gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<cole-h> samueldr: I got my second Netflix email :(
<samueldr> I e-mailed at the privacy address for account deletion
<samueldr> they told me it happens "when someone tries to login with an e-mail close to mine"
<samueldr> (doubtful)
<samueldr> doubtful considering the domain name has one unique user
<samueldr> so it must be credential stuffing
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<gchristensen> first 4 minutes are amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQdaJr_kMs
<cole-h> samueldr: Did they agree to delete the account?
<samueldr> yes
<cole-h> Sweet, guess I'll do that too then
<joepie91> samueldr: you also getting spammed with "start your free trial now" nonsense?
<samueldr> not a high volume of spam, but received some without ever having had business with them
<samueldr> also
<samueldr> >> SRC: 13387_en_AR
<joepie91> I've been getting them for months
<samueldr> this makes me think the credential stuffin has started in argentina
<cole-h> My first one was
<cole-h> >> SRC: 13387_en_PK
<cole-h> lol
<samueldr> joepie91: I think that you had one original message from a "bad login", and then they decide to continuously "engage" with their "existing relationship"
<samueldr> right
<samueldr> sounds like random proxies/vpns
<cole-h> gchristensen++ Nice sound.
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<joepie91> samueldr: no 'bad login' mails, but one of the spam mails mentions "BRL" (brazil?) as currency
<samueldr> "bad login" meaning that the account was created from trying to login
<samueldr> it's a low friction registration
<samueldr> create account on first try to login
<samueldr> joepie91: that "SRC" bit was at the end of the e-mail
<samueldr> this tells me that "SRC" thing is like a SKU for their e-mail templates
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<joepie91> samueldr: oooooooo that reads like a GDPR violation
<samueldr> I think it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
<samueldr> "I" didn't create the account
<samueldr> so they can't give the information from someone else to me!
<samueldr> or something along the line
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<joepie91> samueldr: yeah but they shouldn't be processing your e-mail like this at all
<joepie91> this is actually probably a CAN-SPAM violation too
<joepie91> no double opt-in and all that, I think that;'s required
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<samueldr> that is more likely... except
<samueldr> the account is not canadian!
<samueldr> it's likely argentinian!
<samueldr> they didn't know (and still don't?) that I'm not in that locale
<joepie91> samueldr: CAN-SPAM is US, not Canada, no?
<samueldr> oops
<samueldr> casl
<samueldr> I had that in mind
<joepie91> samueldr: either way, afaik CAN-SPAM works like the GDPR in the sense that it applies to any dealings with US residents, and it is your responsibility to figure that out?
<joepie91> or am I misremembering?
<samueldr> I don't know about the US law
<samueldr> and I don't follow your train of thoughts
<samueldr> (not saying it's not right, I just don't follow)
<samueldr> for them, as far as they can (badly) tell, it's an argentinian account
<joepie91> samueldr: for comparison, under the GDPR, it doesn't matter in principle that the form was filled in from Argentina, they'd still be liable if the actual data entered were to belong to an EU user
<joepie91> of course there's a lot of wiggling room in the GDPR for "couldn't reasonably have"
<samueldr> here the data is likely limited to e-mail address + password hash
<joepie91> but I don't think you'd get very far with "yeah no, it was too much work to just always ask for double opt-in before sending marketing e-mails"
<samueldr> true that, here in Canada, too, it's pretty cut and clear that it's opt-in
<joepie91> it's still personal data
* samueldr thinks
<samueldr> GDPR applies to anyone that *is* (verb: to be) in Europe, right?
<samueldr> >> Your company is service provider based outside the EU. It provides services to customers outside the EU. Its clients can use its services when they travel to other countries, including within the EU. Provided your company doesn't specifically target its services at individuals in the EU, it is not subject to the rules of the GDPR.
<samueldr> ah, then the point is moot
<samueldr> I was thinking, next time I set foot in Europe, to do a GDPR thing at equifax, but it looks like that doesn't apply
<samueldr> though that still is... vague~ish
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* colemickens when you're watching the merge commit on github and refreshing every few hours to see what branches its made it to...
<samueldr> ah, I see, watching the pot to make sure it never boils
<colemickens> it is funny how it feels like that, or how often I do things like this, finally leave and come back and discover I've come back *right* as its finishing.
<colemickens> I'd forgotten about kube-nix for 6 months, then looked at it one day 12 minutes after offlinehacker had merged a 9-month-ish long outstanding rewrite PR. Blew my mind for a second.
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nvd is now known as Taneb
<Taneb> Trying to help out with fixing Haskell packages after updating to Stackage LTS 15: good idea
<Taneb> Building accelerate on my less-than-beefy laptop: bad idea
<Taneb> I'm getting a rather warm lap
<Taneb> (accelerate is a large Haskell library for highly-parallel (GPU accelerated) computation)
<MichaelRaskin> vitic: hi!
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<infinisil> Youtube ads on mobile can now be 10 seconds :/
<infinisil> Unskippable
<infinisil> This previously was limited to 5 seconds. Add to that the fact that there can be multiple ads now. And add to that that youtube additionally displays its own adds every so often for premium
<infinisil> Even though I clicked "No thanks" for the 100th time
<aanderse> infinisil: i wonder at what point youtube is going to hit my tolerance window and I'll just stop using it
<infinisil> On pc at least i have adblock sp i don't need to see any of this
<infinisil> Well not true actually. Since now many youtubers have 1 minute sponsored sections too..
<infinisil> Call me a bad person for skipping those as fast as i can, but I just don't have a need for Honey/Audible/NordVPN/whatever
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<__monty__> I only use mobile youtube if I'm stuck doing something and need a howto.
<__monty__> Thankfully those youtubers are usually just passionate so they don't have ad segments.
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<infinisil> I can't wait for google to succumb
<__monty__> To what?
<infinisil> No idea unfortunately!
<MichaelRaskin> By now I am OK with them succumbing to regulation
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<__monty__> MichaelRaskin: Regulation in the US?
<MichaelRaskin> Who cares about US. I mean, I guess antitrust comission applying all the laws they have at disposal could also take down Google, but making business with Google illegal in EU would be a good start
<hexa-> infinisil: newpipe app from fdroid
* infinisil has an iphone
<infinisil> But yeah there probably is a better youtube app there too
<infinisil> Or once I finally get https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/67664 working I could use that :D
<{^_^}> #67664 (by Infinisil, 26 weeks ago, open): Invidious: init
<hexa-> Oh sweet
<infinisil> There's currently some problems with one part of it needing libcrypto from openssl for one part and libcrypto from boringssl for another
<yegortimoshenko> worldofpeace++
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<worldofpeace> yegortimoshenko: 💖 that PR was pretty nice
<yegortimoshenko> it was! it was emily's ^^ emily++
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<worldofpeace> emily++
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<eyJhb> ,locate bin strings
<{^_^}> Found in packages: toybox, busybox, binutils-unwrapped, llvmPackages.bintools
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<srk> samueldr: netsurf builds and works on armv7
<srk> samueldr: input is a bit cranky, can't clipboard from terminal but not bad otherwise
<evanjs> Still surprised that nixpkgs.cachix.org wasn’t reserved 😅 wonder if I’ve confused anybody trying to setup cachix before lol
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<cole-h> __monty__++ Thanks for the idea in #hm yesterday -- that's what I ended up doing
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<__monty__> cole-h: Oh, great. Sorry to help-and-run like that : )
<cole-h> It made me sad I couldn't thank you until just now, but no worries :)
<__monty__> I'd already quit my client when I realized you might have further questions >.<
<cole-h> Nope, that was exactly what I needed :D
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<pie_[bnc]> this veers strongly into nix territory when things start going right http://www.pgbovine.net/PhD-memoir/pguo-PhD-grind.pdf
<pie_[bnc]> ~2011 era work
<__monty__> What do you mean nix territory?
<pie_[bnc]> managing dependencies i guess
<pie_[bnc]> im not sure about the details since its mostly a "how i got through my phd" story
<pie_[bnc]> ok it might be more fair to say its a bit-ahead-of-its-time thing with the whole data science and reproducible research wave
<pie_[bnc]> (or maybe the latter happened with support from when this stuf fwas more obscure, idk)
<pie_[bnc]> anyway i got as far as mentioning it here because i think i had a chat with nh2 at nixcon about some ideas (not me) people had about doing syscall redrection stuff, and if someone did a lot of work on it, which this guy seems to have with making CDE basically production, its probably worth looking into
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<colemickens> anyone working on anything cool or interesting today?
<samueldr> no, it's sunday, the sun's definitely hot, not cool. QED
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<cole-h> I'm trying to extend the fish module in home-manager to allow the flags from the manpage
<cole-h> *allow the flags from the `function` manpage
<evanjs> Anybody have any luck adding nix syntax highlighting to Textastic (iOS) via https://github.com/wmertens/sublime-nix per https://www.textasticapp.com/v9/manual/customization/custom_syntax_themes_templates.html? Or any other nix package from sublime or textmate bundles
<evanjs> I just want nix syntax highlighting in a mobile editor 😝
<tilpner> That's the syntax I use for my pastebin
<tilpner> But there seem to be multiple versions of sublime syntax, and you might need the other one
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<evanjs> tilpner: okay wow I am tired this morning. Found the problem... it was how I downloaded the files (via shortcut?) — they all had `txt` extensions 😅
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<viric> hm how to get a gcc that can do static binaries?
<viric> pkgsStatic.mkShell ...
<viric> might work. Time to build a new compiler.
<__monty__> viric: I faintly recall some muslPackages or somthing.
<viric> pkgsStatic it is, I guess
<samueldr> pkgsStatic ends up building with musl libc
<viric> fine
<viric> I don't care
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