<aleph->
abathur: Hmm pretty sure you can easily bolt together recoll for history searching. I had something like this a while back.
<abathur>
aleph-: I mostly just mean that I haven't felt the urge to muck with it yet; I have some vague notion that I'd like the module to be front-end agnostic if possible or at least re-use an existing interactive search, so I assume it'll devolve into some amount of low-leverage time censusing what's available and playing with them all... bigger fish to fry :)
<aleph->
Aye. By frontend are we talking gui based?
<aleph->
Because if cli is fine I can probably go find a similar tool I had.
<abathur>
nah, just the various history TUI/CLI tools around
<abathur>
not really sure what I value there; I don't presently use one myself
<abathur>
though I guess that's only relevant if it can't support multiple
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<cole-h>
so I've been trying out foot-terminal recently
<cole-h>
I miss holding shift to open urls (Alacritty has this), but the "url-mode" is pretty cool
<aleph->
Hmm
<aleph->
I think my neighbors have a legitimate DJ over
<aleph->
I might have to kill them for this
<aleph->
Why do I need to hear some smhuck yelling from a speaker to make some noise at... 9:47PM
<samueldr>
don't talk about killing people
<samueldr>
and if you plan on killing people, don't talk about it in public :)
<samueldr>
but don't
<aleph->
Yeah apologies. Just brassed off at these folks.
<aleph->
Sigh, moving can't come soon enough.
<aleph->
Instead I should redirect the sound back at them.
<ashkitten>
cole-h: i use kitty. i dont think it has a url mode but i have a keybind that opens the scrollback in less so i can search and scroll through it
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<ashkitten>
plus it has builtin ranger support for viewing images, which ime works a lot better than any other terminal with ranger
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<ashkitten>
i don't actually use ranger that much... or any file manager
<ashkitten>
who here uses a file manager?
<samueldr>
I use a graphical one to manage my "network mounts" (sshfs) mainly, sometimes to deal with graphical assets better due to icon previews
<samueldr>
I use ranger as a media center to pick things to watch
<ashkitten>
huh
<samueldr>
I've been using ROX-Filer since almost the time I started using Linux, and I'm using the AppRun concept with a "self-mounting" directory "app"
<samueldr>
it mounts whatever the folder is named via sshfs
<ashkitten>
i use jellyfin for my media. i find it really useful for streaming my library to my phone
<samueldr>
I just click those folders with the cogwheel to mount them
<samueldr>
yes, cletus is there twice, one is the "normal" ssfs mount, the other is the media folder and is mounted by the "ranger abused as a media center app"
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<aleph->
Yeah jellyfin is great
<aleph->
Pair it with a firewalled off roku tv and the jellyfin app
<aleph->
Chefs Kiss
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<ashkitten>
i really don't want to connect my tv to the internet
<ashkitten>
it already has ads on it despite never having been online
<abathur>
I was wondering how much fun you can have buying smart-TV apps the other day
<aleph->
ashkitten: Eh it's on my LAN only as is jellyfin
<aleph->
It doesn't go out
<hodapp>
using smart TVs has me just wanting to do everything on this black and white CRT
<hodapp>
I just gotta hack it to take a composite input signal instead of RF
<ashkitten>
jellyfin is on my server. i might consider letting my tv talk to it
<ashkitten>
aleph-: how do you even install the jellyfin app without internet though
<aleph->
I just use the dev app and push locally in developer mode
<aleph->
Or I open the firewall, install and then close it
<hodapp>
oh, Jellyfin is a fork of Emby?
<aleph->
Yep
<ashkitten>
well i can't even find the remote so no chance of messing with it lol
<hexa->
jellyfin et al are only useful if you watch stuff on an actual tv, right?
<hexa->
because on an actual computer monitor my terminal, cd, ls, fd and mpv are doing so well :)
<ashkitten>
no, i use it on my computer and phone
<ashkitten>
it's also useful if you have a library you want to share with friends
<ashkitten>
or if you want to stream your library from someplace else
<hexa->
sharing works via?
<ashkitten>
via logging in..?
<hexa->
ah, so a http endpoint that must be reachable
<samueldr>
IR blaster on your phone?
<samueldr>
if so you don't need the remote!
<ashkitten>
samueldr: my phone doesn't have one :(
<samueldr>
aww
<hexa->
remember my htc one m7 had one
<samueldr>
my xiaomi uh... lavender... has one, and it is so nice!
<hexa->
that was … 7 years ago?
<ashkitten>
ir blasters used to be popular but i don't think they really exist on new flagships
<samueldr>
yeah :(
<samueldr>
chinese OEMs still have them present though
<ashkitten>
so... whenever i get a flipper zero
<samueldr>
it's really neat to be able to control my oscillating fan and my aircon!
<ashkitten>
:)
<ashkitten>
i had one on an old phone
<ashkitten>
it was very nice
<ashkitten>
not sure why they're unpopular now
<samueldr>
focus groups showed it wasn't popular I figure
<samueldr>
probably because it wasn't really present
<ashkitten>
i suppose i could get a little usb one?
<samueldr>
and apple never added one, so nothing to copy :'(
<samueldr>
because, even though not everything is just copied from apple, and not everything is really an innovation from them... they _are_ a trendsetter
<ashkitten>
the pinephone should have one
<samueldr>
and trend breakers in some ways
<ashkitten>
but unfortunately not
<samueldr>
oh, that would have been nice
<ashkitten>
i guess pogo pins could get you one
<samueldr>
I guess so too
<ashkitten>
someone should make custom firmware for roku tvs
<ashkitten>
so they can run kodi
<samueldr>
"someone" could be you!
<samueldr>
probably not though
<samueldr>
it's probably "secured"
<ashkitten>
heh yeah
<samueldr>
not saying you couldn't... but that assuming it works as expected, there's probably no user-serviceable software
* samueldr
sobs
<samueldr>
I should print NO USER SERVICEABLE SOFTWARE on labels and stick that to apple devices my friends own
<ashkitten>
you'd become unbearably popular i'm sure
<samueldr>
I am!
<ashkitten>
you know what would be great, is if my air conditioner could be controlled by an external thermostat
<ashkitten>
i wonder if i could rig something up by manually controlling its duty cycle by just turning it on and off
<samueldr>
I wanted to look into something like that using ESPwhatever hardware
<samueldr>
since the thermostat on mine has two settings, too cold and not cold enough
<ashkitten>
mine is just really inconsistent due to the airflow in the room
<ashkitten>
and i'd really like the fan running more often even when the compressor isn't
<samueldr>
though I did clean it up this year... it had a big mat of fur inside
<samueldr>
and I am not the first owner
<ashkitten>
oh dear
<samueldr>
(my mom was, not stranger's fur)
<samueldr>
hopefully that'll help
<samueldr>
I completely disassembled the shell of it
<samueldr>
was way easier than I expected, and was able to clean it real good
<ashkitten>
well we're looking at moving into a house possibly, so that could actually have central hvac
<ashkitten>
i guess in that case we may end up giving this thing to a friend
<aleph->
ashkitten: What TV do you have? Roku one?
<aleph->
There's an Android/iOS app. Or if you do home assistant there's a plugin, or you can just hit their http endpoint locally.
<ashkitten>
aleph-: roku, yes. but it's not connected to the network, so lol
<aleph->
Heh, iffin you want I can get my fw rules so you can segregate it. Could also vlan it off as well.
<ashkitten>
i would appreciate that
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<ldlework>
Chakra UI is the first thing that has made styling stuff feel productive whatsoever
<ldlework>
if you do webstuff check it out
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<lovesegfault>
,locate bin llvm-config
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: llvm, llvm_5, llvm_6, llvm_8, llvm_9, llvm_10, llvm_11, llvmPackages.bintools, llvmPackages.llvm-polly
<aleph->
I should probably go learn flakes. The only downside is that kills my vendoring process with nixops. Guess I'll have to move to forking stuff onto my own internal repo.
<gchristensen>
what is your vendoring process?
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<Ke>
I was looking forward to seeing some main takeaway from the post
<Ke>
unless it is that gchristensen has regrets
<gchristensen>
ah, I'm sorry it was a bit buried there
<pie_>
Im wondering if people should generally use a *lot* more datasets with ZFS?
<philipp[m]>
pie_: For all the services on all the containers I'm up to 89 now on my main server.
<eyJhb>
philipp[m]: Do you make a dataset for each container?
<aleph->
gchristensen: Generally I have a binary cache on my network that I pull in a main release channel for, as well as mirroring any derivs past that from unstable that are common across all machines. Aside from that I vendor in a modules dir in my nixops repo any out of tree modules I find nifty, as well as a pkgs dir for any overlayed packages.
<philipp[m]>
I usually make a dataset for each application in a container and add another one in case I need some config files for environments that should not end up in the nix store because they are secret.
<aleph->
So given for modules I'm used to a `import [ ../../modules/foo.nix]` or `import [ ../../modules/foo/default.nix ]` this does change my setup given it needs to reach out outside the network now
<aleph->
Past the initial setup/caching for one node I try and keep everything working off my internal lan only. So I could build "offline" effectively.
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<MichaelRaskin>
I guess I give up and LibreOffice follows Chromium from «heaviest set to update last» to «grab whatever from Hydra, I do not care about version match»
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<gchristensen>
this laptop's fingerprint sensor is so unreliable I think I'm happier just not having it...
<MichaelRaskin>
My thinkpad might have a working fingerprint sensor, I would never know whether it is working or broken, though!
<MichaelRaskin>
(never tried)
<gchristensen>
it very rarely works in the first two tries and the prompting to place your finger on it is not good
<gchristensen>
and (this one is nixos's fault...) typing in a password requires at least a failing fingerprint read
<aleph->
Heh, can't just disable the kernel module?
<gchristensen>
I mean while it is enabled
<gchristensen>
I can just not enable the fprintd service
<aleph->
Ah true true.
<gchristensen>
but I *want* it to work nicely
<aleph->
Yeah, did the fingerprint sensor ever work correctly?
<gchristensen>
I nevertried it under windows, so who can saiy
<gchristensen>
it is fprintd-tod with goodix
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<philipp>
Nice, heisenbridge seems to work even after I patched the setup.cfg to accept the libraries in stable.
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<philipp>
A nice matrix irc bridge? Is it really happening?
<thibm>
gchristensen: needed looks like a wrong pam configuration
<gchristensen>
yea
<thibm>
gchristensen: (oops) it looks like a wrong pam configuration
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<MichaelRaskin>
Hmmm. So I have a list of Nix store paths in a text file, and these paths are currently valid. How do I create a derivation dependinf on all of them?
<MichaelRaskin>
Just in case, the list contains paths with valid derivation names that are not valid parts of path syntax
<__monty__>
builtins.toPath doesn't work?
<MichaelRaskin>
> (builtins.toPath "/a") == "/a"
<{^_^}>
true
<thibm>
MichaelRaskin: How the text file is generated?
<MichaelRaskin>
That makes me a bit suspicious·
<samueldr>
this smells suspiciously like a Nix question
<MichaelRaskin>
A lot of assorted nix-store calls (-q --deriver, -qR, -r) about paths not necessarily built from the same revision of Nixpkgs
<MichaelRaskin>
But it's clearly too unreasonable!
<thibm>
MichaelRaskin: well, nix-env --profile /somewhere -i /nix/store/OnePath -i /nix/store/AnotherPath… will definitively create and realise a derivation (user-environment) depending on the listed store paths
<MichaelRaskin>
thibm: hm, and the manifest shows me how I probably should have done it manually, thanks
<MichaelRaskin>
Hmmm, failure
<MichaelRaskin>
Argh, I only hope it is not a nix-env only behaviour. Especially as the list is too long to pass as arguments in a single call
<elvishjerricco>
I need to work on getting rid of my dependence on deployment.keys so that I can ditch nixops.
<elvishjerricco>
I'm starting to think that it's best to just manually put keys in the right spot as opposed to trying to automate it
<elvishjerricco>
Oh no. The top search result for "nixos key management" is the article that *I* wrote that I'm trying to ditch. Lol
<MichaelRaskin>
Hmm. NAR format is prohibitively disruptive to change, right? I guess extensions are fine, but valid things should stay valid…
<Synthetica>
Is there something I can run on a NAS that connects to multiple IRC networks and allows me to connect an IRC client (or presents a nice webinterface I guess)? (and that isn't a total nightmare to setup like matrix)
<elvishjerricco>
Synthetica: I recently discovered convos. I strongly recommend it if web interface is ok for you. Only reason I don't use it is that there's no way to get push notifications on my phone from it
<Synthetica>
elvishjerricco: oh that's not really a big deal for me, thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!
<ashkitten>
Synthetica: i run weechat headless on my server and connect to it with glowing-bear on my computer, weechat-android on my phone
<ashkitten>
weechat currently doesn't connect to its own relays but it's planned in the future. glowing-bear is great though
<aleph->
Eyep, can't wait for that feature to come out.
<aleph->
Maybe another year before it's in beta
<aleph->
Or actually it's planned for sept
<aleph->
Neat right around my birthday
<ashkitten>
the date has been pushed back multiple times iirc
<ashkitten>
so don't count on it, but hopefully
<Synthetica>
aaah, the JWST school of scheduling
<aleph->
ashkitten: Eyep
<thibm>
MichaelRaskin: if the only issue is that the list is too long to pass as arguments you can invoke nix-env multiple times (e.g., by using use xargs) and use the last generated user-environment
<MichaelRaskin>
That's true, but I still somewhat hope for an approach that doesn't need nix-env
<MichaelRaskin>
Or maybe all hope is lost and Nix does not exposes the required magic in any reasonable way outside nix-env
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<andi->
Why are there so many discourse threads being "closed" these days? Closing a thread is not moderation.
<samueldr>
andi-: you're probably better off asking where the moderators are :/
<andi->
Where are they?
<samueldr>
not here, that's as much as I know (unless my irc client again decided to unsync the nick list)
<samueldr>
to desync*
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<hyperfekt>
oh my god
<hyperfekt>
i did it
<hyperfekt>
the pstore pr
<hyperfekt>
it's going into 21.05
<hyperfekt>
systemd is such a trip lol
<philipp[m]>
Congrats!
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<samueldr>
you know what, not sure storing P is ideal
<samueldr>
basically there are a couple of *schemes* available in the kernel that can store kernel messages even when things go *quite wrong*
<aleph->
I need to start using that at work
<philipp>
I think the frustration is with moderation in discourse, not of this channel here.
<samueldr>
philipp: that particular discussion was moved on #nixos-dev, and yes, about discourse
<samueldr>
e.g. on many Android-based devices, you have a reserved memory area where the kernel logs are written, and that area generally is kept fresh for the next boot
<samueldr>
so even if you have a kernel panic, the last few (many) lines of log are available on the next boot
<samueldr>
it's what makes debugging some issues without serial access barely bearable :)
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<infinisil>
Can anybody recommend a mouse?
<infinisil>
Mine is slowly dying
<andi->
mx ergo
<infinisil>
An ergonomic one ideally, my hands are prone to hurting if in the wrong position
<infinisil>
andi-: Oh that ball looks interesting, do you use it, does it get in the way?
<__monty__>
infinisil: Are you ready to give up on traditional mice?
<andi->
I've been using it for years
<infinisil>
__monty__: Potentially!
<andi->
infinisil: I only use a traditional mouse for playing games that require quick & precise movements
<infinisil>
Hmm I do play minecraft occasionally
<__monty__>
I've switched to trackpads myself. Also liked a wacom as a mouse.
<andi->
infinisil: might work fine on the mx ergo... but well I used to play quake on a trackpoint
<infinisil>
Ah no trackpads are a nope from me
<__monty__>
Yeah, get a mouse for games but ditch it for everything else : )
<__monty__>
infinisil: Have you ever used a decent one though? The ones on laptops don't hold a candle to something like a magic trackpad.
<infinisil>
I have used trackpads for a while on macOS (which has arguably the best trackpad drivers), but it was just never as good as a regular mouse
<infinisil>
Yeah had a magic trackpad too I'm pretty sure
<__monty__>
You must've been holding it wrong.
<__monty__>
So much more comfortable to use than a mouse.
<samueldr>
I vouch for anything logitech since that's the only brand I have used for... how long ago 2005 was?
<__monty__>
And way more suitable to short interactions which is nice if you spend most of your time on the keyboard.
<samueldr>
mainly because they're the only one left with any kind of warranty here in Canada,
<samueldr>
and their warranty process *works*
<__monty__>
Not having warranty is legal in Canada?
<infinisil>
__monty__: Everybody is different, I don't think trackpads are for me :
<infinisil>
:)
<__monty__>
infinisil: You just haven't realised how much like me you are.
<infinisil>
No-go for gaming, but for ergonomicity and less strain it seems really good
<samueldr>
__monty__: "1 year" is not really a warranty for a 100$+ mouse imo
<samueldr>
at one point in the past logitech's warranty on expensive mice was 10 years here!!
<andi->
I also have exclusively good experience with logitech warranty
* infinisil
notes down logitech
<samueldr>
you'd think "having to have to deal with the warranty" is a bad thing
<samueldr>
since it means things broke
<samueldr>
right?
<samueldr>
no!
<samueldr>
we're outliers!
<samueldr>
well, I assume andi- is too
<andi->
early 2000s I had to ask for replacement pad underneath my mouse: 1 day later I had like 20 in the mail.
<andi->
I broke my MX510s cable once and they replaced the entire mouse.
<samueldr>
in my instance it's been the left click button starting to double-click
<samueldr>
frequent issue across all vendors AFAIK
<andi->
yeah
<samueldr>
and can be fixed DIY by buying the switch
<andi->
but they make almost no fuzz about these things
<samueldr>
I should do it
<samueldr>
since they didn't ask for the older devices back
<samueldr>
so I have two perfectly good enough mice, with dodgy left click
<samueldr>
which I could transform into perfectyl good enough well-loved and well-used mice
<infinisil>
andi-: Do you use the trackball often?
<andi->
every day
<__monty__>
infinisil: If you still have the trackpad, give it another shot for a couple weeks. Tap for click, two-finger tap for right click, three finger drag anywhere on windows and natural scrolling is all you need.
<infinisil>
Hmm nah, sorry I really pretty much gave up on trackpads
<andi->
trackpads my my fingers feel weird on the skind after extended periods of time.
<andi->
s/my my/make my/
<infinisil>
Oh yeah I remember that too now
<__monty__>
You're just mousing too much. I spend 90+% of my time on the keyboard instead.
<andi->
infinisil: I don't see the pint of that as you can still have to move it on the table?
<samueldr>
I think it's all about not "crossing over" your forearm bones
<infinisil>
andi-: Ohh wait, the MX Ergo doesn't move like a normal mouse?
<samueldr>
and really hinges on how you hold your mouse
<andi->
infinisil: you just move the ball
<hexa->
its a trackball
<hexa->
and I love it
<samueldr>
the vertical mouse is probably a "love it or hate it" product
<infinisil>
Oh then that's a no from me, I need it for gaming too!
<infinisil>
samueldr: Yeah
<hexa->
i have a g502 for gaming :)
<infinisil>
I'm thinking about giving it a go. I can probably return it if it doesn't work for me in the end
<andi->
just like you wont use a kinesis for playing shooters you wouldn't use an mx ergo for most games ;)
<hexa->
yeah, I have a separate keyboard for gaming as well :D
<andi->
(I'm guilty of using both of these for it and it works...)
<infinisil>
Well.. considering that my current regular mouse is giving up, and I will need a gaming mice in any case, I don't think it makes sense for me to get a mouse that I can't use for gaming
<samueldr>
infinisil: also check their gaming range I guess
<infinisil>
Because then I'll just have to get 2 mice!
<MichaelRaskin>
As the proper mouse discussion seems to go on, a reasonably precise stylus + XMouse on Android
<samueldr>
why not get a wacom MichaelRaskin?
<MichaelRaskin>
Hm, maybe not all gaming would be covered…
<infinisil>
Oh I do have a wacom actually
<andi->
infinisil: getting two mice is absolutely reasonably to me... Like buying multiple keyboards..
<samueldr>
yeah
<infinisil>
Haven't used it a lot as a mouse, but I do remember it working not too badly
<samueldr>
oh, you meant for multiple uses?
<samueldr>
I just bought 5 of the same keyboard
<infinisil>
andi-: You're one of those people with like 3 Kinesis advantage right? :P
<andi->
yes.
<infinisil>
Oh samueldr too probably
<samueldr>
(they were at quite a low price, and refurb)
<MichaelRaskin>
samueldr: because most of the time I still use touchpad
<samueldr>
MichaelRaskin: IIRC recent wacom devices all allow touchpad uses
<samueldr>
my old bamboo does, at least
<andi->
infinisil: what is wrong with that? I regulary work on 2+ computers..
<infinisil>
andi-: Oh nothing wrong with that at all :)
<samueldr>
but you're "one of those" anyway
* andi-
feels labeled
<infinisil>
I should probably go for that too if I've found a keyboard/mouse I really like
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, the point is it's sometimes nice to have a stylus for the Cosmo anyway, and sometimes it's nice to use that stylus for laptop, too. Wacom is laptop only, so not enough point in having it
<samueldr>
andi-: just like a key
<infinisil>
andi-: Ah sorry, didn't mean it in a bad way :)
<andi->
I know :P
<samueldr>
MichaelRaskin: don't make me get the wacom out, and plug it into a silly phone
<MichaelRaskin>
To show feasibility, you need to use the resulting contraption while walking!
<infinisil>
hexa-: I do have a very similar mouse as the g502 right now, but I'm thinking I need to get a more ergonomic one
<samueldr>
MichaelRaskin: proves nothing, some people can't chew bubble gum and walk at the same time!
<infinisil>
Tbh this Logitech MX Vertical seems like a really good compromise between ergonomicity and still a normal mice that can be used for gaming
<infinisil>
I'll go read some reviews
<samueldr>
infinisil: make sure it's somewhere you can return it easily without hassle :)
<samueldr>
since it's a "weird" hold
<infinisil>
Yeah I'd be ordering from a local shop that does returns really well
<infinisil>
Hmm, reviews are meh
<infinisil>
Slightly on the positive side, but not overly positive
<joepie91>
vertical mice as a category are great once you get used to them
<joepie91>
initially your angle of movement will be off
<hodapp>
bah, I have a Twiddler but have done a horrible job actually learning it
<joepie91>
I have a Delux M618
<joepie91>
the main thing to watch out for is that getting the right size mouse matters a lot more with a vertical mouse than with a regular one
<infinisil>
joepie91: Oh nice, lemme look that up
<joepie91>
I found the M618 to be slightly small for my pretty big hands, but not unworkably so
<joepie91>
(it's a chinese brand)
<joepie91>
I think you can get them for like $15-20 off aliexpress
<infinisil>
Unfortunately not available from my local shop hmm
<infinisil>
joepie91: Do you play first-person games with it?
<joepie91>
infinisil: I've since switched to a trackball for other ergonomics reasons, but yes, I have, and it was fine once you got used to the different angle
<infinisil>
Nice
<joepie91>
I'm not a competitive player though
<infinisil>
joepie91: How long did it take you to get used to it and its angles/positioning?
<joepie91>
infinisil: week or two
<joepie91>
it was usable in the meantime
<joepie91>
I just frequently had to adjust as I missed targets
<joepie91>
I imagine it would probably ruin your FPS perf during those weeks though :P
<joepie91>
also keep in mind that sample size = 1
<infinisil>
Hm yeah
<infinisil>
Reading some reviews, I'm noticing that many people struggle with accuracy
<infinisil>
People saying the angle is a bit off what you would expect
<joepie91>
right
<joepie91>
it's because your wrist is at a different rotational angle
<joepie91>
so your idea of 'forward' is a bit off
<joepie91>
but at least for me that was just a matter of getting used to it
<infinisil>
Hm yeah
<infinisil>
It could also be that this specific mouse has its angles a bit different from other vertical mice
<infinisil>
As if it wasn't calibrated correctly
<infinisil>
That's the impression I got from some reviews
* joepie91
has no idea :P
<samueldr>
I had to use a temporary mouse for two weeks a few months back
<infinisil>
But yeah, I bet you can get used to it in any case
<samueldr>
small one, and even though it wasn't vertical, my aim was off
<samueldr>
so it's not like it's a vertical mouse issue
<joepie91>
could've just had a really shit sensor?
<samueldr>
nah, I adjusted
<joepie91>
especially if it was one of them $5 mini mice
<joepie91>
ah
<samueldr>
though the DPI was different *too*
<joepie91>
it's kinda shocking how much difference there still is between sensors tbh
<joepie91>
in terms of accuracy
<samueldr>
but I wasn't able to hold it in my usual grip
<samueldr>
and fun thing, once I had my replacement in hand, then I started missing again!
<joepie91>
damage-free bulk disc holder, for archival work :)
<gchristensen>
:D
<joepie91>
puts all the weight on the rim instead of the data side like a regular spindle
<samueldr>
at first I thought it was a spool of EXTREME VELOCITY
<joepie91>
hahaha
<joepie91>
I can see why
<joepie91>
anyway that picture is actually rev1, which is a bit wobbly still
<joepie91>
rev2 has a much better base and is nearly wobble-free
<joepie91>
need to print a replacement base tomorrow
<joepie91>
it's assembled from 3 parts; friction fit
<joepie91>
total printing time about 2:30 hours
<infinisil>
Damnit why can't there just be like a mice place where I can try out 100 different mice and decide based on that
<samueldr>
there used to be
<samueldr>
it was called a shop
<infinisil>
Having to guess from some random pictures online is awful
<infinisil>
Interesting
<infinisil>
Never heard of these so called "shops"
<samueldr>
dramatizing a bit, but I'm mostly serious
<infinisil>
Yeah..
<infinisil>
Okay so I could do that actually
<samueldr>
I remember resting my hand on all mice on my first purchase
<samueldr>
they might not have demos anymore
<infinisil>
But I probably can't get 100 mice, but more like 5
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<infinisil>
And none of them vertical ones
<samueldr>
that, too
<infinisil>
I wonder if this would be a good business idea: Purchasing a ton of different mouse models and setting up a place where people can try them out
<infinisil>
For an entry fee of like $5
<infinisil>
Pay $5 for being able to try out 100s of mouse models?
<infinisil>
Sign me up
<andi->
is a pandemic part of your business model?
<infinisil>
Also do that for keyboards
<infinisil>
andi-: Oh let's ignore that for now :P
<infinisil>
But honestly this idea doesn't sound half bad
<infinisil>
Oh!
<samueldr>
I guess if the admission fee is a rebate
<infinisil>
People should also be able to bring new mouse models, and we'll buy them from them, as long as they aren't in the shop already!
<infinisil>
For a relatively high price
<samueldr>
ewww, old mice
<infinisil>
Oh no it would have to be a new one
<infinisil>
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<samueldr>
ugh, I kind of don't want to, but I kind of need to get a domain for a new thing
<samueldr>
but now I'm wondering if I should squat the .com in addition to the .org
<infinisil>
I'd go for .com
<samueldr>
really it will be .org, especially since it has to "feel" organization-ey
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<samueldr>
(even though other than CC TLD, it really all means nothing)
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<joepie91>
infinisil: tbh if you do that with keyboards too, and you target the keyboard turbonerds, you could probably make a viable business out of it