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<gchristensen> anyone know the process of _deleting_ a package? I'd like to drop apacheHttpd_2_2
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<dash> gchristensen: remove it and see if anyone complains? ;-)
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<gchristensen> yes, sure, but what about changelogs / stable / etc?
<LnL> nothing special if it's just on master, I think
<gchristensen> it'll get to stable though
<LnL> for the next release you mean?
<gchristensen> yeah
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<LnL> no idea if we have a changelog for that
<LnL> but for deleted packages that can probably just be generated
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<LnL> gchristensen: perhaps we could have something like aliases.nix but for deprecated/removed packages
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<gchristensen> graveyard.nix
<barrucadu> Is it possible to see why something is in the store? I have about 5 different versions of ghc there, which remain after `nix-collect-garbage -d`, and I'd like to know why
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<LnL> barrucadu: nix-store --query --referrers-closure <path>
<barrucadu> Thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMkOP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 825c0d8 Robin Gloster: terminator: fix build and use buildPythonApplication
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3f426f6 Robin Gloster: terminator: 0.98 -> 1.0
<barrucadu> I seem to have a lot of /nix/store/HASH-nixos-system-HOSTNAME-VERSION{,.drv} stuff (2 for 16.09, 4 for 16.03), which is keeping around a lot of old packages. `nix-env --list-generations` only shows one, why might old things persist?
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<gchristensen> barrucadu: you probabl ywant nix-collect-garbage --delete-older-than 30d (30d = 30 days, you can adjust this)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/63f7d535725e6ef6053c0282b942b7304e18af1c
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 63f7d53 Franz Pletz: libgig: Configure script warns about missing libuuid
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/8837b4a1c66b41be096d947bed159ff22a62a556
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8837b4a Franz Pletz: libivykis: 0.39 -> 0.40
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMk3N
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8376f5c oida: prometheus-snmp-exporter: init at v0.1.0
<clever> barrucadu: also, look into nix-store --query --roots
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<dhananjay> I've a small change to nixpkg that I'm trying to get merged, but the "nox-review wip" throws a traceback on my machine. Not entirely sure what the problem is.. traceback here https://gist.github.com/dbalan/7129ad02b4af61e99857c47a7f87654f
<dhananjay> Its strange, reports pkgs/development/compilers/crystal/default.nix: needs merge -- which I didn't touch.
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<gchristensen> oh, dhananjay, I actually have a patch for that locally already
<gchristensen> dhananjay: but it looks like you need to rebase your branch on to origin/master after fetching
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMksE
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 655f704 Franz Pletz: libmilter: 8.14.8 -> 8.15.2
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<dhananjay> gchristensen: I don't understand. I've an unstaged change over local master, which is in sync with origin/master
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<gchristensen> yes but nox merges your changes with origin/master
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] kierdavis opened pull request #21485: multimc: update to Java 8 (master...multimc-java8) https://git.io/vMks1
<dhananjay> gchristensen: but how can it merge uncommited changes?
<dhananjay> (assuming merge is git-merge)
<gchristensen> I don't know
<gchristensen> but to fix you need to rebase against origin/master
<dhananjay> git stash; git rebase origin/master; git stash pop
<dhananjay> already did this.
<gchristensen> cd ~/.nox/nixpkgs/ ; git fetch origin; git reset --hard origin/master -- try that
<dhananjay> ah. so nox has its own tree? let me try.
<gchristensen> yeah
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<dhananjay> it works gchristensen!
<dhananjay> thanks!
<dhananjay> <gchristensen> oh, dhananjay, I actually have a patch for that locally already
<dhananjay> are you talking about shellinabox?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMkG3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3c104ca Franz Pletz: gnupg: build with sqlite to enable TOFU...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #21485: multimc: update to Java 8 (master...multimc-java8) https://git.io/vMks1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dbalan opened pull request #21486: Shellinabox 2.19 -> 2.20 (master...shellinabox-2.20) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21486
<dhananjay> opened a PR, feel free to ignore it if already in some tree.
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<gchristensen> thank you for the help, dhananjay :D
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<rardiol> anyone has any guesses on why nix-prefetch-url -A gives a corrupted archive but wgetting the same url works?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMkZ4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c2a979f Franz Pletz: cryptsetup: 1.7.0 -> 1.7.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3e8bb72 Robin Gloster: cryptsetup: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1cbb04e Franz Pletz: iproute: 4.7.0 -> 4.8.0
<sheenobu> hrm. looks like nixos hydra-init.service doesn't respect ~/.pgpass ?
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<sheenobu> ah looks like i figured it out
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #21487: thunderbird-bin: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0 [Critical security fix] (master...thunderbird-bin-45.6.0) https://git.io/vMkZP
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #21488: thunderbird: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0 [Critical security fix] (master...thunderbird-45.6.0) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21488
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<sheenobu> how do you do ulimit stuff on nixos?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21486: Shellinabox 2.19 -> 2.20 (master...shellinabox-2.20) https://git.io/vMkGc
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21482: qemu: fix CVE-2016-9911, CVE 2016-9921 and 2016-9922 (master...master) https://git.io/vMkUo
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<joepie91> sheenobu: do you mean in a service/daemon, or in a binary you run from the terminal>
<joepie91> ?*
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21487: thunderbird-bin: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0 [Critical security fix] (master...thunderbird-bin-45.6.0) https://git.io/vMkZP
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/f5ca9a421263...f4568952d664
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 373fb99 taku0: thunderbird-bin: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f456895 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #21487 from taku0/thunderbird-bin-45.6.0...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/f4568952d664...0e400de967dd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a1f595c taku0: thunderbird: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0e400de Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #21488 from taku0/thunderbird-45.6.0...
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<sheenobu> joepie91, in a service/daemon. caddy, for example
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<joepie91> sheenobu: ah :) that works the same as anywhere else (with systemd services)
<joepie91> sheenobu: iirc it's the LimitNOFILE option?
<joepie91> (in the service file)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/8cc69905f383...68f2b18aaad5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 27c21a2 taku0: thunderbird: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 68f2b18 taku0: thunderbird-bin: 45.5.1 -> 45.6.0...
<sheenobu> joepie91, oh i guess I would override the services.caddy stuff to include LimitNOFile. not sure how to add additional systemd options to existing nixos services
<joepie91> sheenobu: hmm, one moment.
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<joepie91> sheenobu: so you could probably override that?
<joepie91> (and string-concat with the original or such? my Nix-fu is not great yet)
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<gchristensen> O.o 319
<sheenobu> ech. go2nix doesn't work with glide so packaging this is a pain
<joepie91> gchristensen: ohai - are you at 33C3?
<sheenobu> I can't just run "glide install" in a preBuild
<gchristensen> joepie91: I wish :( too far.
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<joepie91> aw :(
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<Chobbes> Has anybody gotten ghc to build on ARM?
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<gchristensen> good night, #nixos :) hopefully someone will step up and take over Ceph in the night.
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<eqyiel[m]> how do I escape ${FOO} inside of '' '' (for a bash script)?
<williamyaoh> eqyiel[m]: '' ''${FOO}''
<eqyiel[m]> oh, my bad, it's in the manual under strings
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<eqyiel[m]> williamyaoh: thank you
<DavidEGrayson> Heyo, if I have a directory full of files with names like ydk9l45111iki0r6qs5pha2mpf5a806i-mpfr-3.1.4.tar.xz (because they are copies of Nix derivations), is there an easy way to remove the hash part and the dash (so they are recognized by a script that uses them)?
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<DavidEGrayson> I'll just write the shell script
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<toogley> DavidEGrayson: i'm not sure if i understand you problem correctly. but what about "*mpfr-3.1.4.tar.xz" ?
<toogley> DavidEGrayson: the * should expand to the hash (at least it does in bash)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] retrry opened pull request #21489: rustc, cargo, rustRegistry updates (master...master) https://git.io/vMkgO
<c74d> What's the normal way to get data out of a NixOS VM?
<c74d> the sort of VM started with `run-<hostname>-vm`
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<clever> c74d: one sec
<clever> c74d: inside the guest, you should see a /tmp/shared and/or /tmp/xchg i think
<c74d> `findmnt` claims that there are 9P mounts `/tmp/xchg` and `/tmp/shared`, but `ls /tmp` shows none such
<clever> c74d: those map to folders on the host
<clever> c74d: does /tmp have other mount flags set?
<c74d> oh
<clever> something may have mounted /tmp over /tmp/xchg
<c74d> yes, I'm guessing those got mounted on the root FS, then a tmpfs got mounted over them
<clever> yeah
<c74d> (I have boot.tmpOnTmpfs=true)
<c74d> I'll unmount that
<clever> -virtfs local,path=${SHARED_DIR:-$TMPDIR/xchg},security_model=none,mount_tag=shared \
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<clever> the /tmp/shared mount goes to /tmp/xchg, or $SHARED_DIR if you set that
<clever> -virtfs local,path=$TMPDIR/xchg,security_model=none,mount_tag=xchg \
<clever> and xchg goes directly to /tmp/xchg
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<c74d> oh, of course I can't just unmount /tmp without wiping out various sockets and stuff
<clever> id set it to false, and rebuild+re-start the guest
<c74d> I suppose I should file an issue report
<clever> yeah
<clever> c74d: i think you need to flag /tmp as being needed for boot
<clever> then it should mount them in the correct order, within the initrd
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMkrX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2f977b4 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.bleach: 1.4.3 -> 1.5.0, closes #21450...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #21450: python-packages: bleach 1.4.3 -> 1.5 (master...patch-22) https://git.io/vMkrD
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# ls -ltrh /tmp/nix-vm.XYAtZeEz7d/xchg/
<clever> c74d: hmmm, it wound up in here for me
<clever> ah, i see why
<c74d> I had found the xchg directory on the host, but didn't remember tmpOnTmpfs without your help
<clever> i believe systemd and related tools will do their best to mount things in the correct order
<clever> but the neededForBoot stuff gets bumped to the front of the queue, and /tmp may get left behind
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<clever> and i can confirm tmpOnTmpfs breaks it
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<clever> systemd.additionalUpstreamSystemUnits = optional config.boot.tmpOnTmpfs "tmp.mount";
<clever> and systemd gets in the way once more!
<clever> there is no way to do this during the initrd
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMkoy
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 5b550e3 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.bleach: 1.4.3 -> 1.5.0, closes #21450...
<rly> Why does nixos-rebuild switch -I nixpkgs=/src/nixpkgs-channels build webkit from scratch?
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<c74d> I tried disabling boot.tmpOnTmpfs and specifying `fileSystems."/tmp" = { device = "tmpfs"; fsType = "tmpfs"; neededForBoot = true; }`; the 9P directories show up fine now, but there's no tmpfs at `/tmp`
<clever> systemd could be fighting you more
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<c74d> which I guess is acceptable, unless that means it will fill up with garbage unless manually cleaned
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<rly> clever: any idea on my issue?
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<clever> rly: which revision is checked out in that dir?
<rly> clever: 741213d7b3756a1d33ac39b2b626c297f2290aed
<clever> should be identical to release-16.09's channel
<clever> does 'git diff' show any changes that could impact webkit?
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<rly> clever: it is identical and no.
<clever> not sure what the cause could be then
<rly> I would like to see some finite set of conditions documented when it is supposed to work.
<clever> i would expect that to work as well
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<rly> clever: environment variables take lower precedence, right?
<clever> yeah, -I will override $NIX_PATH
<dmj`> ghc 7.8.2 was omitted?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aneeshusa opened pull request #21491: googleAuthenticator: 1.0 -> 1.03 (master...upgrade-google-authenticator-to-1.03) https://git.io/vMk6h
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vdemeester opened pull request #21492: idea-ultimate: 2016.3.1 -> 2016.3.2 (master...idea-ultimate_2016_3_2) https://git.io/vMkiY
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] RonnyPfannschmidt opened pull request #21493: enpass backport #21436 to Release 16.09 (release-16.09...release-16.09-enpass-backport) https://git.io/vMki3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas closed pull request #21405: firefox, thunderbird: add updateScript (master...firefox-update-script) https://git.io/vMfcB
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<manveru> shanemikel: you mean `nix-channel --update` without running `nixos-rebuild switch`?
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<shanemikel> no, not using nixos, but nixpkgs on darwin (I know, ##nix-darwin, but I figured this was a nix/nixpkgs specific question; is there a channel for that?)
<shanemikel> thanks, `nix-channel --update` is exactly what I needed. No wonder my ghcHead was so old...
<LnL> nix-channel --update only updates the channel, not anything else that's installed
<shanemikel> sure, and `nix-env --upgrade` for the other stuff.. I didn't realize that the second command didn't also update the channel
<LnL> nope, it just looks at your user profile
<shanemikel> does adding/removing libs and tools from my haskell package override (as per the nixpkgs wiki in ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix), trigger a whole rebuild of ghc? and should I keep the build files around for this purpose (I guess by doing nix-build instead of straight install and keeping the `result` symlink around)?
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<LnL> not sure what you mean, are you talking about ghcWithPackages?
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<shanemikel> exactly
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<LnL> the result of that is just a wrapper, you won't rebuild ghc itself
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<LnL> but if you want to make sure certain haskell packages are not garbage collected you need a ghc that uses them in your user profile or a result symlink
<deepfire> anyone seen latest stack failing to find executables (with Nix support enabled) ?
<mahe2> Hi, how can I access the future out path of my derivation? I mean there is $out at shell level, how to access that within nix?
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<deepfire> (latest stack as in "coming from latest nixpkgs")
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<LnL> mahe2: just convert the package to a string, eg. "${pkgs.hello}/bin/hello"
<deepfire> mahe2: is that nix-store --query --use-output ?
<deepfire> oh, "within nix"
<mahe2> LnL: this works for derivations already defined, but how can I access the derivation I'm defining using mkDerivation?
<LnL> mahe2: let foo = stdenv.mkDerivation ...; "${foo}/bin/foo"
<LnL> I mean let ... in
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<deepfire> it'll fully evaluate (force) the derivation, so this can't be recursive
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<deepfire> ..and I have a nagging suspicion that mahe2 wants to use the output path of the derivation /within/ the derivation..
<mahe2> deepfire: exactly. Sorry, I'm not a native english speaker ;)
<deepfire> mahe2, the output path is a function of the entire derivation
<mahe2> I think I can workaround this but knowing if its possible would be useful nevertheless
<deepfire> mahe2, so you cannot have that path, until you have the whole object evaluated
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<deepfire> nix will let you express the idea, but will go into an infinite loop upon execution..
<joko> Hello, is anyone using libvirtd with virt-manager? It seems I cannot create any VM
<deepfire> mahe2, can you tell us, what problem are you solving?
<mahe2> deepfire: ok, thanks for clarifying. Does make sense indeed
<LnL> why can't you use $out if it's inside the drv?
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<deepfire> LnL, aren't those temporary substitutes?
<deepfire> that is, are they final paths?
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<deepfire> maybe they are, hmm, in which case -- mahe2, I'm sorry for misleading you!
<LnL> that's the /nix/store path, the drv is evaluated at this point because you can only use that in the builder
<mahe2> deepfire: I need to know the path for a shell script I'm putting inside $out
<deepfire> mahe2, what LnL2 says -- $out/bin/foo is your path
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<deepfire> oh, sorry, LnL : -)
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<LnL> this works for example: runCommand "foo" {} ''mkdir -p $out/bin echo $out > $out/foo''
<LnL> cat $(nix-build ..)/foo # /nix/store/...
<LnL> the activation script of nixos also uses something like this to activate itself
<mahe2> I have the shell script inside a Nix String. $out is not substituted when used within that String. It seems to work only inside a build phase
<deepfire> mahe2: hmm, and which phase do you want to refer to $out in?
<LnL> mahe2: you'll have to substitute then, let me look for an example
<mahe2> deepfire: within postFixup. What I'm doing there is just echo '${theNixString}' >> $out/bin/theScript
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMk7s
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 774435d Peter Simons: maude: update to 2.7.1
<mahe2> Within "theNixString" is the whole script where $out is being used but it does not get substituted
<mahe2> LnL: oh, that looks good
<LnL> mahe2: that will replace @out@ in your script with the env variable duing the buildPhase
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<deepfire> LnL, what is the reason the postFixup phase isn't treated as the build phase, with regard to variable substitution?
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<LnL> it isn't?
<deepfire> oh, I see, it is, indeed
<mahe2> LnL: works like a charm. Thank you very much
<LnL> you learn a bunch of stuff when you reimplement the nixos modules :)
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<LnL> I only knew about substituteInPlace --replace before
<mahe2> FYI: I'm trying to convince my dev team to use nix instead of docker for local development. What I'm doing now is to override some derivations to add some pre configured startup scripts for services we depend on.
<mahe2> So in the end they should just use nix-shell and exec a few helper scripts to startup the services
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<sphalerite> I'm doing nix-shell -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; texlive.combine {inherit (texlive) "collection-xetex";}' but not getting xetex or xelatex commands on the path in the shell... What am I doing wrong?
<LnL> sphalerite: nix-shell -p
<LnL> nix-shell with -A or -E will give you the build environment for that derivation
<sphalerite> oooooh right
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<sphalerite> but the -p can take a full expression rather than just a path as well?
<LnL> yup
<sphalerite> great, thanks
<LnL> you can think of -p as -E with 'stdenv.mkDerivation { name = "user-environment"; buildInputs = [ (...) ]; }'
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<ixxie> config.environment.variables adds things to my user's path but they are not available to root; how can I make a path variable available to all users including root?
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<garbas> Profpatsch: sry for late reply i only now noticed you gist you pasted a week ago :)
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<garbas> Profpatsch: you want me to comment on the gist itself?
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<deepfire> aka "`intero` is broken: `stack` cannot run `intero`"
<deepfire> maybe we should wrap this into a testcase
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<LnL> is that a pure shell?
<LnL> I'm not familiar with stack but you might want to set NIX_REMOTE=daemon so it doesn't try to use the nix db directly
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<domenkozar> done
<LnL> deepfire: also I think you might want libraryHaskellDepends
<gchristensen> great, thank you!
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<sphalerite> LnL: that makes sense, thanks
<Profpatsch> garbas: okay, fine with me
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<ixxie> nobody has a clue how to add a variable to the root's path in a NixOS config?
<sphalerite> In pkgs/tools/typesetting/tex/texlive/pkgs.nix, is there any particular reason for the collections like "collection-basic" to have lots of lines like deps."abc" = tl."abc"; deps."xyz" = tl."xyz"; rather than deps = {inherit (tl) "abc" "xyz";}
<sphalerite> ?
<Heffalump> is there a way to specify a subpath in a derivation using fetchgit or fetchFromGitHub? Or some other way to override cabal-install with a git version (the git repository contains both a tool and a library, so they live in subfolders of the main repo)
<gchristensen> sphalerite: I _think_ because it is auto-generated and they just made it that way. ?
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: right, makes sense
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<FRidh> Heffalump: you might be able to pass `sourceRoot = "some/path";`
<FRidh> ixxie: environment.variables
<FRidh> in configuration.nix
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<Heffalump> FRidh: what would I pass that to? (I just tried passing it to fetchFromGitHub and to the derivation itself, but no luck)
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<ixxie> thanks FRidh
* Heffalump plays around with overriding unpackPhase
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vMkAr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 9d09bc6 Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into staging
<deepfire> LnL, yes pure shell
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<FRidh> Heffalump: mkDerivation or whatever functions passes it to stdenv.mkDerivation
<avn> Heffalump: sourceRoot is for relative path inside unpacked archive
<FRidh> I just gave nixUnstable a try. Am I correct channels/default repo are removed?
<avn> Heffalump: so if (for example) ./configure and other stuff lie in software/ -- you can set sourceRoot= "software/"
<FRidh> or I should say NIX_PATH
<ixxie> ok FRidh, heres a riddle for you: indeed setting SOME_PATH using environment.variable works (i.e. `sudo echo $SOME_PATH` works). But if I put it in a script, and run that script in sudo, it doesn't.
<avn> ixxie: sudo bash -c 'echo $SOME_PATH'
<ixxie> avn: doesn't work
<avn> ixxie: in your variant $.... expands before sudo, in shell
<deepfire> LnL, NIX_REMOTE=daemon does changes the situation, but doesn't appear to help -- the bug report is updated to reflect the new way it fails
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<Myrl-saki> How do I set a kernel module to be loaded?
<ixxie> avn: you mean doesn't expand?
<LnL> Myrl-saki: boot.kernelModules = [ "virtio" ];
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<avn> ixxie: I have nix.nixPath = [ "nixpkgs=/etc/nixos/nixpkgs" ]; in my configuration, so it work on both user and sudo
<Heffalump> avn/FRidh: is this the sourceRoot that unpackPhase uses? I managed to get that set before unpackPhase ran, but it doesn't seem to like it just being a relative path, it just fails to find it.
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<ixxie> avn: I don't quite understand how that how that would solve this; what is nix.nixPath?
<FRidh> Heffalump: yes, that's what the unpackPhase uses.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rasendubi closed pull request #21472: bloaty: 2016.11.16 -> 2016.12.28 (master...update/bloaty) https://git.io/vMTyq
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<avn> ixxie: is configuration.nix setting, I have it in my config, and it expand to proper NIX_PATH exports I think
<LnL> deepfire: I've never really used stack so I don't know anything about that part
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<ixxie> avn: it seems this is because sudo doesn't by default perserve environment variables
<mpickering> I have a list of derivations and am trying to filter out the ones which are only for OSX but it seems trying to access any attributes of such packages causes assertion failures?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #21475: llvm: 3.9.0 -> 3.9.1 (staging...update/llvm_391) https://git.io/vMT9B
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/9d09bc6728d8...563c7a0ef0bf
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 10b8cfb Will Dietz: llvm: 3.9.0 -> 3.9.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 563c7a0 Vladimír Čunát: Merge #21475: llvm: 3.9.0 -> 3.9.1
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<rly> How do I force a locatedb update?
<srhb> rly: sudo updatedb iirc
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<rly> srhb: /run/current-system/sw/bin/updatedb: line 323: /nix/store/6klirlqqv7np3z588x29viqgh9b018xs-findutils-4.6.0/var/locatedb.n: Read-only file system
<srhb> rly: Oh. I guess the systemd service defines the proper path in /var/something
<srhb> rly: You might want to check how it does it.
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<rly> srhb: the usability of this is zero.
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<rly> srhb: not your fault, I know.
<LnL> mpickering: yes, they get evaluated first
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to rocksdb: https://git.io/vMkhv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/rocksdb 8b45139 Domen Kožar: rocksdb: build without debug
<rly> updatedb --output=/var/cache/locatedb # for $SEARCHENGINE
<srhb> rly: It ought to have a wrapper with some sane NixOS defaults I guess.
<rly> /run/current-system/sw/bin/updatedb --output=/var/cache/locatedb # something which always works.
<rly> Well, if you installed it as a service too, that is.
<mpickering> LnL: Why? I should still be able to query the system of derivations I can't build?
<LnL> mpickering: nix-env -qa \* -P works
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<mpickering> I am still trying to build all the haskell packages if you remember that from a week or so ago
<LnL> ah right
<mpickering> so I have the set of haskell packages, haskellPackages and am trying to filter out the ones with OSX dependencies
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<mpickering> perhaps there is just one and I can hardcode it
<LnL> if you just want packages that will build on your current system you can generate a list with nix-env
<LnL> nix-env -qaA haskellPackages -P | awk '{print $1}'
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rardiol opened pull request #21496: opendungeons: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 (master...opendungeons) https://git.io/vMkhC
<rly> Where do I get libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0?
<namor> regarding haskell packages.. why entry should I put in my nixos configuration.nix to install say parsec? I tried to use haskellPackages.parsec, but ghc wont find it..
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<ixxie> avn: thanks for that! this solved the issue; I added the pertinant path to sudo in security as you did with NIX_PATH!
<mpickering> namor: You need to use the ghcWithPackages wrapper
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<rly> How can I point to the libgtk which is in my system configuration?
<rly> That is, the attribute nixos.gtk is installed somewhere and I want to query for this information.
<domenkozar> mpickering: can you show me the file you have so far?
<mpickering> That is what I had
<mpickering> but now I realise that haskellPackages is everything on hackage but I had some idea it tracked an LTS release
<ju8u3t3> exit
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<domenkozar> mpickering: it's TLS+extra
<domenkozar> LTS*
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<namor> mpickering, LnL: that helped, I finally got it working. Thank you!
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<mpickering> domenkozar: Ok thanks, I found the mailing list post now
<mpickering> Now I have taken the list of LTS packages and made it build all them rather than anything fancy like before
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<domenkozar> mpickering: do post what you have now for future reference :)
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<gchristensen> gosh, I wish the machine the tests run on were less loaded
<rly> gchristensen: Imagine one had access to all the idle machines on the planet ;)
<gchristensen> heh
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<rly> Is there any sort of guarantee that a pure nix shell expression works the same on Ubuntu as it does on NixOS?
<gchristensen> it should, rly
<gchristensen> though you may need to enable sandboxed builds
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<domenkozar> mpickering: not sure what's ./packages, but if it works then let me know if you need more help
<mpickering> domenkozar: Just that with a file with a list of all the packages in lts which I made with sed
<mpickering> packages is just a list of all the packages
<mpickering> and it appears to work, downloading all the caches now anyway
<mpickering> thanks for your help on this
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<domenkozar> awesome :)
<domenkozar> sadly nixpkgs doesn't ship with all tls versions anymore, that was a really good feature :/
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<gchristensen> that was really cool.
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<gchristensen> a lot of work, though, apparently
<domenkozar> yeah
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMIve
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5810701 Michael Raskin: go_bootstrap (go_1_4): 1.4.3 -> 1.4-bootstrap-20161024
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5b1dad7 Michael Raskin: go_1_6, go_1_7: comment out testLoadFixed in a way recommended by vcunat. The test depends on specific timezone names, and the latest tzdata changed the naming. Upstream only agrees to fix the test in the 1.8 branch that has no stable releases yer
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<rly> Does the LTS actually mean anything in the Haskell world? I mean; is anyone running some proprietary test suite?
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<peti> rly: It means very little, IMHO. The LTS package set ensures that all packages in the set compile against each other. That's it, basically.
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<rly> Wow, that sounds like a week of work to accomplish that and yet people talk about it as if it some huge thing.
<rly> it is*
<peti> rly: Yes. They do good marketing.
<rly> Oh, well, people also took cabal seriously.
<rly> (While the author never did.)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/5b550e30b7fe...d7a31603793e
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 b62516e Michael Raskin: go_bootstrap (go_1_4): 1.4.3 -> 1.4-bootstrap-20161024
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 d7a3160 Michael Raskin: go_1_6, go_1_7: comment out testLoadFixed in a way recommended by vcunat. The test depends on specific timezone names, and the latest tzdata changed the naming. Upstream only agrees to fix the test in the 1.8 branch that has no stable releases yer
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #21500: Patch Openssh for Roundup #15 (master...openssh) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21500
<rly> Is xulrunner-1.9.2 on NixOS? nix-env -iA nixos.xulrunner seems to install some unwrapped version of firefox.
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<newNixos> so what's needed to get nautilus auto-mount? I turned on the gvfs option, but that didnt do it
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<msd> viric: could we please merge or work on this PR? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21086 <- thanks! Just feel bad because the author's been waiting for a response for a few days now.
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<LnL> gchristensen: wow, that looks like a pretty significant improvement
<gchristensen> I'll say
<Dezgeg> nice, I had been thinking of investigating nfs-ganesha for vm tests
<niksnut> Dezgeg: I also looked into nfs-ganesha a while back, but gave up
<niksnut> couldn't get it to work iirc
<Dezgeg> ok, documentation seemed quite bad indeed
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<niksnut> also, it's hard to beat the simplicity of using the 9p server built into qemu
<gchristensen> yes
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<Dezgeg> let's hope though that this hang doesn't start showing up for us: https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/11/24/721
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<ixxie> can I declare my git user details in my nixos configuration?
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<ixxie> all I found while searching for options is gitlab and gitDaemon stuff
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/5b1dad79cd87...3e84523ed74a
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 996e0ef Eelco Dolstra: test-driver: Show test duration
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bb0ce81 Eelco Dolstra: nixos/tests/gnome3.nix: Speed up test...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3e84523 Eelco Dolstra: aws-sdk-cpp: 1.0.43 -> 1.0.48
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<Mic92> fpletz: do you use zfs on nixos?
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<rly> Mic92: I do.
<Mic92> rly: they recently removed the option from installer
<rly> Mic92: so, will I also not be able to do nixos-rebuild on those systems?
<Mic92> rly: this will still work
<newNixos> enjoy your copylefted freedom
<Mic92> rly: but requires network access
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<newNixos> if it was up to me Id close the issue and stick zfs back in
<newNixos> _f**m 'm_
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<Mic92> newNixos: the boot menu option could be an option.
<Mic92> I could also host zfs enabled ISOs
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<newNixos> having total disregard for intellectual facism is freeing up a lot of my time. I only care because it impacts people who are actually scared of the consequences. If anyone ever tried to come after this over it, id be mora than happy to go beak all their limbs ... Id tell everyone to move to a place where its unenforced but I know thats impossible. The plan is to form a new sovereigh territory where all
<newNixos> intellectual facism l
<newNixos> will be made void
<cjhowe> hi, how do I get the `xorg.libX11` package to show up in pkgconfig? I noticed that glfw shows up just fine
<Mic92> newNixos: I feel the same.
<newNixos> so keep the copyleft facist notice on nix, its fine cause Im gonna void it someday, soon I hope :)
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<rly> Mic92: I think SfConservancy is wrong.
* kmicu ಠ_ಠ
<rly> Mic92: now, I fully appreciate that nobody cares about my ideas regarding this.
<rly> Still, in a decade or so, you will be able to read here that I was right ;)
<newNixos> nough time lost for today
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<rly> #nixos is getting more violent everyday.
<Mic92> rly: well, would be cool, if we got the opinion of a lawyer here.
<cjhowe> i'm trying to get cmake to find libX11 to be clear
<FRidh> what proprietary Qt5 applications do we have in Nixpkgs?
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<rly> Mic92: the laywer can also only give their opinion, because it is new territory.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6d455dd risicle: opencv 3.1.0: add patch fixing python use of FlannBasedMatcher.add (#21086)...
<manveru> FRidh: virtualbox?
<rly> I also don't really see the difference between getting data over a network, in compiled form, or source form, or whatever.
<rly> I think the notion of a "binary" doesn't exist in copyright.
<rly> From a societal point of view it's also inefficient for such a difference to exist.
<rly> And laws are supposed to support efficient economics.
<FRidh> manveru: do we also have the proprietary version? I thought only the open source edittion
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<manveru> hmm, maybe it was only the addons?
<manveru> i remember that i always have to prefetch some binary to install vbox
<joko> manveru: the extensions that is
<FRidh> ok
<FRidh> I'm attempting to update mendeley which now switched to qt5 from qt4
<FRidh> but it complains it can't find the xcb plugin which seems to be distributed with mendeley. Setting QT_PLUGIN_PATH doesn't seem to make any difference
<Ptival> is anyone knowledgeable in debugging cabal2nix issues where one of the dependencies fails to install because of version bounds?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d7bda1e Michael Raskin: clisp-tip: init at 2.50pre20161201. There hasn't been a release for quite some time, but there has been some development. It is rumored that the fresh version can be built on darwin, but I don't know and cannot test
<gchristensen> domenkozar: can you also trigger https://hydra.nixos.org/build/45642015#tabs-constituents again?
<mpickering> Can I send nix-build logs to a file somehow?
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<rly> Ptival: I am sure many > 3 people in here are, but you can better just ask your real question.
<cjhowe> nvm i figured it out, `nix-build` is pretty awesome
<rly> cjhowe: nix-shell is too.
<deepfire> mpickering: "Nthey are lote that the builder's standard output and error are always written to a log file in prefix/nix/var/log/nix" -- from the --no-build-output part of 'nix-build' manpage
<domenkozar> gchristensen: done
<deepfire> mpickering: "Note that the builder's standard output and error are always written to a log file in prefix/nix/var/log/nix"
<mpickering> thanks perfect
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<cjhowe> now i just need to figure out how to get emacs to run in that environment
<Ptival> rly: well my question is, I can't get into a shell with snap because it depends on HsOpenSSL-0.11.3.2 which tries to build Glob-0.7.13 which fails because it says "directory <1.3" where the current version of directory is 1.3
<domenkozar> globin: fpletz: are you using https://github.com/domenkozar/nixbot/? I'll set it up soonish
<domenkozar> pierron: that's broken on master
<Ptival> yet, on github, Glob has been updated to say "directory <1.4" instead, but that is not reflected here :\
<domenkozar> Ptival: go back a few commits
<Ptival> domenkozar: a few commits of what?
<deepfire> mpickering: for every .drv file you get a bzipped logfile
<domenkozar> Ptival: 45338a307730a527127c7ee5caf7aa6a13c0cca0
<domenkozar> use that commit
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<rly> Ptival: isn't it magic?
<deepfire> mpickering: there's also --keep-failed
<rly> I got something awful to run on NixOS today \o/.
<Ptival> domenkozar: I don't think I was using a commit other than my "current" nixpkgs
<mpickering> Ptival: Which version of the compiler are you using?
<Ptival> so I should pass a flag to nix-shell to point to a checkout of nixpkgs?
<Ptival> ghc802 I think
<Ptival> though I'm happy changing that
<mpickering> Yes, this is the problem. The version of directory got bumped to 1.3
<mpickering> so there have been some ripples
<mpickering> It would be easier using 801 for now
<LnL> Ptival: you can see what happens if you jailbreak the package
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<Ptival> ok, will try ghc801 first
<gchristensen> domenkozar: thank you!
<mpickering> Ptival: Or as others suggest you can add an override but I think there will be some other packages with this problem
<Ptival> I'm a bit oblivious as to how all those things work, so all users of nixpkgs are pointed to a given version number for each package, depending on what compiler version they pick?
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<mpickering> directory is special because it ships with the compiler
<Ptival> ah
<fpletz> domenkozar: we're not really using it and I think it's broken right now… globin? :)
<Ptival> well at least it's nice knowing I did not fuck it up :)
<mpickering> The hackage-packages nix expression is the version of all packages you usually get
<mpickering> but there are also compiler specific overrides
<mpickering> "configuration-ghc-8.0.x.nix"
<fpletz> Mic92: yeah, I'm reading up on the issue right now
<domenkozar> mpickering: so directory ships with ghc?
<mpickering> yes
<domenkozar> that means Glob needs to be bumped at one point
<mpickering> You can see which libraries do by which attributes are set to null in the overrides file
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<Ptival> another question: for a given compiler, where can I see what version of a package I'm expected to get?
<domenkozar> Ptival: opened https://github.com/Deewiant/glob/issues/8
<mpickering> domenkozar: I can probably get a hackage trustee to bump the bounds on hackage already so it works
<mpickering> Ptival: There is a version attribute which tells you
<domenkozar> meanwhile you can jailbreak
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<Ptival> mpickering: like, something I can pass to nix-env -qaP to list haskellPackages?
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<mpickering> hmm evaluating a buildInputs with 2000 items takes quite a while
<mpickering> Ptival: "nix-env -f "<nixpkgs>" -qaP -A haskellPackages"
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<mpickering> from the user manual
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d15c62a Domen Kožar: haskellPackages.Glob: jailbreak to support GHC 8.0.2-rc2
<domenkozar> jailbreak is 50% of haskell work in nix :/
<LnL> yeah the haskell community is pretty strict about versions
<simpson> Hmm.
<domenkozar> wish someone worked on apidiff, who needs versions
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<domenkozar> in general it's hard to fight the culture of "being caucious" with verison bounds
<Mic92> fpletz: btw. I am also on 33c3
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<mpickering> Is there a way to query how something ended up in the build plan?
<domenkozar> nix-store -q --graph /nix/store/asdasdasd
<domenkozar> if you want to know what dependency pulled it in
<mpickering> The build fails so I want to know why it was there in the first place
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<domenkozar> mpickering: did my advice help?
<mpickering> Will the store path exist if the build failed?
<domenkozar> -K to leave the working dir
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #21414: Improve release-cross tests (master...release-cross) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21414
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<Sonarpulse> halp
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<Sonarpulse> I was hoping i could make an eval time hydra job with assert
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<Sonarpulse> but hydra...doesn't care
<Sonarpulse> there should be a few new jobs `ensureUnaffected.<...>`
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<kragniz> is anyone using android studio from unstable at the moment?
<kragniz> I'm getting `java.awt.AWTError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.` whenever I try and run it
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<toogley> kragniz: hm, that's a strange error, but to me, it doesn't seem very related to android studio. can you post your configuration.nix?
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<kragniz> I think it is related, since clion runs fine
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<m3tti> hi there me again
<simpson> Morning.
<m3tti> how could i install an node environment with some packages likep purescript and pulp on nix
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<simpson> I would tell you to read the section in the manual, but there isn't one: http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/
<m3tti> thats it
<simpson> I think that there's a tool called npm2nix and that you're supposed to *not* use it? I don't know anything about JS in Nix.
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<m3tti> i've played with postInstall but that doesn't work
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<m3tti> i know that npm2nix and node2nix but i was trying to keep it simple and use the default tools to get more familiar with the nix way
<simpson> The Nix way is to use language-specific tools to bring their packages into the Nix umbrella.
<m3tti> ok and how XD
<simpson> For JS, npm2nix or node2nix, I guess.
<m3tti> ok
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: still around? I have one more for you: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/45668061
<gchristensen> domenkozar: (and the tested job)
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<toogley> kragniz: at the moment, i don't know how to help, sry. (but i'm currently installing android-studio to reproduce it)
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<kragniz> alright, cool
<kragniz> are you on unstable?
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<dhess> Dezgeg: Hi, I'm having trouble with the latest armv7 image on a Jetson TK1. When doing a rebuild (or any heavy network activity), enp1s0 eventually hangs.
<dhess> (stack trace)
<dhess> This happens on multiple boards, so it's unlikely to be a hardware issue.
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<Dezgeg> sounds like a kernel problem
<Dezgeg> maybe 4.4 works
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<dhess> Dezgeg: is there an image with a 4.4 kernel?
<ToxicFrog> trying to play games has been extremely crashy since switching to Nix :/
<dhess> I looked briefly on your site but didn't see anything obvious
<simpson> My Hydra is still complaining of stack overflow while evaluating this fixpoint: https://github.com/monte-language/mtpkgs/blob/master/default.nix#L15
<simpson> I'm using the standard fix/extend-style fixpoint; what am I doing wrong?
<simpson> (And of course it works fine on my laptop.)
<Dezgeg> hmm, I wonder if I have some oldi image somewhere
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<dhess> Dezgeg: Oooh, archive.org has a snapshot from Aug 29. I'll try that image :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9d03fe2 Nikolay Amiantov: qtcreator: 4.1.0 -> 4.2.0
<dhess> Err... assuming they actually archived the .img file
<dhess> annnnnd they did not
<dhess> oh well
<Dezgeg> I have something with 4.8.8, tooks about a minute to upload
<dhess> Dezgeg: oh thanks!
<dhess> Dezgeg: I searched the kernel bugzilla and found no open issues related to the NIC
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] corngood opened pull request #21502: WIP: amdgpu-pro: 16.40 -> 16.50 (master...amdgpu-pro-update) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21502
<kragniz> toogley: any luck?
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<dhess> Well archive.org *does* have an image from Aug 29, which I've just downloaded. I'll see whether that works
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<dhess> Dezgeg: Thanks! Is that 4.8.8?
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<Dezgeg> yes
<ToxicFrog> Go appears to be broken in nixos-16.09:
<ToxicFrog> --- FAIL: TestLoadFixed (0.00s)
<ToxicFrog> time_test.go:929: Now().In(loc).Zone() = "-01", -3600, want "GMT+1", -3600
<ToxicFrog> builder for ‘/nix/store/mwbgi1nlk2i3jbxascczkyq9r1w8rjdc-go-1.4.3.drv’ failed with exit code 1
<deepfire> does anybody use any dependency graph analysis tools?
<dtzWill_> ToxicFrog: same, just was looking at that myself heh
<ToxicFrog> Well, at least I'm not the first person to discover this :P
<deepfire> ..that is, outside manual inspection via 'nix-store --query --graph'
<ToxicFrog> I'm actually wondering if I should switch to unstable in the hopes that a more recent kernel and X would stop these whole-system lockups I'm having when trying to game.
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<dtzWill_> interesting--just curious, what sort of graphics card/driver are you using, ToxicFrog?
<sphalerite> Is pkgs.runCommand documented anywhere? Grepping the nixpkgs manual yielded nothing
<dtzWill_> I had occasional gpu problems but the machine is inherited and was suspected of potential hardware faults so didn't investigate too thoroughly... "solved" by using nouveau and disabling compositing lol :/
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<ToxicFrog> dtzWill_: Lenovo T550 with Intel HD5500 integrated card. Not sure which driver is loaded; how do I check?
<ToxicFrog> I'm pretty confident it's not a hardware problem, because two weeks ago this same system was running SUSE and the same games worked flawlessly -- but it was SUSE TW, so kernel 4.8
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rasendubi closed pull request #21445: syncthing: 0.14.15 -> 0.14.17 (master...u/syncthing-0.14.16) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21445
<deepfire> sometimes I get a suspicion that graph manipulation is forbidden technology
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos opened pull request #21503: libmd: init at 0.0.0 (master...libmd) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21503
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<dtzWill_> ToxicFrog: well I had to /specify/ what driver to use in my configuration.nix--also, intel only as the one driver AFAIK (as opposed to ati/nvidia and their open-source vs binary versions)
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<ixxie> deepfire I was thinking of doing something using R
<ixxie> but it will be a while before I get into that
<ToxicFrog> dtzWill: yeah, I didn't need to specify a driver, it just worked
<dtzWill> deepfire: it /is/ surprisingly poorly tooled AFAICT--for example, use of ancient graphviz 'dot' format everywhere is craziness haha
<ixxie> (deepfire: where does nix-store --query --graph output the graph to?)
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<toogley> kragniz: is still installing (my internet connection is slow :D)
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<m3tti> hi there i've a problem
<deepfire> ixxie, stdout, if my 10-minutes-old memories don't fail me..
<m3tti> i've a user-environment folder in my nix/store
* deepfire meanwhile, hacks something with bash, grep and sed..
<m3tti> that includes purescript but i haven't installed it with my nix configuration. How do i get rid of it?
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<LnL> m3tti: run the gc?
<m3tti> i've allready run it
<m3tti> nix-store --gc and nix-collect-garbage -d and --generations old
<LnL> then there's something that's keeping it alive
<LnL> nix-store -q --referrers-closure /nix/store/...
<ixxie> deepfire: I just get digraph G { }
<ixxie> xD
<ixxie> and I was expecting a network plot
<ixxie> but maybe I misunderstood
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<LnL> ixxie: it's a graphviz dot file
<m3tti> LnL: nix-store -q --referrers-closure /nix/store/wga3xk0fawmm4dgdr9fcar63r8qxxkxj-user-environment
<m3tti> /nix/store/wga3xk0fawmm4dgdr9fcar63r8qxxkxj-user-environment
<m3tti> thats the output
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<m3tti> it just repeats itself
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bbd03e2 Eelco Dolstra: Use looser 9pfs caching in VM tests/builds...
<LnL> m3tti: ls -l /nix/var/nix-profiles
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<m3tti> there is a profile that is referencing to it
<m3tti> default-3-link -> /nix/store/wga3xk0fawmm4dgdr9fcar63r8qxxkxj-user-environment
<LnL> that's what's keeping it alive then, and I assume since you ran nix-collect-garbage -d it's default -> default-3-link
<m3tti> right
<m3tti> and now
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<ericbmerritt_> puffnfresh: I have been following your model with docker images. lately from your discussion here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/18038
<ericbmerritt_> but the images are huge. I wonder if there is anyway to shrink them down?
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<m3tti> LnL: you're right what can i do now?
<LnL> m3tti: is that a nix-env profile?
<m3tti> i don't know
<m3tti> how can i check that
<LnL> what system are you on?
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<m3tti> nixos
<LnL> I think it's the user profile of root then
<LnL> nix-env -q -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/default
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<m3tti> right
<m3tti> its root
<m3tti> nix-env -q
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] tg-x opened pull request #21505: mpd: listen on 127.0.0.1 by default (master...mpd-listen) https://git.io/vMIRl
<m3tti> LnL: thanx again :-(
<LnL> no problem :)
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<m3tti> one more question why does a postInstall in my nix file with an npm install -g doesn't work?
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<mpickering> The agda derivation is busted with the RC2 candidate, what's the right way to update it to version 2.5.2?
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<toogley> kragniz: and yes, i'm on unstable
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<musicmatze> I guess I just made someone try nixos! :-) So my job for today is done... I will now have my ... 5th? 6th? Mate and then I will party hard at the lounge at 33c3! :-)
<mpickering> It doesn't seem that nixos is a hard sell to me
<mpickering> aim higher!
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<joepie91_to_go> musicmatze: if you can still count them, you haven't had enough of them! :)
<hodapp> AGDA?!
* hodapp runs and hides
<MichaelRaskin> joepie91_to_go: if you cannot count how many you have drinked, you have switched from mate to gin without noticing
<joepie91_to_go> MichaelRaskin: you win :P
<joepie91_to_go> also I should *really* drop by the NixOS assembly tomorrow...
<hodapp> pick me up some free stuff!
<hodapp> the box that I put free stuff from conferences into isn't full yet
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] mguentner opened pull request #1167: RFC: Add IPFS to Nix (master...ipfs) https://git.io/vMIum
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] chris-martin opened pull request #21507: eval-config.nix: Remove (`configuration`) comment (master...patch-1) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21507
<lassulus> savanni: hey, I read you started working on an icingia2 nixos module/pkg
<lassulus> is there any progress?
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<dhess> Dezgeg: now getting the same issue even as far back as the Aug 28 image running 4.7.0.
<savanni> lassulus: Actually, I didn't have a lot.
<savanni> It became irrelevant when I left my last job...
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<savanni> But Icinga2 was really tricky. Even installing it on an Ubuntu machine left a lot of steps that I had to work out manually.
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<rardiol> what's the easiest way to CRLF -> LF everything in a nix build?
<dhess> Dezgeg: for the record this appears to be a common issue with the RTL8111GS on the TK1 dev board. Most of the time the recommendation is to compile the vendor-supplied driver, which sounds yucky.
<lassulus> savanni: ok, thanks. Are there other monitoring solutions you would prefer over icinga2?
<savanni> I'm not really sure. Icinga2 makes a lot of sense in one sense...
<dhess> Dezgeg: I have an Intel 7260 WiFi adapter being delivered tomorrow, hoping that will work better than the on-board Ethernet. Still, odd that nobody else has reported this. Maybe not many people use the TK1?
<savanni> I think my preferred strategy, though, is to have log files shipped to a central server and then to raise an alert if the log stops getting updates.
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<savanni> But devops professionals disagree with me.
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<dtzWill> ToxicFrog: do you know if there's a bug filed for the "go" failure on 16.09?
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<bennofs> rardiol: use find and dos2unix?
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<musicmatze> joepie91_to_go: right!
<dtzWill> ToxicFrog: nevermind, looks like it's been fixed and is in 16.09-small already, so hopefully in 16.09 soon :)
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<toogley> how can i fix this error https://paste.fedoraproject.org/514843/48304915/ ?
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<DavidEGrayson> toogley: Oh, thanks for trying to help with the renaming. I figured out how to rename the files with a one-line shell/sed script.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] RonnyPfannschmidt closed pull request #21493: enpass backport #21436 to Release 16.09 (release-16.09...release-16.09-enpass-backport) https://git.io/vMki3
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<toogley> DavidEGrayson: i think you confuse me with sb else
<toogley> DavidEGrayson: or my memories is really faulty :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21500: Patch Openssh for Roundup #15 (master...openssh) https://git.io/vMIvQ
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/bbd03e236a58...b5000249a8ec
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 11e8ed5 Graham Christensen: Revert "Revert "openssh: security 7.3p1 -> 7.4p1""...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8ed4c8b Graham Christensen: openssh: 7.4p1 no longer backgrounds when systemd is starting it.
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bf65912 Graham Christensen: openssh: test that startWhenNeeded works
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: I'm going to mark ceph as broken :|
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 4 new commits to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/d7a31603793e...48e16bbaa485
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 0468ae1 Graham Christensen: Revert "Revert "openssh: security 7.3p1 -> 7.4p1""...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 abc3e0c Graham Christensen: openssh: 7.4p1 no longer backgrounds when systemd is starting it....
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 bebcf28 Graham Christensen: openssh: test that startWhenNeeded works...
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<kragniz> toogley: that's normally when some download timed out somewhere
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<LnL> gchristensen: none of the maintainers looking at it anymore?
<LnL> that expression looks a little bit over engineered :)
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<gchristensen> LnL: nope, wkennington hasn't replied in >2 weeks, ak isn't even @ak on github, and no reply on the mailing list.
<Sonarpulse> ceph is the fs thing?
<LnL> yes
<gchristensen> yeah
<LnL> I'm actually pretty surprised how many of the openstack services we have
<gchristensen> our version is quite out of date
<gchristensen> LnL: me too...
<gchristensen> I almost wish we hadn't, since right now we don't have (m)any people maintaining them
<LnL> I wonder if somebody has setup a full openstack environment
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<wayne> hi
<sphalerite> I've booted the netboot image via PXE, and for some reason nix programs can't create /nix/sore/.links, saying it's a read-only file system. Is there a way to fix this manually?
<sphalerite> (/nix/store is a squashfs mount, so it does make sense that it would be read-only)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #21464: Automated emacs package updates (master...emacs-updates) https://git.io/vMTW1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/b5000249a8ec...9c52f7f083fb
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 060c849 Michael Alan Dorman: elpa-packages: 2016-12-27
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4de8a35 Michael Alan Dorman: org-packages: 2016-12-27
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7ccd91b Michael Alan Dorman: melpa-stable-packages: 2016-12-27
<gchristensen> now, lnl, do I mark it as broken on stable, too? seems rude :P
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMIwp
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eb01090 Graham Christensen: ceph: mark as broken
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<gchristensen> I think I should :( makes me sad.
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<MichaelRaskin> Was it obsolete at the moment of 16.09 release announcement?
<gchristensen> it was
<LnL> gchristensen: I've played with ceph a little bit for work, but I don't know much about it
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<LnL> not even sure how to test it properly on it's own
<sphalerite> nixos-install shouldn't even need to modify the booted system's nix store, surely?
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<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin, LnL: our version went out of support in April 2016
<LnL> oh it's that old?
<gchristensen> (9.2.1 ended support in april, that is)
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<LnL> of all the openstack services I'd think it's one of the more useful
<gchristensen> ceph is great
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<gchristensen> one time I hit a bug in it though which caused all the nodes mounting a posix filesystem over ceph to kernel panic and crash
<LnL> euh, that's not nice
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<gchristensen> no
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<gchristensen> but it was several years ago and I had like half a million files in a single directory
<gchristensen> I' m assuming that isn't the state of the art now
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<LnL> yeah I think it's pretty stable now
<LnL> perhaps I'll take a look sometime
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* gchristensen covertly adds LnL7 as maintainer of ceph
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<sphalerite> https://gist.github.com/lheckemann/78e4cb38ae3cc280b6d89f8f13e7727f here's what I use to run my PXE server with which I'm trying to boot a machine so I can install nixos on it. Any idea what I might be doing wrong so that the nix store is mounted read-only and nixos-install doesn't work?
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<LnL> :p
<alphor> does anyone here use nix to manage home servers?
<gchristensen> I use nix to manage home and work servers
<ehmry> alphor: matrix, yes
<gchristensen> clever: around? PXE questions
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7e1846e45f05bde7520ed2cfb037375b96120d28
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 7e1846e Graham Christensen: ceph: mark as broken...
<alphor> ehmry: matrix.ai? why not nixos?
<domenkozar> gchristensen: sounds good
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<gchristensen> thanks, domenkozar :) always feels bad marking stuff broken.
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<domenkozar> gchristensen: users can still install it regardless.
<ehmry> software naming is getting too ambiguous
<gchristensen> it is?
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<gchristensen> I guess the gold-old-days of self-describing programs like `sed` `awk` and `finger` are over :(
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: what do you think of the new announcement format?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] risicle opened pull request #21508: (r16.09 backport of) opencv 3.1.0: add patch fixing python use of FlannBasedMatcher.add (release-16.09...r16.09_opencv-flannbasedmatcher-fix) https://git.io/vMIKv
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