<sphalerite> Hm, syncthing seems to depend on the go compiler because (I think) the debugging symbols or something contain its store paths, but that's not meant to happen, is it?
<simpson> Makes me think of (unrelated) https://github.com/gridsync/gridsync
<MoreTea> @sphalerite, well, the size of your volume is dynamic
<sphalerite> Hm. I searched for "go strip". Amongst the results, of course, is ...
<sphalerite> "How to Go to a Strip Club: 7 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow"
<sheenobu> aha
<sphalerite> Ugh, of course syncthing uses a custom build system thingy
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<sphalerite> If there are unnecessary derivations in a package's closure, is that sufficient reason for creating an issue, or is there just a bucket list of oversized closures somewhere?
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<MoreTea> @sphalerite, create a PR :)?
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<sphalerite> MoreTea: if I knew how to fix it that's what I'd do :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMftx
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c891ac Nikolay Amiantov: slade: init at 3.1.1.4
<sphalerite> How can I debug the error "cycle detected in the references of ‘/nix/store/0pq1r9ny2k7c99ib1zm2raialmdpsn5d-SDL2-2.0.4-dev’"? I'm trying to make SDL2 multiple-output, but it's not as simple as adding outputs = [ "out" "dev" ] by the looks of it
<sphalerite> Ah, I think I'm onto it
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<Sonarpulse> DavidEGrayson: you here by any chance?
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<Sonarpulse> I am wondering for the dontStrip changes is that supposed to just be the foreign package
<Sonarpulse> not the build = host != target package?
<sheenobu> Hey the repo sync finished!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] psychomario opened pull request #21398: Pythonpackage.voltron: init at 0.1.7 (master...pythonpackage.voltron) https://git.io/vMfq7
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aszlig pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMfm0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6af6cec aszlig: Revert "thin-provisioning-tools: init at 0.6.1"...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lheckemann opened pull request #21399: SDL2: split derivation (master...sdl2-split) https://git.io/vMfma
<sphalerite> Happy Christmas! There's my present... And I should really sleep.
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<jazzencat> The Steam build in nix fails with a fatal error: Failed to load steamui.so
<spacekitteh> hmm, i can't figure out what's wrong with my AOSP build setup on nixos. it's giving weird errors about jdk having an unsupported crypto mode. :\
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<sheenobu> I'm getting crypto errors on ubuntu building AOSP. I think the correct certs aren't installed and the AOSP build is trying to fetch from maven
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] johbo opened pull request #21400: Xournal: Darwin support (master...darwin-xournal) https://git.io/vMfOW
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] johbo opened pull request #21401: dmd: Fix build for Darwin (master...darwin-dmd) https://git.io/vMf3D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMfsJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a216fc4 Tristan Helmich: sonarr: 2.0.0.4409 -> 2.0.0.4427 (#21389)
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<DavidEGrayson> Sonarpulse: For the packages where I messed with dontStrip, they are not compilers so there is no concept of a target
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<sheenobu> spacekitteh, ever get AOSP built?
<spacekitteh> not yet
<spacekitteh> trying right now
<spacekitteh> keep getting weird java crypto provider errors
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<sheenobu> spacekitteh, i got it built on ubuntu. I had to manually install the certificate chain from maven.cyanogenmod.org
<spacekitteh> did you get "unsupported cipher type in native code" errors?
<sheenobu> huh. no. which version of the JDK are building with?
<spacekitteh> 8 (122 b4)
<sheenobu> ah. nearly the same here
<spacekitteh> got the same with 112b35 (i think it was 35)
<spacekitteh> are you using a nix expression or?
<sheenobu> spacekitteh, no this is on ubuntu
<spacekitteh> right but you can still use nix on it :3
<sheenobu> yeah
<sheenobu> i haven't touched that yet
<sheenobu> i never copied over the proprietary blobs from my nexus 5
<spacekitteh> i have a feeling this might have something to do with the chroot environment
<spacekitteh> hehe
<spacekitteh> if u use a nexus you should use copperheados :B
<sheenobu> my nexus 5 doesn't have a sim card in it anyway
<sheenobu> copperheados?
<spacekitteh> basically AOSP + pax + a bunch of other hardening features
<sheenobu> cool
<sheenobu> my nexus 5 is super cracked so I don't use it
<sheenobu> i have a galaxy s5
<spacekitteh> i have an s5 but it's dying so i bought a pixel xl
<spacekitteh> :3
<sheenobu> i don't want to use android anyway
<sheenobu> i just want to bootstrap a patched linux
<spacekitteh> hehe
<Sonarpulse> DavidEGrayson: that makes sense, just checking
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<sheenobu> oh geez now this nexus 5x won't boot
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<sheenobu> there we go
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<buttbutter> Nix noob here: Does services.xserver.synaptics.enable not work for some people? If I set it to false my touchpad still works.
<buttbutter> Maybe I should just enable it and then disable it through synaptics :^)
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<Sonarpulse> anybody know why nixos-unstable is stuck?
<Sonarpulse> buttbutter: there may be other drivers?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aszlig force-pushed nixpart from 8c3790b to d99ceae: https://git.io/MuFgyg
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/nixpart 0f6f3a9 aszlig: nixos: Add storage opt to fileSystems/swapDevices...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/nixpart f0f7869 aszlig: nixos: Add storage module for nixpart...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/nixpart 9efd301 aszlig: nixos/storage: Fix missing volgroupType stub...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aszlig opened pull request #21403: Nixpart (master...nixpart) https://git.io/vMfGD
<simpson> aszlig: Congrats. Thanks for your hard work.
<simpson> !m aszlig
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, aszlig!
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<aszlig> simpson: there is still lots of work ahead, so no congrats yet. i mean this feature was basically announced a year ago...
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<simpson> aszlig: It's still exciting and important progress.
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<aszlig> well, correction: one year was the nixcon announcement, the first commit was in 2014 X-D
<aszlig> anyway, it's about time to get this done
<buttbutter> I have services.xserver.synaptics.enable = true; and have the xorg.xf86iputsynaptics package installed. Yet when I run synclient I still get Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded? Any ideas?
<aszlig> but first: sleep :-) c'ya later
<buttbutter> The goal is just to disable the touchpad on my ThinkPad. Tried the xinput route as well, but xinput fails to differentiate between my trackpoint and touchpad and disables them both :C
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<msd> LnL: if wxGTK 1.8 needs a version of Carbon and Cocoa from 10.6 to build on Mac, can we specify this? If so, how?
<msd> LnL: there's some sort of type issue
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<LnL> that sounds a little strange, have you tried with MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET?
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<LnL> or the -mmacosx-version-min compiler flag
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMfnQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e4f30ac Johannes Bornhold: dmd: Fix build for Darwin
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1d67f6e Daiderd Jordan: Merge pull request #21401 from johbo/darwin-dmd...
<Mic92> clever: you are aware of this work? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21403
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21385: os-prober: init at 1.65 (release-16.09...osprober) https://git.io/vMvBS
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 created revert-21385-osprober (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vMfcJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/revert-21385-osprober 41bdfa6 Jörg Thalheim: Revert "os-prober: init at 1.65"
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #21404: Revert "os-prober: init at 1.65" (release-16.09...revert-21385-osprober) https://git.io/vMfcT
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMfck
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 9625cae Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #21404 from NixOS/revert-21385-osprober...
<the-kenny> buttbutter: you can disable the touchpad with xprop: xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Device Enabled" 0
<the-kenny> (adapt the name accordingly)
<the-kenny> Above is fine on a x230 and x260
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 deleted revert-21385-osprober at 41bdfa6: https://git.io/vMfcO
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #21405: firefox, thunderbird: add updateScript (master...firefox-update-script) https://git.io/vMfcB
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMfCR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a737eff J Phani Mahesh: python:html5lib: 0.999 -> 0.999999999...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 757d10a Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #21299 from phanimahesh/fix-LWN-vuln-709146...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh created revert-21299-fix-LWN-vuln-709146 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vMfC9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/revert-21299-fix-LWN-vuln-709146 3fad672 Frederik Rietdijk: Revert "python:html5lib: 0.999 -> 0.999999999"
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMfWL
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5319587 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.pandas: 0.19.1 -> 0.19.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3d455ac Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.xlwt: 1.0.0 -> 1.1.2
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 4z3 opened pull request #21406: exim: exim-4.87 -> exim-4.88 (master...bump-exim) https://git.io/vMfWK
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 916a37c Michael Raskin: libreoffice-fresh: 5.2.3.3 -> 5.2.4.2
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMfW9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 352e167 zimbatm: exim: 4.87 -> 4.88 for CVE-2016-9963
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMfWd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bec4794 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.u-msgpack-python: init at 2.3.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c1dd42e Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.webencodings: init at 0.5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f5e022 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.pytest_expect: init at 1.1.0
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh deleted revert-21299-fix-LWN-vuln-709146 at 3fad672: https://git.io/vMfWb
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMfWx
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 d6bff30 zimbatm: exim: 4.87 -> 4.87.1 for CVE-2016-9963
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4383aa2 Karn Kallio: ats2 : advance to latest version 0.2.13
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 4z3 closed pull request #21406: exim: 4.87 -> 4.88 (master...bump-exim) https://git.io/vMfWK
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] deepfire opened pull request #21407: emacs-packages: init haskell-unicode-input-method at 20110905 (master...haskell-unicode-input-method) https://git.io/vMf83
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<spacekitteh> hey can someone do me a favour and run this? "openssl ciphers ALL:-EXP:-SRP:-SEED:-CAMELLIA:-DSS:-RC2:-DES-CBC-MD5:-DES-CBC3-MD5 | grep DH-DSS-AES256-GCM-SHA384" and tell me the results?
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<spacekitteh> Mic92: yo can you try? i think i've had a eureka moment
<MichaelRaskin> Erm
<MichaelRaskin> Long result is long
<spacekitteh> MichaelRaskin: alright, that's all i needed to know. thanks!!
<spacekitteh> are you using 1.0.2j?
<MichaelRaskin> Yes
<spacekitteh> alright, cool
<MichaelRaskin> This is from NixPkgs but I may lack some NixOS configs
<MichaelRaskin> Ah no mainline NixOS also says the same
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<simendsjo> I only have 200M on my /boot partition, but it seems nixos wants to use more than this. Is there a way to completely remove old generations from /boot? I've tried nix-collect-garbage and nix-store --optimize without any luck, and now I cannot upgrade anything.
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<MichaelRaskin> I thought the next attempt to install something to boot should remove the old versions
<MichaelRaskin> But maybe the order is not correct…
<sphalerite> simendsjo: have you deleted the generations?
<simendsjo> Yes, I've tried running nix-env --delete-generations old
<sphalerite> I think you need to delete old system generations specifically
<sphalerite> so sudo nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/system --list-generations to see what's there
<sphalerite> then the same but with --delete-generations 1-4 6 to delete the generations you don't need. Then try gc'ing again
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<simendsjo> Looks like it's working, but I guess it might take a while. Unfortunately `old` deletes everything but the last, so I hope I haven't done something wrong and brick my system now.
<simendsjo> Thanks sphalerite
<MichaelRaskin> is you current-system equal to booted-system?
<spacekitteh> gchristensen: /window 2
<spacekitteh> whoops.
<simendsjo> I was a bit quick there. list-generations now only lists the current generation, but collect-garbage haven't cleaned /boot.
<MichaelRaskin> Also, symlinking /run/booted-system to a name suitable for a profile generation would do the same as nixos-rebuild build with the booted version
<MichaelRaskin> Try nixos-rebuild boot again?
<srhb> simendsjo: nix-collect-garbage --delete-older-than 60d --dry-run might be something you want next time.
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<srhb> with sudo of course, for clearing boot.
<simendsjo> nixos-rebuild boot worked. Now I'm only using 18M :) Thanks
<MichaelRaskin> Do you have /run/booted-system among the remaining generations?
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<simendsjo> Nope. I'll try a reboot now to see if my system still works.
<MichaelRaskin> Erm!
<MichaelRaskin> I would try to be safe
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<MichaelRaskin> ln -s $(readlink -f /run/booted-system) /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-99-link
<srhb> Living on the edge. :-)
<MichaelRaskin> Then nixos-rebuild boot again
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #21337: flashplayer: 11.2.202.644 -> 24.0.0.186 [Critical security fix] (master...flashplayer_24.0.0.186) https://git.io/vMf8x
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMf8h
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a623ada zimbatm: flashplayer: removed obsolete files
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #21375: gitlab-runner: 1.8.0 -> 1.9.0 (master...gitlab-runner-1.9.0) https://git.io/vMeH0
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<sphalerite> Shouldn't there be some kind of hook on the system profile so that the boot loader config is regenerated when generations are deleted?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7cd5ef7 Peter Simons: rocksdb-haskell: enable Hydra builds on Darwin...
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<sphalerite> can I get a sandboxed nix-shell at all?
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<toogley> mpickering: regarding the pdf's: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21391
<sphalerite> hm, nix-prefetch-url --unpack doesn't work with zips if unzip isn't installed. Is this an acceptable impurity?
<sphalerite> it's also inconsistent with fetchurl
<sphalerite> err never mind that last bit
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b20fdff Bjørn Forsman: nixos/prometheus: make scrapeConfigs.*.static_configs.*.labels optional...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip e30ee35 Frederik Rietdijk: Python 3.6 is the default Python 3 interpreter
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 426b2ed Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.u-msgpack-python: use python.interpreter
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 6 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMfu1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 a1f9b59 J Phani Mahesh: python:html5lib: 0.999 -> 0.999999999...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 438a5a6 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.html5lib: fix missing buildInputs and tests...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 8df0972 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.pytest_expect: init at 1.1.0...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 63b0c9d Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.txaio: 2.5.1 -> 2.5.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8916131 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.xlwt: fix patch hash
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2469d0b Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.buttersink: only with python 2.x
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f2df4ce Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.xgboost: only with Python 3.x
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<clever> Mic92: thats new, i'll need to look into it more
<Sonarpulse> DavidEGrayson: what is the rebuild risk with dontStrip?
<Sonarpulse> I'd think native packages stay dontStrip = false already
<ToxicFrog> So say I have an /etc/nixos directory not in /etc (e.g. in ~/devel/nixos/), and I want to do a test build to make sure I haven't horrible screwed it up
<ToxicFrog> What's the best way to do this?
<ToxicFrog> nixos-rebuild appears to assume it should always look in /etc/nixos
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<ToxicFrog> Aha, found it
<ToxicFrog> NIXOS_CONFIG=$(pwd)/configuration.nix dry-build
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<ToxicFrog> Ok, now what I want is 'nixos-rebuild diff'
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<xeviox> what is the idomatic way to install rust in a nix expression? Is it possible to use rustup?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mdaiter opened pull request #21410: wxMac: fixed main compile on 10.6 (master...wxMacFix) https://git.io/vMf2I
<mpickering> toogley: Thanks.. I wanted to read the manual on my tablet which doesn't have mobile internet access but anyway I read it now
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<Samvh> has anyone else experienced problems with the built-in slim theme for login?
<Samvh> I get just a light blue screen
<Samvh> I can type my username and passwd and then it proceeds
<Samvh> but the weird thing is that first the theme displayed fine, and at some point it just didn't show up anymore
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<Samvh> and also sometimes after I login xmonad seems unresponsive to my input (keybindings), I don't know if that could be related
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<ToxicFrog> Ok, for nixos-rebuild diff I've come up with: nixos-rebuild build; diff -ru --color=always /run/current-system/ result/ | less -R
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 a54d84e zimbatm: Revert "pythonPackages.webencodings: init at 0.5"...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 0ee1399 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.webencodings: init at 0.5...
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<Sonarpulse> how does one write an eval-time hydra test?
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<Sonarpulse> also how can I test all the derivations in release-cross.nix ?
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<Sonarpulse> away not but idling for a response :)
<Sonarpulse> s/not/now
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 277080f Vladimír Čunát: openssh: security 7.3p1 -> 7.4p1...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 683f255 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.datrie: add missing dependencies
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6cf9b1c Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.magic: broken
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c9e642c Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.zipfile36: disable on python 2.x
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 0042823 taku0: flashplayer: 11.2.202.644 -> 24.0.0.186 [Critical security fix] (#21337)...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 435b5f8 zimbatm: flashplayer: removed obsolete files...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 925c597 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.mwclient: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.3...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip 7e4b09d Frederik Rietdijk: Python 3.6 is the default Python 3 interpreter
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<stkj> does someone knows why the telegram desktop application does not support native notifications?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] elitak opened pull request #21411: remmina: add icon packages as soft deps (master...remmina) https://git.io/vMfrq
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<sboo> How do I install make? I've tried installing stdenv.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] obadz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMfru
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7b2a37f Eric Litak: remmina: add icon packages as soft deps (#21411)
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<stkj> os
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<viric> sboo: it's named gnumake or so
<sboo> viric: thanks! had even tried GNU-make lol
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<sboo> viric: Is there a way to map installed executables to the packages that install them? I have the same issue trying to use Cabal.
<viric> there used to be a tool doing that
<viric> command-not-found make
<viric> run that
<Sonarpulse> heh every other nixos-unstable release that features comes and goes from my shell
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<Sonarpulse> viric: btw remember when I was talking to you about my grand plan for cross compiling?
<Sonarpulse> I finally made it
<Sonarpulse> testing now
<Sonarpulse> Merry christmas, everyone
<viric> Sonarpulse: I don't remember a single word
<viric> i Bon Nadal a tothom
<rly> Is there a way to run dropbox as a service?
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<sboo> viric: Command-not-found fails with "unable to open database file". And I have permission to access /nix/var. http://pastebin.com/3M6wNveK
<viric> sboo: no idea. I never had troubles with ti
<viric> it
<viric> sboo: do you use a channel?
<rly> command-not-found should obviously return a better error message, since this is a FAQ.
<sboo> viric: idk, pretty new to nixos
<sboo> viric: nix-channel --list is empty
<sboo> i had tried installing a newer version, but can't find it on nox
<rly> At some point command-not-found functionality was also disabled.
<sboo> viric: nox command-not-found is empty
<sboo>
<rly> I think it was reenabled, though.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vdemeester opened pull request #21412: docker-compose: 1.8.0 -> 1.9.0 (master...docker-compose_1_9_0) https://git.io/vMfoq
<viric> sboo: use a channel
<viric> no idea about nox
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<sboo> viric: i get ni command-not-found
<sboo> error: selector ‘command-not-found’ matches no derivations
<sboo>
<sboo> viric: okay, i'll set up a channel
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<viric> last commit on kdenlive, 23th of October? mpf. https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive
<viric> https://commit.kde.org/ fails...
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<viric> mpf.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21409: os-prober: init at 1.65 (master...osprober) https://git.io/vMfBQ
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<Sonarpulse> though feel free not to be curious :)
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<lpcwstr> Hey, I'm curious if anyone knows something about the origin of the names "Nix" and "Hydra". E.g. Pluto has two moons called Nix and Hydra or Nix could originate from Unix (*nix)
<Sonarpulse> did not know about moons
<Sonarpulse> everything else is greek
<Sonarpulse> so Nix i guess is greek too
<MichaelRaskin> I think choosing Hydra name was influenced by the moon set
<ToxicFrog> Sonarpulse: Hydra is a creature in greek mythology; a venomous, multi-headed serpent that would grow back two heads for every one that it lost.
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<ToxicFrog> Based on that, Nix may be a misspelling of Nyx, the greek goddess of the night?
<ben> It's a metaphor for how every time you fix a build error, two new pop up, right?
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<ToxicFrog> hah
<MichaelRaskin> ToxicFrog: The Pluto moon is spelled Nix in English anyway
<MichaelRaskin> Apparently the astronomers did consider nameing the moon Nyx, but there was already an asteroid called Nyx, so the spelling got changed
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<lpcwstr> Thanks for all the input :) So Nix/Nyx and Hydra are most likely originating from the Greek mythology? (But we don't know for certain, right?)
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<lpcwstr> ben: Haha, n1
<MichaelRaskin> Well, for Hydra there are two options (direct and via the Pluto moon), I am not sure about their relative weight
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<MichaelRaskin> For Nix niksnut have said that the meaning of «nothing» also seemed to be a nice property of the name
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<Sonarpulse> ToxicFrog: that I know
<Sonarpulse> but what is Nix?
<Sonarpulse> Just a moon?
<Sonarpulse> oh
<Sonarpulse> I should read after ping :)
<lpcwstr> MichaelRaskin: ok, thx - Nothing seems interesting as well :) And I didn't know that the moon Nix was named after Nyx from the Greek mythology (thanks for that hint)
<MichaelRaskin> Well, thank ToxicFrog for the last part — I am just good enough at quick lookups to join or not join some claim.
<lpcwstr> ok, thanks ToxicFrog (and of course everyone else who was replying)
<lpcwstr> Btw do we know where the translation Nix->Nothing comes from? (German?)
<MichaelRaskin> Wiktionary says that this spelling actually works in English
<MichaelRaskin> niks from the nickname works in Dutch (Eelco Dolstra is from Netherlands)
<alphor> Nichts is nothing, in german.
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<lpcwstr> ok, did edolstra come up with that name (I'm sadly not really familiar with the origin of nix*)?
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<MichaelRaskin> He is the original author and the core of Nix and parts of NixOS (and a minimal NixPkgs) were implemented as his PhD thesis
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* ToxicFrog tries to figure out how to get a user-unit to start automatically
<ToxicFrog> Adding systemd.user.services.syncthing.wantedBy = [ "multi-user.target" ]; doesn't help
<ToxicFrog> I can't `systemctl enable` it because the unit file generated by Nix doesn't have a valid [install] section
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<lpcwstr> MichaelRaskin: Awesome, thank you guys :) I'll include some keywords so that others interested in the origin of the name can hopefully find this log via a search engine - I hope no one minds :D (Nix name origin; NixOS name origin; Hydra name origin; Greek mythology; Pluto moon; Nyx)
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<ToxicFrog> It looks like what adding the wantedBy line does is add a symlink to it to /nix/store/<hash>-user-units/multi-user.target.wants/syncthing.service, but that doesn't seem to be respected (maybe because there's no "multi-user.target" user-unit? Not terribly familiar with how user and system units interact.)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMfiU
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 661b5a9 Vladimír Čunát: Revert "openssh: security 7.3p1 -> 7.4p1"...
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<ToxicFrog> Aha. I think perhaps I want default.target?
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<ToxicFrog> Ok, yes. syncthing needs to be wantedBy default.target, and syncthing-inotify needs to be wantedBy syncthing. (using "wants" instead of "wantedBy" does not work for some reason)
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<Claas> o/, is someone using a wacom tablet on nixos ?, im unable to configure my "Wacom Intuos S 2 Pad" because xsetwacom is not finding it, tablet works out of the box but configuration e.g. resizing the tablet area
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<MichaelRaskin> Hm, it may be that you the user lack access to the USB device
<Claas> ah, ye let me check
<MichaelRaskin> lsusb and /dev/bus/usb should help checking
<Claas> the tablet is listed in /proc/bus/input/devices , i can map the tablet to a screen with xsetwacom if i use the name from devices, nevertheless xsetwacom is not recognizing tablet settings
<MichaelRaskin> I dunno, I am lazy, I usually just strace software and look for EPERM/EACCES
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<MichaelRaskin> ENOENT is hard to filter, because there are too many legitimate ENOENT's
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #21414: Release cross (master...release-cross) https://git.io/vMfiS
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<Claas> http://pastebin.com/mWy37SF2 , maybe its device specific ?
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<MichaelRaskin> And "Mode" "Absolute" is correct?
<MichaelRaskin> I know nothing about Wacom tablets…
<Claas> no idea, first time im using one on linux
<MichaelRaskin> Well, absolute mode is like a touchscreen and relative mode is like a touchpad
<MichaelRaskin> If you can switch the mode but nothing else, maybe there is incomplete protocol compatibility
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<Claas> i changed the mode but nothing further happened
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<MichaelRaskin> You mean, the behaviour doesn't change?
<MichaelRaskin> Hm, we have half a year old wacom support software packages…
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<Claas> the behaviour remains unchanged, but its functioning correctly
<MichaelRaskin> So the mode isn't changed…
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<Claas> the option states its changed
<MichaelRaskin> Hmmm
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<Claas> also the tool provided by libwacom states a different tablet name than written in /prob/bus/input/devices
<Claas> *proc
<MichaelRaskin> Are you running 16.09. unstable channel or master checkout?
<Claas> 16.09
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMfPL
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6b2ead9 Michael Raskin: libwacom: 0.19 -> 0.22
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2c616b0 Michael Raskin: xf86-input-wacom: 0.32.0 -> 0.34.0
<MichaelRaskin> And I guess the default kernel?
<Claas> yep
<MichaelRaskin> Sigh…
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #21415: Normalize bootstrapping (master...normalize-boot) https://git.io/vMfPt
<Claas> michaelraskin nvm, im running 17.03
<MichaelRaskin> So unstable channel, I guess
<Claas> yep, your writing let me thought that 16.09 is still the unstable channel
<MichaelRaskin> What about updating kernel to the latest (4.9) and checking out the master form git to build just xf86_input_wacom from there?
<MichaelRaskin> Or maybe just getting the very latest master to check just the userspace update?
<MichaelRaskin> (yep, I have updated it as we are chatting)
<Claas> allright
<Claas> -l
<MichaelRaskin> nix-build -o ~/xf86_input_wacom -f /path/to/checkout -A xf86_input_wacom should be OK
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] cstrahan opened pull request #21416: mesos: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.0 (master...mesos-1.1.0) https://git.io/vMfXe
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<Claas> MichaelRaskin: im a bit lost since i never had to build something from master, could you explain the process ?
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<MichaelRaskin> Step 1. git clone https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs /path/to/nixpkgs
<MichaelRaskin> Step 2. nix-build -o ~/xf86_input_wacom -f /path/to/nixpkgs -A xf86_input_wacom
<MichaelRaskin> Step 3. ~/xf86_input_wacom/bin/xsetwacom
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Baughn opened pull request #21417: ddclient: Make it work. (master...master) https://git.io/vMfXG
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<Claas> it states unknown flag "-f"
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<Claas> ok got it
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<cstrahan> Happy Holidays, everyone!
<Claas> MichaelRaskin: still not working
<LnL> MichaelRaskin: -f ia only for nix-env
<LnL> is
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<MichaelRaskin> Ah right.
<MichaelRaskin> I have too many layers of convenient shell scripts
<LnL> just nix-build /path/to/nixpkgs -A hello
<MichaelRaskin> Claas: so you now have 0.34.0 version of xsetwacom and it doesn't do any better?
<Claas> MichaelRaskin: yes
<LnL> or you can leave out the path if you cd to the nixpkgs repo
<MichaelRaskin> LnL: -o is useful, though
<LnL> is that for the result symlink?
<MichaelRaskin> Claas: I would probably try 4.9.0 kernel just to be sure…
<MichaelRaskin> LnL: yes
<LnL> right
<MichaelRaskin> Claas: and switching mode doesn't change anything?
<Claas> seems like that
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMfXM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master da70d3d Linus Heckemann: SDL2: split derivation
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar closed pull request #21399: SDL2: split derivation (master...sdl2-split) https://git.io/vMfma
<MichaelRaskin> Does upstream have any discussion about your model in the forums?
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<Claas> MichaelRaskin: only 4_8 is currently packaged
<Claas> using that instead
<MichaelRaskin> Ah, the channel is that far back
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar closed pull request #21368: ncurses: Create ABI-version'd libtinfo (staging...patch-23) https://git.io/vMfXF
<MichaelRaskin> I think my 4.9.0 kernel was built from NixPkgs on 11th December
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<Claas> alright, rebooting
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<Claas_> MichaelRaskin: nothing changed
<MichaelRaskin> Unfortunately, not so surprising
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<ertes> hi… when i run "systemctl suspend" as a user, it seems to suspend, but it comes back immediately… any ideas?
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<Sonarpulse> cstrahan: thanks!
<Sonarpulse> yeah shut the lid
<Sonarpulse> and still need to get proper IRC notifications
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