gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<gchristensen> libfido2 has CLI utilities for doing CLI FIDO2 things, and they're really easy to use :o
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<gchristensen> in case you ever wanted to do FIDO2 things over the CLI, Imade a little bash lib :) https://gsc.io/content-addressed/c6f648dbb1324b3b4104811283dac2c3188adf411d10e9704ee08d9312c22962.sh
<lovesegfault> cole-h: o/
<lovesegfault> thanks for the review
<lovesegfault> I addressed your comment
<cole-h> lovesegfault: PR title is still old ;^)
<lovesegfault> cole-h: done-zo
<cole-h> lovesegfault: man I really hate that Ctrl+Enter sends stuff on GH
<lovesegfault> me too
<cole-h> Accidentally hold Ctrl too long? Send incomplete comments/reviews/whatever. Very cool GitHub
<cole-h> Don't personally have a use for it, but LGTM :) Get more of those dirty hacks into your config!
<lovesegfault> Does anyone here have clarity on how the staging process works?
<lovesegfault> I feel like every time staging is merged stuff explodes
<cole-h> tfw you have more unreads in -dev than #nixos
<jtojnar> I love ctrl-enter for sending
* cole-h slaps jtojnar
<cole-h> Snap out of it!
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<jtojnar> it is great for short messages
<cole-h> But not reviews on GH
<cole-h> andi-: I'm watching Root KSK Ceremony 37 per your recommendation. I didn't know this was a thing
<lovesegfault> do systemd user units run as my user?
* lovesegfault goes look
<lovesegfault> yes
<cole-h> 🤔
<cole-h> What would be the point if a user unit didn't run as a user? :P
<lovesegfault> cole-h: they could run unprivileged as nobody or smth
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<colemickens> lol thunderbird, can't even get through a single reply without a crash
<colemickens> then again, I'd crash if I had to download half a million emails
<colemickens> seems like that's permanent. I wonder if it downloaded a bad email.
<hexa-> gchristensen: vault implies you're also running consul? or is that optional??
<lovesegfault> colemickens: You have to power throuh
<lovesegfault> you keep starting it until it finally downloads them all
<lovesegfault> and it's crucial to not touch anything in thunderbird while it downloads
<lovesegfault> after it's done, then you can use it
<drakonis> dont actually run thunderbird as a email client
<drakonis> geary or evolution instead.
<lovesegfault> evolution is even crashier!
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<drakonis> aw, welp.
<cole-h> Just use aerc2 :P
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<colemickens> The Google Photos upload button pops a form that only has video file types. Gotta love 'em.
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<lovesegfault> colemickens: did you see FF 75 isnow beta?
<colemickens> Yes. Why do you ask?
<lovesegfault> wondering whether the vaapi issues you mentioned having had been fixed between nightly and beta
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<cole-h> Why does cantata have vlc in its arguments list? 🤔
<lovesegfault> cole-h: what was the method to get the first elem of a list again? was it lib.head?
<cole-h> Ye
<cole-h> > lib.head [ "a" "b" "c" ]
<{^_^}> "a"
<lovesegfault> dope
<lovesegfault> > let foo = bar: lib.head (lib.splitString ".bar" foo); bar = "foo.bar"; in foo bar
<{^_^}> cannot coerce a function to a string, at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/strings.nix:369:26
<lovesegfault> > let foo = bar: lib.head (lib.splitString ".bar" foo); bar = "foo.bar"; in (foo bar)
<{^_^}> cannot coerce a function to a string, at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/strings.nix:369:26
<lovesegfault> > let foo = bar: lib.head (lib.splitString ".bar" bar); bar = "foo.bar"; in foo bar
<{^_^}> "foo"
<lovesegfault> > let foo = bar: lib.head (lib.splitString ".bar" bar); bar = "foo.bar"; foobar = { foo = "bar"; }; in foobar.(foo bar)
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting ID or OR_KW or DOLLAR_CURLY or '"', at (string):288:109
<lovesegfault> > let foo = bar: lib.head (lib.splitString ".bar" bar); bar = "foo.bar"; foobar = { foo = "bar"; }; in foobar."${foo bar}"
<{^_^}> "bar"
<cole-h> You know there is `nix repl` right?
<lovesegfault> lol
<cole-h> lol
<lovesegfault> I like this repl here
<lovesegfault> it's like being a twitch streamer
<cole-h> lmao ok
<lovesegfault> cole-h: okay, I think I've further perfected my default.nix
<lovesegfault> but now I just want to write a Nix deployment tool in Rust
<cole-h> Get cracking, then!
<cole-h> If you file tracking issues I'll help out where possible :^)
<lovesegfault> I'm still thinking about how I want it to work
<cole-h> That's always good
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<ldlework> I just successfully used polymode.el to combine org-brain and org-mode so you can edit your org-brain entries directly from org-brain-visualize.
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<eyJhb> *sigh* maybe I should switch to emacs at some point
<etu> eyJhb: :)
<etu> eyJhb: Then you can run exwm ;D
<eyJhb> It is more of a, holy hell nothing in vim is working atm.
<eyJhb> Suddenly vim-go stopped working :(
<eyJhb> I quite like i3-gaps atm :D
<eyJhb> Currently nothing Nix wants to play nicely..
<eyJhb> My server isn't working either
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<eyJhb> etu: DK have surpassed Sweden in confirmed Coronavirus cases now....
<etu> eyJhb: Good job!
<etu> :D
<eyJhb> People are idiots
<eyJhb> Actually had a friend working with handicapped people, who didn't really care if she got coronavirus and would continue going to work if so
<eyJhb> *queue the shitstorm she got*
<ldlework> eyJhb: heh what makes you think you wont have a synonymous experience with emacs?
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<eyJhb> ldlework: hoping for the best I guess :(
<eyJhb> It is awesome
<__monty__> Heh, "Wa Po - Democracy Dies in Darknes," such a nice header for a paywall page...
<clever> eyJhb: lol
<eyJhb> Damn it, Processing3 is broken, again
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<infinisil> Damnit, my youtube recommendations are the worst right now, full of clickbait
<infinisil> Yes i clicked on some of them recently, but I didn't want to sign up for getting them exclusively now
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<infinisil> I really want a feature that lets me set a cap on max views in my recommendations. Only videos with a lower amount than that can be recommended
<manveru> delete it from your history...
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<gchristensen> LnL: it looks like a Vault auth plugin could mount *anywhere*, not just under /auth/ ... is that right?
<gchristensen> omg there are basically no rules!
<etu> woo! party? :D
<gchristensen> ( ._.)
<LnL> no idea, never tried changing the mount point of auth plugins
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<eyJhb> infinisil: what would be the limit?
<eyJhb> My only experience with vault, is in a CTF :| Where is it actually used gchristensen ?
<gchristensen> Vault+
<gchristensen> ?
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<eyJhb> You mentioned Vault Auth Plugin
<eyJhb> Wasn't it somewhat like this - https://github.com/hashicorp/vault-auth-plugin-example
<eyJhb> Anybody up helping me debug some NixOS Python fun?
<infinisil> eyJhb: Configurable
<eyJhb> What would you possibly set it at?
<infinisil> Probably a couple thousand would be a good setting
<infinisil> Maybe 10000, or when I feel adventurous lower
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<cole-h> New GH notifications are too wide for me. Too bad it'll be forced soon.
<infinisil> You can submit feedback for the new ui
<__monty__> cole-h: I lament with you.
<__monty__> infinisil: They aren't actually doing anything with the feedback seemingly.
<__monty__> If they'll consider it at all it'll be after a period of being forced to use the new broken UI.
<infinisil> Just because they didn't do what any single person suggested doesn't mean they don't do anything with the feedback
<__monty__> That's a ridiculous argument.
<__monty__> I didn't say what I said because I feel like they aren't taking *my* feedback.
<infinisil> I see, so why do you believe they don't do anything with the feedback?
<cole-h> Because, from my experiment with it a few weeks ago, it doesn't look like it changed at all lol
<__monty__> Because they're charging ahead with the current design?
<infinisil> That's not conclusive at all
<cole-h> It's been a thing for, what, a month now, give or take? And they're already throwing up warning signs that the old way is disappearing. Makes me sad
<__monty__> I'm not sure what's so surprising about github deciding it has to change, starting to change it with a phased rollout to prevent blatant bugs from ending up in "the product" and then steamrolling ahead with the original plan.
<__monty__> It's not like they're a charitable organisation trying to placate as many people as possible.
<gchristensen> +1
<infinisil> I'm just saying that we shouldn't make wrong conclusions. Yes I also haven't seen any changes at all, but who knows, maybe they have stats that 99% of people who switched to the new UI stayed with it
<infinisil> But we don't know, we have no stats
<__monty__> I think you're just biased in favor of that assumption because you happen to like the changes.
<cole-h> I just sent feedback. Hopefully they take it into account.
<cole-h> Really, I'd be happy if they just let me change the length of the dang box
<joepie91> (retention numbers and other such A/B tests are generally a really bad way to measure user satisfaction, fwiw)
<infinisil> __monty__: Maybe, but similarly you are biased because you don't like them. I'm just pointing out that one needs to be more careful before making conclusions and blaming people
<__monty__> That sounds believable. I try to live with the new reddit layout for example because I know I can't rely on the old one staying available.
<infinisil> Hehe I keep using the old one, can't stand the new one
<cole-h> If it's still uncomfortable upon force-release, I'll dive into their API and make a terminal client for notifications, by gaw
<__monty__> If I actually want to read threads I always end up going to old reddit. But on r/haskell that sucks too because of the terrible css : /
<infinisil> __monty__: There's a setting for turning off CSS for all subreddits, can recommend
<__monty__> I tend to use sites while not logged-in though.
<__monty__> I used to write user stylesheets to style it to my liking, improved over the default even imo. But there's only so much effort one can spend pushing boulders up mountains.
<joepie91> ,locate sane.h
<{^_^}> Found in packages: linux.dev, saneBackends, linux-libre.dev, linux_mptcp.dev, linux_latest.dev, sane-backends-git, linux_mptcp_94.dev, linuxPackages_4_4.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_9.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_14.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_hardened.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_xen_dom0.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_latest-libre.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_latest_xen_dom0.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_testing_bcachefs.kernel.dev, and 1 more
* elvishjerricco feels like the only person who actually likes the new layout.
<cole-h> I dislike the waste of space. The rest is not terrible.
<elvishjerricco> It's got three options for how much space a post takes up, and I choose the middle one. It's about the same size as the old layout
<cole-h> Where?
<cole-h> Oh, at the very bottom under the list of repos
<__monty__> elvishjerricco: The problem is the comments, you can't unfold, you get redirected to a page for just that subthread.
<__monty__> Always lose my place when backtracking out of that.
<elvishjerricco> What do you mean can't unfold?
<__monty__> And the worst part is that can be arbitrarily deep.
<__monty__> "x more comment"
<__monty__> Links like that.
<cole-h> elvishjerricco: Where is that setting to change the size? I may be blind -- can't find it
<elvishjerricco> cole-h: Weird, it used to be near the top left. Not anymore, and I can't find it. That IS bad :P
<cole-h> Phew, good thing. I just sent in feedback requesting that. Would have been awkward if it had actually existed lol
<elvishjerricco> cole-h: Ah, it's under user settings, under feed settings
<elvishjerricco> Annoying, but you only need to do it once
<__monty__> I rarely browse the pages with posts tbh.
<__monty__> I read reddit for the discussions.
<cole-h> lmao I'm an idiot
<__monty__> Visit a very limited set of technology-specific subs.
<elvishjerricco> If you browse anonymously, there's a thing at the top of the feed. Dumb
<cole-h> I was still talking about GitHub, not reddit :D
* cole-h dissipiates
<elvishjerricco> __monty__: There are links to go to a page with deeper comments, but it doesn't expand inline
<elvishjerricco> Not a frequent issue to me, and I also read a lot of comment threads
<elvishjerricco> It does annoy me how many types of links open in new tabs though
<__monty__> The not expanding inline makes me lose where I was every time.
<elvishjerricco> The back button always brings me back where I was perfectly fine
<__monty__> It's also really annoying because it means I have to click a gazillion of those urls rather than just reading.
<elvishjerricco> I don't really end up finding myself reading such deep comment threads very often
<elvishjerricco> And when I do, they're usually off topic and toxic by that point :P
<__monty__> It's as if they regret having a threaded model and want to use negative reinforcement to get people to stop using it.
<__monty__> Only toxic threads I've read were the stack v. cabal threads on r/haskell.
<__monty__> It's not necessarily depth btw. I often come across comment threads that have the "x more comments" urls on every thread.
<__monty__> It gets tiresome before I even start clicking urls.
<elvishjerricco> Maybe I'm overusing the word toxic. But, illogical and unsound arguments being made
<elvishjerricco> Anyway, the new layout is much more pleasing on the eye, has a dark mode, browsing a feed is WAY nicer especially because you can open a comment thread without changing pages, infinite scroll, etc. etc.
<__monty__> You can open a comment thread without changing pages? Then wth are they thinking not having that *in* comment threads?!
<elvishjerricco> That's a fair point. I wonder if the expansion links don't technically change pages, but just the view
<__monty__> That's possible but it doesn't work properly.
<__monty__> Somehow I always end up scrolled all the way down to the promoted posts stuff.
<cole-h> Working As Intended
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<elvishjerricco> Trimming unhappy cat claws without help is hard...
<__monty__> Godspeed, elvishjerricco, godspeed.
<elvishjerricco> Gave him treats between each paw. Did not help. But hopefully it helped him not hate me for it :P
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<samueldr> at that moment the cat realised it would have been to its advantage to be an arachnid
<__monty__> Or a caterpillar.
<__monty__> (I know caterpillars only have 6 legs.)
<cole-h> When you get too used to readline so you try to Ctrl+w words in Firefox but it just closes the tab
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<infinisil> elvishjerricco: You're not alone, I like the new notification UI too :)
<andi-> It is a huge improvement compared to before. It shows they are aware of the struggles (of some of us)
<andi-> I still think that the vast majority of GH users doesn't see that same amount of notifications.
<__monty__> infinisil: elvishjerricco was talking about the new reddit UI>
<__monty__> Yeah, if anything it could be a power user feature but power users on github are rare imo.
<infinisil> Ah
<infinisil> Lol
<__monty__> And I think they'd be better served with non lock-in ways to handle the load.
<infinisil> Am I the only one that likes the new GH notification UI?
<__monty__> No, andi- still likes it.
<andi-> I would say I like it :)
<andi-> I just think it improved
<__monty__> And all *I*'d need to like it is two configurable things. Group by repo and mark done when opened. But as we all know, web "apps" aren't about giving users what they want. They're about forcing what the designers think is a good idea on all the users.
<infinisil> andi-: Ah I didn't notice your messages before
* andi- takes not that infinisil ignores him :D
<gchristensen> in a travis-ci build, is it possible to know what I'll be merging against?
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<ar> in nix repl, doing "bar = import ./non-existent-file.nix", typing bar. and hitting tab causes nix repl to exit with: error: getting status of '/…/non-existent-file.nix': No such file or directory
<ar> does that count as a bug?
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<gchristensen> probabsly
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<eyJhb> Well. Denmark has shut down all educational systems for two weeks now
<eyJhb> Time to stockpile some toilet paper
<gchristensen> wow
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<ar> eyJhb: so did poland
<{^_^}> nix#3404 (by arachnist, 2 minutes ago, open): Unexpected unclean exit when tab-completing properties from an import of non-existing file.
<eyJhb> ar: damn...
<eyJhb> But the only thing we really need is toiletpaper.. We normally have huge stocks anyways
<eyJhb> So just bought 5 kg rice, because we usually do!
<ar> i have quite a lot of joylent/huel
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<ar> it may not taste good, and may not be healthy in the long run, but at least i shouldn't starve
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<ar> also, cinemas, theaters, and museums are closed
<adisbladis> :<
<joepie91> I have a joylent/queal stockpike also
<joepie91> stockpile*
<joepie91> always do, just comes in handy now
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<__monty__> Won't people secluding themselves also cause more infections? Among family members.
<__monty__> So many people talking like they're ready to get down into the fallout shelter...
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<samueldr> I don't think secluding yourself should affect the infection rate among the household members, unless you don't go home ever
<samueldr> self-isolation is not about you catching it, but you not transmitting it, mainly
<__monty__> Doesn't flu usually spread faster when it's colder because people stay indoors in close proximity more?
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<samueldr> it needs to spread from an external source, if you're self isolating, you're reducing the amount of external sources
<cransom> some viruses also don't replicate as well at cooler temps.
<__monty__> cransom: Yet cold months are notorious for people getting sick.
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<cransom> er sorry
<cransom> *warmer* temps
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<samueldr> one reason it spreads for the reason you stated, is that you pick it up from somewhere, and then share it with the household members, which they then share elsewhere so it can be picked up in another household
<adisbladis> Go to australia, shit's on fire
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<__monty__> Is it temperature or the fact people get fresh air rather than recirculating the virus?
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<samueldr> possibly multiple compounding issues
<cransom> we don't really have any other options, so the best case is to not over whelm the hospitals with local flare ups
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<cransom> if you were interested, don't do what was done 100 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDY5COg2P2c
<__monty__> Can you TLDW?
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<cransom> sure. people are filthy animals.
<samueldr> another good thing to keep in mind, don't visit elderly people, not so that *you* don't catch it, but to reduce their exposure
<samueldr> most tips are not to protect you, but to help society
<cransom> also listening to lung sounds and a doctor saying it sounded like rice crispies.
<samueldr> yum
<srhb> Yeah, govt finally took some action here.. That's nice. Maybe we'll deal then.
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<adisbladis> If only people could stop eating animals we wouldn't have these issues..
<adisbladis> A lot of other issues would also disappear...
<ashkitten> yeah that's actually true
<ashkitten> a lot of viruses in humans come from animals
<gchristensen> is it though
<gchristensen> would we stop getting them if we stopped eating them?
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Not completely, it's not a panacea.
<ashkitten> let me put it this way, the less a virus is exposed to a potential target the less chance it has to adapt and infect that target
<adisbladis> CJD, SARS, this coronavirus
<adisbladis> All from eating animals
<gchristensen> on the other hand, perhaps we would have more severe viruses as a result of not catching less severe ones
<ashkitten> plant viruses are not known to infect mammals as far as i'm aware
<ashkitten> gchristensen: that's a really big claim to not back up with facts
<adisbladis> Animal agriculture is the absolute scourge of society
<gchristensen> adisbladis: I agree
<gchristensen> ashkitten: I guess I think yours is, too
<ashkitten> i mean, it's entirely factual that we get a lot of viruses from other mammals, like the ones adisbladis listed
<gchristensen> sure
<ashkitten> those viruses only evolved to infect humans because they had so many chances to infect us
<ashkitten> because we keep putting the animals in our face holes
* gchristensen disengages
<ashkitten> it's basically random chance every time a human interacts with a virus that a small amount of that virus will have an adaptation that allows it to infect humans
<ashkitten> okay
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<jtojnar> is the infection from actually eating the meat of infected animals or rather improper handling of livestock/raw meat?
<__monty__> I know bacteria don't survive proper cooking.
<adisbladis> jtojnar: Imho it doesn't really matter.
<__monty__> There's traces all over the area where raw meat was handled though.
<adisbladis> I find "improper handling" a very "western" viewpoint. Most of the world doesn't have the same standards.
<jtojnar> better hygiene and we can eat all animals we want 🙃️
<ashkitten> jtojnar: livestock is an issue for other reasons too
<__monty__> jtojnar: Otoh, too much hygiene weakens the immune system.
<adisbladis> If you've ever been to a place like china or vietnam you'd quickly realise that "proper handling" is unlikely to happen in hundreds of years.
<__monty__> adisbladis: Well, wouldn't getting them to stop eating meat altogether be even more hundreds of years?
<adisbladis> __monty__: Maybe? I don't know.
<adisbladis> Maybe the entire human species will be forced by climate change anyway?
<__monty__> I don't know. Wouldn't animals be easier to grow underground? (Mostly a dystopian future joke.)
<gchristensen> now you're cooking with gas, adisbladis
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<adisbladis> gchristensen: Well I _do_ have a gas stove. So that's pretty much standard ;)
<adisbladis> I used to buy vegetables from those kinds of markets where the corona virus originated all the time.. It's basically like going to the supermarket in europe/north america.
<lovesegfault> jtojnar: these viruses jumping hosts, as I understand it, comes from "improper" handling of livestock
<jtojnar> how do they even prevent the meat from rotting when they have it on display and people touching it?
<lovesegfault> in particular unhygienic mixing of disparate species
<adisbladis> jtojnar: They just don't?
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<jtojnar> just throw it into a pot at the end of the day hoping the bacteria did not produce any non-degradable toxins?
<__monty__> Well, meat doesn't rot that fast. Being distasteful to western sensibilities isn't usually even close to "rotting."
<adisbladis> jtojnar: They have some shirtless dude smoking a cigarette with a huge machete chopping the meat right there in front of everyone.
<adisbladis> Even if it's 36 degrees celsius and 90% humidity
<adisbladis> jtojnar: Where I used to live they use red lamp shades to make the meat look more fresh :P
<ldlework> Since rot is a process, meat actually begins to rot immediately.
<ldlework> (Assuming conditions for the related bacteria to multiply is present)
<__monty__> They use lighting in western supermarkets too though.
<adisbladis> jtojnar: Many places have fridges (and with fish it's very common they just put in on an ice bed), but it's also common that they just hang it on a hook whatever the environmental conditions are
<lovesegfault> I rebooted my server and I must now pay the price
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<__monty__> lovesegfault: Non-NixOS?
<lovesegfault> __monty__: it's nixos
<lovesegfault> it's just supermicro machines are slow af
<lovesegfault> sorry, ah
<adisbladis> lovesegfault: Super slow POST process....
<lovesegfault> yes
* lovesegfault stares at iKVM
<adisbladis> Takes my desktop 5 times longer to POST than to actually boot
<adisbladis> Still love supermicro though
<lovesegfault> I like my supermicro stuff
<lovesegfault> s/my/my company's/
<adisbladis> :)
* lovesegfault chef hands
<adisbladis> lovesegfault: Nice. Is that one NUMA node per cpu or 2?
<lovesegfault> 2 NUMA nodes
<lovesegfault> wait
<lovesegfault> no
<lovesegfault> idk
<adisbladis> lovesegfault: http://ix.io/2e0v/text ;)
<lovesegfault> hot damn
<lovesegfault> goddammit is there no way to cfg foldingathome without a cli?
<__monty__> Did I just walk into a server measuring contest?
<adisbladis> __monty__: This is not a server!
<adisbladis> This is my desktop :3
<__monty__> Should I whip out my Pentium M 1.6 GHz?
<gchristensen> yes
<ashkitten> i used to have a core2quad q8400
<drakonis> i had a core2duo at a time core2quads existed
<ashkitten> in a souped up dell optiplex 855
<ashkitten> as my server i hosted everything from
<drakonis> it was a painful experience...
<ashkitten> (last year!)
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<lovesegfault> gchristensen: I got FAH working with nvidia, I think
<jackdk> I still have a 32bit mobo kicking around (pentium dual core or something) that I use to read old floppy drives and run shred/badblocks (though I do that on a pi these days)
<lovesegfault> let me just confirm
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<lovesegfault> gchristensen: bah, it's only using one gpu
<lovesegfault> oh no
<lovesegfault> now it's going
<gchristensen> do you have a config for GPU stuff?
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<lovesegfault> gchristensen: yep, replied on discourse
<gchristensen> oh cool
<lovesegfault> I don't show up on the team page yet
<lovesegfault> :(
<gchristensen> I'm shutting down my home server to see if I can smush in my GPUs...
<joepie91> lovesegfault: you're aware that folding@home is getting shut down, right? or well, officially "on hold"
<gchristensen> I thought htat was SETI?
<lovesegfault> ^
<lovesegfault> It's SETI
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<joepie91> oh wait
<joepie91> yeah I'm confusing the two, sorry
<lovesegfault> FAH is helping cure the coronavirus
<joepie91> I should probably not be IRCing right now, very unfocused :P
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<adisbladis> joepie91: Isn't being unfocused what IRC is for?
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<joepie91> adisbladis: well, a combination of unfocused and anxiety attack
<joepie91> does not combine well with social interaction
<adisbladis> joepie91: :/
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<__monty__> They're stopping SETI?! How will we ever find intelligent life?
<adisbladis> Try sitting lotus or cross-legged and take very long deep breaths
<gchristensen> adisbladis++
<{^_^}> adisbladis's karma got increased to 36
<__monty__> Anxiety about the pandemic?
<adisbladis> I also like turning on a raga, but YMMV
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<joepie91> __monty__: no, not related to covid19
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<adisbladis> joepie91: If you want to you can PM me, I have tons of experience with this...
<samueldr> (I read that as sitting lotus/cross-legged to find intelligent life)
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<joepie91> adisbladis: thanks for the offer, but it's a long-running thing, it will go away eventually; might talk to you about it at some later time, but right now is not a good time :)
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<adisbladis> joepie91: Any time
<gchristensen> bummer: my motherboard doesn't have enough PCIe slots for both and my disk card :/
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<joepie91> gchristensen: just put in an expansion car- wait
<joepie91> :P
<samueldr> you say that, but buttcoin mining did create products that may apply here
<samueldr> if the compute task is not bandwidth dependent, it may be usable :)
<joepie91> gchristensen: more seriously, does it have any NVMe slots that are not in use?
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<adisbladis> joepie91: Personally one of the things that helped me the most with anxiety is to get away from technology & people and go out in nature. It's not a short term fix by any means but in the longer term it really, really helps.
<adisbladis> Also I don't know if you drink alcohol but that shit is straight poison for anxiety.
<joepie91> nah, no alcohol
<adisbladis> Good :)
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<joepie91> I mostly just need to distract myself and not think about it
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<gchristensen> joepie91: lol no, this thing is pre-nvme
<gchristensen> also, I accidentally caught my PSU on fdire
<adisbladis> That's your problem right there. Shit's on fire. :D
<gchristensen> d'oh! I shoulda known
<adisbladis> Step 0: Don't be on fire
<joepie91> fire is bad
<adisbladis> Or rule 0 I should say
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<gchristensen> I hope I didn't damage ... well. some of it.
<adisbladis> That was on the list of rules for my old hackspace
<joepie91> gchristensen: was it a Chinesium PSU?
<gchristensen> no it was an expensive one
<gchristensen> but I wired up the GPU wrong... because it isn't necessarily trivial to wire up.
<gchristensen> who thinks a) the PSU is totally toast, b) the GPU is toast, c) the motherboard &/or CPU is toast, d) the drives are toast too and I'm very sad? taking all bets.
<adisbladis> e) Eat toast
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<samueldr> F
<joepie91> gchristensen: if it was a brand name PSU (and the brand is a reputable one), then my initial expectation would be A
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<joepie91> though it could be any really
<joepie91> at least if the drivers are toast it's probably only the controllers
<adisbladis> Anyone else sometimes have the problem of productivity dropping to 0 because the music is too enjoyable?
<joepie91> drives*
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<gchristensen> I'm going to go ahead and unplug / remove this GPU until I look up how to wire it up :P
<joepie91> adisbladis: very occasionally, when I hear something particularly striking
<joepie91> gchristensen: wait, wire what up?
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<joepie91> adisbladis: one such case a while ago was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkfUnHgSMW4
<gchristensen> it posts!
<gchristensen> joepie91: the GPU
<lovesegfault> has anyone gotten fahcontrol workin properly?
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<adisbladis> joepie91: This is good stuff!
<gchristensen> only minor burney smell.
<joepie91> gchristensen: but... what are you wiring up? ATX hardware is typically "if the plug fits, it's good"
<gchristensen> joepie91: K80
<gchristensen> I have a very unhappy drive
<gchristensen> probably lost part of my system in this experience
<joepie91> adisbladis: it is, isn't it :) quite unusual, sort of musical poetry, but very nice
<__monty__> That sucks, gchristensen.
<__monty__> Want me to lend you some compute on my Pentium M? ; )
<gchristensen> please!
<gchristensen> joepie91: it comes with pigtail power adapters. when I plugged in the pigtails ... it ... well, you know.
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<joepie91> gchristensen: the reason I ask is that if you just used normal plug-and-play stuff and didn't rewire any connectors yourself or such sketchy things, if you contact the manufacturer of the PSU (and again, it's a reputable brand) then there's a reasonable chance that they will compensate you for the hardware damage, because the PSU should've been protected against it
<joepie91> aha
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<gchristensen> the K80 is a unique piece of annoying hw
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<adisbladis> gchristensen: Why do you even have that? :)
<joepie91> Tesla K80?
<gchristensen> yeah
<gchristensen> I have 2, and a K40
<joepie91> gchristensen: I mean, the hint was sorta in the name :D
<gchristensen> haha
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Whoa! That's K200!
<joepie91> unrelated....
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<joepie91> spot the misrotation
<gchristensen> adisbladis: when the speech-rec company I was at basically went belly-up, they handed me the HW for "Safe keeping" and I didn't get the hint they meant "sell them to make up the missed salary"
<joepie91> ouch
<gchristensen> oh well :)
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<joepie91> I hope that didn't translate to too much hardship?
<gchristensen> no
<gchristensen> I knew it was possible going in, and took the risk with my eyes open (and was going to be rewarded for it if it worked)
<joepie91> right
<adisbladis> I'm guessing the US does not have any salary guarantees from the government?
<gchristensen> heh
<gchristensen> this was in Texas. I could have been fired from my job I was working for free at because they didn't like my shoes that day :)
<adisbladis> In Sweden you have 3 months full salary guaranteed if your employer goes bankrupt
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Oh yeah, this "at will" stuff :/
<gchristensen> they never went bankrupt, for strategic reasons
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Oh as an employee you can force them into bankrupcy if they do not pay you your salary (in sweden that is)
<gchristensen> I probably could have, too, but again I was in on it :P
<__monty__> Hmm, didn't realize how shady a character this gchristensen was 🤔
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<gchristensen> not shady ... I was part of the business
<__monty__> "Strategically not going bankrupt," "I was in on it."
<__monty__> : >
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<lovesegfault> Alright, got it all working
<colemickens> worldofpeace: mind if I send you a quick DM?
<worldofpeace> Cole Mickens: sure, I have about 20min
<__monty__> nn, peeps, stay safe
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<colemickens> Ugh. Living in a world where Riot has so many weird annoying UX bugs/gaps, but the native clients are all missing critical functionality.
<lovesegfault> the folding at home website is straight from 2001