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<pikajude> was getting super frustrated about how inconsistent WSL can be
<pikajude> until i realized that i can just remotely build *everything*
<pikajude> even shell environments
<pikajude> genius!
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<gchristensen> !
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<dfordivam> Hello I am running kde on the nixos currently and would like to use the same on a vncserver session. I tried to use kde in vnc by putting call to start_kdeinit_wrapper in xstartup. but it doesnt seem to work.. does anyone know how to do this
<pikajude> hang on
<pikajude> does nix-shell use the NIX_BUILD_HOOK?
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<gchristensen> dfordivam: if you can ask again in ... 9 hours, I think you'll get a much better response
<pikajude> it really doesn't, does it
<pikajude> huh
<pikajude> that sucks
<gchristensen> bummer :(
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jerith666 opened pull request #26705: crashplan: move version and rev inside 'mkDerivation rec', simplify src (master...cp-ver-fix) https://git.io/vHjrC
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<hodapp> is there a 'right' way to handle wrapping a Python package like https://pypi.python.org/pypi/prettytensor/ which comes via a Python 2.x wheel and Python 3.x wheel?
<gchristensen> sphalerite: I really <3 dell. even though my keyboard is mucked up :P
<dfordivam> gchristensen: right sunday night in US
<adelbertc> anyone use NixOS on a laptop as their daily driver, and if so which one? i've heard people like the X1 Carbon, XPS 13, and Razer Blades
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<hodapp> adelbertc: Thinkpad T410 (albeit a bit old)
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<dash> adelbertc: i am using it on x1 carbon.
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<dash> adelbertc: nixos sticker on the lid and everything.
<hodapp> I should get one of those
<hodapp> or 5
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<adelbertc> dash: works well? how was the installation?
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<dash> adelbertc: no difficulties
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ajevans85 closed pull request #26666: crashplan: refactor allowing local version bumping with overrideAttrs (master...feature/enable_crashplan_overrideAttrs) https://git.io/vHhLp
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<adelbertc> good to hear :-)
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<mellowmaroon> For compiling my Hakyll project, I keep getting this error:
<mellowmaroon> [ERROR] ./about.rst: hGetContents: invalid argument (invalid byte sequence)
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<hodapp> ...well I was gonna answer that but they left after 5 minutes
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<dtzWill> 'evening, folks! :)
<hodapp> hiya
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<matumental> what would be the preferred nixos-ish way to apply a kernel patch?
<c74d> matumental: the configuration option `boot.kernelPatches`: <https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#boot.kernelPatches>
<c74d> There's no module for running a tmux server as a systemd service, is there?
<matumental> Do I just create my own pkg in an overlay then?
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<c74d> I don't think it needs to be in an overlay; it could just be in some file that's `import`ed
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vHjK9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5eac427 Peter Hoeg: kde-frameworks: 5.33 -> 5.34
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f151daa Peter Hoeg: plasma: 5.9.5 -> 5.10.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 359aff8 Peter Hoeg: plasma-workspace: requires libXtst
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<alphor> when two functions are merged, they're just packaged into a merge attr set. Is output of one piped to another to perform the merge at call time?
<alphor> pkgs = 6
<alphor> whoops.
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<tanonym> Is there a way to install RPMs or .deb packages on NixOS?
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<dash> tanonym: sure
<tanonym> I think I would need a tool to alter the install so all the stuff goes in one directory. I think I could do it using a chrooted jail.
<dash> tanonym: yep
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<tanonym> I wanted to try out Brave browser, but it only comes in RPM and .debian binaries.
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<dash> tanonym: both dpkg and rpm are packaged in nixpkgs
<tanonym> So, then I need a way to take the RPM and convince it the nix-type directory is a proper FHS system. Or just use the RPM tool and pass an option that jails it to my home directory?
<tanonym> Such as /home/tanonym/Applications/Brave for example?
<tanonym> Hm, the RPM-OSTree tool might be an option to consider.
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<dash> tanonym: buildFHSUserEnv is the typical thing
<tanonym> Okay.
<simpson> tanonym: Take a look at how Steam is packaged; it's the same sort of thing, with a binary installer that unpacks into an FHS user environment.
<tanonym> Right now Pale Moon is the best option I have found. My laptop is old so the performance from most other browsers just sucks (including Midori, oddly enough)
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<tanonym> Thanks for the tips, dash and simpson. I'll look into that and see what I can figure out.
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<uwap> I tried upgrading my system today but now I got an error with gitlab
<uwap> gitlab-pre-start[9230]: Bundler::GemNotFound: Could not find mysql2-0.3.20 in any of the sources
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<uwap> does anyone have an idea what the error might be?
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<uwap> fpletz[m] maybe?
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<fnljk> uwap: ive no idea, maybe it screw ur system even...but id just try "gem install mysql2-0.3.20"...shud work..mabbe?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vHjMv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 629e9c6 Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'staging'...
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<dave___> in terraform resources export an arbitrary amount of variables: https://www.terraform.io/docs/providers/aws/r/s3_bucket.html#attributes-reference, but in nixops only resource ID and ip address (if applicable): https://gist.github.com/272f1bf0f6c434786c35f664c4426829
<dave___> Is there a way to export and query arbitrary metadata about a resource? There is the .nixops sqlite3 file which has data in it, but that feels dirty
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: What about dell do you love?
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<sphalerite> adelbertc: I'm using nixos on my XPS 15 as the exclusive OS. gchristensen did a very nice write-up on installing it https://gist.github.com/grahamc/fba67370053acc01ac216a6e4b73d308
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<hyper_ch> virtualbox is broken on master :(
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mmai opened pull request #26706: shaarli: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.4 (release-17.03...release-17.03) https://git.io/vHj9f
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<nixy> How crazy would it be to use NixOps to provision the server you are running NixOps from? Would that work?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #26706: shaarli: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.4 (release-17.03...release-17.03) https://git.io/vHj9f
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vHjQk
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d454675 Bart Brouns: faust: 2.0.a51 -> 2.1.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #26701: mopidy-spotify: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 (master...master) https://git.io/vHjRl
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #26633: faust: 2.0.a51 -> 2.1.0 (master...faust) https://git.io/vHxnj
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vHjQn
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2cb4b8f Matt McHenry: crashplan: move version and rev inside 'mkDerivation rec', simplify src
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d159271 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #26705 from jerith666/cp-ver-fix...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #26345: nixpkgs manual: advise against overriding whole phases (master...p/doc-override-phases) https://git.io/vH2vE
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<kiloreux> I am getting this error when trying to run an installed ffmpeg "ffmpeg-3.3.1: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
<kiloreux> even trying to copy the libbz2.so.1.0 to lib directory didn't solve it
<kiloreux> any idea on how I could approach this ?
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<hyper_ch> how is uninsg "pass" (password manager) here? for some reason, autocomplete isn't working for me
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<goibhniu> kiloreux: have you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or something like that?
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<Isorkin> Hi. How to build nix package with cygwin? Error - failed to load external entity "/docbook-rng-missing/docbook.rng". ./configure --disable-doc-gen - not work
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<domenkozar> LnL: took only 18 days :)
<pikajude> hmmm
<pikajude> well
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vHjNl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c1e5ca9 Eelco Dolstra: aws-sdk-cpp: Better fix for the failing credentials test
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/629e9c6dc7 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<fpletz[m]> uwap: no idea :( somebody broke bundlerenv but haven't looked at it yet what commit caused this. it's master after all :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 1e2cca4 Eelco Dolstra: aws-sdk-cpp: Better fix for the failing credentials test...
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<Mic92> clever: you don't have by accident a netboot setup, where can pass my nixos installer configuration as an input and get a configured dhcp/tftp server out?
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<nixy> hyper_ch: I had to fiddle with things to get the autocompletion for `pass` working
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<hyper_ch> nixy: and how/what did you fiddle?
<nixy> hyper_ch: I am getting to that :) Gotta find what I did lol. I am pretty sure it had to do with Nix not scanning bash_completions outside the bash_completion package correctly.
* hyper_ch gives nixy a cookie for motivation
<nixy> export BASH_COMPLETION_USER_DIR="$HOME/.nix-profile/share/bash-completion/"
<hyper_ch> bashrc?
<nixy> Then you can source `$HOME/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh`
<nixy> Yeah you can add it to your bashrc to do it automatically
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<hyper_ch> thx
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<nixy> Honestly for me pass is pretty unusable without the completion lol. Don't know how I got by without it
<hyper_ch> qtpass ;)
<hyper_ch> do not work though
<nixy> You may also need to have the bash-completion package installed in your user profile for that to work
<hyper_ch> I try to not to install things on user
<hyper_ch> single-user-system
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<nixy> That substantially changes the solution. I am running mostly on OS X, so I wouldn't really know how to solve this problem for that setup.
<nixy> The solution should be similiar, make sure you are sourcing the bash_completion.sh and ensure that the directory containing the completion for pass, which is within the derivation for pass, is sourced
<gchristensen> sphalerite: their tech support is treating me with respect, and is willing to mail me my replacement part, instead of me sending in the laptop for 7 days
<hyper_ch> nixos-users-wiki: what is in bash_completion.sh?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vHjj8
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 5413bfa Orivej Desh: Speed up parsing @args.rsp compiler arguments...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 55616ad Domen Kožar: Merge pull request #26554 from orivej/rsp...
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<hyper_ch> nixy: I don't have that .nix-profile/share folder
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<uwap> fpletz[m]: okay. thanks. I guess I will just wait for the fix :)
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<nixy> hyper_ch: Sorry, got lost in something else. You wouldn't have the completion under /share in your .nix-profile if you have it installed system wide.
<nixy> There should be a system wide profile somewhere, I believe it is /run/current-system/sw/, where the bash completion should be located
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<avn> Folks, anyone know, what mean "Path /nix/store/xxxxxxxx is not valid"?
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<hyper_ch> nixy: first part works for me for global installed bash-completion https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/aaa32027
<hyper_ch> elif was added from your feedback
<nixy> You probably want export BASH_COMPLETION_USER_DIR="/run/current-system/sw/share/bash-completion/"
<hyper_ch> why?
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<hyper_ch> it works fine sourcing that bash_complete script
<nixy> Ehhh if it works it works.
<nixy> Things may have changed from underneath me since I got this working myself
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<hyper_ch> mine actually looks like this currently: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/fc7e87de
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #26707: rust-bindgen: 0.24.0 -> 0.25.5 (master...rust-bindgen) https://git.io/vQeJf
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<LnL> I want NIX_IMPURE_DOCHECK=0, the cryptography tests take forever on arm
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<catern> hey
<catern> er, yay*
<catern> people say that there should be an RFC for the feature I proposed on the mailing lists
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<jophish> Does anyone know of an open source "image pastebin"
<jophish> some nixos module I can use to allow uploading and viewing files (images) on a server
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<goibhniu> jophish: https://github.com/ipfspics/ipfspics-server might be nice
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<jophish> I'll check it out, thanks goibhniu!
<jophish> I wonder if this is appropriate for a central server on a LAN
* goibhniu noticed some other options on https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted too
<wmertens[m]> How can I convert a 32bit system to 64 bit? I imagine it's a setting somewhere?
<Dezgeg> other way around would be easy, that way is just hassle without reinstall
<jophish> goibhniu: that's a really good list, thanks for sharing!
<Dezgeg> well not complete reinstall but booting to the 64-bit livecd and running nixos-install
<wmertens[m]> Shouldn't I be able to set something and nixos-rebuild boot?
<jophish> clever: ^ Perhaps another kexec magic user
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<Dezgeg> the tricky part is to get the 64-bit configuration built (which your 32-bit kernel can't do)
<wmertens[m]> oh I see. And the crosscompilation isn't smart enough
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<LnL> maybe, but then you'd have to build everything yourself
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/vQeTX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 102c006 Jörg Thalheim: hardware: add enableRedistributalFirmware...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 cb90e6a Jörg Thalheim: hardware.enableRedistributableFirmware: fix spelling error...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6301101 Peter Hoeg: virtmanager-qt: 0.43.70.2 -> 0.43.72
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 392f4ac Peter Hoeg: kde-applications: fix command in doc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9193bcb Peter Hoeg: kde-applications: 17.04.1 -> 17.04.2...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] robx closed pull request #26606: python-modules/protobuf: fix darwin build by using $CXX instead of $CC (master...fix-python-protobuf) https://git.io/vHNa4
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<gchristensen> joachifm: ping?
<gchristensen> oh nvm I see fpletz[m] & Mic92 already got it I think
<gchristensen> hmm maybe not, the 17.03 tested job can't be evaluated because it has unfree stuff
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<Unode> Hi all, I've seen a few posts here and there of people using the command 'nix' as a package manager. Is this released already?
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<nixy> Unode: I think that is in the nixUnstable package
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<Unode> nixy: thanks. I'll have a look
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<srhb> Unode: Make sure to check whether that's safe to use now -- it used to be that you couldn't reliably go back in all cases.
<gchristensen> you can use nixUnstable with stable nix as your daemon
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<vanschelven> I'm setting up NixOs with Xmonad; hello, and would like to start some processes either when X starts, on when I log into my to my session (in either case the processes should be killed automatically on the reverse action, i.e. X stop or logout)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vQenA
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master b5bdfde Eelco Dolstra: macOS: Remove flags...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 1888f78 Eelco Dolstra: macOS: Ugly hack to make the tests succeed...
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<vanschelven> On Ubuntu, I had this configured in .xinitrc, where the last line of the .xinitrc was to start xmonad
<gchristensen> vanschelven: maybe like ~/.xprofile ?
<gchristensen> or ~/.xinitrc
<vanschelven> I have ~/.xinitrc, but it's not being used (AFAICS)
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<gchristensen> hmm maybe try the .xprofile :)
<vanschelven> I will
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<vanschelven> .xprofile is the answer! Thanks very much
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to 1.11-maintenance: https://git.io/vQecQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/1.11-maintenance 11dd08f Eelco Dolstra: macOS: Ugly hack to make the tests succeed...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/1.11-maintenance 026f4f9 Eelco Dolstra: macOS: Remove flags...
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<vanschelven> what's the meaning of "Session: none+xmonad" at the bottom of the login screen? No actual problem here, I'm just curious
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<vanschelven> specifically I'm curious to the "none" part :-D
<dash> vanschelven: description of what desktop env and window manager are being started
<vanschelven> of course :-)
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<joehh> interesting, I've got this configured in .xsessionrc - is there any difference?
<Unode> srhb: go back? I still keep the old copy of nix in the store. Or do you mean repository structure?
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<nixy> Unode: Nix upgrades can sometimes change the structure of Nix's database in ways that it can't be rolled back to be used with older version of Nix
<Unode> nixy: I see. Then I guess it's better not to do it just yet. Multi-user setup, nix-daemon and all.
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<Unode> thanks for the feedback
<Unode> and the warnings
<gchristensen> Unode: it is safe to use the nixUnstable _client_ with the stable nix daemon
<gchristensen> nix-shell -p nixUnstable and you can use `nix`
<gchristensen> just don't do in configuration.nix: nix.package = nixUnstable
<nixy> How does that work if you aren't using a nix daemon at all?
<Unode> gchristensen: this is a non-nixos setup. Doest this still apply?
<nixy> Like on darwin
<gchristensen> (however, at this time, the difference will not break and you can roll back to stable nix even if you use the nixUnstable package for the daemon)
<gchristensen> if you're using the daemon, don't use nixUnstable for your daemon
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas opened pull request #26711: firefox-beta-bin and firefox-devedition-bin update (master...update-firefox-bin) https://git.io/vQe4v
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #26663: musescore: 2.0.3 -> 2.1.0 (master...musescore) https://git.io/vHprA
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #26648: serd: 0.24.0 -> 0.26.0 (master...serd) https://git.io/vHx46
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/cb90e6a036 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03-small)
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<Unode> when using fetchgit, what should go in the sha256 hash? I thought it would be the commit hash but that's sha1.
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<DIzFer[m]> the commit hash goes into `rev`, the sha256 is of the downloaded repository. Use nix-prefetch-git to find it
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gnidorah opened pull request #26712: nas: init at 1.9.4 (master...master2) https://git.io/vQegS
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<DIzFer[m]> so, I'm trying to get telegram 1.1.7 to work
<DIzFer[m]> which I did... until a commit removing makeqtwrapper got merged
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<DIzFer[m]> now, when it compiles, and I try to run it, it complains because it cannot find the QT5 XCB platform plugin
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<DIzFer[m]> anyone knows how is this supposed to be fixed?
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<DIzFer[m]> I'm noticing this could be an issue on the recompiled Qt instead...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas closed pull request #26711: firefox-beta-bin and firefox-devedition-bin update (master...update-firefox-bin) https://git.io/vQe4v
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #26713: llvmPackage_{3.4,3.5,3.7,3.8,3.9}: fix output of llvm-config (staging...llvm-config) https://git.io/vQerW
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<disasm> Mic92: why'd you remove vimwiki in commit Sun Jun 11 12:09:29 2017 +0100 425bc07d43 vimPlugins: update source [Jörg Thalheim]
<dmj`> has anyone considered putting rumpkernel on nixpkgs
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<disasm> LnL: yeah, I think it was a mistake is my guess
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] cillianderoiste pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vQe6K
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9d04414 Bart Brouns: jackaudio: 1.9.10 -> 1.9.11-RC1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d747e1 goibhniu: Merge pull request #26626 from magnetophon/jackaudio...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vQeig
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ffa0489 Tuomas Tynkkynen: afl: 2.42b -> 2.43b
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f19f631 Tuomas Tynkkynen: fio: 2.20 -> 2.21
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3170335 Tuomas Tynkkynen: yle-dl: 2.16 -> 2.17
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] siddharthist opened pull request #26714: flask-restplus: update to 0.10 (master...flask-restplus) https://git.io/vQe1H
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<gchristensen> "nix-repl.x86_64-darwin" passed! channel updates for everyone!
<gchristensen> !m niksnut, everybody
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, niksnut, everybody!
<LnL> yeah, did you see the test hack?
<Ankhers> gchristensen: For those of use that are still fairly new to Nix, would you mind explaining a little?
<gchristensen> sure, but just in a few minutes :)
<gchristensen> LnL: I did, I think I encouraged it :)
<LnL> well, it's still a lot better then doCheck = false
<gchristensen> yp
<LnL> which I was starting to consider for one eval to get 1.11.10 out
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas opened pull request #26715: firefox-*-bin: update to latest (release-17.03...release-17.03) https://git.io/vQeSJ
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<gchristensen> Ankhers: sorry, I can't personally explain right now. maybe https://howoldis.herokuapp.com/ will help?
<Ankhers> gchristensen: No problem. I'll take a look. Thanks!
<gchristensen> you're welcome, let me know in ~2hrs if you still need more explaining :)
<LnL> it's 19 days old now
<LnL> if you look at http://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/unstable#tabs-constituents you can see that nix-repl was broken
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<Ankhers> What is considered "normal" for unstable?
<LnL> if all of the builds in that job are green the nixpkgs-unstable channel will update
<gchristensen> Ankhers: between a few times a day to as long as a week, _sometimes_ 2, rarely worse than 2
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<LnL> it depends
<Ankhers> Gotcha. So that is quite a large time gap this time around.
<LnL> yeah, and there's an important nix update
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<LnL> let's hope nobody broke one of the other builds :)
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/311d06a787 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<qknight> i have one computer where i have vim_configurable but still no highlight for nix
<qknight> what could cause this? vim is not installed, neither in nix-env -q nor in the systemPackages
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<LnL> I thought the basic syntax support was enabled by default
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<qknight> LnL: yes and that is the disturbing thing, it's not working
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<LnL> the vim_configurable expression uses the composableDerivation thing so I don't know how to debug that
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<LnL> it also looks at the nixpkgs.config for settings and stuff
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<Sonarpulse> DavidEGr1yson: _MCW_DN' undeclared here (not in a function)
<Sonarpulse> you know about that error?
<Sonarpulse> was trying to fix some windows things with my "get rid of gcc cross wrapper" PR
<Sonarpulse> to at least ensure no regressions
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vQeb2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 2d8b869 Shea Levy: pythonPackages.sphinx: Tests seem to be broken on darwin
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<endformationage> DanC: I'm wondering if you can reproduce my results of the example ponyc code found at https://gist.github.com/patternspandemic/b0ab0872788831aa5aa52ce071f72ca3
<endformationage> DanC: It was not reproducible on OSX.
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<endformationage> DanC: Basically, it appears to me that an actor hangs during garbage collection. I've not yet tried compiling ponyc with an older supported llvm.
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<Ankhers> If I am packaging a specific version of something for nixpkgs, should I be using 1.4.nix or 1_4.nix for version 1.4?
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<gchristensen> is that a file name?
<Ankhers> Yes.
<gchristensen> probably 1.4.nix
<Ankhers> Thanks.
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<gchristensen> no thank you :)
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<vandenoever> is it possible to use stack in a nix expression? stack normally downloads from the stack repo
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/cb90e6a036 (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03)
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<gchristensen> !!!
<gchristensen> I'm going to celebrate every channel release until nixpkgs-unstable gets out
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 00aa7c6 Eelco Dolstra: Show aws-sdk-cpp log messages
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 1c96961 Eelco Dolstra: Suppress "will retry in N ms" for non-retriable errors...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master b33621d Eelco Dolstra: Handle S3Errors::RESOURCE_NOT_FOUND from aws-sdk-cpp...
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/2d8b86954b (from 57 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03-small)
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<niksnut> 1.11.11 release incoming
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<gchristensen> nixos-17.03-small! woop!
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<Ankhers> I know this has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer. What is the best way to find the expected sha256 of a fetchFromGitHub?
<gchristensen> Ankhers: usually I put in the wrong one and then it tells me the right one (note: if you put in the wrong one, it has to be a uniquely wrong one, not just copy-pasted from another example nearby)
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<niksnut> Ankhers: nix-prefetch-url -A
<niksnut> or --unpack
<gchristensen> IIRC that breaks if you use it on patches? and I haven't used it since, as I put the wrong sha in for about 30 Xen patches :P
<niksnut> maybe if they use fetchpatch
<gchristensen> yeah that's exactly what happened
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<Filystyn> should compiled in nix-shell soft be runed in nix-shell?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra tagged 1.11.11 at 5d68e15: https://git.io/vQvUG
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vQvUl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 7b1e936 Eelco Dolstra: nix: 1.11.10 -> 1.11.11
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<Ankhers> Thanks.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5446934 Eelco Dolstra: nix: 1.11.10 -> 1.11.11...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 76d649b Rok Garbas: firefox-*-bin: update to latest
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<Sonarpulse> niksnut: that fixes darwin test failures I hope?!
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<Sonarpulse> 1.11.11 that is
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<niksnut> yes
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ankhers opened pull request #26716: Generalize building of Elixir interpreter (master...generalize-elixir) https://git.io/vQvLV
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<Sonarpulse> niksnut: great!
<pie_> sooo whats the best way to go about getting an objdump that supports arm
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nc6 opened pull request #26717: Package sublime-dev build. (master...pkg/sublime3-dev) https://git.io/vQvqe
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nc6 opened pull request #26718: Package sublime-dev build. (master...pkg/sublime3-dev) https://git.io/vQvm0
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<Mic92> disasm: how did you added vimwiki to vimPlugins
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<disasm> Mic92: right now I have it in my plugins.nix for plugins not in nixpkgs since it disappeared from pkgs/misc/vim-plugins/default.nix, but before I was just using the one in that file.
<sdll> Team, could you please tell me how I can add a long list of hosts to my /etc/hosts in NixOS, given a file like in https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts ?
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<disasm> Mic92: it's commit 425bc07d43 that removed it
<nh2> hi, can I access the `mkOption` of another nixos module, to re-use it in my own nixops module?
<sdll> disasm: Sorry if you feel targeted, do you know how to ~cat~ a long file into /etc/hosts in configuration.nix?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 10c2f39 Jörg Thalheim: vimPlugins.vimwiki: readd...
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<Mic92> disasm: ^
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<disasm> thanks Mic92!
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<tikhon> Our internal build is taking too much memory and has the "dumping very large paths" warning. How should I go about reducing the memory it needs?
<gleber_> Ankhers: is there anything in nixpkgs that you wanted to get improved in terms of Erlang/Elixir support? If not, I'll move on to start working on rebar3 Nix plugin
<Ankhers> gleber_: Nothing specifically. I just wanted to be able to use Nix for my Elixir projects. I don't know specifically what would need to be fixed still. I will just keep trying to fix things as they come along.
<nh2> tikhon: add a `builtins.trace` to your uses of `filterSource`, to see what it pull sin
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<nh2> often you accidentally pull in large binary files that shouldn't be part of the build inputs
<nh2> or the `.git` directory or similar
<Ankhers> gleber_: With that said, I will need to change some things in my PR after yours is merged because of being able to select the erlang version (which is awesome by the way).
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<gleber_> Ankhers: so this essentially allow to produce all versions of (erlang, elixir) tuple :D Awesome!
<gleber_> Ankhers: if you could take generalization of LFE on, that would be awesome too :)
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<Ankhers> gleber_: I will do that once #26668 is merged.
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<Ankhers> gleber_: Then after that I am not quite sure what to do. I think it would be nice to have a rebar2nix and mix2nix tool.
<gleber_> Ankhers: in this case I'll start with rebar3 Nix plugin (and later one for Mix), which would replace rebar3-nix-bootstrap script
<tikhon> nh2: thanks, I'll try that
<gleber_> Ankhers: yeah, that's exactly the goal of rebar3 Nix plugin!
<Ankhers> gleber_: Would it work on both rebar and mix? Or should they be separate?
<gleber_> Ankhers: it would allow to (1) bootstrap dependencies, (2) create shell.nix, (3) create default.nix
<gleber_> Ankhers: I will start with rebar3 and figure out the rest later
<gleber_> Ankhers: I have never done Elixir before
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<Ankhers> gleber_: Sounds good. I can do the Elixir work if it makes it easier on you. I can also help with some of the erlang programming if you would like it.
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<gleber_> Ankhers: I think they could share the core library though
<Ankhers> Most likely. I believe rebar deps look similar to elixir deps.
<gleber_> correct
<gleber_> Look at mix-bootstrap in nixpkgs - it's actually a slightly modified copy of rebar3-nix-bootstrap
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<gleber_> Ankhers: the first version should be rather easy - it would provide only "rebar3 nix bootstrap" command by repackaging rebar3-nix-bootstrap logic
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<Ankhers> gleber_: Actually, there was one thing I wanted to do. I wanted to make the default erlang version R19. But I ran into an issue building relx-exe. I'll take a look at it again in a bit though.
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<gleber_> Ankhers: I'll take a look now
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: that is good
<tikhon> nh2: what should I trace in filterSource? I tried tracing the result of the function, but that just got me the package's path in the store.
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<gleber_> Ankhers: ah, after a rebase need to wait for Erlang to be rebuilt... yawn...
<Ankhers> gleber_: heh, sorry...
<nh2> tikhon: each path and file name
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<nh2> tikhon: for example, when you have `src = builtins.filterSource (path: type: ...) ./source-dir`, trace path and type
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<tikhon> makes sense, thanks
<nh2> tikhon: if you have the simpler `src = ./source-dir`, insert a filterSource that lets all paths through, so that you can trace those
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<tikhon> nh2: we have a filterSource, but that's a useful trick
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<nh2> tikhon: please let me know what your results with this approach are
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<tikhon> is there an easy way to measure the memory usage of a build?
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<tikhon> so I can tell whether there's an improvement
<nh2> tikhon: you might just want to use `time`, which shows max resident RAM
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<simendsjo> I'm wondering if there might be something wrong with my desktop nixos setup. It doesn't seem to upgrade, while my laptop upgrades all time time. How can I find out how far behind I am and what might be wrong?
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<tikhon> nh2: okay, I'll give it a try and see if I can reduce it
<sphalerite> simendsjo: automatically?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 04ed11a Shea Levy: Let hydra choose an alternate list of systems
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<sphalerite> or when you run nixos-rebuild switch/boot?
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<gleber_> Ankhers: act
<gleber_> Ankhers: oops
<simendsjo> sphalerite: I'm running `sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade` daily.
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<zarel> hi :)
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<sphalerite> simendsjo: that is weird. What do nix-channel --update and nix-channel --list say on the non-updating machine?
<gleber_> Ankhers: after looking at #26716 I think you'll have to do more magic to make packages in nixpkgs/pkgs/development/beam-modules/default.nix to be built with different elixir versions depending
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<freezeboy> hi, does anyone know if the nixpkgs overlay feature can be used for the "system" nixos profile ?
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<LnL> you can use nixpkgs.overlays in your nixos configuration IIRC
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<simendsjo> sphalerite: For my user, nothing, but for root nixos-17.03. Update runs, but it never does more than just downloading the packages and creating 2 symlinks.
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<gleber_> Ankhers: I think that capability is provided #17240 with interpreterConfig. Although do not take this for granted, I am still learning Nix :)
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<LnL> that vaguely rings a bell, let me look what I did
<simendsjo> sphalerite: Wait, what! It didn't seem to do anything different than nixos-rebuild, but after running nixos-rebuild again, it started downloading and building lots of stuff! Haven't done that in a long time. Why would running `nix-channel --update` fix the issue? Shouldn't the --upgrade switch for nixos-rebuild do this?
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<freezeboy> LnL: oh nice I didn't notice it and was really sad, thank you
<LnL> I only accidentally discovered it :)
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<freezeboy> so if i have my local file, I should just import it and put it in an array, right ?
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<LnL> yeah, you could do something like this nixpkgs.overlays = [ (import ./foo.nix) (import ./bar.nix) ];
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<sphalerite> simendsjo: it should indeed. I don't know why it wouldn't
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<Ankhers> gleber_: I will look into that.
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<gleber_> Ankhers: relxExe fails to build with R19, since it treats warning about a module being deprecated as an error - this happens in a dependency of relx
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<Ankhers> gleber_: Is it just a matter of bumping the version of the package?
<gleber_> Ankhers: yes, erlware_commons_0_19_0 would need to be bumped. I'll give it a try
<Ankhers> gleber_: Ok. Let me know if there is anything you want me to do.
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<pie_> sooo whats the best way to go about getting an objdump that supports arm?
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<gleber_> Ankhers: as expected, I would have to bump multiple packages up :/ it would be easier with rebar2nix (aka rebar3_nix_plugin)
<gleber_> Ankhers: would you mind if I work on rebar2nix first? :)
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<Ankhers> gleber_: I'm just thinking out loud here, but Elixir 1.4 is still Elixir 1.4 whether it was built uing R18 or R19. Elixir just needs a version of Erlang on the system. I don't know that it makes a lot of sense to have beam.packages.erlangR19.elixir.
<Ankhers> gleber_: Not at all. It isn't a big priority. Just thought it was something that should be done because R19 has been out for a while.
<gleber_> Ankhers: R18 vs R19 have different runtime characteristics, hopefully with R19 being faster. So the language does not change, but runtime does
<gleber_> Ankhers: I want to do the upgrade, but it has to come with upgrade of all packages
<Ankhers> gleber_: I agree there, but Elixir doesn't need to be built with the same version of Erlang that it is running on. That is all I mean.
<gleber_> ah! got it
<gleber_> Ankhers: so I'll focus on the plugin first
<Ankhers> I can build Elixir on R18, then upgrade to R19 at some later point and my Elixir will still do everything.
<Ankhers> gleber_: Sounds good. Ping me if you would like any help with it.
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<gleber_> Ankhers: ack
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<disasm> /query -bitlbee becky my schedules open tomorrow :)
<disasm> meh, sorry
<gchristensen> sounds good, want to meet up for coffee?
<disasm> gchristensen: depends, where do you live? :)
<gchristensen> western MA
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<disasm> little bit of a drive from central PA :)
<gchristensen> oh shoot, is that all?
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<disasm> any nix related conferences going on up there? I could probly get permission to drive up for coffee if it was to attend a conference
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<gchristensen> it could be GrahamAndSamCon
* disasm would love it if there was a NixCon in the US some year :)
<gchristensen> there are a bunch of people in IL
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<Ankhers> Is there a NixCon that happens? I'm only aware of talks that have happened at other conferences.
<gleber_> Ankhers: http://nixcon2017.org/
<Ankhers> Cool. Would be interesting to go.
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<disasm> yeah, I'd love to go to Munich :) But don't think it's happening this year.
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<sphalerite> I should be going :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cb6a99d Peter Simons: haskell-test-framework-quickcheck2: force update to latest version...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bb394af Peter Simons: haskell-ghc-syb-utils: force update to latest version...
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<Sonarpulse> gchristensen: I see the job completed but channel is the same
* Sonarpulse mouth waters
<Sonarpulse> so close!
<Sonarpulse> is there another super secret CI step?
<gchristensen> Sonarpulse: IIRC two things: (1) the rest of the jobs need to finish (2) the channel updater runs every 10 minutes and will pick it up after that
<LnL> it just takes a little time
<Sonarpulse> the rest of the jobs?
<Sonarpulse> you mean nixos-unstable being aborted is causes problems?
<Sonarpulse> *causing
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<fresheyeball> hey out there
<fresheyeball> so I am interested in Hydra
<fresheyeball> I know hydra can build and cache artifacts
<fresheyeball> but... can it deploy things?
<gchristensen> Sonarpulse: which channel are you referring to?
<fresheyeball> can hydra run scripts?
<fresheyeball> a la Jenkins?
<Sonarpulse> gchristensen: nixpkgs-unstable
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<gchristensen> nixos-unstable isn't tied to nixpkgs-unstable :)
<gchristensen> https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1368710#tabs-unfinished these need to finish
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<Sonarpulse> gchristensen: oh I thought it was just http://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/unstable
<Sonarpulse> I guess the those must build sucessfully, while your link must just be attempted?
<gchristensen> right
<Sonarpulse> mm thanks
<gchristensen> as far as I understand it, all the jobs have to complete (passed or failed) and unstable all must pass
<Sonarpulse> gotcha
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<LnL> makes sense, otherwise you'd have to build everything yourself when the channel updates
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<tikhon> I'm having problems with a build running out of memory, including the "very large path" warning. nh2 suggested tracing every file that gets filtered via filterSource, but nothing stood out.
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<tikhon> There are a handful of test fixture files larger than 1mb, including one that's 10mb and one that's 34mb. Are those big enough to cause problems?
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<tikhon> Beyond looking at all the files that are copied over, how can I debug build memory problems?
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<LnL> are you on nixos?
<tikhon> no
<tikhon> CentOS
<LnL> check if /tmp is a tmpfs
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<tikhon> (also macOS)
<LnL> you can run into problems if you have a large build
<tikhon> if it's on tmpfs?
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<fresheyeball> ok, just hit me with a yes or no
<LnL> yes, if the build + sources etc are to large to fit into memory it will fail
<fresheyeball> can hydra replace jenkins?
<LnL> not really
<Mateon1> Hi, I'm having trouble with firewall rules in nixos. It seems that ipv6 traffic coming from the tun0 interface ignored iptables rules completely. How can I debug this?
<Mateon1> ignores*
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<tikhon> LnL: What I'm finding pretty weird is that, at least within our own project, the sources just aren't that big.
<tikhon> Even with the test data, the total size is <60mb
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<LnL> if you're not using the nix-daemon you can check with TMPDIR=$PWD/tmp nix-build ...
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<tikhon> I think we *are* using tmpfs
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<tikhon> I don't think we're using nix-daemon
<tikhon> oh, actually, we probably are
<tikhon> anyway, the problem has come up pretty recently
<Mateon1> Looking at ip6tables -vL output, it seems that "-A nixos-fw -i lo -j nixos-fw-accept" rule catches all nmap packets I send, the address I am using is bound to tun0, definitely not loopback
<tikhon> when we build everything—including dependencies—our VM crashes after running out of memory
<LnL> in that case you need to set TMPDIR for the daemon process
<tikhon> it's worked consistently in the past
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<tikhon> I'll give changing the tmp directory a try
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<LnL> otherwise it's probably something related to the build itself so you'd have to monitor/debug that
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<tikhon> okay, thanks for the help
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<gchristensen> pie_: is there a fix availablee?
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<joepie91> ... trying to package Starbound, and it throws this error: Caused by: (IOException) could not create directory '../storage/', Read-only file system
<pie_> welll " As a result we are releasing this advisory today as a coordinated effort, and patches for all distributions are available June 19, 2017. We strongly recommend that users place a high priority on patching these vulnerabilities immediately."
<joepie91> why the hell is a Linux build trying to write to its install directory?
<joepie91> that wouldn't even work *outside* of Nix...
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<gchristensen> pie_: can you submit a PR applying the patch to nixpkgs? I'm not able to, until later tonight.
<pie_> gchristensen, sorry i cant actually do it :(
<pie_> i mean i havent the faintest clue of how, just saw the link and thought id ask
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<pie_> i mean i have a faint clue, but thats not enough
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<gchristensen> :) yeah, I can't do it for several hours :(
<pie_> sorry :(
<pie_> man these guys are hardcore
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<simpson> Cross-post from #python: Is there a "I have CentOS at work but I need modern tools in my homedir so how do I Nix?" doc somewhere?
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<pie_> alternatively, the sky is falling and does nix run on seL4?
<Sonarpulse> $ nix-env -f . -qa --out-path | sort > good
<Sonarpulse> error: evaluation aborted with the following error message: ‘bass not packaged for x86_64-darwin (yet).’
<Sonarpulse> how can I....not care?
<Sonarpulse> is there a way to just skip such exceptions?
<pie_> looks like they...dropped the bass
* pie_ drops mic
* pie_ walks off stage, tears of awesome streaming down his face as a gust of wind blows a cloud of nixos stickers across the screen
<Sonarpulse> :D
<bennofs1> Sonarpulse: perhaps you can map builtins.tryEval over nixpkgs ?
<Sonarpulse> bennofs1: that might be the best way! :O
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<pie_> um how can i get a binutils with arm support?
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<Sonarpulse> pie_: it's now in the manual!
<Sonarpulse> sorta
<Sonarpulse> but
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<Sonarpulse> i will tl;dr you
<Sonarpulse> nix-build '<dope-new-nixpkgs>' --args crossPlatform '(import <dope-new-nixpkgs/lib>).systems.example.someWonderfulArmPlatform' -A buildPackages.binutils
<Sonarpulse> also pie_ pkgs/development/libraries/audio/libbass/default.nix your joke was v relevant!
<Sonarpulse> bennofs1: fixing that one thing solved the issue
<Sonarpulse> no slow AF try eval needed!
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<pie_> i bet they know everyone reads that as libass first
<pie_> i was looking in the wrong partof the docs apparently
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<Sonarpulse> pie_: there is also a libass
<dash> unix is mostly made of ass
<pie_> im still not sure if this does what i want. will this make me a binutils that runs on my machine but can deal with arm files?
<pie_> dash, apparently so.
<pie_> apparently all software is.
<pie_> except maybe seL4
<pie_> :P
<pie_> but that is too probably
<pie_> probably a fine piece of ass
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<dash> pie_: yeah i hear that's working with genode now
<dash> i should check it out
<pie_> huh ive heard the name but never looked at it
* pie_ looks up genode
<pie_> it doesnt have a wiki page :I
<pie_> im stuck in my self-constructed ivory cardboard castle
<simpson> pie_: Ivory cardboard *sandcastle*.
* simpson really mixing those metaphors
<Sonarpulse> dash: indeed
<Sonarpulse> pie_: yes
<pie_> Sonarpulse, oh ok
<Sonarpulse> it will give you a binutils with `build=native, host=native, target=arm-platform`
<pie_> says unknown flag --args :I
<Sonarpulse> --arg
<pie_> what doc page should i be looking at btw
<Sonarpulse> pie_: nixpkgs bleeding edge manual
<Sonarpulse> not sure where that is built though
<Sonarpulse> you could just build it yourself
<pie_> oh,
<pie_> s/,/./
<pie_> nix-build '<nixpkgs>' --arg crossPlatform '(import <nixpkgs/lib>).systems.qemu-system-arm' -A buildPackages.binutils just gives me my current binutils...
<Sonarpulse> that's...odd
<Sonarpulse> ahh
<Sonarpulse> crossSystem
<Sonarpulse> nix-build '<nixpkgs>' --arg crossSystem '(import <nixpkgs/lib>).systems.qemu-system-arm' -A buildPackages.binutils
<pie_> ah ok
<pie_> uuuuh... xD still the same
<Sonarpulse> :O
* pie_ shrugs, flailing helplessly
<pie_> $ nix-build '<nixpkgs>' --arg crossSystem '(import <nixpkgs/lib>).systems.qemu-system-arm' -A buildPackages.binutils
<pie_> /nix/store/iz98xp5p48jayn034wq89y30plpx5xns-binutils-2.27
<pie_> $ ./result/bin/objdump -D -b binary -m arm boot.bin [...omitted for brevity...] ./result/bin/objdump: can't use supplied machine arm
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<Sonarpulse> pie_: well...at least it's a different derivation?
<Sonarpulse> nix-build '<nixpkgs>' --arg crossSystem '(import <nixpkgs/lib>).systems.examples.aarch64-multiplatform' -A buildPackages.binutils
<Sonarpulse> for aarch64
<pie_> oh wait system.examples ?
<Sonarpulse> where is qumu-system-arm from?
<Sonarpulse> yeah
<pie_> might be related. then again i might have just guessed the path right heh
<Sonarpulse> system.examples
<pie_> i thought that was just some placeholder
<Sonarpulse> qemu-system-arm is not an existing thing in there is it?
<pie_> i got qemu-system-arm "from the internet"
<Sonarpulse> internet is full of lies stay away!
<pie_> PEBKAC
<pie_> id have expected an error at least :(
<Sonarpulse> yeah that's weird but --args is odd
<Sonarpulse> yeah look in
<Sonarpulse> lib/systems/examples.nix
<pie_> still the same derivation though with systems.examples.aarch64-multiplatform
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<pie_> sooooo
<pie_> somethings fucky
<Sonarpulse> perhaps my --args NAME NIX_EXPRSSION was too cute
<Sonarpulse> the one I pasted you should 100% be different
<pie_> yeah probaly getting ignored
<Sonarpulse> on nixos-unstable
<Sonarpulse> if you are on stable
<pie_> probably wrong args somehow?
<Sonarpulse> too old
<pie_> oh
<pie_> well i think my OS is on stable
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<Sonarpulse> pie_: yeah I rewrote all the cross stuff
<Sonarpulse> stable is lousy
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<pie_> :( :P
<Sonarpulse> it's cached
<Sonarpulse> one tiny nixpkgs-unstable binary won't hose your system!
<pikajude> what if it's a large binary :(
<pie_> Sonarpulse, ok so how do i
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<Sonarpulse> pikajude: it's not dynamic linked haskell :D
<pikajude> :O
<Sonarpulse> pie_: well nix-channel --add http//:...... scary-unstable
<Sonarpulse> something like that
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<pie_> i mean do i replace the thing in <> ?
<Sonarpulse> nix-build '<nixpkgs>' --arg crossSystem '(import <scary-unstable/lib>).systems.examples.aarch64-multiplatform' -A buildPackages.binutils
<Sonarpulse> yeah
<Sonarpulse> replace <nixpkgs> with <whatever-the-channel-was-named>
<pie_> huh...thats not working
<pie_> $ nix-build '<unstable>' --arg crossSystem '(import <unstable/lib>).systems.examples.aarch64-multiplatform' -A buildPackages.binutils
<pie_> error: file ‘unstable’ was not found in the Nix search path (add it using $NIX_PATH or -I)
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<Sonarpulse> pie_: hmm that would be some nix-channel wierdness
<Sonarpulse> can you do a nix-channel --list?
<pie_> well this is what you want from me: unstable https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstable
<Sonarpulse> and your $NIX_PATH ?
<pie_> nixpkgs=/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs:nixos-config=/etc/nixos/configuration.nix:/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels
<pie_> uh
<pie_> im not running as root though
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<Sonarpulse> pie_: that looks normal
<Sonarpulse> the root channels are read-only by everyone
<pie_> ah.
<Sonarpulse> brb
<pie_> well i dont have unstable added under rooy
<pie_> root
<pie_> but i shouldnt need to...
<Sonarpulse> if it is added as yourself should be fine
<Sonarpulse> maybe somebody else here knows nix-channel better than I
<Sonarpulse> brb
<pie_> o/
<pie_> yeah i was pretty sure using <> isnt that simple xP
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<LnL> you don't have ~/.nix-defexpr/channels in your NIX_PATH
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<dfordivam> Hello I am running kde on the nixos currently and would like to
<dfordivam> use the same on a vncserver session. I tried to use kde in vnc by
<dfordivam> putting call to start_kdeinit_wrapper in xstartup. but it doesnt
<dfordivam> seem to work.. does anyone know how to do this
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<pie_> LnL, is this a bug? im guessing already fixed in unstable? :P
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<pie_> Sonarpulse, yay it worked
<Sonarpulse> pie_: great!