gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<bqv> haha
<bqv> no idea
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<DigitalKiwi> infinisil: that's why you pay in rupees
<infinisil> Heh
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<Shados> bqv: that didn't appear to mention a ddos at all?
<samueldr> I'm chalking that article to bad reporting on a technical topic
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<c74d> hrmf, GDM doesn't seem to respect its own `[greeter]Exclude` configuration option
* c74d was trying to make it respect services.xserver.displayManager.hiddenUsers
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<lovesegfault> ashkitten: I do have an intuitive notion of a monad, I think
<lovesegfault> But so far trying to verbalize it has been useless
<pie_> Im pondering making audiobooks of textbooks im reading anyway, has anyone seen any sort of good software setup for audio recording? so i dont have to fiddle with dealing with silence, and stuff too much?
<pie_> and or guides or whatever
<pie_> ill do some googling later but i thought i might as well pose the question
<energizer> pie_: audacity
<cole-h> lovesegfault: I've heard that https://haskellbook.com/ is better than LYAH
<cole-h> (From various people, including peti)
<DigitalKiwi> i couldn't finish it
<DigitalKiwi> was too long lol
<c74d> hm, back in my day it was "Real World Haskell is better than LYAH"
<c74d> I didn't know there's a new one
<DigitalKiwi> RWH is a bit out of date
<c74d> I think it was even back then :)
* DigitalKiwi swears by PiH - graham hutton
<DigitalKiwi> the will kurt is alright
<DigitalKiwi> and i guess first principles is too if not long winded
<DigitalKiwi> i read the new book by chris martin and julie moronuki and it was decent...and short
<DigitalKiwi> i don't think it's a good intro book though idk
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<pie_> haskellbook was good for me when i really couldnt handle haskell
<pie_> yes its long and verbose
<pie_> but sometimes you need that
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<pie_> DigitalKiwi: oh yeah i havent read that but i heard the hutton book )iirc) is good
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<lovesegfault> Eh, what do I do if I'm bumping a py pkg that no longer supports py2?
<cole-h> Depends on what you'rea really asking
<lovesegfault> How do I tell nix "don't even try building this for py2
<cole-h> I've seen a `disabled` attribute that's part of the derivation -- usually set to `!isPy3k` I think
<lovesegfault> Oh, in top-level
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<DigitalKiwi> if you check ocrmypdf i do it
<DigitalKiwi> disabled = ! python3Packages.isPy3k;
<lovesegfault> coveralls = disabledIf (pythonOlder "3.5") (callPackage ../development/python-modules/coveralls { });
<lovesegfault> I did this
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<Shados> bqv, samueldr: Wasn't DDOS at all. Our gov is publicly blaming China. Taking a look through the details about it in the ASD advisory here https://www.cyber.gov.au/threats/advisory-2020-008-copy-paste-compromises-tactics-techniques-and-procedures-used-target-multiple-australian-networks and I seriously doubt any state-level actors were involved. Aus gov probably just doesn't want to look as shit as they are.
<JJJollyjim> The apparent contradiction between "this is a super advanced state actor, only a few states have these capabilities" and "they're copying scripts off the internet to exploit old vulns and standard phishing techniques" is odd
<Shados> Not really. It's just the natural intersection of politics and infosec: the former pushes toward covering their ass publicity-wise, the latter towards providing actually useful information for other orgs to protect themselves.
<Shados> It is fairly transparent to anyone who knows anything about computer security, but that's a tiny proportion of the population. And an even smaller proportion of them are going to actually read the advisory.
<JJJollyjim> It's not buried in the advisory though, it's the headline
<JJJollyjim> "copy paste compromises" = "they're script kiddies"
<Shados> Yes, it's in the headline... of the advisory. That's not a major news article or something -- sweet fuck all people are going to even be aware the advisory exists.
<JJJollyjim> true
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<gchristensen> I really need to figure out the 0.0.0.0/0 VPN thing so I can do roaming network connections :(
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<hexa-> gchristensen: 0.0.0.0/1 via VPN, 128.0.0.0/1 via VPN, $yourvpnendpoint/32 via $actualgateway
<hexa-> or hm
<hexa-> nvm
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<hexa-> 0.0.0.0/0 via VPN, $yourvpnendpoint/32 via $defaultgw
<hexa-> more specific route trumps the less specific one
<sphalerite> joepie91: iirc not letting old software die is your jam, do you know of any efforts to keep old flash software working?
<gchristensen> I think there is a reason that doesn't work so nicely ... am I misremembering, hexa-?
<gchristensen> lik,e why does wg-quick use policy routing
<hexa-> if your uplink is floating … the /32 route via $actualgateway is kinda flaky
<joepie91> sphalerite: it's... complicated. to my knowledge, people were betting on Gnash previously, but that has gone unmaintained. I think there was some conversion effort at some point for SWFs, but I don't recall the name and haven't heard anything of it for years
<joepie91> far as I know, people currently deal with Flash by just running ancient browsers and flash players
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<clever> hexa-: you can also configure multiple routing tables
<hexa-> sure can
<clever> hexa-: android uses that, to specially mark a given socket to use a different routing table
<hexa-> yep, android also provided the per user policy routing functionality to the kernel
<hexa-> there are a few options to get a 0/0 vpn done
<clever> my only problem, is that the android vpn api requires 1 uplink socket
<hexa-> need to match the raw traffic by the vpn daemon somehow
<clever> and p2p based stuff doesnt fit in
<hexa-> fwmark, pid, etc.
<DigitalKiwi> how come i can ssh to my computer that is connected to a vpn from my local network from another computer but not through my router
<DigitalKiwi> i can connect to other computers from the router
<DigitalKiwi> like i have port forwarding
<DigitalKiwi> so i have to ssh to one that works that does not use a vpn and then ssh to the other one
<DigitalKiwi> am bad at network :(
<DigitalKiwi> i can ssh from my router to that computer too lol
<DigitalKiwi> what
<DigitalKiwi> now it works
<DigitalKiwi> at least from this computer
<DigitalKiwi> does anyone know gpg-agent well i have problems
<DigitalKiwi> how it looks is newer nixos-unstable than the other one which is nixos-unstable but updated not as recently
<DigitalKiwi> 20.09.git.8520ec69c60 (Nightingale)
<DigitalKiwi> 20.09.git.849e944beca (Nightingale)
<DigitalKiwi> bad first
<NinjaTrappeur> DigitalKiwi: use MTR to see where it's blocking.
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<DigitalKiwi> this is not the first time the gpg-agent did that either iirc
<NinjaTrappeur> oh
<NinjaTrappeur> scratch that, just read your last msgs
<bqv> Shados: wow, that's hilarious.
<bqv> I wonder who's doing it then
<bqv> Who has such beef with the australian govt
<DigitalKiwi> NinjaTrappeur: i'll try it next time if i can
<DigitalKiwi> it was from a different computer using kitty on windows so that's a possible cause
<bqv> Australians, I guess…
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<eyJhb> Ahh. the most messy code ever. But it is the start of a beautiful nsjail module!
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<bqv> how is it 2020 and printers are still mysterious magical creatures that do not succumb to any attempt to understand them
<bqv> i think at this point i just own a lump of plastic
<bqv> with builtin wifi
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<ar> bqv: over the past few years, i've had decent luck with kyocera and dymo printers
<joepie91> I have pretty frequently heard people name Brother as a relatively disaster-free brand (at the cost of a higher purchase price)
<__monty__> Wait, aren't those label printers?
<joepie91> I mean, who says you can't have non-sticky A4-sized labels...
<joepie91> :P
<bqv> they look so expensive...
<bqv> i'm not gonna drop a hundred on something i'm convinced will screw me over within a week
<joepie91> bqv: do you live in a country with a legally-mandated return period? for online purchases
<ar> __monty__: dymo, yes. but they work well with cups
<hexa-> I've looked into the packaging of brother drivers in nixpkgs
<hexa-> I've got one MFC9460N on my todo list and I'm pretty sad about that
<hexa-> *CDN
<ar> cups-kyocera and cups-dymo work with the printers i have
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<samueldr> I have had some success with a brother printer that has networking functionality
<samueldr> though it works best when it's autodetected (how?) via avahi
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<bqv> joepie91: certainly, but returning stuff is "effort"
<bqv> It's always mechanical faults with my printers anyway
<bqv> Software is lush
<joepie91> samueldr: network autodetection is basically black magic
<joepie91> there are so many specs for it that there's probably a spec on how to auto-detect the correct auto-detection spec
<samueldr> joepie91: yeah lol
<samueldr> I just know that I printed on a nixos system where I hadn't setup the driver, and it went easier than on one where I setup the driver
<joepie91> lol
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<eyJhb> The disk space for ARK has increased so much, that their requirements are no longer valid - https://store.steampowered.com/app/346110/ARK_Survival_Evolved/
<eyJhb> It currently is around 110 GB for the base
<makefu> it is madness how much storage modern games (or even games from 8 years ago) take
<samueldr> not compressing stuff so it gets "there" quicker is a part of the reason
<samueldr> and duplication so it's not "fetched", too
<makefu> normally it should be both faster for transferring and loading when it is compressed because decompression normally is fast and cpus are great at it
<eyJhb> We couldn't install it on a 250 GB SSD because... Windows 10 + Ark I guess
<samueldr> the main reason AFAIK is that engines are optimized for console use, where they'll load it during the gameplay, so no leeway to uncompress in the background
<energizer> can i (nixos) make static binaries for macos?
<eyJhb> Cross compile?
<eyJhb> I would assume it depends on what software
<energizer> i want a single program like nix-bundle makes, but targeting the mac
<bqv> that looks awesome
<bqv> starred
<bqv> not sure what i'd use it for since all my systems are nixos
<bqv> but i like it nonetheless
<drakonis1> dear lord, ark.
<drakonis1> final fantasy 15 on pc required 150gb of storage
<drakonis1> turns out the image quality is scaling faster than storage
<bqv> that's unacceptable
<bqv> this is why i don't play any higher than FF10
<drakonis1> wow wants 70gb
<drakonis1> and that's just up to battle for azeroth
<drakonis1> it doesn't include shadowlands yet
<drakonis1> it also wants a 960 gtx with 4gb vram as for recommended specs
<eyJhb> This is why I don't play.
<drakonis1> and a i7 4770
<drakonis1> this is hardware from when i bought my pc
<drakonis1> play indies!
<drakonis1> they dont want heavy hitter hardware
<drakonis1> lol
<drakonis1> shadowlands wants 100g
<drakonis1> gb
<bqv> indie and retro games
<drakonis1> and a 1080
<bqv> they don't have all the unnecessary flashy nonsense that wastes a full harddrive
<drakonis1> it wants an ssd too
<drakonis1> those specs are too HIGH
<drakonis1> oh yeah, before i forget
<drakonis1> the new console generation is coming this year, so all of the specs will rise to top end hardware
<drakonis1> the minimum is hardware equivalent to the best hardware this year
<drakonis1> gaming is pretty expensive
<drakonis1> what did they do with wow's graphics that it wants a 1080
<drakonis1> i wish i could play hollow knight silksong
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<cole-h> Why can't you?
<drakonis> its not out yet
<cole-h> o
<cole-h> Yeah, that'll do it
<cole-h> :D
<drakonis> this music is so good
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<hoverbear> Heck yeah!
<cole-h> 🎉
<bqv> that's a hell of a PS1, hoverbear
<hoverbear> bqv You can get it from `starship.enable` on home-manager:)
<bqv> i didn't say i wanted it :p
<bqv> way too noisy imo
<bqv> but impressive still
<hoverbear> Lol it is but most of it goes away when I'm not in this repo
<drakonis> starship?
<hoverbear> bqv If I'd had to configure it at all to be like that, I'd have never done it, but it just worked out of the box like that and it's fast so I don't mind?
<cole-h> I'd use starship... if they could sort out the git performance issues.
<cole-h> I tried it back on Arch and when I would cd into nixpkgs, I would have to wait for many seconds lol
<hoverbear> Oh yeah I could see that
<cole-h> and most of my development these days takes place in nixpkgs... :P
<bqv> yeah fair enough
<hoverbear> :)
<hoverbear> Thanks for your hard work
<cole-h> Thanks for the thanks :D
<cole-h> (But I wouldn't say it was hard work... :P)
<hoverbear> I think dealing with the nix language is a lot of work. xD
<hoverbear> Hard... hmmm... not so hard.
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<rycee> cole-h: The git handling can be improved a bit with `programs.starship.settings.git_status.disabled = true;`
<cole-h> The problem is, I still want to see the branch
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<hoverbear> Exploring musl support...
<lovesegfault> Just unjammed my wife's sewing machine
<lovesegfault> Feeling real good
<lovesegfault> Those machines are nuts
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<hoverbear> Lovely!
<cole-h> hoverbear: btw, just looked at that image -- I don't think you want `crossSystem` to default to the current system (or else you'll always trigger the `crossSystem = { config = crossSystem; };` branch)
<hoverbear> cole-h: Thanks! I figured that out too! I ended up adding an `if`
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<gchristensen> lovesegfault: those things are so complicated. amazing.
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<cole-h> ...why are GH issues/PRs so wide now, even though I didn't opt in to any of the preview things............
<joepie91> you probably landed on the Bad side of an A/B test
<samueldr> right, the a or b side
<cole-h> First they make my notifications wide
<cole-h> Now they make my issues wide
<joepie91> next, they'll make the code wide!
<cole-h> OK now it's not wide
<cole-h> wtf
<cole-h> Just gotta complain on IRC and they revert the changes I guess
<cole-h> :P
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<joepie91> lol
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<bqv> cole-h: oh my god
<bqv> cole-h: the artemis fowl movie
<bqv> It hurts
<bqv> I'm so dissapointed
<bqv> Its not even worthy to laugh at
<cole-h> :'(
<bqv> Its just disappointing
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<Shados> bqv: on the "who is doing it front" a mate of mine was comparing payloads to databases of previous attacks etc., it looks likely to be the same criminal orgs behind some recent ransomware attacks on Aus corps (specifically the Toll and Lion ones)
<bqv> Ah ok
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<joepie91> unsure if typos by software author, or something is seriously fucked