<RickHull> would those declarations go in the same file you pasted?
<nathan7> yup
<nathan7> I tend to split things out by "cluster" (config/consensus servers, frontend load balancers, compute nodes)
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<RickHull> What about making an AWS machine launch with a second disk, formatted and ready to go at /foobar, either empty or maybe with seed data. Does NixOps help with that?
<RickHull> purely hypothetical, but again, something I've tackled previously with other tools
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<simpson> I think that you can do stuff like that. No idea exactly what AWS-specific functionality exists.
<RickHull> It can get gnarly with specifying the EBS volume in various places in AWS, and making sure fstab and mtab agree
<RickHull> or just decide to create everything from scratch on every launch
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<RickHull> e.g. create EBS volume, get its ID, specify that new ID at instance launch. your image will not necessarily expect a second disk. make sure it's there, build a filesystem on it, mount it. copy over any seed data
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<simpson> RickHull: I think that you just specify
<simpson> Er, specify the volume with http://nixos.org/nixops/manual/#idm140737317532288 and then add it to the machine.
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<RickHull> so let's ignore creating the EBS volume on launch. assume it exists and we know its ID. We can specify the ID. but where does it mount?
<simpson> No idea; I don't know much about nixops and AWS.
<RickHull> ah, looks like fileSystems
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<RickHull> thanks, this is helpful
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1pju
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 45043ab Eelco Dolstra: Fix go test...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2c03037 Eelco Dolstra: Work around slowness in the KDE 5 test...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master adc2a8f Graham Christensen: Fix go_1_6 test...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/v1pjg
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 9a32619 Graham Christensen: Fix go_1_6 test...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21341: spotify: 1.0.45.182 -> 1.0.45.186 (master...master) https://git.io/v1hvr
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1hvo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 84ec6f8 Sigrid: spotify: 1.0.45.182 -> 1.0.45.186
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 25ac140 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #21341 from ftrvxmtrx/master...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/v1hv6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 77e1751 Sigrid: spotify: 1.0.45.182 -> 1.0.45.186...
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<gchristensen> who wants to close one pull request?? :D if we get 10 people to close 1 PR that'll get us well under 300
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1hJV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1b8aec4 ft@zeus: stellarium: 0.14.3 -> 0.15.0...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21271: stellarium: 0.14.3 -> 0.15.0 (master...fix/stellarium-update) https://git.io/v1dfo
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dochang opened pull request #21347: yank: 0.7.0 -> 0.7.1 (master...yank) https://git.io/v1hJx
<gchristensen> joachifm: I'm grateful you're pulling apart these reproducibility PRs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dochang opened pull request #21348: lnav: 0.8.0 -> 0.8.1 (master...lnav) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21348
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dochang opened pull request #21349: rolespec: 20160105 -> 20161104 (master...rolespec) https://git.io/v1hUG
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21347: yank: 0.7.0 -> 0.7.1 (master...yank) https://git.io/v1hJx
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/1b8aec421b4d...43d1263d8e20
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dd6025d Desmond O. Chang: yank: 0.7.0 -> 0.7.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 43d1263 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #21347 from dochang/yank...
<gchristensen> Mic92: that wireguard fellow is very difficult.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21348: lnav: 0.8.0 -> 0.8.1 (master...lnav) https://git.io/v1hUE
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21349: rolespec: 20160105 -> 20161104 (master...rolespec) https://git.io/v1hUG
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/7c94d622439b...c81338a2a879
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 95c4297 Desmond O. Chang: rolespec: 20160105 -> 20161104
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c81338a Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #21349 from dochang/rolespec...
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<justicefries> anyone doing much in the way of Kubernetes deployments with Nix/NixOS?
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<gchristensen> moretea is (but not around)
<justicefries> +1 awesome. going to take a crack at it over the holiday break.
<gchristensen> I'm not sure how good of an experience they're having ... one sec
<spacekitteh> gchristensen: any idea why g++ would be crashing while compiling cmake?
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<gchristensen> spacekitteh: that is too low level for me, I have no idea... sorry
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<spacekitteh> kk
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/77588ca4428875e5d04bd470a6b68556950c3981
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 77588ca Jason A. Donenfeld: wireguard: 20161209 -> 20161218 (#21288)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/77588ca44288...3ffb5ba60c4c
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 53e2152 Graham Christensen: linux:3.12.68 -> 3.12.69
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3ffb5ba Graham Christensen: linux:3.18.44 -> 3.18.45
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/77e17510817d...d3e9fc676210
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 6cef2f2 Graham Christensen: linux:3.18.44 -> 3.18.45...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 d3e9fc6 Graham Christensen: linux:3.12.68 -> 3.12.69...
<gchristensen> gosh! I've closed a bunch of PRs, and it still sits at 302 :P
<spacekitteh> hehe
* spacekitteh waits semi-patiently for hers to be closed
<gchristensen> to staging?
<spacekitteh> indeed :D
<gchristensen> I'd happily merge, but don't really do much with staging, is why I deferred to vcunat
* spacekitteh nodnods :3
<spacekitteh> got any idea about this? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21327
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<gchristensen> oh, gosh, no, lol -- sorry
<spacekitteh> dang
* gchristensen just has no answers today
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<spacekitteh> hmm... AOSP doesn't seem to compile even when working around that issue
<spacekitteh> it can't even find ncurses o.O
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<sheenobu> egh building AOSP is pain. spacekitteh if you figure it out let me know
<gchristensen> yes, yes it is
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1hLr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 489ba17 Eric Litak: top-level: missing parentheses
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b6f8b0d John Ericson: Merge pull request #21324 from elitak/parens...
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<spacekitteh> on nixos?
<gchristensen> period
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3e1ad389092ac25069cb72efeb59aa40cd1ccca0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3e1ad38 Graham Christensen: go_bootstrap: Fix credential test for new user namespacing
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 5d03aab Graham Christensen: go_bootstrap: Fix credential test for new user namespacing...
<mizerian> how ez is nixos to install?
<mizerian> :)
<mizerian> debian here
<mizerian> bit bored
<mizerian> does it have pacakge for swi prolog?
<mizerian> ;)
<simpson> mizerian: NixOS is pretty easy to install, compared to most distros.
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<simpson> mizerian: I do see SWI Prolog in there.
<gchristensen> nix-shell -p swiProlog yields SWI-Prolog version 6.6.6 for x86_64-linux
<gchristensen> fpletz: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21310/files any reason to not merge this?
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<spacekitteh> sheenobu: gchristensen: thus the point of that issue on github :)
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<sheenobu> spacekitteh, ahhhh
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<hodapp> um, where do I find gcc/g++ in pretty much stock NixOS 16.09?
<spacekitteh> ah it wants ncurses 5 and i'm passing it ncurses 6
<gchristensen> ok I'm disconnecting for the night. see you all on the other side :)
<hodapp> I see gcc-wrapper, I see gcc-arm-embedded...
<simpson> hodapp: $ nix-shell -p gcc
<simpson> hodapp: The Nix style is eventually to just write Nix expressions for your development stuff too.
<hodapp> oh, hmmm
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<spacekitteh> dang, have to make ncurses create a symlink :(
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<roconnor> I got stickers with a hedgehog carrying nixos boxes on my birthday.
<roconnor> and a pegnuin too
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<hodapp> whaa? hedgehog carrying NixOS boxes?
<roconnor> a purple one
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] spacekitteh opened pull request #21350: ncurses: Create libtinfo symlink (master...patch-23) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21350
<roconnor> a purple hedgehog
<roconnor> the box is cardboard brown.
<hodapp> pics!
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<roconnor> That migth take all the fun out of it, but let me see.
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<roconnor> the colour is a little different
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<hodapp> hah
<roconnor> could be a printing related issue.
<roconnor> I remember my thesis cover was a lot different than I had designed.
<hodapp> color management is a black hole
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<jsgrant_> Are Wine executables somefactor of "safe" on/in NixOS?
<simpson> jsgrant_: Not any safer than on other distros.
<jsgrant_> simpson: Was going to extend on that, heard some horror stories on other distros of esculated privs... :^P
<simpson> jsgrant_: I have no idea how to safely work with untrusted code on Windows, sorry.
* jsgrant_ wonders if just getting a cheapish Win10 license & run it in VM would be somefactor of "better".
<jsgrant_> simpson: Yeah, no problem; Just exploring options. Just really don't want to buy a dedicated Windows box...
<spacekitteh> viric: you there?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ebe19f5 Vincent Laporte: lablgtk: 2.18.3 -> 2.18.5
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<_habnabit> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/rBOgJEtjnFhVnHxd3CpW/ installing i686 nix seems.. broken? i'm able to run other i686 binaries without issue. can someone else confirm?
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<nekroze> How severe are the security implications of having the same nix store mounted in multiple containers (that may be externally accessible) as their host, which is a non choice afaik?
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<thalll> I cant find libwebkitgtk-1.0 , anyone who known if this in the repo or if i have to package it my self?
<nekroze> thalll: its just called webkitgtk and its in nixpkgs
<nekroze> There are some variants including gnome3.webkitgtk
<nekroze> Oh wait you wanted v1.0 which is not there now... It probably once was. I'd check the git history on those packages i mentioned in nixpkgs
<thalll> nekroze: yeah i found that to :) Ah kind of you!
<benley> RickHull: hey!
<nekroze> thalll: looks like it doesnt go back to 1.0 sadly
<thalll> nekroze: ah damn, thanks anyway!
<thalll> need it for pentaho spoon...
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<nekroze> I have a nix host that is running an ssh server. Sometimes after a day of uptime i turn my laptop on and find i cannot ssh into the server get any network access to it on other ports either... Until I disconnect from wifi and plug in ethernet. Then its fine. Any thoughts as to why? No fail2ban and the servers journal states 0 events happening since i last sshed in yesterday via wifi.
<nekroze> I can't figure out if i should be looking at this like a server or a client (my laptop) issue. Everything else on wifi works fine. Some other devices are able to use wifi to reach other services on the host as well.
<nekroze> Even the laptop can browse the net and all when this happens
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 opened pull request #21351: haskell: workaround for bug with dynamic libraries on darwin (master...darwin-haskell-dyld) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21351
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<hyper_ch> is it me or is there no links2 in nixos and that links doesn't support JS?
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<srhb> hyper_ch: nixos.links appears to be links2-2.13 for me
<rly> What package contains the program 'gnome-open'?
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<srhb> rly: nixos.gnome.libgnome, according to the command-not-found magic.
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<phanimahesh> is it possible to get nixos command-not-found magic on non-nixos?
<phanimahesh> The package is not there in nixpkgs.
<phanimahesh> So copy the derivation over? Any better option?
<viric> spacekitteh: yes
<spacekitteh> viric: any chance you could merge the libssh + ncurses PRs i made? at least, into staging
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<viric> spacekitteh: umh I didn't notice
<viric> ssh+ncurses sounds nice
<viric> it'd be nice if "Some applications" included a list of at least one of such applications
<spacekitteh> viric: AOSP
<viric> android something?
<spacekitteh> yeah
<spacekitteh> the buildchain specifically
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<viric> any other ?
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<viric> or "some programs" means AOSP?
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<viric> are you trying to sell your patch as a benefit for many, while it only fixes one trouble with one program?
<viric> :)
<spacekitteh> when i was googling the error, a lot of gentoo posts were about it before they added the use flag
<viric> because I'd think the build system of that program is b0rken
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<viric> it'd be nice if you could add some links supporting your patch, in the PR
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<spacekitteh> ok. in the meantime, look at the "required by": https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ncurses5-compat-libs/
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<spacekitteh> updated
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<viric> Ah you changed the text
<viric> I was looking for new comments.
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<spacekitteh> huh i thought you were vcunat lol
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<LnL> spacekitteh: staging is not in a great place at the moment, so I would prefer to stabilise it a bit first
<spacekitteh> oh. master then? :B
<rly> What do I need to do to get s3fuse to work? Do I need to create the fuse group myself?
<LnL> I thought it depended on the new cmake
<spacekitteh> no
<spacekitteh> libssh causes a cmake rebuild
<LnL> oh well that's still a mass-rebuild for darwin then :(
<spacekitteh> =[
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<spacekitteh> lol great, now compiling openjdk segfaults
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<spacekitteh> LnL: why is staging fucked?
<LnL> not sure, I wonder if it has done a full rebuild since the user namespace changes
<Mic92> gchristensen: we most likely do not have to deal with him in future, when this module gets merged into linux and wireguard-tools gets merged into iproute2.
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<LnL> would explain a lot if the current eval is only a partial one
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] viric closed pull request #21350: ncurses: Create libtinfo symlink (master...patch-23) https://git.io/v1hmc
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] viric pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/ebe19f5db0d9...81f2e4f37808
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 70424e1 Sophie Taylor: ncurses: Create libtinfo symlink...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 81f2e4f viric: Merge pull request #21350 from spacekitteh/patch-23...
<itorres> Hi all, I still have problems with $system-profile/sw/share not being correctly populated
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<itorres> just noticed that it's not only about a single package, a lot of symlinks in the new /nix/store/nixos-system* are being populated weirdly, for instance there are no symlinks to the zfs utils. I will try rebooting into a working generation and rebuilding
<spacekitteh> back under 300 PR's!
<spacekitteh> gchristensen: ^
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1hoU
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0c13820 Vladimír Čunát: Revert "Merge pull request #21350 from spacekitteh/patch-23"...
<spacekitteh> gdi
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 3 new commits to staging: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/41f55691a96c...39e4d93649ce
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 2e03ae2 Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into staging
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 2b883c6 Vladimír Čunát: Revert "Revert "Merge pull request #21350 from spacekitteh/patch-23""...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 39e4d93 Vladimír Čunát: libuv: disable tests broken on Hydra...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] domenkozar closed pull request #1144: shellcheck scripts/install-nix-from-closure.sh (master...shellcheck_install) https://git.io/v1cES
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<viric> spacekitteh: you thought I was vcunat? :D
<viric> good. I let you discuss with vcunat the things then.
<spacekitteh> XD
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<itorres> so, any clues as to why my /run/current-system/sw/share/ is now so empty? Could it be that I used a wrong version of nix (from nixpkgs) in some rebuild and now I have some inconsistency?
<itorres> $ ls /run/current-system/sw/share/
<jophish> I'm trying to modify the RPATH of a shared object but patchelf says 'open: Permission denied'
<itorres> applications desktop-directories emacs info menus nano pixmaps terminfo vim-plugins
<itorres> dbus-1 doc icons man mime org polkit-1 themes xdg
<jophish> does this even make sense?
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<itorres> $ ls /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-13-link/sw/share/|wc -l # 156
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<itorres> I have tried rebooting into that system profile (13) and rebuilding and I have the same behaviour. Mh, now that I have said that, I will try rebooting into a previous generation and rebuild with the current configuration.nix, brb
<michalrus> Hey, so when running some vagrant commands, I’m getting:
<michalrus> /nix/store/9xirzqgx00iwmh2asaa8r7zb26x4sh76-vagrant-1.8.7/opt/vagrant/embedded/gems/gems/nokogiri-1.6.7.1/lib/nokogiri.rb:29:in `require': libexslt.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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<Profpatsch> garbas: Why am I not surprised that you were at the [rb] conference? ;)
<garbas> Profpatsch: it was almost in my living room :P i had no choice
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<Profpatsch> Though I’d not call them zero reproducibility days, rather “full reproducibility days” :P
<garbas> i think zero rep. days is the oposite of full rep. days
<Profpatsch> yeah, but we don’t want zero rep, right?
<garbas> but anyway, i dont want to be the one naming things
<garbas> we dont want zero vul. days as well, but we have them :)
<Profpatsch> With such an awesome blog design you are a “thought leader” by default. :P
<garbas> the point i was trying to make is that we need to look at reproducibility as we do security
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<garbas> probably the same workflows would apply
<garbas> Profpatsch: damn, i need to "dumb down" my design then :)
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<Profpatsch> :D
<Profpatsch> Use some default template and you’re golden.
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<Profpatsch> But a very solid blog post +1
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<garbas> tnx! much appreciated
<m3tti> hi nixers! how could i get a python package working? e.g i'm trying to install python and python27packages.potr
<m3tti> but if i try to import potr it doesn't work
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<garbas> m3tti: try "nix-shell -p python27packages.potr"
<garbas> that should put you in "virtualenv" where you can import potr
<m3tti> but i need potr for jabber-otr in emacs
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<garbas> m3tti: are you running nixos or using nix on some linux distro?
<garbas> or darwin
<m3tti> i'm using nixos
<m3tti> so linux
<kmicu> m3tti: if it does not work then jabber-otr is not properly packaged. You can file an issue about the error.
<m3tti> ah kmicu jabber-otr should be available in the nix cache too
<m3tti> ok maybe i should switch to my good old friend
<m3tti> bitlbee
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<garbas> m3tti: if you want i can help you fix it in nixpkgs
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<kmicu> Ah, so you are not using jabber-otr from Nixpkgs. Then you can make potr available in global python, but that requires manually setting up some environment variables.
<m3tti> ok how?
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<kmicu> Probably by using PYTHONPATH and the answer is somewhere in http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#python ― garbas should know what to do *exactly* :)
<kmicu> If you install ‘python.withPackages(p: [ p.potr ])’ then it should work. What’s your nixos version (execute ‘nixos-version’)?
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<kmicu> FRidh is also good with Python infra. ^^
<garbas> +1 ... dont play with env variables, but rather create new python interpreter (as you would with virtualenv, but in nix you use withPackages)
* garbas is left with one thing that i didn't manage to do this year: package bugzilla
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/96c8e1982836bf0b5e4c8614f5ca995d252f9fdd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 96c8e19 Peter Simons: libtecla: update to version 1.6.3...
<garbas> i guess i will look at perl this xmas
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<FPtje> Does nixops have an automatic rollback system? (or has anyone gotten such thing to work with it?) I want a system to automatically roll back after a some amount of time unless explicitly told not to
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<asymmetric> hi fellaz, i'm trying to use mpv on a ubuntu machine using nix, but i get the error "libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so"
<asymmetric> any ideas how to debug?
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<garbas> FPtje: hmm i had this piece of configuration somewhere
<garbas> damn it was (probably still is) on my old leptop
<jophish> is a leptop a computer which doesn't interact via the strong force?
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<garbas> FPtje: i think i used systemd timer and some custom 10 line bash script
<FPtje> garbas, that's what I'm trying, but how would you "commit"? i.e. tell the system not to roll back
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<garbas> FPtje: oh i only did this for auto updating
<garbas> so i hooked into pre/post steps of nixos-update unit
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<garbas> in some known location i created a symlink to where i should rollback to
<garbas> and then to disable a an auto rollback i just deleted that symlink
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<FPtje> Alright, thanks!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas opened pull request #21354: apacheHttpdPackages.mod_perl: init at 2.0.10 (master...mod-perl) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21354
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<garbas> FPtje: i was thinking of having this auto update service with auto rollback for my RPi setup
<garbas> FPtje: what is your usecase?
<FRidh> jophish: makes you wonder what keeps his leptop together
<FPtje> garbas, nixops on an RPi with automatic rollback
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<garbas> FPtje: :) looks like the same usecase. but i never had time to install nixos on rpi
<FRidh> asymmetric: I think applications that require libGL do not work on non-NixOS https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/9415
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9f1880039fef079927ffb746f8b95a4ce4983fa3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f18800 Peter Simons: maude: update to version 2.7
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<garbas> asymmetric: FRidh: i guess libgl would have to be the same version as the one used on the system right?
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/45276777 can you restart? seeing if its failure is reproducible.
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* kmicu is frozen in disbelief that CSO does not have keys for CI system.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas opened pull request #21355: [WIP] bugzilla (master...bugzilla) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21355
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<gchristensen> kmicu: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] garbas closed pull request #21354: apacheHttpdPackages.mod_perl: init at 2.0.10 (master...mod-perl) https://git.io/v1hQC
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<offlinehacker[m]> @copumpkin I want to build kext on osx with nix, have you tried anything like this before, or do you have some ideas how can I do that?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 5 new commits to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/5d03aab04497...c8fe55f1c58f
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 831571c Marcin Janczyk: keepass: 2.33 -> 2.34...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 02a5759 Franz Pletz: libksba: 1.3.4 -> 1.3.5...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 fac3294 Peter Hoeg: gnu global: 6.5.4 -> 6.5.5...
<gchristensen> niksnut: can you try rebuilding https://hydra.nixos.org/build/45276777? I'm pretty sure this failure is unique to that run, not due to namespacing or anything else.
<gchristensen> niksnut: also: I would be interested in the ability to rerun jobs myself, if that is an option, but we don't need to discuss that if you don't want to.
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<phanimahesh> where's ghc-mod in nix?
<phanimahesh> searching with nox hasn't produced anything
<LnL> haskellPackages.ghc-mod
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<srhb> Can I somehow point nixos-container at a different nixpkgs? It seems to ignore NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=...
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<phanimahesh> LnL: Thanks. Any idea why it didn't show up in nox?
<ixxie> LnL: I am trying to implement this gist you gave me https://gist.github.com/LnL7/65826c93d58cfd32e6cc5d1a2602d434
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<ixxie> LnL: at the moment I understand it would try and call a default.nix derivation in the project folder, but all I really need is for it to call a script
<LnL> phanimahesh: you can find all of hackage in the haskellPackages set, that are a lot of packages so they are not searched by default
<phanimahesh> okay. thanks
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<ixxie> LnL: maybe there is something like callPackage to call a bash script? I don't even know if that makes any sense xD
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<LnL> ixxie: not sure what you mean, if you want to put something in the store you need a derivation
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<LnL> there is a function that just calls a script at build time
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<LnL> eg. runCommand "foo" {} "echo foo > $out"
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<ixxie> LnL: I guess what I am asking is how to make a derivation for a basic bash script
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<Claas> o/, is someone successfully running a wine 64bit package on nixos ?
<aristid> garbas: your latest commit totally confused me, with the Dec 15 date :)
<garbas> aristid: :) sry, i just have things laying around until i actually find time to push the to nixpkgs
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<aristid> garbas: no worries, it just caused me to check my branch and do another git-pull :D
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<niksnut> gchristensen: done
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<gchristensen> thank you, niksnut!
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<ixxie> are there any tutorials or examples out there for packaging a bash script?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master af2ecc2 Thomas Tuegel: kde5.kdeWrapper: use small symlink farms...
<gchristensen> niksnut: hrmm... it passed right away. Is there a way to re-trigger the rest of the jobs depending on that passage, or must I submit a "bogus" change to go to trigger that sort of event?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 59ca5d2 Jason Daniel Augustine Gilliland: freebayes: init at 1.1.0...
<niksnut> gchristensen: I've restarted all failed builds
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #21225: freebayes: init at 1.1.0 (master...freebayes) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21225
<gchristensen> thank you so much!
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<zimbatm> hey, who controls the nixos twitter handle? it would be helpful to get some retweets of our nixos london meetup: https://twitter.com/zimbatm/status/809348853795344384
<xeviox> hi guys, I've installed docker but the demon does not run by default, how can I enable it in the config?
<zimbatm> xeviox: set `virtualisation.docker.enable = true;` in your configuration.nix
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<zimbatm> you can find that kind of things by going on http://nixos.org/nixos/options.html and search for the service that you want to use
<zimbatm> if you don't want to type sudo all of the time, also add the "docker" group in your user's extraGroups = [ "docker" ];
<zimbatm> users.users.<name?>.extraGroups
<xeviox> zimbatm, damn I used gpasswd as suggested in one wiki :(
<xeviox> thanks for the info!
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<zimbatm> oh yeah, ignore the wiki
<zimbatm> it's read-only and very out of date by now
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] avnik opened pull request #21358: wineUnstable: 1.9.23 -> 2.0-rc2 (master...wine-update) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21358
<xeviox> zimbatm, I already have "virtualisation.docker.enable = true;" in my config :/
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<zimbatm> ps aux | grep docker
<zimbatm> you should see the docker daemon
<xeviox> but I don't :(
<xeviox> (as root)
<zimbatm> ah yes I forgot, socket activation :)
<viric> niksnut: our gcc wrappers are broken when using @list
<xeviox> thats why I thought there might be something additional needed
<zimbatm> systemd will start docker if you access /var/run/docker.sock
<xeviox> ah ok
<zimbatm> so `sudo docker ps` should do the trick
<xeviox> jup works with root
<xeviox> maybe it didn't work because of the missing group in the configuration
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] avnik opened pull request #21359: zfs: 0.6.5.8 -> 0.7.0-rc2 (master...upgrade/zfs) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21359
<srhb> Isn't docker socket activation still broken?
<zimbatm> xeviox: yeah you need to log out and back again for the system to associate the new group with your account
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<zimbatm> socket activation works fine for me
<viric> niksnut: if you use @list to supply the list of objects to link, then g++ generates a @list for all the parameters of the call to 'ld', and the wrappers don't add the -rpath lines.
<zimbatm> on the 16.04 branch
<xeviox> srhb, did also work for me
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<srhb> Guess I should try out socketActivation = true; soon then.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #21358: wineUnstable: 1.9.23 -> 2.0-rc2 (master...wine-update) https://git.io/v1hx4
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/59ca5d213f99...6ed4339e8f9a
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 76b5f2c Alexander V. Nikolaev: wineUnstable: 1.9.23 -> 2.0-rc2...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6ed4339 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #21358 from avnik/wine-update...
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<zimbatm> I don't see any issue with the ticket
<zimbatm> I mean it's a systemd behaviour
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<zimbatm> docker.socket and docker.service both need to be restarted
<zimbatm> how often do you restart the docker daemon?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] makefu opened pull request #21360: services.nginx: allow startup with ipv6 disabled (master...services/nginx/ipv6) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21360
<zimbatm> I also set `virtualisation.docker.storageDriver = "overlay";` because it's faster
<xeviox> zimbatm: thanks for the info, will use it too :D
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<xeviox> there was some page selling nixos "marketing" stuff like cups, but I couldn't find it anymore.. Can some give me the link?
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<xeviox> s/some/someone
<gchristensen> xeviox: from the topic: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/NixOS
<CMCDragonkai> [gchristensen, irc.freenode.net] xeviox: from the topic: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/NixOS
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<m3tti> hi whats the recomended way to install global modules for nodejs in nix
<m3tti> ?
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<domenkozar> m3tti: using nix.
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<fpletz> gchristensen: nope :)
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<CMCDragonkai> [fpletz, irc.freenode.net] gchristensen: nope :)
<fpletz> gchristensen: I'm currently busy with the 33c3 buildup, so not online much
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<CMCDragonkai> [fpletz, irc.freenode.net] gchristensen: I'm currently busy with the 33c3 buildup, so not online much
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<avn> fpletz: I PR'ed zfs update to RC, not sure if it enough good for merge, but works for me on 4.9
<avn> (altough I affraid to do `zpool upgrade`)
<CMCDragonkai> [Debian User, irc.freenode.net] fpletz: I PR'ed zfs update to RC, not sure if it enough good for merge, but works for me on 4.9
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<fpletz> avn: we already have that version running (with upgrade), no problems so far :)
<fpletz> avn: we like to live dangerously (and we have backups!)
<CMCDragonkai> [fpletz, irc.freenode.net] avn: we already have that version running (with upgrade), no problems so far :)
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<IITaudio> Hi, is there a reason why git-wip is not in the repo? (https://github.com/bartman/git-wip/blob/master/git-wip)
<fpletz> CMCDragonkai: please fix your client
<gchristensen> CMCDragonkai: you ok there? you're acting like a parot :)
<avn> fpletz: you have great nixos production? ;)
<CMCDragonkai> [realname, irc.freenode.net] Hi, is there a reason why git-wip is not in the repo? (https://github.com/bartman/git-wip/blob/master/git-wip)
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<m3tti> domenkozar: but how there is no purescript package in nix cache
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] KentJames opened pull request #21361: gnuchess and xboard on Darwin (master...chess_darwin) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21361
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<IITaudio> git-sh-setup does not work because of git-sh-i18n not being executable, is this somewhat intended?
<CMCDragonkai> [realname, irc.freenode.net] git-sh-setup does not work because of git-sh-i18n not being executable, is this somewhat intended?
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<LnL> domenkozar: do you have some cpu cycles to test #21351 with your project?
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<domenkozar> in a few days, sadly :/
<LnL> I just noticed that peti's haskell jobset doesn't include darwin
<domenkozar> we can fix that
<CMCDragonkai> [L0CKnL0aD7, irc.freenode.net] I just noticed that peti's haskell jobset doesn't include darwin
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c52195d James Kent: gnuchess and xboard definitely work on darwin
<domenkozar> right now I'm fighting windows..
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #21361: gnuchess and xboard on Darwin (master...chess_darwin) https://git.io/v1jfR
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<LnL> sounds scary
<copumpkin> offlinehacker[m]: nope! curious about your use case though :)
<copumpkin> offlinehacker[m]: I do have a nearly finished complete kernel build though, which I plan on pushing up over the upcoming break
<CMCDragonkai> [L0CKnL0aD7, irc.freenode.net] sounds scary
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<_habnabit> from earlier: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/rBOgJEtjnFhVnHxd3CpW/ installing i686 nix seems.. broken? i'm able to run other i686 binaries without issue. can someone else confirm?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lverns opened pull request #21362: Rstudio add desktop file (master...rstudio-add-desktop-file) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21362
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<CMCDragonkai> [_Harold Abnabit, irc.freenode.net] from earlier: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/rBOgJEtjnFhVnHxd3CpW/ installing i686 nix seems.. broken? i'm able to run other i686 binaries without issue. can someone else confirm?
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<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: I'm creating kernel module for darwin. I just built the xnu with nix, and I can see that kernel is missing.
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<copumpkin> yeah, the current xnu derivation is just the headers
<LnL> oh didn't you have somthing that could build xnu?
<copumpkin> mostly because the kernel was tricky to build up until recently (I need to finish the push to get llvm 3.8 integrated)
<FPtje> I can't find an option to not start a defined systemd service. I can set "enabled" to false, but then I can't start it manually anymore. I want to be able to start it manually, but not have it started by default
<copumpkin> it doesn't build on llvm 3.7
<LnL> ah that's why
<copumpkin> gchristensen: ?
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<copumpkin> gchristensen: why ban?
<gchristensen> domenkozar: I messaged CMCDragonkai about his client and asked him to fix the issue, offering to unban straight away.
<gchristensen> copumpkin: he's being a parrot and joining / leaving every couple minutes
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<copumpkin> ah
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<copumpkin> their IRC client has always been weird, but never seen the parroting behavior before today
<domenkozar> FPtje: you specify multi-target as wanted
<LnL> copumpkin: about llvm 3.8 have you had a chance to look at libauto?
<copumpkin> nope, no chance to do anything, even fix the xhyve thing :)
<copumpkin> break coming up though so will try then
<copumpkin> have a giant list of todos
<LnL> allright
<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: I was building kernel with xcode because xnu kernel symbols from Apple are basically useless, as they do not contain source code, and if you compare with source, they do not match
<copumpkin> boo
<LnL> I suspect the new sdk might also work better with llvm 3.8
<copumpkin> offlinehacker[m]: well, you'll still need symbols that match the running kernel
<copumpkin> so the nix solution isn't ideal
<copumpkin> because its xnu is almost never going to be the one that your OS is running
<domenkozar> copumpkin: LnL: did you ever link haskell C libs statically and dynamically?
<copumpkin> nope
<LnL> ^ same
<domenkozar> I'm getting adventerous, need to statically link everything but dynamically link darwin stuff
<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: then I saw xnu in nix and thought I could compile it with nix, look like not yet, but still great job. What is missing for full kernel compilation?
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<copumpkin> offlinehacker[m]: mostly LLVM 3.8 and some other hackery (like I think I ended up turning off its attempts to do LTO because our LLVM didn't have it at the time)
<copumpkin> I can't remember exactly, can check on my other computer later
<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: I'm replacing kernel with my own
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<copumpkin> ah nice
<copumpkin> I never tried booting the kernel I built :)
* hodapp prepares to nuke Arch Linux...
<ixxie> I am still trying to find a simple way to build a shell script into a package; I have been looking at how the basic nixos tools are implemented (https://github.com/NixOS/nixos/blob/master/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix )
<copumpkin> the issue with 3.7 is that Apple's LLVM has patches that they only upstreamed in 3.8
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<copumpkin> since Apple's a major contributor to LLVM I think they do a lot of work on it and then upstream it in batches
<copumpkin> or something
<offlinehacker[m]> Ahh ok
<ixxie> I am wondering if there is something like this makeProg in any of the boilerplate
<ixxie> it cannot be that difficult to package a bare shell script
<copumpkin> offlinehacker[m]: anyway, I can definitely put the expression up later when I find it, if you want to tinker, but it depends on the 3.8 work that's still pending
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<copumpkin> mostly because it needs a cctools that uses llvm 3.8, which generally forces a full rebuild of the stdenv
<copumpkin> or you can "fork" cctools and llvm and pass the right versions into a forked xnu
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<copumpkin> which is how I was running it back in the day
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<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: that could work. It would help me a lot of you could share expression.
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<FPtje> domenkozar, failed to add dependency on multi-target, ignoring: invalid argument when setting it "multi-target" as "wants", it just runs on activation when "multi-target" is set as "wantedBy"
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<copumpkin> offlinehacker[m]: okay, I just remembered I'll be traveling tonight but should be able to get you something tomorrow
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<FPtje> wait, maybe I need to set Type=oneshot
<offlinehacker[m]> No problem, It's no hurry, but it would still be awesome if I could build kernel and driver with nix :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 3 new commits to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/c8fe55f1c58f...1d53704f87cc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 d9721ed cmfwyp: google-fonts: 2015-11-18 -> 2016-08-30...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 81949ef c74d: google-fonts: Fix typos in homepage, description...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 1d53704 Eelco Dolstra: google-fonts: Add a check to ensure that there are no duplicate font names...
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<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: will remind you in next days. If you wonder I'm building a security solution for monitoring activity on osx, while I'm new in osx world and I don't even have osx(running in qemu), it turns out it's not that hard compared with all the windows kernel hackery.
<offlinehacker[m]> *I don't even have mac
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<avn> offlinehacker[m]: would be nice to have darwin+nix, crossbuildable, and enough to check native darwin builds in qemu ;)
<copumpkin> nice :) my motivation for the kernel was to set up a minimal bootable darwin
<copumpkin> much less ambitious than puredarwin
<offlinehacker[m]> copumpkin: cool :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/215b1e519be5bbda6c472de2b851fea3e65d060f
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 215b1e5 Eelco Dolstra: aws-sdk-cpp: 1.0.34 -> 1.0.43...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #21343: kubernetes-helm: 2.0.2 -> 2.1.2 (master...kubernetes-helm-up) https://git.io/v1pD0
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9f200422f28e22cc0e059406bcf0373d3e0444fc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f20042 Richard Lupton: kubernetes-helm: 2.0.2 -> 2.1.2 (#21343)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/compare/2d801bf0a4c2...d0a2db17d919
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 786ee58 Eelco Dolstra: Add comment
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master d0a2db1 Eelco Dolstra: Call Aws::InitAPI...
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<mpickering> Forgive another basic question, I have an executable which fails to load a shared library where can I read in the manual about how to overcome this?
<kmicu> Rogue binaries on FHS‐non‐compliant source based distro are always the worst. http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-fhs-environments is probably the easiest way to handle the issue.
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<mpickering> I am compiling the binary myself so perhaps that is easier?
<LnL> but you also can try to fixup the binary with patchelf
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<Claas> o/ again, found out how wine64 with supported audio should work and building it currently, is already runs for 1h+ on a 4670k with a 16mbits connection, was curious if it is normal to take that long ?
<kmicu> mpickering: If you share more details about package’s *.nix recipe (especially buildInputs) and the missing library then it will be easier to help.
<Claas> *using -j 20 --cores 4
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<kmicu> Usually you could use a binary substitute for Wine.
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<Claas> kmicu: wine64 is not integrated in hydra so i guess i have to build it my self ?
<kmicu> Then the build time should be almost identical to build time on other GNU/Linux distros.
<mpickering> kmicu: The executable is produced by a makefile in the GHC testsuite and it fails to load libgmp
<mpickering> I am using the ghcHEAD derivation to setup the environment
<mpickering> which works for the main build but then you can't run any tests
<kmicu> Do you have the same problem with the latest official GHC release?
<mpickering> With "ghc" I can build the executable fine and it works correctly. Maybe the problem is that the makefile builds the file using the just build development compiler
<mpickering> yes, any executable built with the dev compiler fails to load libgmp
<kmicu> Please, file an issue to document the problem with development version of GHC and libgmp \cc peti
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<kmicu> (Maybe Backpack related changes introduced a regression.)
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<mpickering> ok I got it, I had to run "fixupPhase" as well
<mpickering> thanks for listening, you solved it!
<mpickering> Now all the tests fail but I'll carry on trying to work it out
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<Judson1> Is there a known issue with Chromium and NET::ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED?
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<kmicu> (That does not explain how it worked with a regular GHC and w/o a fixupPhase though, but if it works, nvm that.)
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<mpickering> maybe it didn't work
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<mpickering> oh of course it didn't .. it only looked like it did because I build the executable with "ghc" rather than the one I just built
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nico202 opened pull request #21363: hhpc: init at 0.3.1 (master...hhpc) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21363
<Judson1> I haven't been able to put my finger on it, but I notice that certain applications get "stuck" on old version of other apps - e.g. dmenu_run launches a previous version of Chromium
<Judson1> And updating fish wasn't enough - I think I had to logout and log in again?
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<Judson1> a) Why? b) Is there an easier fix than effectively rebooting after updates?
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<hodapp> hrmph. EFI install and now my SSD device isn't appearing on the first boot :(
<Judson1> Strike that: chromium --version says "55" but running chromium launches a window that says "53"
<hodapp> "Device /dev/nvme0p2 doesn't exist or access denied", "starting device mapper and LVM..."
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<hodapp> ....oh, that might be because that's not a real device X_X
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aszlig pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/9f200422f28e...603dbfc5a9ea
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c39e36f devhell: {lib}mediainfo{-gui},libzen: 0.7.87 -> 0.7.91, 0.4.33 -> 0.4.34...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 603dbfc aszlig: Merge pull request #21236 (Update mediainfo)...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aszlig closed pull request #21236: {lib}mediainfo{-gui},libzen: 0.7.87 -> 0.7.91, 0.4.33 -> 0.4.34 (master...mediainfo) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21236
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<hodapp> wtffff, did this thing just boot in like 2 seconds
<k0001> Is nixpkgs 16.09 working fine on OS X sierra? I see there's been some significant fixes in `master`, like https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/19470 , but it doesn't look like those changes were backported to 16.09.
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<johnw> can I both inherit a package, and override a parameter, at the same time?
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<johnw> i.e., inherit foo { param = value; }?
<johnw> I'm looking at inherit (ocaml-ng.ocamlPackages_4_02) verasco;
<johnw> but I need to override its "coq" argument
<ToxicFrog> hodapp: yeah, I noticed that Nix boots *way* faster than SUSE on the same hardware
<ToxicFrog> Probably because it defaults ~everything to off
<ToxicFrog> I've had to explicitly turn on a lot more things like wifi and touchpad support.
<hodapp> ToxicFrog: I noticed it on my laptop (where it replaced Fedora) first
<hodapp> but my desktop had Arch which also tends to not have anything
<hodapp> the installer also seemed to handle EFI just fine
<hodapp> I feel like in the past I've had to do a lot more to get anything to work right
<hodapp> (that is, for other distros on EFI/UEFI)
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<johnw> ah: verasco = ocaml-ng.ocamlPackages_4_02.verasco.override { coq = ... }
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<ToxicFrog> I've never had any problems with EFI on SUSE, but on the other hand booting from ZFS was a complete trainwreck
<ToxicFrog> And in Nix it was a one-line edit to hardware-configuration.nix and then it Just Worked.
<hodapp> I haven't used SuSe
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<hodapp> not using ZFS on Linux either, though my BSD box has it
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<hodapp> next gauntlet: Nvidia drivers, blugh
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<ambro718> nvidia drivers are almost a one-liner in NixOS
<hodapp> ALMOST
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<ambro718> hodapp: I say almost, because you may also want "hardware.opengl.driSupport32Bit = true;" or may have to use a legacy driver instead of the newest series. All is documented in the manual.
<hodapp> I'll check it out
<hodapp> for now, I'm un-fux0ring my Emacs config, having discovered NixOS has a section in the manual on this!
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4888bfe John Wiegley: coq_8_6: 8.6 is now default, 8.4 optional, updated mathcomp/ssreflect...
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<mpickering> kmicu: I forgot to call "patchShebangs"
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<Rotaerk> ricky martin?
<hodapp> I guess the next important step in me learning NixOS is that I need to royally screw something up so I have to learn to fix it
<ambro718> unfortunately fixing it will just involve booting an older configuration in grub :)
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<hodapp> I'M NOT USING GRUB YOU INSENSITIVE CLOD
<hodapp> yeah, it looks to be a simple matter, but it is important that I understand how it works, how to use it effectively, and what its limitations are
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f06284b John Wiegley: coq_8_6: Use ocamlPackages_4_03 rather than 4_01
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<dtzWill> ambro718: LOL I was writing comment on HN suggesting that guy comes to IRC to sort things out :)..... and just saw you discussing 32bit openGL here as well! haha
<ambro718> good :)
<dtzWill> (the HN post, for the curious: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13238115 )
<dtzWill> "wait that guy's name looks like the guy who was talking about it on IRC a short while ago..."
<dtzWill> O:)
<ambro718> dtzWill: I replied to that guy on HN :)
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<dtzWill> crazy coincidence that you were discussing "hardware.opengl.driSupport32bit = true;" on both IRC as well as on HN at basically the same time :P
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<mpickering> Where can I find the definition of mkDerivation?
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<copumpkin> mpickering: stdenv/generic
<copumpkin> it's mostly just a fat wrapper around the primitive derivation though
<copumpkin> which is defined in nix, in terms of a real primitive called derivationStrict
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<copumpkin> https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/corepkgs/derivation.nix is the thing I was talking about
<mpickering> I'm trying to work out what unpackSources does other than clone the sources
<kmicu> The chapter is actually called ‘Derivations’ http://nixos.org/nix/manual/#ssec-derivation
<kmicu> Generic builder’s unpack phase in described on http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#ssec-unpack-phase
<hodapp> interesting... so it sounds like with something like "nixos-rebuild switch -p foo" I could maintain, say, a Nouveau configuration alongside my Nvidia configuration
<hodapp> and choose one at boot
<hodapp> it mentions that with GRUB it will make a sub-menu for that profile, but I don't know if it does it with systemd-boot (as I'm on EFI)
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<kmicu> mpickering: if you are interested in Haskell’s generic builder then check https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/generic-builder.nix
<mpickering> I want the normal one as the compiler is built with stdenv.mkDerivation I think
<hodapp> also, how many older profiles are kept around in my boot menu?
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<kmicu> Iirc for systemd-boot the sky… EFI partition size is the limit.
<hodapp> ahh, I suppose I shall have to learn to prune those then
<dtzWill> thought it was 100?
<kmicu> For GRUB there is 100 as the default limit.
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<dtzWill> ah, thank you yes :)
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<hodapp> hm, is there any way to just give a configuration a name - but not necessarily as a separate profile like with -p that I want to be tracked separately?
<hodapp> I guess I could just manually edit the boot entry
<mpickering> kmicu: thanks for all this help
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<kmicu> From related learning materials there is also http://lethalman.blogspot.com.es/2014/08/nix-pill-8-generic-builders.html
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<mpickering> I read all the nix pills now and the medium article, is there anything else or should I dive into the manual?
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<kmicu> Definitely, Nix and Nixpkgs manuals and at least their TOCs. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
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<rardiol> is there a command to tell linux to load everything in swap back on ram immediately? or at least something that makes firefox faster when waking from hibernation?
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<hodapp> err, there is the swappiness parameter in the kernel, but I don't know how much that will do
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<ToxicFrog> rardiol: you can swapoff(8) the swap file/partition and that will force it to drag everything in swap back into ram
<ToxicFrog> (don't forget to swapon it again afterwards)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/f06284b0dc28...94fbbb2ed648
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dfe1f72 Graham Christensen: all-packages: Whitespace pruning
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 94fbbb2 Graham Christensen: linux_3_12: Drop already applied patches
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/74bbeee870c24a9437c74a1186f0c63867c43d8e
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 74bbeee Graham Christensen: linux_3_12: Drop already applied patches...
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<_habnabit> wait is it possible to get a SIGABRT/SIGILL from libc using syscalls that are too new for my kernel?
<LnL> does the nixos iso run an ssh server by default?
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<mpickering> kmicu: There was actually a bug in GHC which was causing it, so my bad for not applying the patches
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<gchristensen> domenkozar, fpletz: what do you think of this formatting? https://gist.github.com/grahamc/44b17b2790aa8898d7b17ffa91854bfdb
<gchristensen> also, anyone, like kmicu
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<LnL> that link doesn't work
<gchristensen> ... why not
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<LnL> ah
<LnL> looks pretty good
<gchristensen> is it clear where the branch changes?
<LnL> well I didn't notice, so perhaps not?
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<gchristensen> :) any suggestions?
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<LnL> I think a bit less whitespace in between each commit might help
<gchristensen> updated
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<LnL> yeah that might be better
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<gchristensen> I agree
<gchristensen> I don't really _like_ the leading "* "'s but it makes it much easier to see the transition I think?
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<LnL> yes, probably
<gchristensen> LnL: http://ix.io/1O2G
<gchristensen> domenkozar, fpletz: updated ^
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<hodapp> https://www.codejam.info/2015/12/installing-nixos-on-a-kimsufi.html ooh! That looks preferable to AWS at least for a piddly little personal server I'd probably run
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<mpickering> What exactly is nixpkgs-unstable? Is it just the github nixpkgs repo?
<LnL> it's the latest version of master where a small set of packages where built successfully
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jwiegley pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/94fbbb2ed648...3876b4dd94f1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9a167a3 John Wiegley: coq_8_6: Use ocamlPackages, rather than a specific version
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3876b4d John Wiegley: coq, coqPackages: Roll default back to 8.4, until ssreflect is building
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<m3tti> hi there how could i search for nodePackages in nix?
<m3tti> i've tried nix-env -qaP | grep nodePackages.pulp
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<m3tti> and doesn't get any results
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<LnL> m3tti: nix-env -qaP -A nodePackages
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<mpickering> if I set "nix.nixPath" in "configuration.nix" why isn't $NIX_PATH changed when I nixos-rebuild switch?
<m3tti> error: attribute ‘nodePackages’ in selection path ‘nodePackages.pulp’ not found
<LnL> mpickering: I think you might have to start a new shell
<LnL> m3tti: add -f '<nixpkgs>'
<mpickering> LnL: Thanks arghhhh
<mpickering> btw do most people use channels or a local checkout of nixpkgs?
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<mpickering> It seems more convenient to me to have a checkout I can easily modify but not sure this is something that people usually do
<m3tti> LnL: so what can i do if i need some diffrent node modules like pm2 is there a way to get this into nix
<LnL> I use a local checkout, but most people use channels
<LnL> m3tti: you can generate expressions using https://github.com/svanderburg/node2nix
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/556ca974aa0750c7a120d952601ebaacd1a658c3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 556ca97 Joachim Fasting: linux_3_12: add back bridge_stp_helper patch...
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<mpickering> So I added the nixos-unstable channel and updated it. All going fine so far. I can then get a later version of ghcHEAD with nix-env -iA haskell.compiler.ghcHEAD but now I can't do nix-shell -A haskell.compiler.ghcHEAD
<mpickering> what have a broken?
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<mpickering> ok it seems I have to do nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A haskell.compiler.ghcHEAD
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<mpickering> '<nixpkgs>' still evaluates to the old channel.. I don't understand this at all
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<LnL> what does your NIX_PATH look like?
<LnL> nix-env -A foo should use your local directory, not nixpkgs
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<mpickering> nixpkgs=/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs:nixos-config=/etc/nixos/configuration.nix:/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels
<mpickering> --update says that it downloads the channel and makes the packages the default
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sh01 opened pull request #21366: digikam: Add patch to fix compilation against Lensfun 0.3.2 (master...digikam_patch_lensfun_0.3.2) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21366
<sheenobu> I want to get mic status in my i3bar
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<hodapp> hrmph. https://github.com/jeaye/nixos-in-place went further than the manual instructions I tried, but still left the VPS unbootable
<hodapp> perhaps because I ran it in rescue mode, which has temporary disks that change device names later or something like that
<hodapp> I'd love to not run in rescue mode, but OVH's management console has been stuck at the part where I can reinstall Linux onto the VPS
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