<averell>
haha, maybe he also has the record in accumulating.
<adisbladis>
averell: I remember when btrfs send/recv corrupted data for me
<__monty__>
infinisil: Not per-path.
<adisbladis>
"fun" times
<yorick>
I've considered getting a btrfs write-cache ssd
<yorick>
zfs*
<yorick>
(ZIL, I believe it's called)
<infinisil>
yorick: That's a log device
<yorick>
infinisil: yeah, it accelerates your synchronous writes
<infinisil>
Hm I guess it's kind of a cache yeah
<infinisil>
There's also cache vdevs though
<yorick>
I have a 30TB zfs array, I hope 32GB RAM is enough for it
<yorick>
that's all that fits in the server
<__monty__>
What's people's opinion on HDD density? Are 10 or even 20 TB drives too risky? For mostly occasional access archival/backup/NAS usage.
<pie_[bnc]>
__monty__: idk when this starts applying but the REALLY high density drives use helium i think and that leaks out after 6 years or something
<yorick>
pie_[bnc]: um
<yorick>
"Seagate’s helium technology leverages 20 years of sealed-drive design"
<pie_[bnc]>
oh.
<pie_[bnc]>
huh.
<yorick>
but they haven't had helium drives for long enough to know when they fail
<yorick>
__monty__: I have 3x10, with regular scrubbing
<yorick>
but otherwise yeah drive failures are a risk
<__monty__>
"The Exos are helium sealed that can lower TCO by reducing power needs and weight." Weight, really? >.<
<Taneb>
infinisil: damn that Taneb, always one-upping me
<infinisil>
What a guy!
<infinisil>
s/guy/person
<eyJhb>
s/person/living lifeform
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<etu>
__monty__: Helium is pretty light, so sure. Helium instead of air should make the drives lighter :D
<eyJhb>
soon, floating drives!
<__monty__>
According to spec sheets it's ~100g lighter than the heaviest WD Blue 6TB drive.
<__monty__>
That volume of helium/air can't make for a 100g difference.
<etu>
And the comparison is also useless
<etu>
They put Helium in there because they have to, not to make it lighter :D
<__monty__>
I know the comparison's useless. But I'm saying there's a pretty big difference in weight among drives that can't be explained by helium. So claiming it's light because of helium isn't in any way sensible.
<__monty__>
Any touch typers who use both thumbs regularly to press the spacebar?
<gchristensen>
never
<Taneb>
You know I'm not sure
<Taneb>
And now I'm really self conscious about how I'm typing
<__monty__>
: >
<__monty__>
I'm mostly lamenting the lost modifier real-estate.
<Taneb>
I rest both my thumbs on the spacebar but I think I just use my right thumb
<Taneb>
Yeah, if I tuck my left thumb under my hand I don't feel like I'm missing anything
<Taneb>
(I'm not the best at touchtyping though)
<Taneb>
I do use my left thumb for alt, at least
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edgegame is now known as endgame
<__monty__>
I think maybe it's from typewriters? Give your thumb a rest once in a while?
<__monty__>
Or it's a consideration for left-thumb dominant people?
<gchristensen>
to be fair, I only have a spacebar on my right thumb most of the time
<adisbladis>
__monty__: Get a japanese keyboard ;
<adisbladis>
;)
<adisbladis>
They have extra modifiers and a tiny spacebar
<Taneb>
gchristensen: if you can wait 8 and a half months I'll be available for the first one
<__monty__>
And depending on salary I am available rn : )
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<adisbladis>
gchristensen's own posse
<gchristensen>
lol
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<gchristensen>
I would very much like to go home and nap, but I've been trying to meet with this person here for weeks and we have one scheduled in a couple 1.5h
<gchristensen>
screw it. nap time.
<__monty__>
Just give us control of your domotics, gchristensen. What in the world could go awry?
<__monty__>
We'd be nice and only use the power to make your alarm go off in an hour : >
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<worldofpeace>
gchristensen: I you need tips on napping in public pm me 😆
<adisbladis>
I wish I could do napping -.-
<__monty__>
Sounds risky.
<worldofpeace>
it kinda is, I recommend some sort of napping mask. Like even one of those eye cover thingys, those are useful if you're sleeping on a plane and you don't want people snapping pics of your sleeping face. because people actually do that
<samueldr>
is it because you do that you know? :^)
<adisbladis>
worldofpeace: Balaclava? ;)
<worldofpeace>
samueldr: no, but my travelling party thought it was funny once to do a "photo shoot" when I was on the plane once.
<samueldr>
:/
<samueldr>
"travelling party" doesn't sound as fun as it should :)
<__monty__>
Well, now you *have* to share the pics they took in this photo shoot : )
<adisbladis>
worldofpeace: I find those "shiny" ones get too hot
<worldofpeace>
Maybe not all situations, people on the train with those kinda scare me because of movies
<aanderse>
i've never slept on a plane. fortunately i've never seen people taking pictures of other people on a plane either. sounds creepy.
<worldofpeace>
adisbladis: those totally do!
<gchristensen>
aanderse: me either.
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<aanderse>
definitely gonna keep an eye out for photo creepers next time i'm on a plane though... :\
<worldofpeace>
Yall would be soo surprised, because people think it's funny. I found this instagram page that is literally just people sleeping on planes
<gchristensen>
I completely believe it
<gchristensen>
love too mock people trying to catch some shut-eye in one of the most uncomfortable places to do so
<aanderse>
if i could trade the ability to sleep on a plane for having my sleeping face posted on the internet... i would
<gchristensen>
...same
<aanderse>
but i cannot for the life of me sleep on a plane T_T
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<worldofpeace>
I actually figured this out from a model agent I was sitting next too. said he advises all his models to keep that face covered, because if they ain't pay for it they don't get a picture 🤣
<aanderse>
lol
<aanderse>
yeah super creepy though :\
<aanderse>
once i stayed up for something insane like 30~ hours before a flight figuring i was so smart: "there is no way i won't be able to sleep!"
<aanderse>
i couldn't sleep :(
<gchristensen>
:|
<samueldr>
and you were likely a jellified mess on the other end of the trip!
<aanderse>
travelling for 20+ hours you're a jellified mess on the other end pretty much no matter what
<aanderse>
but yeah, jush how much of a mess
<samueldr>
yeah
<cransom>
any plane trip i have, i always feel off afterwords.
<worldofpeace>
aaron: What I do is try to meditate before I board the plane and conceal my eyes from lights and sound. And not eating. seems to help me atleast
<aanderse>
worldofpeace: i don't even try anymore... no point. 3 little ones to deal with.
<worldofpeace>
oh yeah that would do it
<worldofpeace>
lol, perhaps 30~ hours wasn't enough. I know someone if they're relocating they just don't sleep for three days, and they get no lag
<gchristensen>
definitely good advie
<aanderse>
ohh no jet lag?!
<aanderse>
that sounds amazing
<aanderse>
always takes me a week
<gchristensen>
/s
<worldofpeace>
if you do it enough it becomes an art of figureing out what works for you
<worldofpeace>
* figuring
<cransom>
i can sleep without any problem on a plane, its just that it's not actually sleep. it's more so a way to pass time.
<gchristensen>
worldofpeace: very true. for me it is a few km of walks as soon as I get there and then every morning. and a shower at an airport if I take a redeye and have a connection.
<worldofpeace>
cransom: I think you can call that eye resting
<worldofpeace>
gchristensen: yessss walks. It actually forces your body to relax
<worldofpeace>
one of my favs
<gchristensen>
also of course going to bed and waking up at the locally appropriate times no matter how bad or weird it feels.
<aanderse>
yeah don't fall asleep at 8:30pm in case you wake up at 2am fully rested
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<adisbladis>
cransom: I thought that too until I tried business class
<adisbladis>
It turns out actually fully reclining makes a huge difference
<gchristensen>
show off :P
<adisbladis>
^_^
<aanderse>
yeah, that is awesome for you adisbladis :D
<aanderse>
and sucks for the rest of us, ha ha ha
<adisbladis>
I usually dont go in business though :(
<cransom>
i had business class during my heavy flying times. it was sleep sure, but it's just not restful when they tune the cabin to 10,000+ feet.
<cransom>
it's worn off a little bit, but at my best, the take off thrust would kick in and i'd be out.
<ajs124>
__monty__: why have a code of conduct, when you can have a code of ethics instead, like sqlite does?
<__monty__>
I'd rather have a Mandate of Morals.
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<wildtrees>
Prelude of Possibilities
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<gchristensen>
so back in the day, GE was based out of my little town. and they completely ruined a local river and other natural sites by poisoning them with PCBs
<__monty__>
So, just leaving it where they left it after dredging?
<gchristensen>
yep.
<__monty__>
Not really surprised that many people don't care. Learned earlier today that we produced 100kg less garbage in 2019 than the median 2 person househould. So even here, where recycling's the norm, people don't seem to give a shit.
<__monty__>
nn, gchristensen, let me know when I can start as your assistant : )