<gchristensen>
I think my next laptop needs 32g ram
<samueldr>
hah, as if
<samueldr>
I've been tentatively looking at laptops for a good while
<samueldr>
and it's pretty ridiculous
<samueldr>
I'll preface that the choice is more limited here
<samueldr>
but good luck with anything 16GB or more that is not extremely overpriced
<samueldr>
or even simply available
<samueldr>
when I bought my current laptop in early 2015 8GB was the norm in its price segment... these days in its price segment it's a toss-up between 4GB or 8GB
<gchristensen>
yeah, I know, even just 16G is a really limited set of laptops
<samueldr>
you pretty much have to go into workstation class laptops (and prices) or into gamer heavyweights
<samueldr>
and game means nvidia gpu (amd? on mobile? nah)
<gchristensen>
yeah :(
<gchristensen>
I'm a big fan of these teeny tiny laptops, though
<colemickens>
Thinkpad has some non-bulky, even AMD options, if you're willing to live with 1080p screens...
<samueldr>
I would be fine with the same I have right now, but two SODIMM slots that can go to 64GiB and a ryzen
<samueldr>
because I strongly prefer the 2-in-1 laptop
<colemickens>
Unfortunately, I'm not willing to live with 1080p and I'm convinced Intel made a deal with OEMs to keep WQHD exclusive to Intel for some amount of time.
<samueldr>
and that's not helping
<samueldr>
I don't think so, considering the zephyrus 14G
<gchristensen>
colemickens: I am also not thrilled about that
<samueldr>
if there was a zephyrus 14G without nvidia, I would have ordered already
<samueldr>
(though I like 1080p on a laptop ~13")
<samueldr>
"build your own" 8GB soldered and no option to change
<aanderse>
how have you been gchristensen?
<colemickens>
If you're not opposed to Thinkpad, there's the X13 AMD. Ryzen, 32G of RAM, 500nit screen, 1TB NVME, almost $3k though.
<gchristensen>
aanderse: doing pretty well but woof I need a vacation, how about you?
* colemickens
is reminded that his xps has started bulging and it's time to expedite this shopping process
<gchristensen>
ow
<aanderse>
i agree, i could use one as well
<samueldr>
colemickens: your own spicy pillow
<aanderse>
wanted to take one... too busy
<aanderse>
now coworker is going off on parental leave (yay! ... at least for him. not as much for me.)
<samueldr>
>> 15.6" HD (1366 x 768) anti-glare, 220 nits
<samueldr>
how is this still legal?
<gchristensen>
?????
<samueldr>
in a fresh new not-low-tier laptop even!
* colemickens
is rationalizing
* colemickens
just imagines the extra battery life from 1080p!
<samueldr>
it's actually something to consider
<cole-h>
If it weren't coronavirus times, I would suggest aanderse and gchristensen take a vacation together ;P
<gchristensen>
unfortunately his country won't let me visit
<cole-h>
Just go to some place that accepts you both :D
<gchristensen>
:)
* colemickens
gestures around at IRC
<colemickens>
where better to vacation?
<cole-h>
Bed
<samueldr>
you can combine both!
<bqv>
that sounds too good to be healthy
<gchristensen>
I can confirm that it is not healthy, and is why I had to stop using riot
<colemickens>
All that time we dream, wasted, when we could be reviewing nixpkgs prs...
<cole-h>
colemickens++
<{^_^}>
colemickens's karma got increased to 0b11011
<cole-h>
F. I updated pgtk-emacs and now I only get terminal windows :(
<bqv>
:(
<cole-h>
Reverted and all good now.
<cole-h>
Too lazy to bisect.
<bqv>
which commit did you update from?
<cole-h>
c6ff556f390e5e573d5d0c4fb3a2da54a0a433dc to HEAD
<cole-h>
(54ef44216cef3480d69b4da2f46b8db5b0249d64 as of now)
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<samueldr>
I don't understand how git itself can't `git show ... | git am` correctly
<samueldr>
(with conflit, and resolution)
<samueldr>
it somehow loses the information from its own patch about the author
<samueldr>
and gives the useful error "fatal: empty ident name (for <>) not allowed"
<samueldr>
that's on `git am --continue`
<cole-h>
Maybe it looks for `From:` and not `Author:`
<cole-h>
e.g. I had that problem when piping patches from aerc to `git am` when I didn't also include the full message (there was no subject or from headers)
<samueldr>
ah, `git show` no, `git format-patch --stdout` yes
<samueldr>
subtly broken for no good reason I see
<samueldr>
as per git
<cole-h>
:^)
<samueldr>
why show almost the same info in subtly differently broken manners?
<samueldr>
I wanted the `am` to fail so I could fix the change and commit back with the original patch's author info
<samueldr>
also quite frustrating that even with --interactive there seems to be no way to fix the author
<samueldr>
the only recourse you seem to have is to dump the patch (--show-patch) abort and re-import
<samueldr>
and it's not like during a rebase or something like that, that if you do the commit things are generally okay
<cole-h>
I've been running without it for months and no problems.
<cole-h>
Maybe it already has it?
<bqv>
Yeah the top section of the readme, heh
<cole-h>
Yeah, it does already have cairo lol
<bqv>
Ahh ok
<cole-h>
The emacs26 derivation, at least.
<bqv>
I was just overly cautious I guess
<cole-h>
bqv++ Thanks, `--with-pgtk` works :^)
<{^_^}>
bqv's karma got increased to 13
<jackdk>
{^_^}++ thanks for tracking everyone's karma
<{^_^}>
{^_^}'s karma got increased to 209
<cole-h>
lol
<cole-h>
,cookie
<cole-h>
,botsnack
<{^_^}>
Oh thanks, have a cookie yourself
<cole-h>
I forgot
<bqv>
:D
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<bqv>
Nyxt still hasn't released their new version
<bqv>
I feel like I'm being trolled at this point
<bqv>
I wouldn't care, but nixpkgs is all hairy about untagged versions, so this will never get packaged, and I genuinely can't package it myself
<cole-h>
How do you mean, it's hairy? Just set the version to `unstable-date-of-last-commit` and done.
<ashkitten>
anyone know if there's a way to figure out what program is intercepting my keypresses in x11?
<bqv>
cole-h: I've heard that nixpkgs folk don't like unreleased stuff. Anyway, either way, I can't figure lispPackages out so I can't, which is why I was waiting for a release, so I have a reason to say "can someone help package this"
<cole-h>
bqv: We *prefer* released stuff. Some pieces of software don't get releases enough to warrant following the tags, considering how fast-moving they are/how slow they are to tag. You could nicely ask them to tag a new release, though.
<bqv>
I asked them nicely to tag a new release, 3 months ago, they still haven't.
<bqv>
But yeah, if nixpkgs is happy to have untagged stuff thats good, but I still need help
<bqv>
I've tried several times and I still have no clue how to properly fiddle lispPackages
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<ashkitten>
hm
<ashkitten>
i actually really dislike this keyboard
<samueldr>
this is an evergreen irc comment
<samueldr>
whatever the keyboard is, I'm sure it applies ;)
<ashkitten>
samueldr: i just passed off the cosmo onto ky0ko because she'll probably enjoy it a lot more than me (i got it as primarily a linux device and i'm extremely disappointed in its capability for that)
<ashkitten>
really the thing that's holding it back most is the keyboard :/
<samueldr>
I am not really surprised by this development
<ashkitten>
meh
<ashkitten>
at least it won't go to waste
<samueldr>
sure I was hopeful that it was going to be a good linux machine
<samueldr>
but it started two strikes in with mediatek android-based device
<samueldr>
and, I personally think the keyboard is horrible because it can't map to my usual keymap
<ashkitten>
i'm sure we could've gotten it working at least as well as gemian, but what are you meant to do with a device that has an awful keyboard like that?
<samueldr>
that's my thoughts too :)
<ashkitten>
the fn key is mapped in software and a lot of symbols are behind it, so you can't even do for instance ctrl+-
<ashkitten>
and there is no way to access f1-f12
<samueldr>
like literally can't map the keymap I use, the V key right of space should be an Alt Gr at the very least
<samueldr>
oof, pretty much what I expected, that it was all done in software
<ashkitten>
when the pinephone keyboard becomes a thing i'll likely buy a pinephone and that
<ashkitten>
i expect that to be much better
<samueldr>
and it's more likely to be hackable
<ashkitten>
but realistically they're both based on the original psion keyboard design
<ashkitten>
idk if it'll actually work out better than the cosmo
<samueldr>
in my particular use case, definitely not
<samueldr>
the "cf" keyboard doesn't map well to fewer keys
<samueldr>
and it has imo one of the best mapping for accented characters (quite needed here) combined with more "technical" characters being readily available
<samueldr>
the actually recommended keyboard for here is worse, instead of dead keys (`e -> è) it uses much of the real estate to provide pre-baked accented characters
<samueldr>
so it moves all the useful keys deeper into shift and third levels
<bqv>
Libraries can leak into a nix shell, can't they
<bqv>
Yes, of course, --pure
<samueldr>
many environment and ambient impurities do
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<ashkitten>
so my gpu still crashes when launching steam on kernel 5.7
<eyJhb>
ashkitten: well it is nice it is written in rust
<bqv>
eyJhb: emacs…? :p
<eyJhb>
bqv: out.
<bqv>
Sorry :D
<bqv>
Legitimately true though
<eyJhb>
Shooo
<bqv>
I might fallback to termite if emacs is dead
<ashkitten>
so i'm having what i believe to be mesa-related gpu crashes whenever i launch steam. not sure how to debug further than that since i can't just change the mesa version without rebuilding the world
<ashkitten>
tried updating to linux_latest but it didn't help
<ashkitten>
dunno what to do
<ashkitten>
i assume a mesa update would fix it, but i clearly can't do that
<ashkitten>
update: `RADV_PERFTEST=aco steam` works
<ashkitten>
for some damn reason
<bqv>
i come to you from wayland!
<ashkitten>
bqv: grats
<bqv>
it's rudimentary and hacky as fuck, but it works
<bqv>
this reminds me of my dwm days
<bqv>
where your entire config is specced out by patches to c code
<arianvp>
I'm waiting for hashicorp-supported nixos modules for consul vault and nomad
<arianvp>
:p
<elvishjerricco>
TIL bash allows stuff like `foo || { <multiple lines of commands> }` for doing many things in response to `foo` failing.
<elvishjerricco>
That would have been good to know in the past
<infinisil>
I prefer `if ! foo; then <commands> fi`
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<FRidh>
arianvp: looking forward to having the nix cli stable, because showing how that works (together with flakes) is another order of magnitude neater IMO. Using it already for a while now and definitely don't want to go back
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<manveru>
arianvp: well, i might have something for you :)
<samueldr>
and there it's a game... I expected to see fsck
<arianvp>
manveru: wow great!
<manveru>
still missing is deployment of nomad jobs... had to work through a heap of other tricky things first :)
<manveru>
have a prototype for running completely nix-defined jobs, but gonna need docker up first :|
<manveru>
and still wondering what to do about certs, the nice ACME integration is pretty much the only reason i'm using nginx instead of haproxy there... in theory it should use envoy, but god knows how to actually configure that and i'm kinda out of time for experiments
<manveru>
consul connect already uses envoy, but that's not exposed directly yet
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