)
<Jookia> though a smarter person would probably try to take apart lein and do its job using nix
<ebzzry> Jookia: yup!
<joachifm> lein2nix :)
<ebzzry> ! :)
<joachifm> I expect leiningen has some sort of package description, listing deps and where to get them?
<gchristensen> FRidh: I am
<ebzzry> joachifm: yes it has.
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<joachifm> ebzzry: if so, all you really need is extract that info, prefetch and generate appropriate nix exprs
<FRidh> gchristensen: Great. What do you think of doing a crossmerge now? The queues aren't getting any smaller, and older evaluations won't result in channel updates either.
<joachifm> ebzzry: not sure how general you want to make this, though; for full generality might be quite a bit of work ...
<gchristensen> FRidh: that sounds fine to me, I'd be happy to cancel old jobs
<FRidh> although its hard to say what's causing it and whether there is a certain arch that holds up the rest
<joachifm> ebzzry: ofc. also convince lein to use *your* sources and not download stuff
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Ef
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d440981 Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.15-201703150049 -> 4.9.16-201703180820
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b5da6ca Joachim Fasting: linux_4_9: 4.9.15 -> 4.9.16
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vy5EJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging e67b979 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into HEAD
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<joachifm> gchristensen: is it a software problem or just too much work?
<gchristensen> joachifm: I don't know :/
<gchristensen> I'm just offering to cancel jobs to try and lighten the load :P
<joachifm> aha
<joachifm> I see there are still some idle machines, but looks like it's doing something, at least :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5EZ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 06527e8 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/staging' into HEAD
<FRidh> joachifm: things are building, but there mass-rebuilds on master as well
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #23426: lzip: 1.17 -> 1.18 (master...lzip) https://git.io/vynwM
<FRidh> gchristensen: ok, now they're the same. Could you stop all trunk/staging and retrigger staging?
<gchristensen> yeah
<jbo_> What's a good way of keeping my shell scripts cross-platform, but getting the bash/python shebangs to work in nixos? (converting them all to "/usr/bin/env bash" ?)
<gchristensen> FRidh: the ui is very slow right now :(
<gchristensen> FRidh: did I miss anything you wanted me to canctl?
<gchristensen> cancel*
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<simendsjo> I'm coming from Arch, and I notice a lot of applications is using quite old versions. Is this by design (being more stable rather than more bleeding edge) or a lack of manpower?
<Profpatsch> simendsjo: Which channel are you on?
<Profpatsch> There are stable versions (released twice a year) and unstable (following master)
<Profpatsch> sudo nix-channel --list
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<joepie91> jbo_: that's the code that patches the shebangs to point at the right interpreter
<joepie91> from that you can probably infer what it expects/supports :)
<FRidh> thanks gchristensen. Let's wait and see how many jobs nixpkgs/staging will be
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<gchristensen> FRidh: ok, I haven't re-triggered anything. can you link me to the jobsets to re-evaluate?
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<gchristensen> FRidh: done
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gilligan closed pull request #23215: openfortivpn: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0 (master...update-openfortivpn) https://git.io/vykzv
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<FRidh> gchristensen: i noticed the armv8 has trouble with cffi https://bitbucket.org/cffi/cffi/issues/312/tests-failed-with-armv8. Are you working on fixing arm issues, or others?
<gchristensen> FRidh: I haven't been, Dezgeg?
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<Dezgeg> yeah, I look at them every now and then
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<bennofs> Hmm I just noticed that we could trade nar.xz size on cache.nixos.org for the ability to fetch an arbitrary file from a NAR requiring a download of at most N extra bytes.
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<LnL> mass rebuild?
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<FRidh> LnL: cross-merged master and staging
<LnL> yeah I noticed
<bennofs> how does cross-merging work?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] corngood opened pull request #24012: WIP: firefox: enable pulseaudio by default in wrapper (master...firefox-pulse) https://git.io/vy52J
<LnL> any particular reason? If you build master -> staging first it doesn't happen
<FRidh> LnL: master was diverging, having a large/mass rebuild as well
<FRidh> gchristensen: any idea why we have aborted jobs again? http://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1342126
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<FRidh> or was that the last one you cancelled?
<gchristensen> yeah those are cancelled
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<FRidh> gchristensen: you did restart http://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1342126#tabs-inputs, right?
<LnL> FRidh: if you just merge master to staging it will build it will build there first
<gchristensen> yeah
<gchristensen> FRidh: I can restart all failed
<LnL> when that's finished you can merge the staging changes without a rebuild
<FRidh> LnL: I know, but Hydra would build master as well taking up a lot of time
<LnL> so there was another rebuild on master?
<FRidh> yes
<FRidh> I suppose the rebuilding of 17.03 due to the cherry-picking takes quite a lot of time
<LnL> ah nevermind, I thought you said the merge was the cause of the rebuild
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<echo-area> s
<echo-area> Oops
<echo-area> Sorry
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22722: kodestudio: init at 17.1 (master...kodestudio) https://git.io/vDrgy
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23062: ptask: init at 1.0.0 (master...ptask) https://git.io/vDxc7
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23081: RubyMine (master...rubymine) https://git.io/vDhLG
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5VZ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5abc164 Leon Isenberg: earlyoom: init at 0.11
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 309f10b Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23134 from ljli/earlyoom-init...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23161: freecell-solver: 3.26.0 -> 4.8.0 (master...freecell-solver) https://git.io/vyUF9
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] DIzFer opened pull request #24013: update powerline 2.4 -> 2.5.2 (master...update-powerline) https://git.io/vy5V4
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5V0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8547fa1 David Izquierdo: update powerline 2.4 -> 2.5.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master af3a535 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #24013 from DIzFer/update-powerline...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #18275: libmsgpack: fixed mingw32 cross-build (master...patch-1) https://git.io/viOnS
<tsmeets> Hello, is it possible to pass custom arguments to my nixos configuration.nix file?
<tsmeets> I was thinking of using: nix-build --argstr foo "bar"
<MichaelRaskin> Would using builtins.getEnv count?
<tsmeets> Good Idea! :)
<Baughn> I assume that, if I have two derivations with different inputs that just happen to produce the same output, they won't get deduplicated..
<Baughn> Is that correct?
<MichaelRaskin> That is currently correct
<MichaelRaskin> Unless they are fixed-output
<Baughn> Fair enough. They're not.
<copumpkin> they'll possibly get deduplicated on disk
<copumpkin> but that's a separate mechanism
<MichaelRaskin> Also, it is very unlikely that the situation happens: most packages do contain "$out" reference somewhere
<copumpkin> (there's an option to do a hardlink step after builds that hardlinks files that are identical)
<Baughn> They probably would, it's just that all the dependent derivations still get rebuilt.
<copumpkin> yup
<ndowens08> Anyone know how to fix this. It requires git to create docs and it gives
<ndowens08> fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
<copumpkin> there's some stuff about an intensional store in the dissertation
<ndowens08> **Error**: Irssi Autogen must be run in a git clone, cannot proceed.
<ndowens08> autoreconfHook gives missing files, so had to do away with that and autogen.sh gives needs git so added that as a dep and now gives that error
<MichaelRaskin> ndowens08: I would go the bigger hammer route
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<ndowens08> as in?
<tsmeets> MichaelRaskin: builtins.getEnv is exactly what I need. Thanks!
<MichaelRaskin> Create a script called git that ignores the input and outputs something close to a version description
<MichaelRaskin> Put that in PATH
<MichaelRaskin> (Optional: watch the world burn)
<ndowens08> hmm know anything that uses this, so I can look it on how it is done?
<ndowens08> Looking through the repo, and all i see is git used to get the source so far
<MichaelRaskin> xen
<MichaelRaskin> The fake git there even prints its output, which is nice
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<gchristensen> good news: I've made good progress on the next security roundup, and am intending on opening up an issue at the latest on Monday. there are _many_ things to look at, and the process is less smooth (it is brand new...) so I'm planning on doing smaller roundups more frequently until (1) it smooths out, (2) we catch up.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #21233: gcc-snapshot: init at 7-20161211 (master...gcc-snapshot) https://git.io/v17MI
<gchristensen> Mic92, MichaelRaskin, fpletz, LnL, globin ^
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5ws
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2478f7b Frederik Rietdijk: kdelibs: remove sanitize patch...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5wW
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4ae23aa Adam Beckmeyer: pythonPackages.livereload: init at 2.5.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4047619 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #21377 from non-Jedi/pythonPackages.livereload...
<bennofs> gchristensen: was expecting "bad news" after that.
<gchristensen> well the bad news is the new process is probably going to suck for a bit >.> :)
<bennofs> gchristensen: why is that? still the lwn issue?
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<gchristensen> yeah, LWN just isn't doing what they were anymore
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<bennofs> gchristensen: could that be automated by a scraping script or was it manually curated?
<gchristensen> it was manually curated, automating it isn't really feasible
<gchristensen> a certain amount of automation? yes, but then that requires curation
<bennofs> oh ok :/
<MarcWeber> LnL: We can merge our vim code / repos if you like - I don't care - syntax is the same, but my repository also includes some nice goto (follow import) implementation.
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<gchristensen> that's what I've done thus far, guessing the affected package based on key words in subjects: https://gist.github.com/grahamc/4578c4dc415e80717bc3277b58572233
<gchristensen> bennofs: ^
<MarcWeber> LnL: It also contains syntax check on bufwrite. I didn't look at your code yet.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5wA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f54b52f Julien Dehos: gede: init at 2.0.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e096d7c Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23229 from juliendehos/gede...
<MarcWeber> LnL: Pathogen sucks for ":helptags" reasons, vam is equally fast and much more powreful. The problem about plugin managers is lack of "centralazide community management".
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5rv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a9d404c Lancelot SIX: pythonPackages.libais: init at 0.16
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3a919cf Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23242 from lsix/add_python_libais...
<justan0theruser> Can't locate utf8.pm: /root/.nix-profile/lib/perl5/site_perl/utf8.pm: Permission denied at /run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-shell line 3. \nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-shell line 3.
<justan0theruser> I am not in root, I am running nix-shell under another user
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<orivej> justan0theruser: show `head -1 /run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-shell`
<gchristensen> bennofs: using keyword frequency analysis I was able to get about 80-90% accuracy on guessing packages based on the subjects :)
<justan0theruser> orivej: #! /nix/store/pbs5sfnp9bfv27vz9m7h64w3zgkavfqd-perl-5.22.2/bin/perl -w -I/nix/store/pjk50qzcs5n3x43q8hb4556g4xm22rr3-nix-1.11.7/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.22.2/x86_64-linux-thread-multi -I/nix/store/9cd2qfysx5yg5yzb3fc6sslz2k0c07aw-perl-DBI-1.636/lib/perl5/site_perl -I/nix/store/003l1f54sx180b0ficv4yqzxra43wvg4-perl-DBD-SQLite-1.50/lib/perl5/site_perl
<justan0theruser> -I/nix/store/rrwxavbh1yznwfzivnkkm878zaam81kj-perl-WWW-Curl-4.17/lib/perl5/site_perl
<justan0theruser> same output for root as well
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<fresheyeball> how do I deal with a relocation error?
<orivej> justan0theruser: ok, maybe `env | grep /root` has anything beside NIX_PATH?
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<justan0theruser> orivej: https://hastebin.com/raw/omeciyobeh
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<justan0theruser> quite a bit :p
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #21672: Disable tests for zope.configuration on Python3.6 (master...python36-zopeconfiguration-disabletests) https://git.io/vMsV9
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<orivej> justan0theruser: if that is under your normal user, it is quite wrong. in particular, that PERL5LIB breaks nix-shell.
<justan0theruser> orivej: can you recommend a fix?
<bennofs> fresheyeball: what is the relocation error
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<bennofs> fresheyeball: I fixed that particular error in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a4d6e2cf163202b438b2b1af732fa47ea5db5cce
<bennofs> fresheyeball: so it should be fixed in master / next channel update
<fresheyeball> how can I get it now?
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<bennofs> fresheyeball: oops sry
<LnL> gchristensen: great :)
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<LnL> MarcWeber: it's just syntax/indentation
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<FRidh> gchristensen: could you restart the failed in http://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1342126#tabs-aborted ?
<gchristensen> FRidh: yes
<orivej> justan0theruser: one time fix is `unset PERL5LIB`, but permanently - I don't know how you ended up with such configuration. you can check in /run/user/`id -u`/env-vars if NixOS has generated you this configuration, or if you overrode it in your profile
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<justan0theruser> I'll try deluser
<justan0theruser> maybe that would work
<FRidh> thanks
<orivej> Is there a way to configure NixOS to populate /run/curren-system/sw/include, like nix-env populates ~/.nix-profile/include/?
<justan0theruser> orivej: I just did that and rebuild that user from configuration.nix, still has root stuff
<justan0theruser> do you think it might be because I su'd into that user from root?
<FRidh> so that's about 20.000 fewer jobs now than before
<justan0theruser> yep, that'd be it...
<justan0theruser> so if I su into a user the environment variables are kept from the previous user? wtf?
<orivej> how exectly do you su?
<justan0theruser> su username
<ndowens08> ok I tried to create a patch like normally would: diff -Naur origional new > name.patch and put it in nix file patches = [ ./name.patch ]; and gives can not find file to patch.
<orivej> try `su -l username`
<justan0theruser> oh... ok thanks
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5ot
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dcab427 Evan Danaher: vim-plugins: Add infrastructure for python[3]Dependencies....
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4b9ec73 Evan Danaher: vim-plugins: Add ensime-vim and dependencies.
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 846b6d2 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23256 from edanaher/ensime...
<ndowens08> so how do i correctly make a patch that Nix understands?
<bennofs> ndowens08: diff -ru ?
<ndowens08> hmm i'll try that , usually i do Naur
<bennofs> ndowens08: i think nix should understand that too
<bennofs> ndowens08: you might need to adjust -p though
<bennofs> (for patch)
<ndowens08> yeah it gave error too
<bennofs> ndowens08: did you diff the two trees or just the affected source file?
<ndowens08> affect source
<LnL> I usually run unpackPhase in a shell and create a git repo there
<bennofs> ndowens08: you need to diff the whole dir tree I think
<bennofs> ndowens08: or pass -p1 to patch
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23283: proselint: init at 0.8.0 (master...init/proselint) https://git.io/vymVG
<ndowens08> darn lol
<gchristensen> FRidh: done :) took a while, and I got some lunch in the iddle... :)
<gchristensen> lol "0E0 builds have been restarted." sheesh, hydra
<bennofs> ndowens08: or hmm, you might need -p0 for patch, I think nix uses -p1 by default
<bennofs> ndowens08: you can use the patch you generated as well, but you may need patchFlags = "-p0"
<FRidh> gchristensen: lunch...that sometimes so easy to forget.
<gchristensen> it is dinner time for you O.o
<FRidh> gchristensen: by the way, you're the ec2 expert right. Occasionally I need some extra power for just a couple of hours. What method would you suggest for deploying? Use nixops? or the ec2-tools or console?
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<gchristensen> I'd use nixops, it is fairly easy to get setup and is a "one-command" provision
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23303: libseccomp: 2.3.1 -> 2.3.2 + fixed scmp_sys_resolver (master...pkg/libseccomp) https://git.io/vyYgq
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5K3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bb46cde John Chee: zstdmt: init at 0.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 452cc25 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23311 from cheecheeo/zstdmt...
<FRidh> gchristensen: can the EBS storage be removed when destroying an instance?
<gchristensen> ie: preserved? or destroyed?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23376: ANTs: init at 2.1.0 (0gyys1lf) and update ITK accordingly (master...ants) https://git.io/vysDD
<copumpkin> I'm getting a g++ internal error when compiling clang 4 on linux
<FRidh> gchristensen: Destroyed. I just need the space during deployment
<gchristensen> FRidh: it should do so automatically
<copumpkin> :(
<gchristensen> copumpkin: ouch (:
<gchristensen> :(*
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin opened pull request #24014: llvm-4: small improvements on Darwin and elsewhere (master...llvm-4-improvements) https://git.io/vy5Ku
<copumpkin> that PR ^
<copumpkin> if anyone wants to try it out, I'd appreciate it :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Kz
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 247408d Lancelot SIX: pythonPackages.dateutil: 2.5.3 -> 2.6.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b9683c2 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23436 from lsix/update_dateutil...
<LnL> it worked fine before, I think that I tested each rc
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5KP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3f8ed79 ndowens: s6-portable-utils: 2.0.5.3 -> 2.1.0.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c42fac ndowens: s6-portable-utils: Retry of Darwin gcc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c4733c3 ndowens: s6-portable-utils: Trying again for gcc support
<tippenein> is there an equivalent to buildInputs outside of a mkDerivation?
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<tippenein> I'm trying to include ffmpeg in a build for both nix-builds and nix-shells
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<copumpkin> LnL: yeah but look at my change :) I don't think I could've introduced a g++ internal error this way
<LnL> yeah
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<c0bw3b> copumpkin: i get "error: while querying the derivation named ‘freecell-solver-4.8.0’" when running nox-review pr 24014 on nixos
<copumpkin> not sure what would cause that
<LnL> copumpkin: unless this caused it to build with clang before https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24014/files#diff-17fcb327a498a6cd263e429ff90f9227L22
<MichaelRaskin> Shotgun merging by me went bad?
<copumpkin> LnL: perhaps, but that seems like a really weird way to do it
<ndowens08> MichaelRaskin: keeping ya busy? :p
<copumpkin> I don't even think llvm as a buildInput will make it build with clang
<copumpkin> since you aren't asking for clang
<MichaelRaskin> Well, I decided to comb through the backlog
<ndowens08> heh ik gchristensen said one time he spent an hour doing just mine lol
<gchristensen> it is comforting that while I haven't merged a PR in a week (spending all my time on the next roundup) it hasn't gotten _any higher_ O.o
<c0bw3b> it's even back down under 400 \o/
<ndowens08> lol give me time, working on one right now that is giving me trouble
<MichaelRaskin> It was under 300 like two months ago, no?
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<MichaelRaskin> Does everyone understand that we want ikwildrpepper to get around to handing ndowens08 commit rights _before_ the next batch of PRs?
<gchristensen> it was ~280 until a couple days before the branch-off, MichaelRaskin
<copumpkin> MichaelRaskin: email him!
<MichaelRaskin> Well, that's for Monday
<ndowens08> lol
<MichaelRaskin> I mean, there is a background conversation in IRC DMs
<icetan> I'm having a problem with nixops, my local virtualbox guests change IP on reboot and nixops can't ssh to them
<icetan> any fixes/workarounds for this?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy56a
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 194ff8a Tuomas Tynkkynen: gcc-snapshot: Fix eval error
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nlewo closed pull request #19529: Openstack modules (master...openstack) https://git.io/vPwbB
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5658324 Tuomas Tynkkynen: neovim: Fix eval error...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy56d
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d221e40 Michael Raskin: Clean up after freecell-solver update
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy56p
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d429426 Volth: virt-viewer: 2.0 -> 5.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dfbd2dd Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23624 from volth/virt-viewer-5.0...
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<justan0theruser> How do I define the package that I want to call the new derivation? https://hastebin.com/raw/topifariji The option `mystlink' defined in `/etc/nixos/overrides.nix' does not exist.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23677: c3d: init at 1.1.0 (master...c3d) https://git.io/vyVnn
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cba9561 Tuomas Tynkkynen: perl-packages: Fix syntax error
<icetan> Ok, so I managed to workaround the IP stuff by settings networking.privateIPv4 per machine which isn't ideal but at least I can keep working
<c0bw3b> copumpkin : rerunning nox-review right now that freecell-solver is fixed
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<chpatrick> hey
<chpatrick> is it possible to get git to work in a nix-build hook?
<chpatrick> I'm trying to build a package that uses cmake to fetch some dependencies with git
<chpatrick> but it complains about ssl certificates
<copumpkin> c0bw3b: thanks :) it might rebuild a lot of stuff though
<copumpkin> c0bw3b: more interested in the clang derivation itself
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23689: hwdata: Use content-addressed source file; previous source tarball changes contents. (master...hwdata_hashaddr) https://git.io/vyVN9
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<copumpkin> actually it probably won't since it isn't the default LLVM
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23715: Add Mozilla sops package (master...moz-sops) https://git.io/vyw73
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5ii
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 69ce1ed Joachim Fasting: surf-webkit2: init at 2017-03-06
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 87f7ef8 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23722 from joachifm/surf-webkit2...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23726: redo-sh: init at 1.2.6 (master...master) https://git.io/vyr1Q
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23728: libhttpseverywhere: 0.2.3 -> 0.2.10 (master...libhttpseverywhere) https://git.io/vyrdn
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5ih
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6e73c30 ndowens: coinmp: 1.7.6 -> 1.8.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master aaaaf28 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23731 from ndowens/coinmp...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Pe
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9017f36 ndowens: appstream: 0.9.5 -> 0.10.6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7adf4cc Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23735 from ndowens/appstream...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23745: albert: fix #23710 (master...albert) https://git.io/vyoV3
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5PI
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ee160d0 butterflya: Enable openldap support
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ba126da butterflya: Merge branch 'master' into patch-2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cd6b1b2 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23749 from butterflya/patch-2...
<copumpkin> random idea
<copumpkin> a github bot that watches for PRs on nixpkgs and runs nix-instantiate in a manner similar to hydra
<copumpkin> but never builds the actual derivations
<copumpkin> just to figure out how many packages change and whether there's an eval failure
<copumpkin> it would tag things with mass-rebuild automatically
<copumpkin> (or mass-darwin-rebuild)
<Dezgeg> the eval failure checking was done by travis, I guess we could keep that but disable the actual package building...
<copumpkin> (and I guess it could check if the binary cache has the outputs already)
<copumpkin> Dezgeg: oh yeah, travis could do the eval I guess, good idea
<copumpkin> basically seems like a mode for nox-review that doesn't actually build anything
<copumpkin> but just gives you some stats
<ndowens08> omg so much patching to be done, having to remove irssi-version.h references since I dont know how to create it with git inside a package
<Dezgeg> yes, I agree nox-review would have some command for eval checking
<copumpkin> but then again, travis can't really communicate back
<copumpkin> or can travis do more than just say passed or failed?
<Dezgeg> s/would have/would be nice to have/
<MichaelRaskin> Why not create a constant one and insert it?
<gchristensen> copumpkin: no it can't
<Dezgeg> I don't think it can. my friends tried to use travis for scoring clojure exercises and ran into the same thing
<copumpkin> ah
<copumpkin> on the plus side, lots of people write GitHub bots
<copumpkin> and I think having a bot account is explicitly allowed in the TOS
<gchristensen> yeah
<copumpkin> looks like kragniz already took @nixbot as a username :)
<copumpkin> seems like the perfect place to put this
<gchristensen> I have grahamcofborg
<copumpkin> lol
<copumpkin> or that
<gchristensen> it is where prs.nix.gsc.io was going to comment from :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 a710e88 Ambroz Bizjak: kdevelop: 5.0.2 -> 5.0.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 e9fc148 Ambroz Bizjak: kdevelop: 5.0.3 -> 5.0.4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 5c98dcf Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23787 from ambrop72/kdevelop-504-1609...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Xe
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a57d9e4 mimadrid: libzip: 1.1.2 -> 1.2.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e58ab30 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23792 from mimadrid/update/libzip-1.2.0...
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<copumpkin> if I make a change to clang_39, should that go into staging or master?
<copumpkin> I'd prefer master for other reasons, but I don't know how much of linux stuff depends on it
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23802: libp11: 0.2.7 -> 0.4.4 (master...libp11) https://git.io/vyKX9
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #10181: Fully support large file on x86-32 (master...vde64) https://git.io/vc2m6
<LnL> is that the default version for linux?
<copumpkin> yeah
<LnL> not sure, you can use vuncat's script to check
<FRidh> don't webkit and such use clang? In that case I'd say staging
<copumpkin> not sure, probably
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23805: exempi: 2.2.2 -> 2.4.2 (master...exempi) https://git.io/vyKyO
<copumpkin> okay I'll do stagin
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23807: exosip: 4.0.0 -> 4.1.0 (master...exosip) https://git.io/vyKyM
<copumpkin> MichaelRaskin: you're on fire today
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<ndowens08> MichaelRaskin: what ya mean about reference in the enginepkcs11 pkg?
<MichaelRaskin> Well, the PR situation has truly got out of hand
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<MichaelRaskin> You remove a .nix — was it imported anywhere? The commit you reference does not remove any imports
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<ndowens08> ah you mean in the allpackage.nix?
<MichaelRaskin> I need to talk ndowens08 into updating LibreOffice
<MichaelRaskin> probably there, but maybe somewhere else
<ndowens08> hmm have to look there, forgot to clean the ref
<ndowens08> give me a sec, need to take a break from updating irssi anyway
<copumpkin> can I bribe anyone to package MirageOS?
<MichaelRaskin> Sounds like significant amount of work…
<copumpkin> :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5XR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fb35166 ndowens: fcppt: 1.3.0 -> 2.5.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5379810 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23808 from ndowens/fcppt...
<copumpkin> it's just a few OCaml libraries
<copumpkin> 😇
<bennofs> :p
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<sphalerite> Depends entirely on how much you're willing to bribe
<MichaelRaskin> You want me to also merge your PR about that, right?
<copumpkin> MichaelRaskin: I had a PR about that?
<copumpkin> sphalerite: hah, I'll probably end up doing it myself :)
<MichaelRaskin> But it is just a few libraries, right?
<MichaelRaskin> You have time, I haven't reached the end of the backlog…
<copumpkin> :) busy revamping the darwin stdenv right now
<copumpkin> I swear I've compiled LLVM+clang more than many of the llvm developers
<LnL> :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6723703 ndowens: filter-audio: 20150624 -> 0.0.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3d5c322 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23811 from ndowens/filter-audio...
<copumpkin> at least when they build it, they get rebuild avoidance
<copumpkin> we have to compile it from scratch every time
<MichaelRaskin> I remember when Linus got impression that he compiled tinydrm more than the original developers… There also was swearing
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<copumpkin> is there ever not with him?
<Dezgeg> nah, he's getting mellow with the age :)
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<c0bw3b> copumpkin : nox-review just ended properly, no error with clang-4.0 here :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23814: gecode: 4.4.0 -> 5.0.0 (master...gecode) https://git.io/vyK7F
<copumpkin> c0bw3b: oh, it actually built clang for you?
<MichaelRaskin> I think release announcements are often positive and swearing free
<copumpkin> good, my linux box is also building it
<copumpkin> I wonder my other box gives me a g++ internal error then
<Dezgeg> out of memory?
* copumpkin shrugs
<ndowens08> MichaelRaskin: ok removed ref
<copumpkin> Dezgeg: perhaps? does g++ complain that way when it happens?
<c0bw3b> copumpkin : yes it did build clang successfully
<copumpkin> c0bw3b: yay, mind posting that on ticket? I'll probably just merge then
<Dezgeg> yes, I think it does complain like that when the oom killer kills its subprocesses
<copumpkin> Dezgeg: aha, that probably explains it then. Running this in a VM without as much RAM as I'd like
<c0bw3b> no I don't mind, will do
<copumpkin> thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23820: gloox: 1.0.14 -> 1.0.20 (master...gloox) https://git.io/vyKbh
<7JTAATGO8> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5X7
<7JTAATGO8> nixpkgs/master a2d50e7 ndowens: gloox: 1.0.14 -> 1.0.20
<7JTAATGO8> nixpkgs/master 55cd5bc Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23820 from ndowens/gloox...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Xd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 86a23bc ndowens: gmm: 4.3 -> 5.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 435f27c Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23821 from ndowens/gmm...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Xb
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e721905 ndowens: google-gflags: 2.1.2 -> 2.2.0...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7701c03 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23822 from ndowens/google-gflags...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5Xx
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b64c6b4 ndowens: gssdp: 0.14.11 -> 1.0.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6f73e81 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23824 from ndowens/gssdp...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #13950: nvidia-x11: rewrite build (master...nvidia-glvnd) https://git.io/vauE7
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy51J
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 579219d Sean Lee: bitwig-studio: 1.3.12 -> 2.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 79ef974 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23829 from sleexyz/bitwig-studio...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23909: gdal: 2.1.1 -> 2.1.3 (master...udate_gdal) https://git.io/vyMMX
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin closed pull request #24014: llvm-4: small improvements on Darwin and elsewhere (master...llvm-4-improvements) https://git.io/vy5Ku
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0a2ea18 Rodney Lorrimar: pythonPackages.zeep: init at 1.1.0...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c320267 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23934 from rvl/python-zeep...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23937: libdc1394: 2.2.3 -> 2.2.5 (master...libdc) https://git.io/vyy9c
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy51s
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2a65628 Marius Bergmann: restic: init at 0.5.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4707ac3 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23942 from mbrgm/restic...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy51n
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b2a37a7 José Luis Lafuente: hyper: 0.8.3 -> 1.3.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 242abd8 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23969 from jlesquembre/hyper_1.3.1...
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<ndowens08> woot i am now 2nd place in pulse for the month now lol
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg opened pull request #24017: default.nix: Provide correct instructions how to upgrade Nix (master...pr-nix-upgrade) https://git.io/vy51R
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy51E
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f6c1133 koral: ack: 2.14 -> 2.16
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 23b8a46 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23984 from k0ral/nixos-unstable...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin opened pull request #24018: Llvm 39 improvements (staging...llvm-39-improvements) https://git.io/vy51u
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #17631: Provide correct instructions how to upgrade Nix without nixpkgs. (master...nix-upgrade) https://git.io/v6lJG
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23996: phraseapp-client: init at 1.4.3 (master...add-phraseapp) https://git.io/vy763
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy51a
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fbe960a ndowens: transmission-remote-gtk: 1.2 -> 1.3.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6959a1d Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23997 from ndowens/trans-gtk...
<ndowens08> ok so how was it i was suppose to generate version and docs through git when packaging? I believe LnL said something about a git script? if so what do I put in it?
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<ndowens08> it is for irssi, which is a pain to do as a version bump as it generations irssi-version.h through git and src/docs/Makefile.in src/docs/in/Makefile.in using git
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<bennofs> ndowens08: isn't irssi buildable from a source tarball? does that tarball include a .git directory? :o
<MichaelRaskin> I guess they pregenerate irssi-version.h
<copumpkin> ndowens08: we usually patch builds that look for git to just insert the version we want
<LnL> ndowens08: not sure what you are referring to, but you can keep the .git with fetchgit
<ndowens08> copumpkin: i was doing that, by removing references in many files for it and eventually got to the point i couldnt fix it as it caused errors
<MichaelRaskin> It could be an option to pregenerate irssi-version.h manually in a true checkout outside the build and see what to generate in preConfigure
<Dezgeg> keepDotGit with fetchgit breaks quite often, unfortunately
<ndowens08> LnL: how do i do that to see if that helps?
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<LnL> ndowens08: leaveDotGit = true;
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<copumpkin> nooooo!
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<LnL> lol
<copumpkin> we should just kill leaveDotGit
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #23998: owncloud-client: 2.2.3 -> 2.3.0 (master...owncloudclient) https://git.io/vy7bv
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<copumpkin> it causes more problems than it solves
<pikajude> no, don't kill it
<pikajude> it's fine as an option
<copumpkin> it breaks regulrly
<pikajude> right
<copumpkin> it makes people think it's fine and then stabs them in the back
<copumpkin> that's not a fine option
<dtzWill> but causes an assertino failure if you dno't also specify noReallyImAnExpertTrustMe = true;
<LnL> I agree that replacing the source is a lot better
<pikajude> maybe just have reallyLeaveDotGit = true
<pikajude> as an undocumentedo ption
<pikajude> option
<steveeJ> is Ericson2314 from github on this channel?
<copumpkin> pikajude: but it'll regularly break builds...
<copumpkin> steveeJ: Sonarpulse when he's around
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #16578: amarok: set MY_BASEDIR_VERSION to avoid DEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME /not/a/rea… (master...amarok-mysql) https://git.io/vodyr
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<steveeJ> thanks copumpkin
<ndowens08> idk if I can do this pkg lol
<pikajude> yeah...
<pikajude> it will
<pikajude> but it's still a good option to have
<copumpkin> so why do you want to make a package that will almost certainly break when you're not paying attention?
<pikajude> i already use macos
<pikajude> it's too late
<copumpkin> eh, I don't know of other things that magically change hash
<LnL> I see what you did there
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #24003: erlangR19: 19.2.3 -> 19.3 (master...update/pkgs/development/interpreters/erlang/R19) https://git.io/vy5qs
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<sziszi> hey, i'd like some directions as I didn't found anything useful documentation for this. NixOS shipping packages named vimPlugins.* . How can I use them?
<LnL> with vim_configurable
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #24009: spambayes: Add bsddb3 build input (master...spambayes-bsddb-dep) https://git.io/vy5lp
<sziszi> LnL: It seems to me as a vim package. Is there any way to use it with neovim?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5M5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 15ca6e1 Will Dietz: souper: bump to latest--using LLVM 4 and custom KLEE....
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 490803d Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #22971 from dtzWill/update/souper...
<sziszi> Thanks!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5DJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7e902f5 ndowens: umockdev: init at 0.8.13...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 06db15a Michael Raskin: Update default.nix
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dd49357 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #23967 from ndowens/umockdev...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] winniequinn opened pull request #24019: iosevka: 1.4.2 -> 1.11.4 (master...iosevka) https://git.io/vy5Dl
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<sziszi> LnL: I'm in debt now :)
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<NickHu> What terminal emulators do people use? I'm starting to think about ditching urxvt because it doesn't seem to display emojis properly
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] xvapx opened pull request #24020: pythonPackages.libnacl: init at 1.5.0 (master...add/libnacl-1.5.0) https://git.io/vy5DF
<sziszi> NickHu: I'm using gnome-terminal
<sziszi> in a non-Gnome env
<NickHu> Oh really? You like gnome-terminal enough to bring in gnome dependencies just for it?
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<sziszi> i had to ditch termite because it has it's own TERM variable which is unsupported on most remote systems i use
<sziszi> NickHu: I bring the whole gnome3 in. I like the filemanager too :)
<sziszi> and good to have some basic apps to use
<sziszi> so I dont mind
<NickHu> I was thinking about st
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<cornu[m]> or try alacritty https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty
<MichaelRaskin> Erm. If urxvt cannot do something, st cannot do this either
<NickHu> cornu[m]: I tried this when I used to run arch and it crashed all the time - I understand it's very alpha quality right now though
<NickHu> MichaelRaskin: Well.. I launched st, pasted in an emoji, and it rendered fine, so...
<NickHu> cornu[m]: plus it feels like it would be a pain to package for nixos
<MichaelRaskin> How interesting. In urxvt it does depend on the exact emoji in question, I think
<MichaelRaskin> I am not going to use a terminal with no own scrollback, though
<NickHu> MichaelRaskin: st has a scrollback patch
<cornu[m]> NickHu: oh yeah just running it for the last month on arch and its running just fine
<NickHu> I looked this up a while ago, and basically urxvt thinks my font width is too narrow to try to render the unicode symbol
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<NickHu> If I up the font width/size enough, then the emojis render
<MichaelRaskin> In reality, there is displaying emoji, and there is run-time fine-tuning non-standard line spacing and letter spacing. urxvt has the latter and I care about that more than about the former
<NickHu> But terminus looks horrible...
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<MichaelRaskin> Maybe add the emoji font at reduced font size?
<NickHu> I don't really know how to do that
<sziszi> NickHu: use Hack, or Source Pro. Pretty good fonts imho
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<NickHu> sziszi: I'm a little old fashioned; I looked at the terminus alternatives, but I just don't want to switch
<MichaelRaskin> Give me an emoji to test…
<NickHu> MichaelRaskin: 😉
<MichaelRaskin> OK, the trick does work
<MichaelRaskin> It is mostly useless to me in practice, though
<MichaelRaskin> -fn 'xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=13:antialias=false:weight=0,xft:Unifont:pixelsize=12:antialias=false:weight=0,xft:Liberation Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=false:weight=0,xft:Linux Libertine Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=false:weight=0,xft:Noto Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=false:weight=0,xft:Noto Emoji:pixelsize=8:antialias=false:weight=0'
<MichaelRaskin> That is my real font list that does display emoji
<NickHu> MichaelRaskin: You mean the trick where you increase the letter spacing?
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<MichaelRaskin> No, I decrease the letter spacing
<MichaelRaskin> I can decrease the emoji font enough for it to render
<MichaelRaskin> But with slightly decreased letter spacing, the result is not exactly pretty
<bennofs> NickHu: btw, that emoji displays in suckless as cropped to me
<bennofs> like, half of it is missing because it does not fit in the block
<NickHu> bennofs: Yeah, but that's better than a square
<MichaelRaskin> In terms that I want to keep pointsize 12–13 with decreased spacing, so the emojis are so small that the smiley is undistinguishable
<NickHu> I mean, it's recognisable, which is my standard for 'good enough'
<bennofs> and it overlaps the following text a little o.o
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<bennofs> which looks really ugly
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<joachifm> hm, I'm curious, what sort of context is this a problem?
<joachifm> poor emoji rendering, that is
<joachifm> seems like a feature ;)
<Troupal> hello!
<bennofs> joachifm: if you run weechat in urxvt for example
<MichaelRaskin> When you use ii and less and urxvt and some poor souls try to convey parts of the meaning of their messages on #nixos?
<MichaelRaskin> (I do use ii and urxvt, and some people here mistakenly think that approving/disapproving by single emoji is a good idea)
<NickHu> joachifm: exactly what bennofs is saying
<bennofs> NickHu: I just found termite, looks quite nice
<joachifm> hm, I use plain xterm, never noticed ... lucky perhaps
<NickHu> joachifm: It's more that I have facebook messenger hooked up to weechat via bitlbee
<NickHu> So I get sent emojis quite often
<MichaelRaskin> Well, it's not that often
<joachifm> NickHu: oh .. then I see
<MichaelRaskin> (in #nixos, I mean)
<NickHu> And it would be nice to tell what they are
<NickHu> MichaelRaskin: What's the hack you need to force urxvt to ignore the spacing issues?
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<MichaelRaskin> I didn't, look at my string: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=13 but Noto Emoji:pixelsize=8:antialias=false:weight=0
<bennofs> If termite isn't suckless, then I don't know what is. It's only 2k lines of code: https://github.com/thestinger/termite/blob/master/termite.cc (well, it uses gtk, but w/e)
<MichaelRaskin> pixelsize of emoji is simply way smaller
<MichaelRaskin> It also uses a terminal emulator library
<MichaelRaskin> (which is the correct approach)
<bennofs> ye, right
<bennofs> but it actually works, is fast, and is readable code it looks like
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<NickHu> *sigh* maybe the best solution is to set up some weechat replacement triggers to convert it into something like :winkingface: or something
<bennofs> NickHu: what do you think about termite?
<NickHu> Honestly not super pumped about my terminal emulator needing gtk
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<bennofs> oh, ok. do you not use any other program that requires gtk, so you have to have it anyway? :O
<NickHu> I do, but.. Idk, I've been using urxvt for years and I'm actually pretty reluctant to switch away from it
<MichaelRaskin> At some main font size my solution will give you OK emojis
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<NickHu> is suckless.org down for anyone else?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #24021: libfixposix: 30b75609 -> 0.4.1 (master...libfixposix) https://git.io/vy5Sw
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5So
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 333c8c7 Michael Raskin: icu_57: drop
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 28eb668 Michael Raskin: libreoffice-fresh: 5.3.0.3 -> 5.3.1.2
<MichaelRaskin> Not just you
<bennofs> ? it's up for me
<MichaelRaskin> Right now up for me, though
<bennofs> Also says It's just you. http://suckless.org is up. for me
<NickHu> oh, someone did port alacritty to nixos - it's just an open pr
<MichaelRaskin> Well, it was down a bit of time ago
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<sziszi> .nixpkgs/config.nix is freakin' dope
<copumpkin> .config/nixpkgs/config.nix nowadayts
<Yaniel> it's been moved?
<Yaniel> awesome
<copumpkin> well the otherl ocation works too
<copumpkin> but the new one is less polluting :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #24021: libfixposix: 30b75609 -> 0.4.1 (master...libfixposix) https://git.io/vy5Sw
<NickHu> So, if I'm using nixos-unstable, and I want to build a package in my local nixpkgs with as little compilation as possible, at which commit should I base my package?
<NickHu> With stable nixos, I'd base off the tag release-16.09 for example
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<sziszi> NickHu: unstable is rolling so probably you're fine with the latest
<NickHu> In reality, doesn't hydra lack behind a bit?
<LnL> hydra publises the channel
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<MichaelRaskin> nixpkgs-channels has branches tracking hydra
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<orivej> NickHu: `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade` prints the commit at which everything is built in the URL
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin created copumpkin-wip (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vy59o
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/copumpkin-wip 079153c Dan Peebles: stdenv-darwin: bump to use LLVM 4.0 & new bootstrap tools
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin deleted copumpkin-wip at 079153c: https://git.io/vy59K
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<dhess> copumpkin: oh my, I *just* pulled from master an instant before that commit. *pshew* :)
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<copumpkin> dhess: nah that's to the copumpkin-wip branch :)
<copumpkin> but then I forgot that the copumpkin-wip branch is in my fork, so I dleted that one
<dhess> copumpkin: ahh ok. Well, I got bit by master anyway.
<dhess> emacs25Macport is broken :(
<copumpkin> oh that was me
* copumpkin slaps himself
<dhess> copumpkin: got a quick fix?
<copumpkin> haven't had time to look into it yet, but matthewbauer suggested something on the PR that broke it
<dhess> it's one of these header issues
<dhess> ok, I'll just roll back for now.
<LnL> yeah, with the sdk update IIRC
<dhess> figured it was that commit, yeah
<dhess> oh looks like it might be easy to fix, I'll give it a go a bit later
<copumpkin> yeah I'd appreciate someone else taking a look at it if you have time
<justan0theruser> seems like I can't override it, I wuold need to replace it, no?
<dhess> as long as it's not stdenv-related I can probably fix it
<justan0theruser> I guess I can just set postInstall to ""
<dhess> but it might be. Looks like it's still trying to use the 10.9.5 CoreFoundation.framework to build emacs25Macport
<LnL> justan0theruser: doCheck = false;
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24022: shout: 0.51.1 -> 0.53.0 (master...shout) https://git.io/vy5HS
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<justan0theruser> LnL: thanks
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<copumpkin> been getting a lot of 500s from Hydra recently
<LnL> yeah, it's not been happy in general the last week
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vy5Qk
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 b249f7f Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'staging-17.03' into release-17.03
<dhess> copumpkin: yay, I got it to build! Once my "build world" is finished, I'll test it for a bit and if there are no issues, I'll commit the fix.
<copumpkin> yay, thank you!
<dhess> just a simple CFLAGS fix
<copumpkin> was it simple?
<copumpkin> cool
<dhess> s/1090/MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_10/
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<copumpkin> :D
<copumpkin> does it need to be so exact?
<copumpkin> can we make it a bit more robust by either picking that up from the environment
<dhess> copumpkin: If I remove them entirely it breaks. Looks like clang chooses 10.9.5 by default and that broke
<copumpkin> weird, I wonder if we have something else somewhere telling it the wrong thing
<dhess> copumpkin: anyway based on a quick grep, looks like the emacs 24.x macport and qt-5/5.6 and qt-5/5.7 will need a similar fix.
<dhess> I don't build either of those though
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<LnL> emacs24Macport is still in there?
<dhess> Yep
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #22508: emacs24macport: remove (master...remove-emacs24macport) https://git.io/vDlFV
<LnL> forgot about that pr
<dhess> hehe
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<MichaelRaskin> termite, you say. Well, it can show emoji, but putting them in the input breaks in intersting ways
<NickHu> ^ found this to be true too
<MichaelRaskin> (urxvt's tradeoffs are in a different direction, so it cannot break like that, even if the rendering is worse as a result)
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<MichaelRaskin> gnome_terminal depends on WebKit
<NickHu> I'm currently compiling myself a rust compiler so I can try alacritty
<NickHu> wow really??
<NickHu> WebKit lol
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24023: pythonmagick: 0.9.14 -> 0.9.16 (master...pythonmagick) https://git.io/vy5Qb
<FRidh> peti: could you pause the haskell-update job? Hydra has been having quite some difficulty keeping up.
<MichaelRaskin> Well, it has dependency graph complicated enough for graphviz to actually think about it a lot
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<MichaelRaskin> Well, WebKit → gnome-online-accounts → evolution-data-server → gnome-shell → gnome-terminal
<ndowens08> MichaelRaskin: starting to make the PR number go up again :p
<MichaelRaskin> OK, half the Gnome3 would be OK, but I draw the line at using WebKit for tasks unrelated to testing pages in WebKit
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy57G
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f812e39 Orivej Desh: psi-plus: init at 0.16.575.639
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 48bd3ae Orivej Desh: psi-plus: switch to qt5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cea6a24 Orivej Desh: psi-plus: enable plugins
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #24023: pythonmagick: 0.9.14 -> 0.9.16 (master...pythonmagick) https://git.io/vy5Qb
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #12230: [nomerge] [WIP] make Xen compatible with EFI booting (master...xen-efi) https://git.io/vuMcY
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24024: alchemy: 007 -> 008 (master...alchemy) https://git.io/vy57w
<c0bw3b> what's the diff between platforms.unix and platforms.all actually ?
<MichaelRaskin> cygwin?
<c0bw3b> ok yheah
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24025: ahoviewer: 1.4.6 -> 1.4.8 (master...ahoviewer) https://git.io/vy57Q
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #14096: [WIP] Gem with config (master...gem-with-config) https://git.io/vaMLH
<orivej> Does anyone know if NixOS can be configured to link include/ from packages into /run/curren-system/sw/include? Currently I have to install some packages with `nix-env -i` if I want their headers to be accessible in a stable location.
<pikajude> has anyone tried to build qt recently
<pikajude> it's failing in the patch phase for me
<MichaelRaskin> Well, you can always set NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE to include -isystem /run/curren-system/sw/include
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy55m
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7dccfd4 Winnie Quinn: iosevka: 1.4.2 -> 1.11.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 084f726 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #24019 from winniequinn/iosevka...
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<orivej> MichaelRaskin: thanks. I have discovered that for sw/include to appear I had to set `environment.pathsToLink = [ "/include" ]`
<MichaelRaskin> Oh, I have "/" there since forever
<MichaelRaskin> I didn't understand your question correctly, sorry
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<LnL> pikajude: qt57 should work
<pikajude> i agree
<pikajude> it's just 5.8
<pikajude> maybe the copying step messed up
<pikajude> lib.readPathsFromFile was returning ./. at the end of the list
<pikajude> i fixed it by stripping the ending newline from the input file in the definition of readPathsFromFile
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<justan0theruser> so I'm trying to install libgpuarray-cuda and running into "warning: cannot resolve item 'libOpenCL.so.1'
<justan0theruser> "
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #24026: nixos: Use xkbDir consistently so it has an effect (master...use-xkbDir) https://git.io/vy55M
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy55N
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 16fff5e Michael Raskin: pylibmc: init at 1.5.1; patch by @risicle
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #7055: add package for pylibmc, adding cyrus_sasl to libmemcached's propagatedB... (master...pylibmc) https://git.io/jzwr
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<ndowens08> OK updating awesomebump pkg and I get
<ndowens08> applying patch /nix/store/vzr5m4d4czacfr99bc5hmrjs3hs1xia6-qtbase
<ndowens08> patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input.
<ndowens08> builder for ‘/nix/store/3jxzc2wl6pjr264lky3mg9bx71v285vy-qtbase-5.8.0.drv’
<ndowens08> and well there is no patch listed in the pkg, so yea
<ndowens08> must be a patch for qtbase?
<MichaelRaskin> It is a clear build failure in Qt 5.8 qtbase
<MichaelRaskin> And I think it was mentioned 20 minutes ago
<ndowens08> i think it is from cmake patch
<ndowens08> patching file mkspecs/features/data/cmake/Qt5PluginTarget.cmake.in was mentioned before the above paste
<MichaelRaskin> Is Rust bootstrap a g++-like story of fpc-like story?
<bennofs> MichaelRaskin: ? fpc-like
<MichaelRaskin> Well, with g++ the question is whether you specced your computer well enough to be done in an hour
<MichaelRaskin> With fpc the question is whether you can be done in a minute
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<MichaelRaskin> (the answer is usually no, because of the semi-standard library shipped with the compiler, but oh well)
<MichaelRaskin> Last Hydra build — with the shipped libraries — is 3 minutes
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<bennofs> MichaelRaskin: rust bootstrap takes ages i think
<MichaelRaskin> I think I downloaded the bootstrap version and I am currently building the 1.15.1
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<MichaelRaskin> Ouch. 3 hours on Hydra
<MichaelRaskin> Ah, the last build was cancelled and never restarted, so I am left to build locally
<c74d> why 1.15.1? current stable is 1.16.0
<dhess> is there a Python equivalent of haskellPackages' `dontCheck` ?
<MichaelRaskin> I think it is dontCheck
<dhess> hmm, grepping nixpkgs I only see `dontCheck` used in Haskell stuff
<dhess> let me try it anyway
<MichaelRaskin> I guess 1.16.0 is not yet in NixPkgs
<Dezgeg> doCheck = false; it seems
<dhess> oh yeah dontCheck is defined in haskell-modules/lib
<dhess> Dezgeg: thanks, I'll try that
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<dhess> if I can figure out how to override Python modules
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #4320: glibcLocales: cleaner environment handling (master...glibcLocaleDarwin) https://git.io/yBDyPQ
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<c74d> MichaelRaskin: oh, okay; I assumed you weren't limited to what's in nixpkgs if you're building from source. <http://perf.rust-lang.org/table.html> might show how long a given bootstrap build took for Mozilla (I'm not sure because it doesn't work behind my router).
<neeasade> hi -- if I want to add some packages and intent to maintain, should I PR to add myself to maintainers.nix file? can I just omit that meta data for now?
<bennofs> neeasade: add yourself to maintainers is ok i believe
<neeasade> kk
<MichaelRaskin> c74d: I am cleaning up the PRs, and I wanted just to test whether a thing builds
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<MichaelRaskin> I do _not_ have immediate plans to update rustc myself
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #9817: WIP: qtcreator: fix examples (make them visible) (master...qtcreator-fix-examples) https://git.io/vZVS9
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<c0bw3b> meh my git-fu is lacking and GH is insisting I have a conflict in PR 23621
<c0bw3b> while in fact I have embedded the changes made in go1.4.nix to resolve the conflict :/
<bennofs> c0bw3b: to resolve conflicts, you can rebase: git checkout master; git pull; git checkout <your branch>; git rebase master; git push --force-with-lease
<copumpkin> --force-with-lease :O
<bennofs> copumpkin: magit taught me
<c0bw3b> copumpkin : yep thanks will do that
<copumpkin> nice!
<copumpkin> y'all are getting a ton of 500s from hydra, right?
<bennofs> I'm getting 500 errors from cache.nixos.org
<bennofs> oh
<bennofs> :D
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<bennofs> is spamming it with requests to fetch .ls.xz a bad idea?
<copumpkin> cloudfront will rarely 500
<bennofs> copumpkin: well I'm fetching all .ls.xz for all the store paths in the current nixpkgs
<bennofs> copumpkin: so "rarely" is relative
<copumpkin> :)
<copumpkin> you reviving command-not-found?
<bennofs> copumpkin: command-not-found is already reviving. I'm building file-not-found :)
<copumpkin> ooh
<copumpkin> I guess command-not-found could be an instantiation of file-not-found
<copumpkin> use locatedb :P
<bennofs> copumpkin: thought about it, and even started out with a format like locatedb, but I really wanted to include meta data like file size, package name, etc
<bennofs> copumpkin: so my format is currently "similar" to locatedb but not compatible (I basically have a frcoded (that's what findutils locate uses to build locatedb internally) entry per store path)
<copumpkin> fair enough
<copumpkin> sounds very cool
<copumpkin> you gonna publish it with the channel?
<bennofs> copumpkin: could do that. it only takes about a min or so to build the index yourself, so not really necessary
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<bennofs> (and most of the time is spent compressing with zstd, so you could even make it faster by using less compression=
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<copumpkin> how big is it?
<bennofs> copumpkin: ~13 mb with max compression
<copumpkin> wow, for all of nixpkgs?
<copumpkin> still seems pretty brutal HTTP-wise for everyone to be asking for a bajillion tiny .ls.xz files every time they update their channel
<bennofs> copumpkin: everything that is in the closure from nix-env -qaP
<bennofs> copumpkin: which is about 15k derivations
<bennofs> I don't include haskellPackages yet though
<bennofs> should do that
<bennofs> copumpkin: It's not really indexed, just going a grep at the end (but it's front-compressed like locatedb)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] neeasade opened pull request #24027: meh: init at 0.3 (master...add-meh) https://git.io/vy5bQ
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<neeasade> oh hey that's me
<gchristensen> meh
<ndowens08> hmm feh gives No Imlib2 loader for that file format even the older version, tried using wrapProgram but doesnt help
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24028: feh: 2.18.1 -> 2.18.2 (master...feh) https://git.io/vy5N8
<icetan> I have some problems with my hydra which I just can't fix, every time it tries to build ghc-7.4.2 it just aborts
<icetan> no problem when doing "reproduce locally" though
<icetan> very frustrating, I can't really do anything until I've fixed this problem
<icetan> any help would be very much appreciated
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<Troupal> Hello !
<Troupal> Are there anybody ?
<Yaniel> yes
<Troupal> I have some problems after an install of NixOS, during the connection. I wrote this: https://gist.github.com/Troupal/0382f8ea1732e6d75fab72d6d7d8cadf in the file /mnt/etc/nixos/configuration.nix , I initiated nix-install , and I put "" as the unix password. And my problem lies in the fact that I can't connect when kdm starts up, even by putting in login = "troupin" and password = "a" .
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<Troupal> * I put "a" as the unix password.
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<Troupal> How can I do to start a session?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ndowens opened pull request #24029: djview: 4.10.5 -> 4.10.6 (master...djview) https://git.io/vy5As
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] neeasade opened pull request #24031: xrq: init at d5dc19c63881ebdd1287a02968e3a1447dde14a9 (master...add-xrq) https://git.io/vy5Ac
<Troupal> ???
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #24032: gargoyle: init at 2017-03-12 (master...gargoyle) https://git.io/vy5AR
<Troupal> Yaniel: ?? Are you here??
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<Yaniel> searching through the nixos manual atm
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<Yaniel> http://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-user-management the name attribute seems to be redundant?
<Troupal> Where please, I've search, I'm not a nwebi… I've not found… Sorry. It's for that that I cam on the IRC channel…
<Troupal> Thank you !! Do you think it's because the "isNormalUser" attribute ?
<Troupal> or because I've not do " # passwd troupin" before "# nix-install" ?
<neeasade> joachifm: ah! thanks for highlighting the date version bit.
<Yaniel> I think you have to do it after nix-install?
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<Troupal> I precise that I use (for the moment ?) nixos-graphical[...]-x86-64-linux.iso . Is it that it can change something?
<Troupal> Yaniel: Ok, between "# nix-install" and "#reboot (or shutdown) now" ?
<MichaelRaskin> icetan: just in case: did you try to run the «reproduce locally» step in the Hydra builder machines?
<icetan> MichaelRaskin: no, hadn't thought of that. thanks will try it
<Yaniel> Troupal: I'd say after rebooting
<icetan> the weird thing is that it gets "Aborted" not "Failed"
<Yaniel> note that the password you set in nixos-install is for the root user, regardless of what users you define in your config
<icetan> and also shows a random message like "no source"
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<MichaelRaskin> I do not use Hydra, but «no source» sounds like a failure to obtain the thing that Hydra should continuously integrate
<MichaelRaskin> Although that should fail on evaluation, not on the build
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<icetan> yeah, and sometimes there is no message and sometimes some other thing like "Aborted: protocol error processing standard error"
<icetan> or "Aborted: non-zero padding"
<icetan> or "Aborted: non-zero padding"
<icetan> so some other underlying problem
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<icetan> oops pasted same twice
<icetan> another error is "Aborted: unexpected end-of-file"
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