gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<ohhaimark[m]> Anybody running NixOS on an HP Spectre x360?
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<ldlework> my little unit test tool is coming along nicely
<DigitalKiwi> does anyone know what's that small laptops manufacturer they have ones with joysticks, ones with serial ports etc. i think it's 3 letters
<DigitalKiwi> and at least 1 that's silver
<DigitalKiwi> and of the 3 letters i think at least one of them is a p and or g
<DigitalKiwi> look if i could be less vague i'd know what i'm looking for! >.>
<DigitalKiwi> and possibly an o
<DigitalKiwi> i don't see it on that list ;_;
<DigitalKiwi> GPD
<DigitalKiwi> why is my brain like this
<DigitalKiwi> joystick, com port, "silver"
<DigitalKiwi> a D is just a flat O
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<ashkitten> does anyone know someone working on accessibility stuff for linux that i could give money to support
<ashkitten> stuff like screenreader support in applications, etc
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<pie_> ashkitten: i think https://discourse.nixos.org/u/toraritte works for someone like that, not sure tho
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<eyJhb> I don't want to do propability and statistics again :( Not a fun exam
<adisbladis> Ugh
<adisbladis> The Nix regex implementation haunts me
<eyJhb> adisbladis: regex in general should haunt most
<eyJhb> eval(`[abcdef]+`)
<eyJhb> :D
<infinisil> eyJhb: I really like https://hackage.haskell.org/package/regex-applicative, which is a regex implementation, but without any nasty strings
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<__monty__> infinisil: Looks like it doesn't work on Text?
<infinisil> __monty__: Yeah, I guess you'll have to unpack it first
<infinisil> I guess it could probably be changed to use mono-traversable instead
<__monty__> That's quite disappointing. Though I guess there's not much reason to choose it over parser combinators anyway.
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<sphalerite> gchristensen++ (a bit late but hey) for the well-distributed announcement of the hydra migration thing
<{^_^}> gchristensen's karma got increased to 309
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<gchristensen> oh cool, thanks sphalerite!
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* colemickens sees a week of uptime. seems suspicious
<eyJhb> colemickens: Had a year on my server
<eyJhb> ssh server *forget* sudo shutdown -h 0
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<ldlework> Is there no way to capture what error occurred with tryEval or anything else?
<ldlework> err wrong channel
<pie_> ldlework: afaik tryeval is frustratingly useless
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<infinisil> Well that was stupid, I just spent a whole lot of time debugging why the deluge client couldn't connect to the daemon
<infinisil> Turns out the versions were mismatched
<cole-h> ...lol
<pie_> infinisil: i think i did that with JACK and pulseaudio and i still dont know how it works
<pie_> or doesnt
<gchristensen> tfw a PR for a thing gets approved and merged but you really thought there were significant problems with the PR
<gchristensen> (and also you were the author of the PR)
<eyJhb> gchristensen: more C code?
<eyJhb> ;)
<{^_^}> swaywm/sway#5430 (by grahamc, 1 day ago, open): swaynag: allow specifying more buttons which execute and dismiss
<__monty__> gchristensen: You can mark github PRs as drafts.
<gchristensen> I didn't intend on changing it
<gchristensen> but the names of the options suck, and --button-dismiss confusingly conflicts with --dismiss-button
<__monty__> It'd be a signal to people that's it's not to be merged though.
<gchristensen> if they'll take it as-is, I'll let them
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<infinisil> :o
<infinisil> Neat
<ldlework> I now got a global binding to drop me right into the search
<sphalerite> ldlework: demo for https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/64 ?
<{^_^}> rfcs#64 (by Infinisil, 22 weeks ago, closed): [RFC 0064] New Documentation Format for nixpkgs and NixOS
<ldlework> I just ran some regex over a copy paste off the website to format it into org-mode
<ldlework> lol
<ldlework> Doesn't look like org-mode is much of a contender on that issue
<ldlework> Even though it is clearly the superlative markup :P
<gchristensen> docbook is the one true format
<ldlework> i can't do any of the things i can do with docbook with org-mode :(
<gchristensen> with enough lisp you can do anything you want!
<ldlework> err
<ldlework> I meant the opposite of what I said
<ldlework> lol
<gchristensen> (where the lisp here is in two places. emacs lisp, and XSLT lisp)
<ldlework> With docbook, I have to first compile to see the result
<ldlework> with org-mode the files themselves are the result
<gchristensen> you're just not using enough lisp
<ldlework> hehe
<ldlework> Man I can imagine high-quality org-mode docs for nix
<ldlework> It would be so good, at least for emacs users :P
<ldlework> Be able to just run any example in the docs by hitting C-c C-c
<ldlework> Be able to aggregate and define my own views into the document
<ldlework> By able to directly link into those documents from my own note documents
<ldlework> Somewhere in the multiverse
<energizer> glad to see the outcome of that rfc
<ldlework> closed because no expected progress?
<energizer> basically arrived at a decision of ReST
<ldlework> oh ok
<energizer> to be formalized in another rfc
<ldlework> you like rst?
<energizer> i think it's the best choice for the nix community
<ldlework> i can never get used to it, i always have to keep the docs open
<energizer> rst syntax isn't ideal, and the docutils codebase is old, incompletely documented, and maintained on sourceforge
<energizer> but i consider sphinx (python) and asciidoc (ruby) the best competitors in this race and nix's community has more pythonistas than rubypeople
* joepie91 still feels that MDX would be a good choice
<joepie91> really have to get around to rolling a proof of concept
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<abathur> pollen might be great
<abathur> but someone would have to descend from the mountaintop with tablets
<abathur> also, if you can see the result without building the format probably isn't good enough
<abathur> :(
<joepie91> abathur: ?
<abathur> "With docbook, I have to first compile to see the result" "with org-mode the files themselves are the result"
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<energizer> ldlework: how do i install that?
<ldlework> nix-env -i emacs
<energizer> ,-i
<energizer> i have emacs, now what
<ldlework> energizer: at its base, I'm using https://github.com/abo-abo/hydra
<ldlework> Which lets me create those little pop up menus
<ldlework> Then I'm simply using helm-org-in-buffer-headings on the nixpkgs.org file I made from converting the HTML of the official docs.
<ldlework> http://ldlework.com/nixpkgs.org here's the org file
<energizer> thanks
<ldlework> do you think it should be a package?
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<energizer> probably easier to just wait until the sphinx version is published and it'll be easy to incorporate into one of those systems like dash-docs
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