gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<lovesegfault> I'm losing my mind in this quarantine
<ldlework> why?
<lovesegfault> I can't go out to smoke my pipe
<lovesegfault> I can't go to the gym
<lovesegfault> I can't go anywhere
<lovesegfault> I hate wfh, I have rsi already
<gchristensen> colemickens: "[outages] KNOWN OUTAGE: Facebook/spam flagging"
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<cole-h> I was wondering why my sway unit was suddenly failing to start. I had put `unset LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH` in my `extraSessionCommands` x)
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<gchristensen> hm I am surprised -- I thought there was a way for a network to indicate a specific DNSoHTTPS server should be used, but it seems firefox just has a canary domain for disabling it altogether
<cole-h> Isn't DoT >>> DoH?
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<cole-h> Amazon says they're stopping movement of stuff into their warehouses... I hope my Animal Crossing copy was already in the closest warehouse >->
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<eyJhb> Not to be rude, but could malSet get a tmp ban?
<tilpner> gchristensen: Supposedly only for the automatically enabled DoH, it should ignore the canary domain for manually configured DoH
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<eyJhb> Christ the shell has a lot of dependencies I guess etu
<eyJhb> THis makes no sense..
<etu> eyJhb: what shell?
<eyJhb> qmk_firmware
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<eyJhb> Ready to slow down my typiing waaay much
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<etu> eyJhb: ah
<etu> eyJhb: yeah, it depends on things that aren't cached
<__monty__> Shouldn't take too long though, as long as you go 100%.
<eyJhb> well, this is going to take some time
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<eyJhb> currently i am going 100%, but this takes forever. Seeing as my WPM, is the time it has taken me to write this, is around 4 minutes
<eyJhb> whooo
<eyJhb> time to fire up vim!
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<__monty__> eyJhb: Run through a typing tutor.
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<eyJhb> __monty__: any good ones available
<eyJhb> I have no questionmark....
<eyJhb> damn it!
<__monty__> This is popular but minimal: https://learn.dvorak.nl
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<__monty__> I liked klavaro I think it was.
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<__monty__> Yeah you had it on a layer.
<__monty__> You seem to have too many and too few keys at the same time : >
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<eyJhb> I need slash as well...
<eyJhb> :(
<eyJhb> and better access to ()...
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<eyJhb> well, using it is a good way to learn
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<eyJhb> the joys ^^
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<gchristensen> tilpner: yeah, but I don't want to reconfigure my devices manually :/
<tilpner> You can use enterprise policies!
<tilpner> Warning: WIP
<tilpner> And I haven't figured out how to apply them to Fennec on Android yet
<gchristensen> whoa
<gchristensen> okay, that is really cool, but I was more thinking a DHCP-like way :P
<gchristensen> where I don't have to touch the device at all
<tilpner> "To improve the loading speed, Firefox will open predictive connections to sites when the user hovers their mouse over thumbnails on the New Tab Page or the user starts to search in the Search Bar, or in the search field on the Home or the New Tab Page."
<__monty__> tilpner: Consider it "cover traffic." : >
<gchristensen> that seems fairly fine ....
<tilpner> It surprised me, but yes, it's no "oh no, we need to stop using firefox"
<gchristensen> tilpner: I'm surprised you turn off safe browsing
<tilpner> sigh
<tilpner> Yes, it's a weird one. That's why they're all configurable
<gchristensen> why do you do that? :)
<qyliss> Doesn't safe browsing send every domain to Google?
<tilpner> One externally given requirement is that FF makes absolutely no connections in idle mode
<qyliss> Or am I thinking of something else?
<tilpner> And AFAIK Safebrowsing needs to update lists from somewhere else
<tilpner> And then there's the part, where FF may send hashes to Google on downloading? Haven't looked into that
<tilpner> But yes, it's a security-privacy tradeoff that I would not make usually
<__monty__> Definitely has privacy implications.
<gchristensen> qyliss: safebrowsing, at least one version, is a list of hashes you download and compare entirely locally
<gchristensen> I think there is another version where you hash the domain and chop off half the bits, and submit that
<gchristensen> tilpner: gotcha
<tilpner> And downloading that list periodically, or on startup, is not acceptable here
<qyliss> The former sounds fine to me, but not the latter.
<gchristensen> yeah, not great
<qyliss> Correlation is scary, even with partial hashes.
<tilpner> I've been considering going through about:config and setting *.url to empty strings
<gchristensen> may be better to set them to stringsy ou don't control
<gchristensen> settings.get("my.url", "https://fallback")
<tilpner> And then it does DNS lookups for fallback all the time?
<infinisil> Local host can be used
<gchristensen> well maybe it does a "use fall back if value is empty" thing
<gchristensen> setting it to a domain you set explicitly, and then drop in the hosts file though ... :)
<tilpner> I would verify it, of course
<infinisil> With a different uid for every .url :)
<gchristensen> qyliss: in the "half the bits" one, it seems to only send the half-hash if the URL is found to likely be unsafe
<qyliss> How does it determine that?
<gchristensen> I'm not sure, and I'm going to make breakfast -- https://developers.google.com/safe-browsing/v4 -- I implemented a client once lke 10yrs ago and it doesn't seem to have changed so significantly
<eyJhb> __monty__: now I just need ()
<__monty__> eyJhb: Consider going cold turkey on all the emoticons : P
<eyJhb> I actually had a key mapped on my old keyboard so that I could send hearts :p
<__monty__> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<__monty__> ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) I apologize for my outburt.
<eyJhb> Basically upper right corner was <, so I could do <3 :p
<gchristensen> 🥶 🦃?
<eyJhb> Slowly improving!
<__monty__> ❄🦃 more like
<__monty__> eyJhb: <3 is pretty easy to type on dvorak too.
<eyJhb> I now remember why I had alt mapped... (for clipboard)
<eyJhb> Yeah, much easier!
<eyJhb> also, currently no compose key
<gchristensen> woooo thaks srk!
<arianvp> I recall someone mentioning SpaceX uses nix somewhere
<gchristensen> really? :)
<arianvp> maybe im confusing with another space agency
<gchristensen> ESA
<gchristensen> ?
<arianvp> yeh maybe it was ESA
<gchristensen> if anyone knows anything about spacex using Nix, do speak up now :P
<arianvp> talking about tech is under IFTAR I think
<arianvp> so wont expect anyone to speak up on IRC. only in some official communication :P
<arianvp> or how is this stupid law called i keep forgetting the name
<gchristensen> ITAR :)
<arianvp> ^ that
<gchristensen> Nix does contain code which was once restricted by ITAR ...
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<arianvp> which part?
<arianvp> the garbage collector?
<tilpner> No, Nix links the boehm gc, but doesn't vendor it
<tilpner> Unless you meant the store GC
<gchristensen> well I was thinking anything that resembles cryptography, like hashing etc.
<tilpner> error[E0107]: wrong number of type arguments: expected 2, found 0 at gen_bindings.rs:94060:893801
<tilpner> This sounds like fun
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<etu> eyJhb: tbh, most of my guests type dvorak
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<LnL> wait, you can binaries for another architecture without a vm using qemu-*!?
<tilpner> LnL: See boot.binfmt.emulatedSystems
<tilpner> (Though last I checked, clevers version was better but slightly more effort)
<LnL> I don't really understand that, but it really neat :D
<LnL> I wonder if nix could use that for builds
<tilpner> It does
<LnL> huh?
<tilpner> The systems you set there, are automatically added as buildable platforms for nix
<LnL> hold on...
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<tilpner> Can I stop holding on now?
<LnL> hm, do I need something else aswell?
<tilpner> No, does it not work?
<LnL> Exec format error
<tilpner> Doing what?
<tilpner> (You may need to reboot, binfmt_misc seems a little tricky sometimes)
<LnL> so it setup everything within nix properly but the build isn't running in qemu for some reason
<tilpner> Which build?
<LnL> just a test mkDerviation
<tilpner> I need more information than that
* tilpner can't debug "doesn't work" with "I did everything properly and then tested it"
<LnL> reboot fixed it
<tilpner> Ah, good
<LnL> this is _amazing_!
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<eyJhb> etu: sounds like a swedish thing :l
<eyJhb> p*
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<etu> eyJhb: Haha no
<cole-h> Anybody happen to know how you would stop a specific systemd target after a specific service exits?
<gchristensen> like a service goes to Stopped, you want the target to Stop too?
<cole-h> Yeah
<cole-h> Unless targets are supposed to be kinda "oneshot" in that if it succeeds once, it's up forever
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<gchristensen> I think you want like BindsTo?
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<cole-h> I'll try that, thanks. gchristensen++
<{^_^}> gchristensen's karma got increased to 234
<gchristensen> oh neat
<tilpner> > ncspot.meta.description
<{^_^}> "Cross-platform ncurses Spotify client written in Rust, inspired by ncmpc and the likes"
<gchristensen> ohh neat
<cole-h> gchristensen++ That worked, thanks!
<{^_^}> gchristensen's karma got increased to 235
<gchristensen> woot!
<cole-h> Although I misunderstood at first -- I needed to set `BindsTo = service` in the target, not `BindsTo = target` in the service
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<cole-h> Though I guess I could do `BoundBy`
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<gchristensen> some of those are not readable
<gchristensen> some of those are not writable*
<gchristensen> like some of them are not things you can set, and are instead just things that can be read
<cole-h> Yep, just ran into that x)
<cole-h> `target.BindsTo = service` it is!
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<eyJhb> Is it posible to override the compose key, so that oe produces ø?
<eyJhb> Instead of having /o?
<__monty__> eyJhb: Yep, pretty easy even.
<__monty__> I think the file you want to customize is ~/.Xcompose
<__monty__> Googling that should point the way.
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<samueldr> is it me, or is reducing hours for grocery stores counter-intuitive in social distancing?
<cole-h> Let's just buy hazmat suits for all grocery store employees
<samueldr> I'm thinking about the big issue that you compress the same amount of customers, in a smaller time-space
<hexa-> zimbatm: pretty sure many people would contribute gpu resources, but that seems to be impossible on amdgpu rn, no?
<ldlework> i've been thinking it would be funny if i replaced nix-env -i with a command that does some nix code generation and makes some new configuration in my nixos config :D
<__monty__> samueldr: You're assuming people naturally spread their shopping times.
<__monty__> Usually there's only a couple very busy hours, like close to closing for example.
<samueldr> __monty__: no I'm not
<samueldr> I egoistically know there's a less busy moment I can go to
<samueldr> from even before the whole thing
<samueldr> that's the moment they're cutting :/
<__monty__> Then you *know* there's probably plenty of capacity even with a narrower window.
<samueldr> what I *know* is that this is counter to social distancing
<samueldr> it's less busy, not zero
<samueldr> that will inevitably bring people closer in space and time
<__monty__> Maybe it's to give the stores a better change at restocking to avoid people hoarding?
<__monty__> *chance
<samueldr> I don't know
<samueldr> the main message the government is sending is to increase distancing, socially speaking, so that's antithetical to the main message
<eyJhb> samueldr: in DK we have increased shopping houro
<eyJhb> hours
<__monty__> We have same hours but a limit on the amount of people allowed in at any one time.
<eyJhb> my local store has increased from 21 to 24
<samueldr> btw it's store chains that enacted this, not something asked by the government
<eyJhb> we have no hard limit for now, at least not enforced
<__monty__> samueldr: People in stores are pulling double duty. A forced break from it all/time to catch up doesn't sound ill-advised to me.
<eyJhb> off to stealing more of etu configs
<__monty__> And if the hours they're closing were pretty calm already then the effect on social-distancing isn't huge.
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