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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] zimbatm opened pull request #21111: goBuildPackage: remove go version from name (master...go-plain-name) https://git.io/v1iFH
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<himmAllRight>
Hi everyone! does anybody know the format I need for boot.loader.grub.extraEntries? I am trying to dual boot with an already installed ubuntu mate instance
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<AtnNn>
himmAllRight: my `extraEntries' just contains a grub menuentry
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<jazzencat>
If I get NixOS successfully installed on a VM, can I then take that configuration and clone the setup to a physical machine?
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<simpson>
jazzencat: You can take the configuration.nix and use that to build your NixOS environment on a physical machine.
<simpson>
jazzencat: Taking the *exact* expression from your VM is not the best idea, because your VM might have e.g. the wrong kernel or wrong networking configuration.
<angerman>
how would I create a shell with postgresql in it? Ideally spinning up postgres upon entering the shell and shitting it down upon exiting.
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<AtnNn>
angerman: you can use nixos-container instead of nix-shell for that
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<angerman>
AtnNn well, I'm not on nixos.
<jazzencat>
Well, last attempt to install it on this laptop didn't work out so I was going to try running a Xen hypervisor on the thing and install NixOS to that and then clone it.
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<simpson>
jazzencat: You *can*, but I have zero idea how well it will work. I also don't know what didn't work last time; it might not be tractable to fix it this way.
<jazzencat>
Okay. If I can install NixOS using a full-featured live environment I could have IRC running during the process.
<jazzencat>
The NixOS LiveCD is rudimentary.
<shlevy>
jazzencat: nix-env -i irssi :)
<shlevy>
(from the livecd)
<jazzencat>
Ah.
<simpson>
Yeah, the livecd's nix-env is fully operational.
<simpson>
Well, hm. You might not be able to run e.g. a Docker daemon. I'm not sure. But yeah, an IRC client should be available.
<shlevy>
Should be able to run a docker daemon
<shlevy>
You can do nixos-rebuild switch
<shlevy>
and edit /etc/nixos/configuration.nix
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<AtnNn>
angerman: you could use `shellHook' to start `postgres -D ... &' and `trap EXIT' to kill it
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<angerman>
AtnNn thanks, I'll give this a shot.
<eacameron>
Is there a way to point "nixpkgs=..." to a channel for 16.09 (i.e. it will get updated with security updates, etc.)?
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<bendlas>
is packagekit failing to build for anybody else on master?
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<alesguzik>
Hi. I try to use rbenv to install ruby and some gems, and ruby build fails because it can't compile openssl, readline and zlib extensions. I've added openssl, readline and zlib to environment.systemPackages in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix, but that doesn't work
<alesguzik>
also `pkg-config --list-all` doesn't show openssl, readline and zlib
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<alesguzik>
anyone?
<alesguzik>
general question is just how would you compile c code that uses dynamic libraries in nixos without using nix?
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<AtnNn>
alesguzik: if you have the libraries installed locally, you can sometimes get awway with `export LIBRARY_PATH=~/.nix-profile/lib'
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<jazzencat>
Here's the partition scheme I have set up: 400MB ext4 for boot, 16GB swap (so I can suspend to disk) and the rest as btrfs for /nixos
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<jazzencat>
If I have a separate boot partition do I need to mount it as well and do anything special for the install process that isn't listed in the manual?
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<AtnNn>
jazzencat: I believe it should be mounted at `/mnt/boot' before the hardware scan
<jazzencat>
Thanks, that probably explains the fail message when trying to install GRUB 2
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<jazzencat>
Okay GRUB 2 fails to install. Warning file system ext2 doesn't support embedding (/boot is formatted as ext3). Then error: will not proceed with blocklists. Installation of GRUB on /dev/sda1 failed.
<jazzencat>
Should I just go with two partitions: swap and /?
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<AtnNn>
jazzencat: you should install grub onto your disk, not your partition (e.g. `/dev/sda', not `/dev/sda1')
<AtnNn>
`/boot' contains the grub config, not grub itself
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<jazzencat>
What groups should I add my user to?
<jazzencat>
I'm thinking of replacing NetworkManager with connman since I want to use Enlightenment Desktop.
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<jazzencat>
Hm... how do I tell nix to install a package to the mounted root partition?
<jazzencat>
And I want my system to make use of connman for network connections.
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<jazzencat>
Okay, NixOS isn't booting up after installing. Install finished without error.
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<eacameron>
Can someone remind me what the difference between the -small and the not "-small" channels is?
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<Rotaerk>
IIRC, small passes tests, non-small is also built?
<Rotaerk>
err binaries are cached
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<eacameron>
Rotaerk: Hmm...might be
<eacameron>
Oh my goodness...so when do caches get built for macOS users? I just updated my channel and I'm rebuilding the entire OSS community from source.
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<Mic92>
Can somebody retrigger the build for chromium?
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<LnL>
that's probably why then, you should not have that wirh nixpkgs-unstable
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<eacameron>
LnL: ?
<eacameron>
LnL: Oh really?
<LnL>
not sure, I thought that is also built from master
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<LnL>
eacameron: the jobset that includes the build for the nixos-unstable channel only builds linux packages
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<eacameron>
LnL: Good to know!
<LnL>
I guess the latest build was started from a revision with darwin rebuilds that where skipped over by the trunk jobset
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<eacameron>
I somehow botched my nix env such that it can't verify any downloads...
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<eacameron>
That is...the TLS certificates
<clever>
eacameron: which channel are you on?
<clever>
eacameron: ah, LnL already thought the same thing
<eacameron>
clever: Hahah
<eacameron>
Yep.
<eacameron>
clever: Well I'll bet this time it's just my fault
<eacameron>
clever: I've had issues before where I somehow (maybe?) remove the certificates that nix uses?
<LnL>
eacameron: did you remove cacert?
<eacameron>
LnL: hmmm...YES!
<clever>
nix-env --rollback should be able to undo that
<clever>
then you can just manualy redo the steps you wanted to keep
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<eacameron>
clever: Hahaha chicken and the egg...now of course I can't install it again. But wow rollback is awesome
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<eacameron>
clever: LnL: Oh my...you guys have saved me once again.
<eacameron>
clever: LnL: I was in for a very painful night
<jazzencat>
How would I tell if my computer's BIOS uses EFI or not?
<nekroze>
How do you import a module that is nested in a module, I mean like "{externalIP}:\n{config,...}:{}" I am sure I have seen it somewhere in nixpkgs and I wrote one but I can't find the usage for an example.
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<jazzencat>
The HD I have is unformatted so df /boot/efi doesn't show up
<jazzencat>
And neither do /boot or /efi
<nekroze>
or module nested in a function or whatever the "correct" terminology is :P
<clever>
jazzencat: if you boot the installer ISO in efi mode, you should see something efi related in "mount"
<simpson>
Hey, is there a convenience function somewhere for rolling up propagatedNativeBuildInputs?
<jazzencat>
What should I be looking for in the mount list?
<simpson>
I have my list of inputs but I need to walk the tree of transitive inputs in order to find some paths to feed to a program loader later.
<nekroze>
jazzencat: Generally its a good indicator if you have a bios settings for CSM or some compatability boot mode. When enabled it will support BIOS and UEFI when disabled UEFI only... generally... for consumer gear
<clever>
simpson: i think you can NIX_DEBUG = true; and then nix-build it
<simpson>
clever: I need the paths *in* the builder.
<simpson>
I need to emit the build input paths into an artifact when I'm building these packages.
<jazzencat>
If my computer isn't using EFI can I configure it to use the EFI? I would like to use rEFInd as my bootloader, I have had it on other systems and I liked how it worked.
<simpson>
Right now, I'm about 90% to a concatMap victory. I just realized that maybe there's a builtin or a tool somewhere.
<eacameron>
clever: Just for the record, I'm running this: `NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs-channels/archive/497e6d2f1d149f5fbe004e15fe8c384eed993943.zip nix-shell -p nixops
<eacameron>
clever: maybe I need a newer nix-shell! :P
<LnL>
that should be equivalent to using the nixpkgs commit that the channel was built from
<eacameron>
LnL: One would think!
<LnL>
I wonder if fetchTarball was caching something invalid
<eacameron>
clever: LnL: actually I was using the zip file from GitHub.
<eacameron>
LnL: Sure enough this works fine as well NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://d3g5gsiof5omrk.cloudfront.net/nixpkgs/nixpkgs-17.03pre96825.497e6d2/nixexprs.tar.xz nix-shell -p nixops
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/v1Plk
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 77b32b3 Vladimír Čunát: gnome3*.devhelp: add missing gschemas...
<clever>
eacameron: try fetching the url that works, and the url that doesnt, then unpack both to different directories
<clever>
eacameron: and diff -r them
<eacameron>
clever: ok will do here in a second
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<jazzencat>
Okay, I can't seem to get the install working with a dedicated boot partition for NixOS
<clever>
jazzencat: for EFI to work correctly, the boot partition must be fat32, with the right type, on GPT, and the path to the bootloader has to be set in a firmware variable
<clever>
jazzencat: boot.loader.grub.efiInstallAsRemovable = true; lets you skip the last requirement, to modify the firmware variables
<clever>
eacameron: looks like .git* was removed, and 2 files where added so nixpkgs knows which commit it came from
<clever>
eacameron: they should be identical as far as nix is concerned
<eacameron>
clever: "should"
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<jazzencat>
I wonder if Lenovo b575 are EFI by default
<jazzencat>
gdisk lists GPT as present and MBR protective
<clever>
gpt on its own isnt an indicator of the firmware support
<clever>
i have gpt on all of my recent non-efi systems
<jazzencat>
Some install tutorials for NixOS with LUKS say I need a 1MB partition before /boot with type ef02...
<jazzencat>
I really need a way to verify if the Lenovo is an EFI or not.
<jazzencat>
What does MBR protective mean?
<clever>
in addition to gpt tables, it has an MBR table claiming the entire disk is in use
<clever>
so tools that cant handle gpt will still say the disk has something
<clever>
without that, an MBR only tool may think its a blank disk, and will offer to format it
<eacameron>
clever: LnL: Thanks for your diligent help. We still don't know what it was...but we know (at least macOS users) should use links directly from channels
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<LnL>
I just use master :D
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<clever>
jazzencat: i think ef02 is the bios boot partition, that is for booting GPT drives on non-efi machines
<jazzencat>
New puzzle: I make my partition scheme mount /dev/disk/by-label/nixos /mnt, then mkdir /mnt/boot then mount /dev/disk/by-label/boot /mnt/boot
<jazzencat>
Running the nixos-generate-config gives me a message saying that the existing configuration.nix won’t be overwritten
<clever>
jazzencat: you want nixos-generate-config --root /mnt
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixops] domenkozar pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1Pgj
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixops/master 68e7664 Ryan Artecona: Delay chown of keys until user/group both exist...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixops/master 5308d26 Ryan Artecona: Add service per key to track key dependencies...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixops/master d7081e5 Ryan Artecona: Document `deployment.keys` and friends everywhere
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<domenkozar>
nixops getting lots of love lately :)
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<nekroze>
With nixos I found you can reference another machine in the deployment with `resources.machines.host1` but this is a set, how can I get an IP address from that?
<nekroze>
LnL: I thought that would be the point of it though. why else be able to reference another machine?
<LnL>
domenkozar: do you know who I should ask about the hydra jobset?
<ikwildrpepper>
nekroze: resources.machines.host1.networking.publicIPv4 , I believe
<LnL>
is that available when using dhcp?
<ikwildrpepper>
LnL: if the nixops backend implements it, yes
<LnL>
should probably ask what provider you are using
<LnL>
oh
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<ikwildrpepper>
networking.publicIPv4 is an option set by nixops
<nekroze>
LnL: well nixops is reporting on its IP address when doing a nixops info
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<nekroze>
LnL: I guess that is coming from the execution phase of the deployment not the build...
<LnL>
ikwildrpepper: perhaps I should ask you, I was wondering if I could perhaps get a darwin jobset to test some stdenv changes (like copumpkins)
<nekroze>
ikwildrpepper: I'll try that config
<LnL>
I'm trying to get openssl out of our stdenv, but I'm not sure what impact removing system libraries from cmake has
<ikwildrpepper>
nekroze: needs to be resources.machines.config.host1.networking.publicIPv4
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<nekroze>
ikwildrpepper: its not defined. Looking at the source code of nixops it pulls the machines .config into resources.machines.<name> so you would have been right with the first example but it is not defined sadly.
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<ikwildrpepper>
nekroze: what nixops backend is your machine using?
<nekroze>
container on a remote host
<ikwildrpepper>
ah
<LnL>
oh
<nekroze>
a metal host, as in none
<nekroze>
wait did I do something stupid again
<ikwildrpepper>
don't know much about container backend unfortunately, never use it
<LnL>
nekroze: I'm pretty sure you can get the ip from a container
<nekroze>
LnL: Maybe I should be looking more for container examples then nixops examples... but usually with normal containers you define localAddress... I wonder if nixops does
<ikwildrpepper>
LnL: you mean like copumpkin-wip?
<domenkozar>
LnL: what's the question again?
<domenkozar>
ikwildrpepper: we also have resources.machines and nodes
<domenkozar>
is that the same thing?
<ikwildrpepper>
think so
<ikwildrpepper>
:)
<ikwildrpepper>
I think nodes was still from the time we only had machine resources
<nekroze>
wait I think nodes is above config which is what machines is
<LnL>
ikwildrpepper: yes, I'd like to see what breaks and I don't just want to put it on staging
<ikwildrpepper>
but a lot of code out there still depends on it, so rather not remove it :D
<clever>
ixxie: you can also do with eclipses; with pkgs; [ eclipse-platform eclipse-scala-sdk-40 other stuff ];
<ixxie>
yeah like you suggested at first
<ixxie>
i went that way
<clever>
ixxie: yet another option, make 2 modules, one with envionment.systemPackages = with eclipses; [ eclipse-platform eclipse-scala-sdk-40 ];, one with the other
<clever>
ixxie: and then add both of those to imports
<clever>
nixos will concat each instance of systemPackages for you
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<ixxie>
I guess what I was hoping for is a hierarchical declaration for ease of legibility
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] mdaiter opened pull request #21116: opencv3: pull patches only if necessary (master...cudaOpenCVIf) https://git.io/v1P6V
<ixxie>
so I would rather just go with your original suggestion of having a double with
<ixxie>
I suppose I can always organize the package list under comment headers
<jazzencat>
where do i find the install log?
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<msd>
viric_: Could I please have your thoughts on this? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/21116 <- think it's a better format for patching OpenCV 3, as we should try to minimise the total numbers of patches pulled
<clever>
jazzencat: most of the log isnt saved, it just goes to stdout
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<ixxie>
anyway, thanks clever
<thomassgn>
ikwildrpepper: awesome, thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #21111: buildGoPackage: remove go version from name (master...go-plain-name) https://git.io/v1iFH
<gchristensen>
speaking of hydra, 16.09 has almost 220 failing jobs
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<gchristensen>
"rsapubkey-asn1.h: No such file or directory" :|
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<dockerized>
hello guys, i will develop an application which will read a yaml config and then convert them into a nix expressions file. I couldn't choose a language for this purpose. I want to learn new language beside this so i chouldnt make a choice between Haskell and Go. Which one do you think would be better ?
<joachifm>
better to learn or better for that task?
<dockerized>
both actually :D
<sphalerite>
Why do we have nix-collect-garbage? I just realised that nix-store --gc is actually shorter to type...
<dockerized>
but ofc better for task comes first
<sphalerite>
Better to learn, Haskell :p
<ArdaXi[m]>
Personal preference, really. I don't think either is specifically better suited
<sphalerite>
Better for the task, I think possibly haskell as well? Not sure, but it's a transformation of data and Haskell's pretty good at it
<dockerized>
the only thing i concern is, this project will not be a magical thing so Haskell is a huge package to install etc.. for end user.
<dockerized>
ahh okey.
<ArdaXi[m]>
Nix users are going to be Haskell inclined I imagine
<sphalerite>
^
<ArdaXi[m]>
I prefer Haskell personally but Go is easier to work with people and to use professionally and so on
<sphalerite>
Haskell doesn't have any special runtime dependencies though so if you compile it it'll work even if an end-user doesn't have haskell installed
<dockerized>
sphalerite: good to know that, ty.
<sphalerite>
For the actual transformation I'd use haskell, but if you're going to write a GUI on top of it it's probably better to use a different language
<ArdaXi[m]>
The actual transformation isn't really going to be hugely tricky in either language I think
<dockerized>
this will be just a CLI application.
<gchristensen>
dockerized: really it comes down to use whatever you want to use
<qknight>
i want to use a single package from a different nixpkgs checkout and i totally forgot how to do that. looks something like: hydra = (import <nixpkgs> {}).fetchgit { url,rev,sha }; but i can't recall
<qknight>
anyone can point me to the docs?
<dockerized>
okey guys, thank you for your answers. appreciated
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #21118: linux_{4_8,grsec_nixos}: patch to fix build failure (master...fix-rsa-build-failure) https://git.io/v1PHc
<gchristensen>
fpletz, if you're around ^
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<FRidh>
gchristensen: if I am saying this correct. Sandboxing is only relevant for building; you don't want to be able to access other paths during building. In this case we're look at evaluation, and there you want to be able to refer and import other nix files, and so you can use fetch*. However, here you will need to do the fetching during evaluation time, and Hydra won't permit this with restricted evaluation, unless you use fetchTarball, which is
<FRidh>
an exception.
<sphalerite>
How can I debug scripts like nixpkgs/pkgs/build-support/setup-hooks/multiple-outputs.sh? I tried just adding set -x to the top, but because so many things depend on that file it wanted to rebuild everything at that point
<gchristensen>
FRidh: I thought turning on sandboxing turned on the restricted evaluation, too?
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<qknight>
gchristensen: i'm not in a sandbox but good remark! thanks
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<FRidh>
gchristensen: no, it does not (it's the `restrict-eval` Nix option)
<gchristensen>
ahh I thought it was sandboxing because hydra's nixos-org-configurations don't turn anything else on
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<aloiscochard>
hi all, how should one usually goes about adding an extra kernel modules? I'm trying to add v4l2loopack, so I did add it in my system packages (`linuxPackages.v4l2loopback`), but after that doing a modprobe does not works.
<aloiscochard>
I did also tried to add "v4l2loopback" in the "boot.kernelModules" but it does not seems to have any affect
<aloiscochard>
what am I missing?
<aloiscochard>
(I also tried adding in `boot.initrd.kernelModules`, same)
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<joepie91>
aloiscochard: have you tried specifying linuxPackages.v4l2loopback (reference to the package, not as a string) to kernelModules?
<clever>
joepie91: i have gotten loopback to work before, one sec
<joepie91>
note that I don't know whether this will actually work
<clever>
that was after all of the game logic was added
<clever>
this is a fairly flexible framework
<clever>
it will dynamicaly inspect the code to see which classes you use
<clever>
similar to the gcc linker just deleting unused code
<clever>
gchristensen: and it has a minor problem, they implement c++ destructors, on javascript objects, and to do that, all objects are kept in a global array
<clever>
so you must delete things when your done with them
<gchristensen>
:/
<clever>
the game i saw it used on, didnt, and leaked memory like nuts
* gchristensen
isn't feeling good about this
<clever>
the minification got in the way of me fixing that
<clever>
but unminified, you can track down the leaks and make it run great
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<clever>
i did some pretty crazy things against that codebase, without server access
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1XtK
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 1d0fb40 Michael Raskin: abcl: init at 1.4.0
<IITaudio>
Hi, how do I login with multiple uses on NixOS + i3wm?
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<toogley>
IITaudio: switch to another tty by typing alt + f1 or sth. log into the console with the different user an then start i3wm there.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #20787: rPackages.DescTools does not require X (master...DescTools-does-not-require-X) https://git.io/v1qmF
<clever>
gchristensen: a basic QX app with 1 button compiles down to 739kb, including the images for its themes
<IITaudio>
toogley: cannot open display
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jwiegley pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1Xm4
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 360234d John Wiegley: coq_8_6: new package, based on Coq 8.6rc1
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1Xmu
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 69ce9a9 Graham Christensen: watchman: 4.5.0 -> 4.7.0
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<toogley>
IITaudio: then you have to set the display variable inside that shell. i think that should be "set DISPLAY=:1"
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<IITaudio>
tooley: nope, already tried ..
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<Shell>
how would I swap caps lock and esc on nixos?
<sphalerite>
I tried switching the cpu frequency scaling governor to ondemand by running echo ondemand | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor, but it came back with "invalid argument". "powersave" and "performance" work fine. Why would ondemand not work?
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<clever>
sphalerite: you probably need to "modprobe cpufreq_ondemand" first
<sphalerite>
Hm, it loads the module fine but still says Invalid argument
<clever>
sphalerite: try doing it without tee, just "sudo -i" and echo normaly
<clever>
sphalerite: and check to see which ones are available
<sphalerite>
the same with just sudo -i and echo
<sphalerite>
huh, only performance and powersave
<clever>
what is in the list of available governors?
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<clever>
the drivers might not support it, though ive never run into that myself
<clever>
before ondemand was a thing, i had to run powernowd, which did things in userland via the userspace governor
<sphalerite>
Surely the drivers shouldn't have any influence on which governors are available, only on the actual availability of scaling?
<sphalerite>
hm, the available governors seem to be entirely independent of which modules are loaded. powersave is available even if I rmmod cpufreq_powersave
<sphalerite>
I can't rmmod cpufreq_performance though: rmmod: ERROR: Module cpufreq_performance is builtin.
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<Entroacceptor>
do you have the intel_pstate driver?
<Entroacceptor>
that can't do ondemand
<sphalerite>
not loaded
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<sphalerite>
oh but yeah /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_driver contains intel_pstate
<clever>
sphalerite: what does this say?
<clever>
heh
<sphalerite>
right, that explains it
<clever>
it sounds like that driver ignores all governors, and implements its own
<clever>
my laptop is using acpi-cpufreq
<clever>
and the first laptop i had with cpufreq, would lock up for 700ms, every time the freq changes
<clever>
and "ls -ltrh" was enough to make it bump up to a higher speed
<sphalerite>
ouch
<clever>
then it would drop keyboard events while it tries to make up its mind
<Entroacceptor>
but the pstate driver should give better power saving anyway
<clever>
sometimes, it would drop key release events, and think i was holding a key
<Entroacceptor>
ouch, indeed
<clever>
then key repeat does its job
<sphalerite>
intel_pstate offers only two governors, powersave and performance. Intel claims that the intel_pstate "powersave" is faster than the generic acpi governor with "performance"
<sphalerite>
apparently
<sphalerite>
So I'll just use powersave
<clever>
sounds like they put ondemand into the hardware?
<clever>
and powersave just tells the chip to do whatever it wants?
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<sphalerite>
probably something like that
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<sphalerite>
I do seem to be getting lower frequencies with powersave than with performance (based on eyeballing 2s-interval samples)
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<sphalerite>
and it scales up just fine when I get it to compile stuff. So all is well. Thanks for the pointers!
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<gchristensen>
anyone using composer + nix?
<gchristensen>
ie: have a composer2nix or something
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<gchristensen>
domenkozar / ikwildrpepper: for some reason, kernel builds are timing out on hydra now. is something going wrong? see the latest build of 4.8, 3.12, 3.14: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/44769425
<gchristensen>
the HD speed will bite you, HD speed is important (nix writes lots of '.drv' files) and also single-core performance (for nix-instantiate)
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<eacameron>
gchristensen: Yah that's the one thing I don't like about this...but for $800 I can afford to put in an SSD I think
<gchristensen>
but 2.9ghz is pretty great for that, and SSDs are cehap
<eacameron>
gchristensen: Oh it's only $600 USD it looks like
<roconnor>
If I understood what was written on the issue tracker correctly, using the unstable channel will solve your problem. That said, you will end up on the unstable channel.
<roconnor>
I use the unstable channel; it usually isn't a problem.
<roconnor>
toogley: actually maybe I misunderstood
<roconnor>
toogley: maybe using the 16.09 channel is supposed to work.
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<sphalerite>
Hah, I quit firefox and now the cpu frequency is consistently below 1GHz (it was exceptionally below 1GHz with firefox running)
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<roconnor>
toogley: what does ls -l ~/.nix-defexpr/channels_root/nixos say?
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<roconnor>
toogley: and maybe aslo echo $NIX_PATH
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<toogley>
roconnor: its a link to /nix/store/vjhd4lzsx42plkpj8x2fhh31z99gkavi-nixos-16.09.1229.f52eaf4/nixos
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<buttbutter>
sheenobu: I did that already
<buttbutter>
But I think I just got it to work. :)
<buttbutter>
Didn't realize I had to restart X =/
<sheenobu>
aha. yes
<sheenobu>
i've been chewing on some sort of layer between the display-manager unit and the actual invocation of chosen window or desktop manager. that way you can bounce and upgrade your window manager without restart X
<buttbutter>
Isn't it kind of stupid that you can run xmonad by just setting xmonad.enable = true; but in reality it's totally broken since it won't be able to read your xmonad.hs file?
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<buttbutter>
sheenobu: And that sounds great :D
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<sheenobu>
buttbutter, I don't use xmonad so I don't know how one would fix that. I think in i3, you can specify the config in your nixos config
<Cypi>
Oh. That did it. For some reason, I thought that if it didn't work with "nix-env -iA", it wouldn't with "nix-shell -p"
<Cypi>
thanks
<clever>
Cypi: nix-shell sets up special env variables needed by gcc
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<Cypi>
The other stuff I want to compile is actually managed by another package manager. I guess that means I'll have to do "nix-shell -p" everytime I want to upgrade the stuff managed by this other package manager?
<clever>
Cypi: or write a proper package for it
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<Cypi>
For the other package manager you mean? (otherwise, it would break its management of dependencies)
<Cypi>
I guess it'd be doable
<clever>
Cypi: things like stack and npm are already covered in nixpkgs
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<toogley>
what is the recommended way to run a custom systemd service? use a ~/.config/systemd/ dir?
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<c0bw3b>
you can define your own units directly in your configuration.nix with the systemd.services.<name>.* options
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<toogley>
c0bw3b: ah, nice to know. thanks. and where should i put my custom services then? i mean the unit files.
<c0bw3b>
toogley : nowhere nixos-rebuild would write them for you :)
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<toogley>
c0bw3b: really? well, thats great. :D
<c0bw3b>
toogley: see https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html and search for systemd.services and systemd.targets and systemd.sockets and systemd.timers
<c0bw3b>
toogley: yep it is! the power of declarative config
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<toogley>
c0bw3b: so, does that mean, its expected that units in ~/.config/systemd/user fail with "Failed to start mail.service: Unit mail.service not found." when i start them with "systemctl --user start mail" ?
<c0bw3b>
humm no you should still be able to write them manually
<c0bw3b>
maybe it's a rights issue
<c0bw3b>
see logs in journalctl -u mail.service
<LnL>
ikwildrpepper: my jobset seems to be stuck in the queue, trunk builds fine so I don't think it's the machines
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<toogley>
c0bw3b: ah, okay. (btw. journalctl --user-unit mail.service shows nothing; i recently found an open issue on the nixpks github repo, but i can't find it now)
<c0bw3b>
toogley: never tried to use a user unit TBH... are you sure your user is in the systemd-journal group ?
<c0bw3b>
otherwise you don't have the right to use journalctl
<toogley>
c0bw3b: ah, that might it be.
<gchristensen>
toogley c0bw3b what about journalctl --user --unit
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<gchristensen>
you don't need to be in systemd-journal to use `--user`
<toogley>
gchristensen: no entries
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<c0bw3b>
gchristensen: yheah ok seems right ^^
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<gchristensen>
ikwildrpepper: any thoughts on why hydra's kernel builds are timing out?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] aristidb pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1XA8
<simpson>
Hi! I've written a tiny pkg collection, and it doesn't work right. The expression evaluates fine with nix-build, but my Hydra complains of infinite recursion.
<clever>
gchristensen: that UI is running fully in a browser
<hoNO>
pSub: In the nixops manual I only find instructions for amazon, google, microsoft, hetzner, libvirtd. I havn't heard of netcups. Which section of the manual did you follow?
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<gchristensen>
hoNO: you can also specify "none" and the IP address
<pSub>
yes I did what gchristensen said
<clever>
hoNO: if the type is set to "none" then it will expect nixos to already be on the machine, and it will use nix-copy-closure to deploy to it
<pSub>
I had a preinstalled NixOS on the vserver and with that everything is smooth
<pSub>
hoNO: fyi: netcup is a small provider located in Germany
<LnL>
does anybody know what the difference is between mapAttrsToList and mapAttrsFlatten?
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<pSub>
hoNO: I don't have experience with in-berlin. I have my vserver at netcup for a couple of years now (~6) and I am pretty happy with the cost-benefit ratio
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<offlinehacker[m]>
gchristensen: I could take a look, I used it for media wiki extensions
<gchristensen>
offlinehacker[m]: I'd really appreciate it if you found something :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/v11kJ
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 34b6d7d Franz Pletz: php56: 5.6.28 -> 5.6.29...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 813e63e Franz Pletz: php70: 7.0.13 -> 7.0.14...
<hoNO>
does somebody know why I'm getting this error on rebuilding: ''error: cannot coerce a set to a string, at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs/lib/strings.nix:442:44'' . I just added the attribute 'boot' to the pkgs list in the config.nix
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<eacameron>
clever: I'm copying the contents of an unzip into $out and then trying to copy a folder from another deriv into $out/craft...but it says permission denied :/
<clever>
eacameron: the $out/craft you copied came from the nix store, so its read-only
<clever>
eacameron: which means you cany add things to it on line 34 until you +w it
<clever>
cant*
<eacameron>
clever: ahhh...so when I copy from the nix store I have to chmod that to make it writeable...?
<clever>
eacameron: yeah
<eacameron>
clever: Ah...well that explains a lot of my issues
<clever>
eacameron: also, you dont need to inherit src;, you can also cp -r ${src}/* $out/ as another way of doing it
<eacameron>
clever: cool...great. I'd rather that
<clever>
eacameron: oh, and find has a -delete
<clever>
so you dont need xargs there
<eacameron>
clever: Wow! Awesome!
<eacameron>
clever: Tell me more! ;)
<clever>
and that xargs command would have failed if there was spaces in the path, i always use find -print0 | xargs -0 to fix that
<clever>
it seperates the files with \0
<clever>
but -delete saves a couple processes
<eacameron>
clever: oh my...I think I've actually run into that before and ended up at -print0...but definitely -delete is much easier
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pSub pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v11mb
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] miniBill opened pull request #21129: Fix typo in configuration-hackage2nix.yaml (master...patch-1) https://git.io/v11Y7
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<miniBill>
hello, I'm the "maintainer" for an hackage package. how can I convince hydra to try a newer version of the package I uploaded some days ago?
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<LnL>
the haskell packges are buit from the latest stackage TLS
<LnL>
any specific reason you would want to override it?
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<digitalmentat>
`nixos-rebuild boot` correctly builds my system configuration, but reboots appear to boot up into a rather old config - I verified that /etc/grub/grub.cfg is correct, so I'm very confused
<digitalmentat>
has anyone run into this before?
<clever>
digitalmentat: is /boot mounted correctly?
<clever>
digitalmentat: double-check to see if you have a 2nd /boot filesystem thats not mounted?
<digitalmentat>
I'll double check but this was working fine a few days ago
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<evck>
curious, anyone running nix on a MBP? sort of considering dual booting one...
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<gchristensen>
evck: I am, several people are
<evck>
gchristensen: how does battery life work out? i've read a bit about linux not taking advantage of some mac specific power saving features...
<gchristensen>
it is true that macOS is the industry leader in system and power contrrol
<gchristensen>
nobody else manages power like macOS does. I get probably 2-2 hours on battery on my 11,3 where-as I would get at least 2x that on macOS
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] tohl opened pull request #21130: small fixes (master...master) https://git.io/v1132
<gchristensen>
part of the issue is the discrete GPU is always on in linux, vs. switching in macOS
<hoNO>
hi! I'm trying to deploy a nix-expression vie nixops to a local virtual machine. For this I'm following the nixops manual: http://nixos.org/nixops/manual/#idm140737319345872 However, I'm getting this error: The Virtual
<simpson>
eacameron: What's the difference between hydra-eval-jobs and nix-build though? :c
<hoNO>
I'm running on NixOS. I must mention, that I could not add the 'vboxnet0' to the VirtualBox config, as demanded in the manual some paragraphs before
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<eacameron>
hoNO: Hmm...yah I've never seen that before but I'm newish to nixops myself.
<eacameron>
simpson: Hah no idea.
<eacameron>
simpson: But I'll bet how much of the derivation is being forced is the difference
<simpson>
eacameron: I think that the same stuff is being forced either way.
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<eacameron>
hoNO: Are you able to use virtualbox in other ways (not with nixops)? It looks like the install is not right...at least for nixops
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v11Bo
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a26acf9 Joachim Fasting: torbrowser: 6.0.7 -> 6.0.8
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<MichaelRaskin>
I guess test-eval-release.sh could help running a stricter evaluation locally
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<m`>
eacameron: I actually just installed VirtualBox for this purpose. I'm not quite experienced with the program, so I cannot tell, if it works correctly. At least its the latest version.
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<gchristensen>
we haven't built this package successfully in a week
<jack[m]>
In my experience, when a build stops talking to the world, there is a problem with it..
<gchristensen>
it is the kernel, and nothing has changed but a version bump
<gchristensen>
(or two)
<jack[m]>
hrm. did the patchShebang start recursing a symlink loop or something.
<gchristensen>
doesn't look like it,
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<gchristensen>
niksnut: (I'll ping you in about 11 hours just in case this is lost in your sleep) can you check in to the failing kernel builds? it lines up with the build determinism checks. I wonder if the extra building there is causing issues with load? release-16.09 is blocked on kernels not building fast enough.
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