<pie_>
i have half the earbuds monitoring one thing and the other half another thing so i can make sense of anything lol
<pie_>
the droidcam obs plugin is apparently more reliable than the standalone app lol, so im using the droidcam obs plugin to get audio and video off the cell phone im using as a webcam, and using the obs audio monitor functionality to expose that to pulse on a separate device which then gets routed around by jack :'D
<pie_>
year of the linux desktop
<siraben>
meanwhile macOS audio setup is maintenance free
<siraben>
not that I enjoy all aspects of macOS but some issues I can't be bothered to deal with in a reasonable timespan
<pie_>
i mean most of this is me doing ridiculous things
<pie_>
well, maybe ridiculous but not pointless
<pie_>
i was thinking earlier today here i am doing this crap and people wouldnt put up with it on windows
<pie_>
well, at least the backend audio server issues
<pie_>
but idk
<pie_>
siraben: i mean, youre not trying to route your mobile audio and video through to your computers webcam though are you
<siraben>
nope, heh
<pie_>
i hope pipewire will just magically make this work for everything. idk what it does but its called pipewire, which is suggestive
<pie_>
nixos is magic. i can just pull whatever software and it willmore or less work
<pie_>
sooooo good <3
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<colemickens>
yall. gpg has `--faked-system-time` but it doesn't fake the time for all operations, but instead starts time from that point. So the amount of time taken to enter information affects the generated material.
<colemickens>
oops, I should read the docs "If you suffix epoch with an exclamation mark (!), the system time will appear to be frozen at the specified time. "
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<siraben>
Sigh. macOS cache is still behind quite a bit
<eyJhb>
Well, I guess it is time to switch phone. I keep loosing connection to mobile network... Have to restart it four times a day
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<{^_^}>
SN11 test flight maybe, T-01:18:50, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDL-ZMRHYrE but might get scrubbed because of fog: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred] risson
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<philipp[m]2>
So texas fog watchers today? 😂
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<gchristensen>
oh cool
<gchristensen>
that is a lot of fog
<hexa->
right, I don't see github notifications over in #nixos anymore due to all the fog
<gchristensen>
lol
<gchristensen>
I'll try to fix it before work starts
<adisbladis>
I take it even the fog is big in texas
<gchristensen>
aarrrrgghhh
<f0x>
sorry, must be all my brainfog drifting over :P
<{^_^}>
in T-4:10!: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred] risson
<philipp[m]2>
They are not doing visual flight, so they don't care about fog.
<gchristensen>
holy shit lol that sound
<philipp[m]2>
Fun fact: the spacex stream piped through the nasaspaceflight stream is ~10s ahead of the official stream for me.
<infinisil>
The engines adjusting is so cool
<infinisil>
When one of them shuts down
<gchristensen>
it is wild to me that those engines wiggling around is on purpose and precise, and not just "yeah theres a big ol' rocket down here pushing me around a bit"
<infinisil>
lol
<infinisil>
Aaand stream lost
<infinisil>
Blue sky!
<infinisil>
philipp[m]2: It's 10 seconds behind for me
<supersandro2000>
wom
<infinisil>
Aaaaand....?
<infinisil>
That's a boom alright!
<infinisil>
Multiple booms?
<gchristensen>
I wonder if their sensors handle fog well
<gchristensen>
like their "how high are we?"
<hexa->
is that an okay boom
<gchristensen>
haha no
<infinisil>
That's a no
<hexa->
:D
<philipp[m]2>
Well, we can be sure that some of SN11 landed on the landing pad, I guess.
<ldlework>
SpaceX needs an international external existential threat.
<infinisil>
We got some nice RUD
<philipp[m]2>
ldlework: They do have one of the most succesfull anti-ship missiles ever created in their arsenal.
<infinisil>
Couldn't like infrared cameras penetrate through the fod
<infinisil>
fog*
<gchristensen>
not thick fog, since it is seeing the infrared emitted from the fog
<gchristensen>
radar can see through fog, lidar can't see through fog
<philipp[m]2>
Yeah, those fancy military vision systems on drones and all that use multiple wavelengths to minimize visibility problems but I think they are still very expensive.
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<__monty__>
Oh, system headers "XXX So deprecated, it would make your head spin" : )
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<ar>
__monty__: is that macos?
<Ox4A6F>
innernet, dang. Was so excited, that I didn't searched for issues before starting a port. Thanks tomberek
<joepie91>
is innernet basically the open-source equivalent of that-thing-that-gchristensen-was-raving-about?
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<cransom>
tailscale, approximately yes
<bbigras>
[0x4A6F]: hehe
<joepie91>
cransom: tailscale, that's the one! thanks
<gchristensen>
am I raving about it? :P
<bbigras>
tailscale is awesome. I wish we could host a 100% free version.
<bbigras>
fanboy!
<ajs124>
do any more them do dynamic routing? and if so, how?
<bbigras>
what is dynamic routing?
<bbigras>
do you mean using relays?
<lassulus>
node goes down, traffic gets routed via another node?
<ajs124>
using relays or any other way. basically, right now, we're running a patched version of bird that can update wireguard AllowedIPs, but I'm sometimes wondering if we can replace that.
<cransom>
it's point to multipoint, from what i can tell
<bbigras>
tailscale has relays but it won't be in the free version according to the pricing page.
<cransom>
a full mesh, basically. but i don't know specifically about innernet
<lassulus>
still haven't found an alternative for tinc for me
<gchristensen>
I fully expected to see my website in that screenshot
<gchristensen>
time to add another 9 to their z-index?
<lassulus>
at least the copy-to-clipboard buttons are in view
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<drakonis>
damn, its even better when fully voiced
<drakonis>
amazing.
<samueldr>
z-index is not the solution, the solution is to be aware of the GUI elements and not place the popover where it's obviously known to be covered
<samueldr>
but really the solution is to not even start needing to worry about z-indexing
<samueldr>
popovers and such are a bad antipattern
<samueldr>
*if* you need to hide something from view, do it in an accordion thingy so it stays in the flow of the page
<samueldr>
this way, for the low low cost of free* you make sure to never have that class of bugs
<samueldr>
* conditions may apply, graphics designer may get aggravated
<pie_>
we need a bot that pipes all this crap through archive.vn so i dotn have to deal with those cookie popups
<bbigras>
Didn't Ubiquiti made the "news" this week for putting ads in their UIs?
<pie_>
i saw that earlier today *shrug* xD
<pie_>
also the ads could have been worse, it was an ad for their own product at least but eh
<samueldr>
joke's on you, I don't get the cookie pop-ups because they (unlawfully?) show them only to european visitors
<samueldr>
OR, because I'm content blocking them?
<pie_>
well yahoo has this while like redirect page they put you through
<bbigras>
"show them only to european visitors" nah. many web sites here in Canada do them to because they think it's cool or something. or don't know it doesn't apply to them.
<samueldr>
bbigras: I know some show them, but also others don't
<samueldr>
but since it applies to europeans, wherever they are, they can't stop showing it by country of origin of the request!
<samueldr>
(IIRC)
<bbigras>
oh you meant on this case. not every cases.
<bbigras>
but europeans laws don't apply to us
<pie_>
one of us one of us xD
<samueldr>
that's a whole issue that will at some point end up before courts: how is it _actually_ enforceable outside of europe, I guess
<samueldr>
AFAIUI if you're dealing with european individuals, or people in europe, that GDPR thingy applies, even if you're not in europe
<bbigras>
that's silly. did my gov sign anything for that?
<samueldr>
I don't know how "but europeans laws don't apply to us" even applies here :)
<samueldr>
that's why I'm curious to see what will happen about that in the future
<samueldr>
I could also be way off-base
<bbigras>
I mean if my website receive an european fine or whatever. Why would I comply?
<samueldr>
since IANAL and I never even played one on TV
<samueldr>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<bbigras>
I played Ace Attorney once
<samueldr>
did you know google play services for android, and many OEMs' systems, are probably using illegal practices in canada
<samueldr>
unlawful maybe*
<samueldr>
where there is no way to disagree to automatic system updates
<samueldr>
but part of our law for user consent specifically says we have the right to disallow automatic updates
<samueldr>
[citation needed]
<samueldr>
but I guess it must be either something I misunderstood, some lawyerly speak for something else... or totally unenforceable
<samueldr>
since... the most popular operating systems (android, windows) both ignore that
<bbigras>
I mean, Canada could fine Google. I wonder if it's different since Google has offices here.
<bbigras>
versus my website hosted in Canada but used by europeans. I guess they could block it.
<bbigras>
but good luck sending me a fine. I don't think Canada would extradite me for that.
<bbigras>
oh yeah that. Can they fine companies from the US?
<samueldr>
no clue
<samueldr>
IANAL
<samueldr>
probably there's ways
<samueldr>
and many of them also have presence in CAnada
<samueldr>
Canada*
<samueldr>
then yes
<bbigras>
yeah.
<samueldr>
that's all a thing you'll have to ask about your lawyer for your own website
<samueldr>
but AFAIUI in practice "it applies"
<samueldr>
I don't know what "it applies" *actually* means
<bbigras>
nah. fuck those europeans little bitches. sue me for not having a cookie banner.
<lovesegfault>
O.O
<gchristensen>
yikes
<lovesegfault>
that's strong worded
<samueldr>
uh... language :)
<bbigras>
I don't have anything against europeans people. I was more referring to one that would pretend his laws affect me.
<samueldr>
anyway you still have to comply with PIPEDA which, other than the consent wall, is "good enough" for GDPR in many instances
<bbigras>
we all live in the same hell. I don't discriminate.
<hexa->
bbigras: are you american by chance?
<bbigras>
no
<hexa->
good :p
<lovesegfault>
I suggest we stop this weird nationality-bashing
<bbigras>
android might have a way to disable os updates... in the dev settings
<lovesegfault>
people don't get to choose where they're born
<samueldr>
bbigras: the important point is it's about consent
<samueldr>
you're not allowed to not consent
<samueldr>
which makes it illegal
<samueldr>
(AFAIUI(
<hexa->
this ^
<bbigras>
samueldr: so disabling updates is not good enough?
<samueldr>
you don't retract the consent
<samueldr>
and you might be forced to do an update first even when you don't actually consent
<samueldr>
there are rare situations where android will force you to do an update before doing some actions
<samueldr>
e.g. bootloader unlocking
<bbigras>
lovesegfault: I wasn't bashing europeans btw. I just find it silly if their cookie-laws would apply to us.
<hodapp>
one is left to wonder which "little bitches" then you referred to
<samueldr>
AFAIUI the reasoning is that they want to (1) check online that the device is not stolen (2) update the system to remove possible bugs from FRP locks
<samueldr>
but it also allows (3) remove agency for the end-user to control the device if the device manufacturer patches an early boot exploit
<bbigras>
hodapp: I don't see any Europeans telling me that their laws apply to me. so I wasn't referring to anyone. maybe law-makers. if and only if they claimed power over me. and maybe joking was what I was doing. don't you use hyperboles for no reason sometimes?
<hodapp>
tend to avoid it when speaking of entire populations
<bbigras>
fair enough, if you can't handle context.
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<hodapp>
the mere fact of my allowing something besides context to speak does not somehow imply that I cannot or do not handle context
<gchristensen>
fwiw I had also PM'd them asking them to refrain from that sort of behavior in the future
<hodapp>
but it is certainly curious that most accusations of "taking something out of context" and the like are, ironically, done in such a way as to ignore the greater context that 99% of the time that's said, the context fails to exonerate them from how their own words were heard
<hodapp>
which is, double ironically, also often an utter failure to read the context that includes the audience
<hodapp>
yet here we are
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<drakonis>
oh
<drakonis>
noita updated too
<drakonis>
new major update
<__monty__>
joepie91 might actually know more.
<__monty__>
But I assume the GDPR only applies to sites that do business in the EU.
<__monty__>
They may elect not to create exceptions for non-EU visitors though.
<samueldr>
every time I was aware of a discussion about that, not exactly... but I definitely don't grok all that
<samueldr>
not to be confused with Cortex-A9 either
<gchristensen>
wow, that is big.
<gchristensen>
I'd be surprised if they could fit that one in a mobile device
<samueldr>
>> Armv9 continues the usage of AArch64 as the baseline instruction set, however adds in a few very important extensions in its capabilities that warrants an increment in the architecture numbering
<samueldr>
btw read the other pages of the article
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<samueldr>
Arm Confidential Compute Architecture
<hodapp>
ooooh
<hodapp>
:|
<samueldr>
>> Applications within a realm would be able to “attest” a realm manager in order to determine that it can be trusted, which isn’t possible with say a traditional hypervisor.
<samueldr>
ewww... most likely in most implementations
<samueldr>
security here most likely is for DRM and such
<hodapp>
yeah, sadly
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<samueldr>
too bad because if the user had control here it could mean amazing things
<samueldr>
[assuming the implementation is secure]
<hodapp>
the ML stuff makes me a little twitchy too, in that a lot of it just looks like it's chasing a fad of trying to apply ML everywhere
<samueldr>
which, we both have to assume yes and no at once
<samueldr>
meh, ML was already present on everything *anyway*
<samueldr>
if anything it'll help by having it be part of the spec
<samueldr>
rather than having different incompatible(????) cores
<samueldr>
I don't EVEN know what those ML and "AI" cores do
<hodapp>
likely just some accelerated matrix operations for deep neural nets
<hodapp>
things like convolution
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<hodapp>
which is fine but the marketing for it can get incredibly dumb
<hodapp>
in terms of drastic overstatement of both how much it can do, and what the applications of it are
<samueldr>
I was reading an article about SN11's failed attempt on a news website
<samueldr>
and they stated (loosely translated) "the final version will launch to an altitude of 120 meters and will be able to carry a 100 tonnes cargo in orbit"
<gchristensen>
lmao
<samueldr>
whew, at 120m it'll need to go fast to stay in orbit!
<hodapp>
o_O
<samueldr>
it's a mistake in the AFP (agence france-presse) new wire article AFAICT
<samueldr>
news wire*
<samueldr>
accordions (the UI elements) should make the instrument's sounds
<joepie91>
__monty__: roughly speaking, GDPR applies to all data involving citizens and residents of EU countries, regardless of where the organization itself is located
<samueldr>
joepie91: I was led to believe even non-citizens and non-residents when they are in europe
<samueldr>
(to add to the confusion)
<joepie91>
samueldr: yeah, sorry, with 'residents' I mean anyone who currently resides in the EU" (!= Europe)
<joepie91>
blah
<joepie91>
"anyone who currently resides in the EU" *
<samueldr>
so I'm led to believe I could have called my telco, and did a GDPR thingy with them while I was in the EU!
<samueldr>
which makes things awfully confusing!
<joepie91>
believe so yep
<samueldr>
and there lies my main confusion: how does it *actually* apply outside of the EU!
<samueldr>
which I guess will be a fun thing to discover at some point in the future
<joepie91>
samueldr: not sure what you mean?
<joepie91>
do you mean "how can it be enforced against companies outside the EU"?
<samueldr>
yeah
<__monty__>
So it does not apply to EU citizens residing outside the EU?
<joepie91>
same way as any other international law, 1) tell the convicted that they have an obligation, 2) if they refuse to fulfill it, go through international legal cooperation channels, 3) if that also fails, start seizing anything owned by the convicted party within jurisdiction
<joepie91>
__monty__: it does, afaik
<joepie91>
scope = citizen || resident, not citizen && resident
<__monty__>
Thanks.
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