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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 55eb741 Tuomas Tynkkynen: xsokoban: Fix build
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<clever> sebastian: ocamlPackages.utop is the attribute for utop, so nix-shell -p ocamlPackages.utop would get that, there is something else missing though
<sebastian> clever: thanks, that seems to work. Now I'm getting a failed assertion when I try to do it with ocamlPackages.core or ocamlPackages.core_extended
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1lys
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a7c31ce Tuomas Tynkkynen: snack: Mark broken...
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<clever> assert minimumSupportedOcamlVersion != null -> 17 stdenv.lib.versionOlder minimumSupportedOcamlVersion ocaml.version;
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<clever> sebastian: this is the assertion that is failing
<sebastian> clever: yes
<clever> sebastian: and minimumSupportedOcamlVersion is set to 4.02 on core
<clever> sebastian: so we need to use ocamlPackages_4_02 or newer for everything
<clever> nix-shell -p ocamlPackages_4_02.ocaml ocamlPackages_4_02.utop ocamlPackages_4_02.core
<clever> its re-downloading everything, since the ocaml version is different
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<Fare> does anyone here have a working grub2 entry for dual-booting into Windows?
<clever> Fare: yes
<Fare> clever: care to share?
<Fare> in a pastebin
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1e7bb27 Tuomas Tynkkynen: U-Boot: Add platforms to legacy U-Boots...
<Fare> I tried many things, but they look ignored by grub
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<brh> Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out how to add a priority to my ~/.nixpkgs/config.x packageOverrides, starting from the base skeleton here: https://nixos.org/wiki/Cheatsheet. I'd like to make it so I can declare all the things I want and it'll install them, overriding any of them that may have already been manually installed with `nix-env -i foo`. Anyone know how to do this?
<brh> I can call it manually with `nix-env --set-flag priority 10 all`, but even then it doesn't seem happy if one of the pkgs in all is installed without any priority (I thought it defaulted to 0?)
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<brh> (manually calling nix-env --set-flag priority 0 foo` will fix it, of course)
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<clever> brh: using a buildEnv is simpler i find, http://pastebin.com/zJrfM4Dj
<clever> brh: now i can just nix-env -iA nixos.mystuff and i'm done
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<brh> I think that is what I'm using? A build-env inside packageOverrides?
<clever> brh: ah, didnt read what you said fully
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<brh> Yeah, the issue is if I put, say [tmux vim emacs] in the buildEnv, and I had already ran `nix-env -i tmux` manually, I get a colission. Your ignoreCollisions = true; solved it for me, though
<clever> brh: there is a lib.hiPrio function that i think sets the default under nix-env
<brh> wait . . . nevermind, I'm confused; expanding my buildEnv to include [git] gives me another conflict. How do I call the lib.hiPrio function in my all { buildEnv } ?
<clever> brh: i think you can just do all = pkgs.hiPrio buildEnv { ....
<brh> Found one place where it's being used, but I can't quite seem to match the syntax: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/1d71ae259ffa11922ef0fd77dee7041e26213e84/pkgs/development/compilers/elm/default.nix#L83
<brh> I have a with pkgs; after the name as well that I think it doesn't like
<c74d> Do I recall correctly that it's unidiomatic in NixOS to put things like compilers and build tools in systemPackages, and they should instead be loaded on-demand in nix-shell?
<clever> c74d: correct
<c74d> thanks
<Shell> in practice, I have a handful of compilers installed via nix-env for reasons.
<clever> brh: ah, i often forget about the order of operations, try all = pkgs.hiPrio (buildEnv { .... });
<brh> oooh I got it now: it was `all = with pkgs; pkgs.lib.hiPrio ( buildEnv{...})`
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<Fare> clever, thanks!
<clever> brh: since you have the with statement, you can do all = with pkgs; hiPrio ( buildEnv{...});
<brh> Awesome, that also worked. Thanks clever!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1lSW
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f91458c Tuomas Tynkkynen: reattach-to-user-namespace: Set platforms
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 571cf4f Tuomas Tynkkynen: uisp: Fix build
<mrrtump> ok so how hard or ez is the install?
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<mrrtump> I dont have to do many low level commands do I?
<clever> mrrtump: its pretty easy, just partition the drive, format it, mount it, and then nixos-generate-config --root /mnt, edit some config, and nixos-install
<sebastian> That worked for me, thanks clever!
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<Fare> clever, thanks a lot!
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<mrrtump> why is nixos better than debian?
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<clever> mrrtump: too many things to list, heh
<clever> mrrtump: part of it is just the power that comes from nix expressions
<clever> mrrtump: when compiled, this makes a shell script, and if you run that shell script as root, you get nixos running from a ramdisk, with zero changes to the hdd
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<c74d> "<clever> foo = (import <nixpkgs/nixos> { configuration = { pkgs, lib, ... }: { networking.hostname = "vm1"; }; }).vm" -- does a VM defined like this have the same configuration as the host system except for `networking.hostname`, or a default configuration except for `networking.hostname`?
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<clever> c74d: it will entirely ignore the host config
<clever> c74d: so that vm only has a hostname set, and nothing else
<c74d> clever: okay, thanks
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<c74d> clever: and, to be sure, the `configuration` function gets that default configuration as its `config` argument?
<c74d> if it's `{ config, lib, pkgs, ... }: { networking.hostname = "vm1"; }`
<clever> c74d: default config?
<clever> the config argument will be the result of the config returned by that function (with that hostname), merged with the config from all nixos modules
<c74d> I mean, not the host config
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<c74d> (this is probably implied by "entirely ignore")
<clever> yeah, that will be all the 'guest' config
<c74d> okay, thanks
<clever> the default value for configuration is <nixos-config>
<clever> which loads configuration.nix from $NIX_PATH
<c74d> clever: that's the host config, that's ignored, right?
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<clever> in the above example, we provide a value for configuation, so it wont use the default
<c74d> ah
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<savanni> Hmm... something about rebooting my machine made made bluetooth start working.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] imalsogreg opened pull request #20909: haskellPackages.heist: testsuite dependency on pandoc executable fixes tests (master...heist-pandoc) https://git.io/v1lQy
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<Rotaerk> hmm how do you create new profiles? manually add a directory to /nix/var/nix/profiles?
<Rotaerk> and then switch to it
<clever> Rotaerk: hmmm, let me check something
<Rotaerk> in general, I'm trying to understand the best way to get a distinct nix environment per project
<clever> and you shouldnt use nix-env with projects, you should use a shell.nix file
<Rotaerk> the idea of having reliable reproducible builds implies that I shouldn't rely on anything I have installed in my general user profile
<clever> Rotaerk: here is something i did recently: https://github.com/cleverca22/nix-tests/blob/master/cross-compiled-kernel.nix
<clever> if i run nix-shell on this, i get an environment that can cross-compile an ARM linux kernel
<Rotaerk> this cross-compiled-kernel.nix is a shell.nix?
<Rotaerk> just differently named
<clever> yeah
<clever> thats a git repo where i just stick all kinds of usefull things, so i renamed it to prevent collisions
<Rotaerk> okay, cool; so instead of switching profiles per project, run a nix shell, configured by a shell.nix
<clever> and the name shell.nix doesnt have any real magic to it, thats just the default file for nix-shell
<clever> yep
<Rotaerk> makes sense; thanks
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<clever> and since you already have the buildInputs right there, your half way to having a working nix package for the project
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<Rotaerk> clever, would that file *be* the nix package with a bit more work, or is that just for development? where I'd make a separate nix file for the package, and just copy over the buildInputs
<clever> i would just name it default.nix, and use src = ./.; and stdenv.mkDerivation
<clever> then both nix-shell and nix-build will work on it
<Rotaerk> hmm k
<Rotaerk> gotcha
<clever> root.nix in that project also has other neat expressions
<Rotaerk> how's root.nix used?
<Rotaerk> don't see it referenced in default.nix
<clever> c74d: oh, and it has an example for what your doing too: https://github.com/cleverca22/fusenar/blob/master/root.nix#L23-L32
<clever> Rotaerk: root.nix loads default.nix on line 6
<Rotaerk> what loads root.nix?
<clever> in this case, i would run nix-build root.nix -A fusenar
<clever> to build fusenar
<Rotaerk> ah k
<clever> or nix-build root.nix -A guest, to build a qemu guest that contains the container script
<clever> and the container script runs fusenar in a systemd container
<Rotaerk> why make root.nix your ... root; isn't default.nix normally the entry-point?
<Rotaerk> then you wouldn't have to specify it
<clever> thats an older one
<clever> yeah, with more recent projects, i make default.nix, and then fusenar would be in fusenar.nix
<Rotaerk> ah
<clever> i try to avoid renaming things, it messes with git history, but then i learned from this mistake, and did future projects better
<Rotaerk> hmm, as I understand it, git doesn't care about file names, and is good at handling renames, based on content
<clever> yeah, but you need an extra argument to follow history thru renames
<Rotaerk> ah
<clever> when doing things like git log or git blame
<clever> newScope on line 3 is another neat feature
<clever> this creates a new callPackage instance, that will search self first
<clever> which allows fusenar to depend on termcolor, which isnt in nixpkgs
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<Rotaerk> hmm, neat
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<clever> heh, so thats where i broke the rules, lol: https://github.com/cleverca22/fusenar/blob/master/datafiles.nix#L9-L10
<clever> nix-store isnt supposed to work inside a nix build, and there are existing tools to do this
<clever> which i didnt know of at the time
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<marantz> I'm trying to install nixos onto a Macbook Air via the liveboot iso on a usb stick. Everything has worked, but nixos-install fails trying to download http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_stahybrid-v35….tar.gz which I can't download if I try from a browser in another ldaptop. Is there a way to stop nixos-install from trying to install that driver?
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<clever> marantz: you can try doing nix-channel --update, and hopefully somebody has already fixed the reference
<marantz> ok I'll try that now
<stepcut> is there some way to get cabal2nix to pull from a branch of a github repo?
<clever> marantz: do you know if you have a broadcom wifi card?
<marantz> I've no idea. I have a wired network connection that works
<marantz> yes the macbook air has a broadcom card
<clever> marantz: the description for the package your unable to download is "Kernel module driver for some Broadcom's wireless cards";
<clever> marantz: and the version currently in nixpkgs is 6.30.223.271, but your omited the version from the url you pasted
<marantz> I can live without that support right now
<clever> marantz: i think you just need to remove broadcom_sta from the hardware-config.nix file in /mnt/etc/nixos/
<marantz> the …. part is v35_64-nodebug-pcoem-6_300_223_271.tar.gz
<clever> marantz: and the wl from kernelModules
<marantz> fyi the nix-channel —update; nixos-install seems to be doing something else right now
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<marantz> clever: same error. I don't see any mention of the broadcom card in hardware-configuration.nix so how to I say to ignore it?
<clever> marantz: can you pastebin the configuration.nix and hardware-config from /mnt/etc/nixos/ ?
<marantz> no, but I see "wl" so I'll remove that?
<clever> yeah
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<marantz> same thing. any other ideas?
<clever> can you pastebin the files i asked for?
<marantz> that laptop is booted into the livecd iso so I don't know how to do that
<clever> you can systemctl start sshd, and then ssh into it from another pc
<marantz> trying
<marantz> I can't ssh into it. is there a firewall I need to disable?
<clever> what error is ssh giving?
<marantz> operation timed out after saying Connected to 198.168.1.107 port 22
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<clever> thats weird
<clever> and its the correct ip?, check ifconfig again
<marantz> ifconfig on both laptops show then on the same network this laptop is .105 the target is .107
<clever> oh yeah, and some wifi have an extrmely anoying setting, the wifi users can NEVER talk to the wired users
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<marantz> systemctl status sshd on the target say it is listening on port 22
<clever> its to stop a guy on the street from haxing your desktop, but all it does is get in the way of everything
<clever> you can still try "systemctl stop firewall"
<marantz> yes it is probably my wireless router ;-(
<clever> my ISP provided router also lacks an option to turn that off
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<clever> every single time i try to upgrade to the N band, the hardware says no :P
<marantz> stopping the firewall didn't help
<marantz> let me see if I can put them on a usb stick…
<clever> try plugging the other laptop in via ethernet?
<clever> oh, another option
<clever> run gist -p and irssi under screen
<clever> gist -p can upload files, screen lets you copy/paste the link without a mouse, and irssi gets you irc
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<marantz> here are the uncommentd lines from configuration.nix
<marantz> { config, pkgs, ... }:
<marantz> {
<marantz> imports =
<marantz> ./hardware-configuration.nix
<marantz> ];
<marantz> boot.loader.systemd-boot.enable = true;
<marantz> boot.loader.efi.canTouchEfiVariables = true;
<marantz> nixpkgs.config.allowUnfree = true;
<marantz> boot.initrd.kernelModules = [ "fbcon" ];
<marantz> boot.initrd.luks.devices = [
<marantz> { name = "rootfs";
<marantz> device = "/dev/sda2";
<marantz> preLVM = true; }
<marantz> ];
<marantz> boot.loader.grub.device = "/dev/sda";
<marantz> networking.wireless.enable = false;
<clever> and thats what a pastebin is for
<marantz> and hardware-configuration is
<marantz> { config, lib, pkgs, ... }:
<marantz> {
<marantz> imports =
<marantz> [ <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/scan/not-detected.nix>
<marantz> ];
<marantz> boot.initrd.availableKernelModules = [ "xhci_pci" "ahci" "usb_storage" "usbhid" "sd_mod" ];
<marantz> boot.kernelModules = [ "kvm-intel" ];
<marantz> boot.extraModulePackages = [ config.boot.kernelPackages.broadcom_sta ];
<marantz> fileSystems."/" =
<marantz> { device = "/dev/disk/by-uuid/1f00bf79-1625-45d1-acf3-43a0636d5b7d";
<marantz> fsType = "ext4";
<marantz> };
<marantz> fileSystems."/boot" =
<clever> it cut both files off in the middle
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<marantz> ugh. give me a sec…
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<anelson> hey guys, I'm trying to configure wireless on nixos
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<clever> marantz: line 9 of the link, exactly what i said to remove
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<anelson> my interface shows up in ifconfig, and I'm able to manually connect with wpa_supplicant, but the systemd unit that nixos sets up does not work
<anelson> specifically it has a `-u` flag which seems to be the difference
<marantz> dam. thanks clever I'll try that now
<anelson> dbus: Could not request service name: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied Connection ":1.15" is not allowed to own the service "fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1" due to security policies in the configuration file
<anelson> Failed to initialize wpa_supplicant
<anelson> any advice?
<anelson> I could go in and hack the expression that generates the systemd unit and remove the -u flag, but that's both difficult and feels hacky
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<clever> anelson: no idea what happened to wpa_supplicant, last i tried (a month ago) it just worked when i put a config file in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
<marantz> clever I have another issue /mnt/boot has the wrong file type which I think I can fix. thanks much
<anelson> clever: :(
<anelson> yeah I have no idea about this stuff
<anelson> I was just following the wiki
<anelson> and I'm able to connect if I start wpa_supplicant manually
<clever> the wiki hasnt been updated in ages and is read-only
<anelson> be that as it may, is there any more up to date source of info?
<clever> anelson: pretty much all i did last time was hardware.wireless.enable = true; and wpa_passphrase ESSID >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
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<anelson> hmm
<anelson> I did networking.wireless.enable = true
<anelson> do you think that's a difference?
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<clever> nope, i just didnt remember it correctly
<anelson> oh ok
<anelson> yeah
<anelson> that ain't working
<anelson> for that stupid dbus reason
<anelson> does your systemd unit have the -u option in its call to wpa_supplicant?
<clever> *looks*
<anelson> so somewhat bizarrely there's both a wpa_supplicant.nix and a supplicant.nix in nixos/modules/services/networking
<clever> exec wpa_supplicant -s -u -Dnl80211,wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf $ifaces
<clever> yep
<anelson> hmm
<anelson> yeah that's the same as mine
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<anelson> maybe I'll just try rebooting my machine and it'll magically work
<anelson> I have no idea why both of those service modules exist
* clever scratches head
<anelson> welp gonna try a reboot
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<anelson> well, restarting did the trick
<anelson> :|
<anelson> weird, but all's well that ends well
<anelson> now my wireless works, yay
<clever> dbus has always been weird
<anelson> yeah I have very little knowledge of those sorts of linuxy things
<anelson> when one of them breaks I'm kind of terrified
<anelson> anyway thanks for the help :)
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<c74d> clever: I've got the VM stuff working, thanks! never before have I managed to manage VMs so easily
<clever> c74d: did you see the example i linked earlier?, that was to debug some fuse stuff i was messing with at the time
<c74d> yes
<clever> i was testing the systemd-nspawn stuff directly on the host
<clever> i managed to crazy the systemd in pid 1
<clever> the host refused to shutdown :P
<clever> so i switched to containers inside virtual machines
<clever> which normaly defeats the entire point of a container (low overhead)
<Rotaerk> hmm nixos isn't detecting my USB drive
<clever> Rotaerk: does it appear in "dmesg | tail -n30" ?
<Rotaerk> hmm I do see a message there that says "couldn't allocate usb_device"
<clever> thats strange
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<Rotaerk> yea dmesg | tail -n30 doesn't change when I expose the USB device from virtualbox (I'm currently running nixos as a guest)
<Rotaerk> the "couldn't allocate" occurs before even plugging it in
<clever> ah
<clever> i havent tried messing with that stuff yet
<clever> it might be simpler to just use scp to get files in&out
<Rotaerk> scp?
<clever> is the host another linux distro?
<Rotaerk> nah, I have a dual boot between nixos and windows, where I can alternatively boot into the former from the latter using vbox
<clever> ah
<clever> then you would want winscp, and enable ssh inside nixos
<Rotaerk> ah
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #20910: wp-cli: 0.24.1 -> 1.0.0 (master...wp) https://git.io/v1lph
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #20911: wp-cli: 0.23.1 -> 1.0.0 (release-16.09...wp_stable) https://git.io/v1lha
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #20912: mysqltuner: init at 1.6.18 (release-16.09...mysql) https://git.io/v1lhV
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<clever> Dezgeg: and now a kernel built by nixpkgs boots, just had to bump the rev to master's current version
<clever> but it took 3 hours to compile, so i'm considering just hacking together a cross-compile derivation
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<angerman> So I can use nix-copy-closure to deploy an application at a remote system, preferrably pulling the binaries from a binary cache. What zero downtime solutions are available, e.g. letting the old version sever until the new version has taken over completely?
<angerman> In the context of web services
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<clever> angerman: nix-store -r /nix/store/foo --add-root something --indirect
<clever> angerman: this command will replace a symlink called something, with a link to /nix/store/foo, and make that something a GC root
<clever> angerman: if you ran that on say public_html, it would atomicly swap the entire document root out in one command
<clever> the rest, would depend a lot on what http server your using, and if you want nix to also manage its config
<angerman> clever I'm more concered about services that bind to ports, where simple symlink swapping won't help :(
<clever> lighttpd has a special seamless restart mechanic in it, where the new instance will contact the old instance, and then the old one stops listening but keeps serving the open connections
<clever> you will need to look into what your http server offers for seamless restarts
<Rotaerk_> is angerman a superhero, or a supervillain
<angerman> Rotaerk_ O_o
<angerman> clever ok. I'll have to see for solutions outside of nix and how to integrate those with nix then.
<clever> angerman: if you name an http server, i can see if nixos already has anything special for it
<angerman> clever I'm deploying an app that binds to a port, and the http server acts as a proxy. Basically internet -> nginx -> application
<angerman> now clearly if i'm replacing the application, but still want to serve existing connections from the old application until all connections are gone.
<clever> angerman: ah
<clever> angerman: so you may want to re-implement what lighttpd has done within your application, the new instance signals the old instance
<clever> then the old instance closes the listening socket, but continues to handle open connections to nginx, and shuts down once all are handled
<angerman> well, or plug some service between nginx and the application.
<clever> and the new intance re-opens the port
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<clever> angerman: there is also a unix feature that may be of use
<clever> angerman: this lets you pass an open file descriptor between processes, so the old instance can pass the handle to the new instance, without the port ever closing
<clever> and then it will round-robin between them as they call accept() (or go to just the new, if the old never calls accept again, and closes)
<angerman> clever thanks! I'll give this a look.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] matthiasbeyer opened pull request #20913: mutt: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.2 (master...update-mutt) https://git.io/v18fY
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<e1> I noticed that parallel building of chromium is not enabled. Is there a reason for that? I didn't see one in the comments in the corresponding *.nix files.
<clever> e1: cant think of any reason why its missing, is it causing an issue on your end?
<e1> clever: haven't tried yet since it's probably the most expensive package to build. Which is why I was so surprised it was turned off.
<clever> i just grab it from the binary cache and its done
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<e1> That's what I wanted to do but nix insists on building it.
<clever> 64bit or 32bit?
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<e1> 64
<clever> is this happening at nixos-install, nixos-rebuild or nix-env?
<e1> nix-env -u in user profile
<clever> can you pastebin ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix ?
<e1> clever: not too complicated. I'm using both flash and pdf plugins though.
<e1> But that should result in built chromioum +
<clever> try commenting one of the plugins out and see what nix-env does
<e1> plugin + plugin
<clever> ive noticed an issue with one of the plugin options recently
<e1> clever: what are we trying to achieve?
<clever> find out which plugin is causing it to rebuild the heavy part
<e1> OK. Presumably that's a bug?
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<clever> yeah
<e1> I'll get back to you//report the bug, gotta catch my bus now.
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<clever> nix-repl> :b (chromium.override { enableNaCl = false; enablePepperFlash = false; enableWideVine = false; pulseSupport = false; }).browser
<clever> in theory, this should fetch a default chromium (minus all plugins) from the cache
<clever> and it doesnt, heh
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<clever> e1: even though pulseaudio defaults to false, setting it to false causes a rebuild https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/networking/browsers/chromium/default.nix#L14
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<clever> pulseSupport = config.pulseaudio or true;
<clever> because all-packages defines a second default!
<clever> e1: ok, so enableNaCl=true or pulseSupport=false will cause it to rebuild the fat side of chrome, and i dont see a pdf plugin
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/v18TK
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8dadb44 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages: use fixed-point combinator...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 31e32b6 Frederik Rietdijk: Python interpreters: add pkgs attribute...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3d59b82 Frederik Rietdijk: DOCS: update Python docs to reflect fixed-point combinator
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<qknight> domenkozar: thans so much for getting hydra into nixpkgs!
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<nekroze> can nixos containers be limited to specific CPU cores and maximum ram usage? I can't see an option for anything like that
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/v18L7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 44cc1d7 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.zipfile36: init at 0.1.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 03aacfa Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.request_download: init at 0.1.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c6a7d8e Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.flit: init at 0.10
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 74d0f57 Frederik Rietdijk: Revert "entrypoints example"...
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<clever> nekroze: in theory, you can use taskset and ulimit before running systemd-nspawn, and it will probably inherit down to the entire container
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v18tp
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 10b16b2 Matthias Beyer: mutt: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0fe3ad7 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #20913 from matthiasbeyer/update-mutt...
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<clever> nekroze: i dont see any way to insert commands (like ulimit) before systemd-nspawn, so you would need to modify a clone of nixpkgs and rebuild with -I nixpkgs=foo to test
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<nekroze> clever: Interesting. I would have assumed there would be some way to limit them since nixos seems pretty big on them compared to vm's. I was going to rebuild my whole home server using just nixos-containers and no vm's, oh well will see how it goes and if they start strangling each other for performance then I will come back to sort this out
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<nekroze> clever: cheers as always mate
<clever> yep
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<FRidh> odd. Builds on Travis fail, but they succeed both locally and on hydra (https://travis-ci.org/NixOS/nixpkgs/jobs/181290264)
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<teeter> hey guys, i hope someone can help me. I trying to mount a webdav using davfs2 root everything works fine. Now i try to mount it as a user, and cant get it to work.
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<teeter> what i have tried so far: 1. adding the option user 2. security.setuidPrograms ["mount" "mount.davfs"] 3. edit visudo
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<avn> teeter: `sudo mount ....` should works in theory
<teeter> it does but than i cant write anything to it
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix opened pull request #20914: Update django (master...update_django) https://git.io/v183q
<teeter> only read
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dbrock opened pull request #20915: solc: 0.4.4 -> 0.4.6 (master...solc) https://git.io/v183O
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip ff9388e Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.cffi: 1.7.0 -> 1.9.1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] montag451 opened pull request #20916: Corosync (master...corosync) https://git.io/v18G5
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8ba6864 Lancelot SIX: pythonPackages.django_1_10: 1.10.3 -> 1.10.4...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a56e180 Lancelot SIX: pythonPackages.django_1_8: 1.8.16 -> 1.8.17...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v18nX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d44426 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.zope_schema: disable tests...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh force-pushed python-wip from ff9388e to 07fbf90: https://git.io/vzaOS
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip 07fbf90 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.setuptools: 28.8.0 -> 30.2.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #20880: marathon: 1.1.2 -> 1.3.6 (master...marathon) https://git.io/v1WsG
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm opened pull request #20918: privoxy: 3.0.24 -> 3.0.26 (master...privoxy-bump) https://git.io/v18Rb
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm opened pull request #20919: Privoxy service improvements (master...privoxy-service-improvements) https://git.io/v18Rh
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1808
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9471411 Peter Hoeg: wp-cli: 0.24.1 -> 1.0.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 546eba7 Joachim F: Merge pull request #20910 from peterhoeg/wp...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #20920: lib/generators: mkKeyValueLine -> mkKeyValueLine (master...generators-toKeyValue) https://git.io/v18us
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dbrock opened pull request #20921: Add awslogs (master...awslogs) https://git.io/v18ul
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dbrock opened pull request #20922: urbit: 2016-06-02 -> 2016-11-01 (master...urbit) https://git.io/v18uh
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<Profpatsch> Maybe it is of help to someone: https://gist.github.com/Profpatsch/41e92f2ae829ad5753e366906e583ddc
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<Profpatsch> help with packaging go packages in nix
<Profpatsch> That way you don’t need to have a braindead gopath infrastructure set up.
<avn> Profpatsch: looks great ;)
<gchristensen> whoa nice, Profpatsch
<Profpatsch> It’s like version 0.0.1, but it worked for the package I wanted to set up.
<Profpatsch> That’s the problem with code generation imo, it just doesn’t compose.
<Profpatsch> And all falls apart once you have to edit the output.
<qknight> Profpatsch: nice
<qknight> Profpatsch: have you seen the manual https://github.com/kamilchm/go2nix i've written?
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<Profpatsch> qknight: Yeah, I noticed it afterwards. It basically does that in one ‘go’.
<Profpatsch> c wut i did thar
<Profpatsch> You still have to change the default manually afterwards, so no regeneration on new version.
<Profpatsch> Once that gets split out into its own file, it could be integrated in an update script.
<Profpatsch> Also, only for git atm.
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<rly> Profpatsch: does it work on gosu?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #20923: jid: init at 0.6.1 (master...jid) https://git.io/v18gl
<rly> Profpatsch: you are using too many quotes, btw.
<Profpatsch> rly: You can’t use enough quotes in bash.
<rly> Profpatsch: I always use exactly enough.
<Profpatsch> tbh I’d rewriter in python or Haskell should it get bigger than that.
<Profpatsch> *rewrite
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v18gM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ad489ce Greg Hale: Add pandoc dependency to heist to restore working heist tests
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b6fe399 Shea Levy: Merge branch 'heist-pandoc' of git://github.com/imalsogreg/nixpkgs
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy closed pull request #20909: haskellPackages.heist: testsuite dependency on pandoc executable fixes tests (master...heist-pandoc) https://git.io/v1lQy
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dbrock opened pull request #20924: cargo: set CURL_CA_BUNDLE (master...cargo) https://git.io/v182U
<gchristensen> Profpatsch++
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<gchristensen> I mean, I'd even use more quotes :P
<gchristensen> around GOPATH=... :P
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<Profpatsch> Maybe someone would like to take that script as a basis for improving golang tooling.
<Profpatsch> As you can see, there’s a lot of low-hanging fruit.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 497e6d2 Nikolay Amiantov: haskellPackages.haskell-src-exts-simple: build against new haskell-src-exts
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<ocharles_> Hey - just updated to the Hydra in release-16.09, but now my Hydra server apparently has no machines (the /admin/machines route shows nothing) and no builds are happening. How do I set up that machine itself to be a build server?
<clever> ocharles_: it always needs a slave in /etc/nix/machines
<ocharles_> Ok, can that be populated with something in configuration.nix?
<ocharles_> I have no /etc/nix/machines file at the moment
<clever> ocharles_: its configured via nix.buildMachines in configuration.nix
<ocharles_> Ah, thanks!
<qknight> what to do if a package is called 'meta', 'throw' or 'assert' in nipxkgs?
<clever> qknight: i think meta is fine, but throw/assert will probably have trouble
<rly> Is there any template language which is not specific to HTML which just replaces {{foo}} with some arbitrary string for many different bindings like foo in e.g. a JSON or YAML file?
<rly> The one I am currently using which is advertised as something which can be used for "config files", can't actually represent newlines (facepalms).
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<ocharles_> perfect, thanks clever! I'll open an issue to get this added to the hydra manual
<clever> rly: simplest (and most ugly) thing i can think of is php, just foo = <?php echo $foo ?>; as needed
<qknight> clever: ideas what i could do? in crates.io packages are named like that
<rly> clever: I sort of already decided on the {{foo}} syntax.
<rly> I.e., I thought that mustache would work, but apparently they are lying and can't even write a tool according to their own specification.
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<clever> rly: sed? heh
<rly> clever: yeah, it crossed my mind, but I don't think people would like such a horrible hack.
<rly> clever: I already found a possible solution.
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<qknight> niksnut: do you think one could patch nix to accept package names as: "assert" and other keywords?
<qknight> Profpatsch: what do you think?
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<qknight> e = { assert=""; }
<qknight> error: syntax error, unexpected ASSERT, at (string):1:4
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<qknight> so the parser could look if there is a = after the keyword, and if so it is not a keyword but a attribute name
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<rotox> I am trying to build a nix container that runs N instances of a service where N is a number > 0 passed into the description via mkOptions. I cannot figure out however how to iterate over the range of numbers from 1 to N. Can someone provide me with an example of how to do that?
<clever> qknight: nix-repl> let foo."assert" = "bar"; in { inherit (foo) "assert"; }
<clever> qknight: this happens to work
<clever> qknight: so does this: nix-repl> { "${"assert"}" = "bar"; }
<clever> oh, wasnt expecting { "assert" = "bar"; } to also work
<clever> but e.assert doesnt let you access it, needs e."assert" and now its more complex to use
<Profpatsch> Yes, { "assert" = 1 } should work.
<Profpatsch> qknight: So for generating packagesets, just put all attribute names in Strings.
<Profpatsch> There’s also a hackage-packages.nix "assert" =
<qknight> ok! thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #20902: torsocks update & improvements (master...torsocks) https://git.io/v1luL
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v18Xi
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 407537a Joachim Fasting: privoxy: 3.0.24 -> 3.0.26...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c98023b Joachim F: Merge pull request #20918 from joachifm/privoxy-bump...
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<greymalkin> Is chrome deliberately trying to screw with us? "Chromium Embedded Framework requires that the file '/nix/store...' is owned by root and has permission 4755.
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<greymalkin> Nevermind, this is an */nix problem, as nixos itself probably deals with creating the sandbox.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v189h
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e43a99e Joachim Fasting: electrum: 2.7.11 -> 2.7.12
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<savanni> Do any of you use Nautilus (the gnome file manager) on a Nixos machine?
<kragniz> yeah
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<savanni> @kragniz What kinds of things are necessary to install to get it to a) detect external drives, and b) detect file types as something other than text/plain?
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<savanni> external drives/removable media
<kragniz> not sure, I have it installed with the rest of gnome and those work out of the box
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<savanni> Darn. I did i3 and am trying to keep the system as minimal as possible.
<savanni> Maybe I should sincerely work on looking at other file managers.
<ToxicFrog> I thought nautilus had a huge pile of dependencies; if you want minimal something like thunar is probably better?
* ToxicFrog has largely stopped using the file manager at all, despite using KDE
<savanni> Potentially. And with Nix it's really easy to try something and then "remove" it if I dislike it.
<savanni> But, a lot of file managers don't support encrypted volumes. And while I sorta-know how to mount an encrypted volume manually, it's rather painful.
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<manveru> for the few times where i need removable media, i use pmount
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #15043: top-level: simplify stdenv calling of top-level: fewer inferred and re-inferring arguments (master...cross) https://git.io/vwrPT
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<savanni> Well, thunar apparently has a lot of dependencies that don't get installed with xfce.thunar. No icons appear, and the volume manager doesn't seem to start.
<ToxicFrog> Aah.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] tohl opened pull request #20925: fix win-dll-link.sh setup hook (master...master) https://git.io/v18dy
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<savanni> My problems may actually have nothing to do with the file manager and a lot to do with dbus.
<savanni> Because dbus has been an off-and-on problem since I installed this system.
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<seanparsons> Is there a nice way of dropping into a node REPL session with certain dependencies pulled in from NPM that I can do with Nix? I thought this would be super easy for some reason but I'm not seeing anything.
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<seanparsons> FRidh: I saw that, but it's not what I really want, that takes a project and makes nix expressions for it.
<savanni> ... removable filesystems started working after a reboot. I have no idea what I changed.
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<FRidh> seanparsons: you can can write a function that takes your input, runs node2nix, puts the expressions in the store, and then evaluates them.
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<seanparsons> FRidh: I want a REPL though, not something that just runs a bit of JavaScript and I still need to create packages.json and all that faff.
<seanparsons> I'm amazed this is simples with Haskell, but not so much for Node.
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<earldouglas> Is there a good way to reference secrets in a NixOps deployment? E.g. I'd like to set a DB_PASSWORD env var in systemd.services.<name>.environment.
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<savanni> Ah, it's the XFCE desktop manager. Enable it, don't even necessarily run it, and *something* in there enables auto-discovery of removable filesystems.
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<clever> savanni: everything in this block is part of your config if enabled: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-16.09/nixos/modules/services/x11/desktop-managers/xfce.nix#L51-L119
<clever> savanni: things of note, udisks2 is enabled, and a crap-ton of things are added to systemPackages
<clever> so even if you dont run xfce, those still cause side-effects
<clever> s
<savanni> It's got to be one of those packages. udisks2 was already enabled.
<clever> pkgs.xfce.thunar_volman
<clever> "Thunar extension for automatic management of removable drives and media"
<savanni> I'd had that installed. It didn't have any effect.
<savanni> I bet "shared_mime_info" is what has given me proper mime detection, though.
<savanni> I should post my configuration.nix today. With documentation in it.
<clever> you can always copy/paste parts of this to configuration.nix and turn xfce off to test
<savanni> Thinking of doing that.
<clever> i'm off to bed though, need to get some sleep
<savanni> Oh, unless installing thunar_volman has no effect until I restart the machine...
<clever> some things are also sensitive to systemPackages vs nix-env
<savanni> Point.
<clever> plugins are sometimes only searched for in /run/current-system/sw/lib
<savanni> Thunar still doesn't have icons. Nautilus is behaving well.
<clever> nix-env always manages ~/.nix-profile
<clever> and systemPackages manages /run/current-system/sw/
<clever> in both cases, buildEnv is used to merge all listed packages into a single directory tree
<savanni> And some things have to run as core system and some things can run in my environment...
<savanni> and some things, even when installed in configuration.nix, still require a reboot.
<clever> savanni: here is the source for systemPackages, and a list of things you can never remove: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/config/system-path.nix#L10-L43
<clever> nano is forever installed, you cant get rid of it!!
<savanni> k. There's a lot to learn there. I'll dig in.
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<qknight> how to define a attribute set and pass it to it's arguments also?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #20927: In `lib/trivial/makeExtensible*` allow extenders to refer to refixer … (master...pkgs-overridePkgs) https://git.io/v14fh
<qknight> done in pkgs with pkgs, where libc can depend on pkgs.libd
<qknight> override?
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<gilligan_> o/
<qknight> i have a top-level/all-packages.nix like set which i can't put in nixpkgs and i need to pass it to each element for dependencies
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<earldouglas> Ah, the answer to my question is builtins.getEnv. That was easier than I thought.
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<moet> is it normal for chromium to compile from scratch when you install it?
<goibhniu> moet: nope, what channel are you using?
<moet> afaik, vanilla install
<moet> nor sure how to check
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<goibhniu> how did you install it?
<moet> livecd.. nixos-install or whatever the default installation method was
<moet> goibhniu: `nix-channel --list` prints nothing .. that seems not good!
<goibhniu> maybe try `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade` as root, that will update the channel
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<moet> ah, nevermind, it requires root
<moet> is 16.09 already old?
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<goibhniu> that's good, it's the latest stable release
<moet> ok.. i'll try doing the `nixos-reubild switch --upgrade` and report back in a bit
<moet> is it recommended to reboot after upgrade?
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<goibhniu> there's usually no need, unless you upgrade the kernel or something
<moet> is that automatic or opt in? if it's automatic, is it highlighted in the output or should i go back over all the output from the command?
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<goibhniu> for now, you don't need to anyway
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<goibhniu> it could be that chrome isn't required for the channel to be built
<goibhniu> did you try to install chromium again?
<moet> i haven't done the command yyet
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<moet> upgrading now..
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<moet> hmm.. the upgrade looks like it's going to take awhile and i'm going to head to work
<moet> curious though, does it make any difference as to whether i install as part of pkgs in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix, or just by using nix-env ?
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<goibhniu> the main difference is that if you add it to configuration.nix, it will be updated with the system
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<moet> ok, upgrade is done.. trying to install chromium ... and ...it reached chromium and started compiling
<moet> oh well
<moet> i don't need chromium.. currently using vimb and surf, but i'm concerned about oldish webkit.. any recommendationS?
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<LnL> I really want to rewrite vim_configurable, I can't even figure out how to disable ftNixSupport in a reliable way
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<goibhniu> sorry about that moet, you could install a different build from hydra
<moet> goibhniu: no worries! :)
<moet> ty for your help
<goibhniu> the one-click install is broken at the moment, but you can still install from there
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<goibhniu> e.g. `nix-store --realise /nix/store/0fwwicdrv4khjzy0pxmblfb9h9d5a3mk-chromium-54.0.2840.100`
<x1n4u> activating the configuration...
<x1n4u> setting up /etc...
<x1n4u> readlink: missing operand
<x1n4u> Try 'readlink --help' for more information.
<x1n4u> i ve got follwing problem after nixos-rebuild switch
<x1n4u> I'm realy sorry I messed up my copy and paste
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<sternenseemann> any ideas, why I am missing dm_mod (and other modules) with linuxPackages_latest and linuxPackages on armv7l?
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<qknight> i probably have ot use newScope for my problem
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<eacameron> So a sad story: I need to run a PHP app on PHP 5.4 :O
<eacameron> Is that going to be a huge amount of work on NixOS?
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<qknight> eacameron: depends
<eacameron> qknight: On what?
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<qknight> eacameron: your nix background, how urgent it is
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<eacameron> qknight: It needs to work by the end of the week, basically. I am relatively new to nix but I've managed to deploy several other PHP apps, Haskell apps, etc. with it.
<ronny> eacameron: you know, in the worst case you can always make a docker container with the app and use that ^^
<eacameron> ronny: You mean don't use NixOS?
<ronny> eacameron: but i presume if its just php that needs a version, you may be able to finish it with a few lines of nix
<eacameron> ronny: qknight: Looking at this looks like at least getting the version pulled in shouldn't be too hard. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/7c65e225dda6335c49783b0cb56508c3422e2377/pkgs/development/interpreters/php/default.nix
<eacameron> No idea what the ramifications would be regarding packages, etc.
<eacameron> PHP packages, that is.
<ronny> eacameron: i strongly suspect you wont need to resort to docker
<eacameron> ronny: Well it's a backup at least ;)
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<ronny> but its a reasonable failsafe if you run out of time
<eacameron> ronny: Yah, cept my Docker experience is much less than my nix experience...oddly enough.
<qknight> eacameron: you can create your own fork of nixpkgs based on nixos 16.09 for instance and then just 'add' that php package back
<Sonarpulse-Work> don't forget you can get hashes and things from old nixpkgs
<qknight> eacameron: each time you do an update you have to rebase your stuff on top of the most recent 16.09 checkout
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Expand on that a bit...
<Sonarpulse-Work> the git history for nixpkgs goes back at least a decade
<ronny> qknight: bad advice, it may be mroe sustainable to just set up some nix modules and expressions in a git repo
<qknight> ronny: well, there are plenty of options
<eacameron> qknight: Right. I could fork nixpkgs or just override stuff.
<eacameron> or both!
<ronny> continious rebase tends to be a really painfull one in any case where there will eventually be more than one computer
<ronny> because unlike mercurial git does not have pushable rebases
<qknight> ronny: for a single change you can always cherry-pick
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: So were you saying that I could just use an old nixpkgs? Or that I could copy/paste old derivations into the latest version and use them.
<ronny> qknight: git simply has no sustainable solution for that, EOD
<Sonarpulse-Work> eacameron: either, but I'd prefer the latter
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: SICK!
<Sonarpulse-Work> :)
<Sonarpulse-Work> thank goodness that's a recent commit
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Yah I was just about to say that.
<Sonarpulse-Work> no idea if there is a php2nix or anything like that, but if there is it may even still kinda work!
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Yes I'll have to fiddle around with this. Fortunately this app is going to be replaced soon...I just suddenly have to start hosting it myself in the meantime.
<Sonarpulse-Work> cool
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v148k
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c1d98d9 Frederik Rietdijk: buildPythonPackage: add configurePhase, fixes #20926...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 47d4575 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.setuptools: 28.8.0 -> 30.2.0
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<Sonarpulse-Work> anyways yeah nixpkgs is a huge repo, in terms of number of commits, age of commits, and number of files
<Sonarpulse-Work> I think of it is like the unintentional wikipedia of open source software development and administration
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: :(
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<Sonarpulse-Work> so, if you poke around in there, many hidden gems!
<Sonarpulse-Work> hmm?
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: The wikipedia-ness of it... ;)
<Sonarpulse-Work> oh
<Sonarpulse-Work> i mean that in a good
<Sonarpulse-Work> way
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Oh...well then
<eacameron> :)
<Sonarpulse-Work> and intentional for us Nix users, unintentional for everyone else
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Ohhh I see. Yes. That's awesome.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #20928: minio: build on all 64bit platforms (master...minio-darwin) https://git.io/v1480
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: This continually annoys me but I'd love to just put that call to `generic` back in...but it's not exported anywhere. So I have to copy the entire file!
<Sonarpulse-Work> eacameron: you know about <nixpkgs/foo/bar/baz> ?
<Sonarpulse-Work> not sure that helps
<Sonarpulse-Work> but can sometimes help with unexorted things
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: oh? I don't know about that...how does it work?
<Sonarpulse-Work> so the "nixpkgs" in <nixpkgs> is....more or less... a directory on NIX_PATH
<Sonarpulse-Work> <nixpkgs/foo/bar/baz> would be a relative directory from "nixpkgs"
<Sonarpulse-Work> so you can snoop arbitrary files in the nix repo that way!
<Sonarpulse-Work> <nixpkgs/.travis.yml> probably works, lol!
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: I see...Ah that's neat. Would that allow me to get to that "generic" expression somehow?
<Sonarpulse-Work> let me see
<Sonarpulse-Work> nope sorry
<Sonarpulse-Work> generic is in a let
<Sonarpulse-Work> yeah not in this case
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: :/ That's what I thought. I'll probably contribute a small refactor exposing it...
<Sonarpulse-Work> welllll
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<Sonarpulse-Work> I guess something similar was done for ghcjs
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Similar to what?
<Sonarpulse-Work> exposing internals for one-off usecases :)
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<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: I see. Yah it seems like a good idea to at least *allow* people to touch the internals, especially if all you need is a version and a sha.
<Sonarpulse-Work> eacameron: I guess for example I removed some deubbing stuff (that didn't work)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v14Be
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0dbc1e4 Benjamin Staffin: minio: build on all 64bit platforms
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c5eaf23 Benjamin Staffin: Merge pull request #20928 from benley/minio-darwin...
<Sonarpulse-Work> it's all dead code in normal usage
<Sonarpulse-Work> but anyone that is reading the code could be confused by the apparent extra complexity
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Yah I wouldn't want dead code lying around just for the sake of one-offs. But if it's being used anyway...
<Sonarpulse-Work> I did fix the debugging and made an "optional" PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/20889 in case anyone needs it
<Sonarpulse-Work> let me link the ghcjs thing
<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: Ah...I was wandering what deubbing mean.
<Sonarpulse-Work> sorry
<Sonarpulse-Work> I no type good
<Sonarpulse-Work> :)
<Sonarpulse-Work> so in "normal usage" no one would use those arguments
<Sonarpulse-Work> or rather the default arguments would always be used
<Sonarpulse-Work> so there's you're precedence
<Sonarpulse-Work> *your precedent
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nathan7 opened pull request #20929: boehm-gc: 7.2g -> 7.6.0 (master...boehm-7.6.0) https://git.io/v14Rd
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dbrock closed pull request #20924: cargo: set CURL_CA_BUNDLE (master...cargo) https://git.io/v182U
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<eacameron> Sonarpulse-Work: I like it.
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<eacameron> A general question: How do you folks "pin" deployments (e.g. with nixops) to a particular nixpkgs version. I'm afraid to update my channel lest I have to rebuild all my source and then test it again before the next deploy.
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<eacameron> Surely there's a way to set a particular project to use a specific version of nixpkgs.
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<simpson> eacameron: I have a clone of nixpkgs and I deploy from that. I use private branches to manage patchsets.
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<eacameron> simpson: Deploy "from" that?
<simpson> eacameron: Yeah, $ nixops deploy -I nixpkgs=~/nixpkgs
<simpson> Oh, also -I nixos=~/nixpkgs/nixos
<eacameron> simpson: Oh neat.
<eacameron> But TBH I'd much rather not have to clone nixpkgs. I'd rather user "overridePackages" in my project and then pin it somehow.
<eacameron> I suppose I could still use that to pin it.
<simpson> eacameron: What's your plan for security patching?
<eacameron> simpson: It's so advanced you wouldn't even understand it.
<eacameron> Ahh. none.
<eacameron> simpson: So I imagined that happening by updating the pin and then testing. Would that be much different from somehow merging in changes from upstream?
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<simpson> eacameron: I guess that that's what you'd have to do.
<eacameron> simpson: Is that much different from what you do with a clone?
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<simpson> eacameron: Most of the time, I have *no* outstanding patchsets which differ from nixpkgs master, so I can just pull nixpkgs, deploy to my canary, and see what breaks.
<eacameron> simpson: Lol...so that sounds like what I'd expect from my way.
<eacameron> "my way" <- a way I haven't done yet
<eacameron> My reason for not wanting a clone is that it feels much harder to discern what exactly is different between what I need and what is publicly available. I'd rather say "Heres' the public version I'm using...and here's what I had to change."
<eacameron> I realize it's isomorphic to using a clone...but I just sense that it would be easier to read/grasp.
<simpson> I dunno. I've intended from the beginning to contribute every one of my nixpkgs changes upstream.
<eacameron> simpson: Ah...I see.
<eacameron> simpson: That does make sense then..
<eacameron> simpson: I guess I was imagining that it would be more config changes than meaningful contributions.
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<eacameron> simpson: Well thanks for pointing out -I nixpkgs and -I nixos
<eacameron> That's certainly a step for me.
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<eacameron> So the next question is, nix-channel --list just says "nixpkgs https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable" How do I tell which version precisely I've been using?
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<x1n4u> i ve got a problem, with nixos-rebuild missing a operand for readlink, could anyone help me ?
<goibhniu> can you post the full error x1n4u?
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<x1n4u> goibhniu: sure http://pastebin.com/aafFS40u
<x1n4u> its nixos-rebuild switch with verbose and --show-trace
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<goibhniu> x1n4u: hrm ... can you post your configuration.nix too? ... what filesystem are you using?
<x1n4u> i am using btrfs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #20931: nzbget: 17.0-r1686 -> 17.1 (master...nzbget_17.1) https://git.io/v14K0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixops] teh opened pull request #562: Draft Digital Ocean support (master...master) https://git.io/v14yL
<simpson> Ooh.
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<octalsrc> has anyone used ghcjs in nixos?
<octalsrc> it can't seem to find its packages when doing "cabal configure" in a nix-shell
<octalsrc> nix-shell -p haskellPackages.cabal-install "haskell.packages.ghcjsHEAD.ghc" --pure --command "cabal configure"
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<octalsrc> it built the ghcjs version dependancy library and put it in my nix store
<octalsrc> but then the configure command says it couldn't find it
<octalsrc> probably I'm doing something wrong here
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] loskutov opened pull request #20933: idea.datagrip: init at 2016.3 (master...datagrip) https://git.io/v1470
<octalsrc> I have a shell.nix from cabal2nix with "ghcjsHEAD" in the compiler field
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<adnelson> hey guys, anyone familiar with how nix-store --restore works?
<adnelson> I'm writing my own tool which fetches from a binary cache. When I fetch a .nar.xz, I decompress it and then pass the result into `nix-store --restore`. This exits successfully and creates the store path. However, if I subsequently do `nix-store -qR <path>` on the generated path, nix says it's invalid :(
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<adnelson> rrrgh trying to trace logic through the libstore code... this is pretty not great
<adnelson> so there's a function `addToStoreFromDump` which looks like what I want
<adnelson> except that it doesn't seem to be accessible from the nix-store cli
<adnelson> I don't understand why there's a --restore option in the cli but it only gets you "halfway there", it creates the path but doesn't register it...
<adnelson> I mean I could go in and edit the sqlite database myself, lol. But that seems like a pretty terrible idea
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<srhb> adnelson: nix-store --register-validity --reregister I think. It's a bit arcane.
<srhb> adnelson: Like, you cat the store path to it and terminate it with.. something
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<srhb> I'm not sure it's a terribly good idea to do this though...
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<srhb> like, you probably want import instead.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v14jr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 90292a8 Tristan Helmich: nzbget: 17.0-r1686 -> 17.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ebe8268 Joachim F: Merge pull request #20931 from mayflower/nzbget_17.1...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ef26ce0 Tristan Helmich: sonarr: 2.0.0.4389 -> 2.0.0.4409
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 452e498 Joachim F: Merge pull request #20930 from mayflower/sonarr_2.0.0.4409...
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<eacameron> So I've basically copied the code for php70. But php70 in nixpkgs has "override" attribute, but mine doesn't.
<eacameron> Do I need to do something to add that?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 ff23681 Robert Helgesson: perl-Tk: 804.032_501 -> 804.033...
<anelson_> srhb: hmm, ok yeah I can try that
<anelson_> absolutely I would rather use import, but if I try to do that with a nar that I get from a nix binary cache, it tells me that it's in the wrong format... :(
<anelson_> the issue is that the .nar's that binary caches generate are created with --dump instead of --export
<anelson_> maybe there's an easy way to convert a --dump file into the format created by --export? I don't know
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #20934: gnome-shell-extensions: enable all extensions (master...fix.gnome-shell-extensions) https://git.io/v1Bkb
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1Bkp
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ee2d5e4 Franz Pletz: pythonPackages.django_1_6: 1.6.11 -> 1.6.11.5...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 601b47a Franz Pletz: pythonPackages.graphiteWeb: fix dependencies...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] montag451 opened pull request #20935: Add macvlan support for declarative container (master...container-macvlan) https://git.io/v1BIK
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/v1BIM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 1f1589e Franz Pletz: pythonPackages.django_1_6: 1.6.11 -> 1.6.11.5...
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<simpson> fpletz: You're my hero.
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<rui> In configuration.nix, in a systemd service on a timer
<rui> (hummm, nothing, I just got an idea)
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<gchristensen> simpson: fpletz is my hero, too. <3
<gchristensen> what are people's favorite terminal emulators? I'm using terminator and find it fairly annoying.
<lassulus> I'm using rxvt_unicode
<rui> gchristensen: I use lilyterm, but I cannot defend why
<simpson> I use sakura but not for any good reason.
<maurer> I use rxvt_unicode, primarily to be able to click links with my keyboard
<lassulus> termite also has keyboard selectable links
* gchristensen will try these
<mudri> VTE-based terminal emulators do colours of bold text wrong, which is my main reason for sticking to urxvt.
<maurer> What I'd be especially interested in would be any terminal emulator scriptable in a more modern language than perl (urxvt is perl-plugins)
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<maurer> e.g. if someone knows something scriptable in haskell/python or something
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<gchristensen> I wouldn't mind an iterm2 port to Linux, personally :)
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<fpletz> simpson: gchristensen: thanks :)
<fpletz> I've been using rxvt_unicode for ages but the version in nixpkgs I'm using needs a special terminfo, so when ssh'ing I need to set TERM to screen, xterm or whatever to get a working terminal \o/
<fpletz> right now trying roxterm and sakura, but not particulary fond of the vte-based terminals :/
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