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<red[evilred]>
'Space
<red[evilred]>
Nope, wrong bot command
<red[evilred]>
5 minute warning on wallops Island launch
<red[evilred]>
Releasing barium into the atmosphere
<red[evilred]>
Cloud will be visible across much of eastern US
<abathur>
[comma]launch I think
<red[evilred]>
,launch
<{^_^}>
Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred] risson aaronjanse
<red[evilred]>
But I'd you're looking for it live, stream is about 30s-1m in advance
<hexa->
pitch black
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<hexa->
also the launch seemed more like how fireworks launch
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<Church->
Damn, missed the space stuff
<Church->
So how do I edit the command to add myself to the ping list?
<gchristensen>
,launch = Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred] risson aaronjanse Church-
<{^_^}>
launch redefined, was defined as Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred] risson aaronjanse
<Church->
,help
<{^_^}>
Use `,` to list all commands, `,foo = Foo!` to define foo as "Foo!", `,foo =` to undefine it, `,foo` to output "Foo!", `,foo somebody` to send "Foo!" to the nick somebody
<Church->
gchristensen: So ,launch = Ping!: infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred] risson aaronjanse Church-
<Church->
Or am I completely missing the point?
<gchristensen>
I already did it:)
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<gchristensen>
this did what you wanted: 02:01 <gchristensen> ,launch = Ping for space stuff
<hyperfekt>
samueldr: argh. just tried it again and the theme issue is still present with grub 2.04
<hyperfekt>
guess the one that was fine actually must've been built from something that wasn't unstable
<hyperfekt>
this reminds me of when i had to do test driven development in uni and ended up spending like 4 hours in total confusion messing up a perfectly good binary search so it fit my broken test cases
<samueldr>
oh no
<Church->
Oof
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<siraben>
Has anyone here set up a Nextcloud server on NixOS? What's a good config to get started?
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<eyJhb>
IBM <3 I miss the time where I could throw a IBM computer at the wall, and the wall would shatter.
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<supersandro2000>
eyJhb: a US wall or a European one?
<eyJhb>
supersandro2000: It is not fair to compare to US walls. The wolf from the three little pigs could blown them apart :)
<eyJhb>
EU ones of course! Aalborg Concrete :p
<hyperfekt>
in the us they have a homeopathic relationship to concrete
<eyJhb>
I think they get a discount in Aalborg from the local concrete manufacturer. Because everything here is made in concrete. It is a bitch to drill in.
<etu>
It's a bit funny with appgate (re #121909), horrible horrible application that I didn't manage to get working, but someone did and I'm super happy for that :)
<etu>
But the funny thing is that... when I see other linux users at work talk about it
<etu>
They have to be *super picky* about versions, because not all versions works on all distros for them
<etu>
Not even the provided deb packages and such works, so people have to go download an older deb to install that to make it work again.
<etu>
But on NixOS, when it's properly packaged and patched. Just works. Latest and greatest :)
<supersandro2000>
eyJhb: but at least you can hang literally anything on it and your kids can't make holes in it
<supersandro2000>
they rather break their bones
<eyJhb>
Weellll... I need to drill first :p But yes, I can. We however have two walls that's not concrete, but rather just plaster. And my GF wants to hang a MASSIVE mirror on that wall....
<etu>
Reminds me... I should get new drills :D
<etu>
Because... some of mine can't drill in plaster, as in, it being too hard :D
<etu>
One of the smaller drills can do it, so I have to use that, and switch to a bigger one twice to get a hole :p
<eyJhb>
etu: By any chance, are the drillbits made of rubber?
<etu>
eyJhb: Nah, I've just used them on concrete at some point :D
<eyJhb>
Ohh.... Guessing they are rounded off then
<etu>
Indeed
<eyJhb>
I used a bit made for drilling into concrete, with a hammer drill. The bit almost caught fire.
<eyJhb>
Aalborg Concrete fucking sucks..
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<das_j>
anybody has the TXT record to dig for gchristensen s VM image?
<das_j>
*does anyone have
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<pie_>
das_j: the roundabout waz is to find the PR for which it was a test case IIRC
<pie_>
on some cloud thing...
<eyJhb>
talyz, etu, adisbladis, the other swedes. Any suggestions for placing to travel to in Sweden, for being somewhat close to nature? Hiking and stuff?? Just a circa area. Looking to do some holliday not in DK :p And joining adisbladis is waaay too far away
<sphalerite>
do we need a ,swedes? x)
<eyJhb>
sphalerite: We somewhat do, but history shows that grouping together people like that might have a negative effect :(
<eyJhb>
Well that was not nice. I lightning just hit the building 10meters next to us.
<eyJhb>
It hit a somewhat seagull scarecrow thingy (bascially a metal rod with a toy bird on it). Needless to say, that does not direct lightning in a propper way
<__monty__>
Blinding flash?
<__monty__>
Or did you see the bolt?
<__monty__>
And did you hear a great bang?
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<philipp>
Did it take out any of your electronics?
<eyJhb>
,ping
<{^_^}>
pong
<eyJhb>
I have tried to reply three times now
<eyJhb>
Saw the bolt, felt the bolt, heard the bolt and could somewhat feel the electricity (ie. something hurt)
<eyJhb>
philipp: I am not sure, I don't think so. But the WiFi currently sucks heavily...
<eyJhb>
ALso, the university should either ground or remove those things from the roof
<srhb>
eyJhb: No, but I have been saying that for years (as well as so many others) great idea to have parliament be forced to talk about it, even if it's not gonna happen.
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<eyJhb>
I will count that as a vote! Spread the word srhb :D
<srhb>
For sure :)
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<adisbladis>
eyJhb: Um, idk
<adisbladis>
Åre maybe?
<adisbladis>
It's pretty sweet
<aanderse>
my kids are getting old enough that i finally need to address the problem of user accounts at home :S
<aanderse>
anyone have advice on how i should manage ~5 user accounts across 3-8 machines where i want all 5 accounts (and their files) to be available on all 5 machines?
<aanderse>
for context... everything is nixos ;-)
<gchristensen>
LDAP!
<gchristensen>
Kerberos for maximum pain
<aanderse>
gchristensen: yeah, don't worry, i'll look back and laugh at you in a few years when you're going through this pain too T_T
<gchristensen>
;_;
<aanderse>
ha ha ha
<hexa->
lmao
<aanderse>
`homed` doesn't solve this problem, right?
<aanderse>
and like... solve it in a way that is accessible to my 7 year old, just in case that wasn't clear
<andi->
it does solve it if their home is on a usb stick :P
<__monty__>
Hold on, you have things setup so you can access files from any box?
<aanderse>
"just have them ssh in and ..." :S
<andi->
^ that
<aanderse>
andi-: i'm not asking my kids to drag usb sticks around with them from box to box :P
<andi->
I think the most Nix way of handling this is to not have files.
<aanderse>
andi-++
<{^_^}>
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<__monty__>
That was my first idea too. Just make their HOME immutable.
<andi->
aanderse: if they are always at home NFS might work otherwise use something like syncthing / dropbox / ... to sync ~/MyFiles ?
<aanderse>
you get points for the correct answer, though not the practical answer :P
<__monty__>
Kids these days do everything in the cloud anyway.
<hexa->
andi-++ lmao :)
<{^_^}>
andi-'s karma got increased to 62
<aanderse>
andi-: yeah i was thinking `syncthing` might be a decent solution
<hexa->
sadly there is little more that is so compatible with everything than ldap
<joepie91>
"oh yeah we solved our state problem by letting Google worry about it"
<joepie91>
:p
<hexa->
and if you want the tie-in with nfs kerberos is the way :D
<andi->
aanderse: if you have laptops -> kerberos on top of publicly reachable LDAP server
<andi->
they might not have network for a while thus you want long living tickets :P
<aanderse>
andi-: yeah i'm trying to decide if nixos is good enough to manage accounts on its own
<aanderse>
local ldap was my first thought, but of course the issue is that the laptop is useless once you take it outside
<andi->
yep
<andi->
just manage local accounts and deal with the password fallout for now
<andi->
For the first 4-6 years you might get away with knowing the password and can thus manage it for them (via config management aka NixOS)
<aanderse>
i'm not too concerned about password fallout because at my kids school they think setting every childs password to "12345678" and denying them the access to change that password is solid
<aanderse>
or a picture of a turtle, that's another password...
<philipp>
Is it a cute turtle?
<f0x>
trick question, all turtles are cute?
<aanderse>
philipp: no. my wife was displeased by that fact and explicitly said "why couldn't they make it a cute turtle?"
<f0x>
WHAT
<aanderse>
f0x: while that may be true, not all images of turtles are cute
<andi->
aanderse: u2f auth and implant an yubikey ;-)
<aanderse>
:D
<f0x>
aanderse: hmm i guess
<__monty__>
"Click the turtle to log in." "But there's nothing but a picture of a tortoise!! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻"
<aanderse>
so if i run `syncthing` as a systemd user service it will just sync when the user is logged in... that sounds good
<eyJhb>
adisbladis: Noted!
<eyJhb>
aanderse: Give each of them their own computer with NixOS? :o
<hodapp>
'NixOS guests', like NixOS done under virtualization?
<hexa->
gchristensen: to -dev?
<f0x>
syncthing really messed with my project directories :/
<hodapp>
f0x: what did it do?
<qyliss>
gchristensen: :D
<gchristensen>
hexa-: I didn't want to interrupt a much more important question / topic :P
<f0x>
created a bunch of empty dirs, sync was super slow, lots of conflicts (especially in git repos..)
<hodapp>
I'm still stuck with the dreaded 'files that do not exist on any device are marked as out-of-sync on some devices', bleh
<f0x>
so now I just sshfs again when I need it but these days only using desktop 99% of the time anyways
<hexa->
gchristensen: fair, only mentioned it since you already linked the twitter thread ther
<hexa->
e
<gchristensen>
yeah
<gchristensen>
that was before I was hoping someone would dig in to why those VM tests keep dying in hydra
<gchristensen>
:)
* gchristensen
says, hinting vaguely at the channel
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<aanderse>
yeah `syncthing` is to be used sparingly for "power users" i've found
<aanderse>
but my kids aren't power users... so i think i can selectively choose some directories and make it work
<eyJhb>
Have anybody ever done `AutoNixOS`? Ie. nixos in your CAR?
<eyJhb>
:D
<hodapp>
...what
<MichaelRaskin>
Indeed, what is a car
<samueldr>
I use syncthing as a "pump files out of the camera folder of my phone", setup in a way where it won't sync deletions
<samueldr>
and as a "sync a folder of text files for misc. notes"
<samueldr>
anything more seems foolish in my experience
<eyJhb>
It is the ones with all the wheels.
<eyJhb>
And also, if it is french it will break down, a lot.
<eyJhb>
ANd be expensive as hell
<aanderse>
i think i pump deletions, but keep a few old copies or something
<hodapp>
but how can the French be so good at cheese if they're that bad at cars?
<MichaelRaskin>
Aren't you in Denmark where _all_ cars are expensive as hell?
<samueldr>
if you thought that'd annoy me... I'll remind you I'm not french eyJhb ;)
<eyJhb>
samueldr: no no, I just have a french car that breaks down
<eyJhb>
Generally mechanics are annoyed when I bring my car to them. It just ruins their day :p
<philipp>
eyJhb: What about nixos for my bike?
<samueldr>
why would you even buy a french car? :)
<hodapp>
to transport all the French cheese
<samueldr>
eyJhb: what about sargent mechanics?
<adisbladis>
hodapp: I'd recommend a german car for that
<eyJhb>
samueldr: It was cheap and I needed it :p Also, to be fair.. It has run REALLY well. It was a little screwed up by the deer I hit. But so was the deer. And then the rear axel went a couple of days ago... FOr real.. On the highway.. While overtaking. And for those who don't know, when the rear gives, then you cannot stear for shit. It is basically like year back wheels are on ice.
<eyJhb>
samueldr: sargent mechanics?
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: So what you're saying it's really fun to drive it on ice?
<eyJhb>
adisbladis: No no, I nearly shat my pants doing 110 and then it going right under me.
<samueldr>
eyJhb: military title, general, sargent
<thibm>
I have a french car doing well with more than 400 000km. In fact, the odometer cannot display this 4 so it overflowed and show ~10 000 km :D
<samueldr>
Seargeant*
<samueldr>
oops
<eyJhb>
samueldr: I know none that I can use... But they would most likely love it
<samueldr>
eyJhb: it was a pun on the wrong definition of general from your "general mechanics"
<eyJhb>
thibm: I am at 260.000 km. Diesel engine, 206 1.4 HDi. Hoping it can go a lot longer.
<eyJhb>
Started doing most of the work on it myself.. Having to service it soon
<eyJhb>
samueldr: Get out. :(
<eyJhb>
:D
<thibm>
eyJhb: it really depend on the make/engine/etc. I got lucky. I hope it will still last long since I don't use it a lot (I bike as much as possible) and I definitively don't want to buy a car, ever.
<eyJhb>
thibm: Generally the 206 I have has a reputation for lasting forever, except the rear axel... It has a tendency to destroy them. Normally they last a lifetime...
<eyJhb>
This lasted 15 years.
<MichaelRaskin>
From what you describe, some of them last a lifetime… the wrong way
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin: They might very well. But I was also being stupid... I knew it was not great, and that it had issues/did not handle well. But it just... Went.
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: A thing I learned re french cars as a kid: "Peugot är en bil för två, en sitter i och en skjuter på"
<eyJhb>
But luckily it is fixed now, and it only set me back 4500 DKK
<eyJhb>
> DKK 4500
<{^_^}>
"15592545.000000 VND"
<eyJhb>
> VND 15592545
<{^_^}>
"592.516710 EUR"
<thibm>
adisbladis: what does it mean?
<eyJhb>
adisbladis: Makes sense from what I have heard usually :p
<adisbladis>
thibm: It doesn't rhyme in english, but here goes "peugot is a car for two, one sits inside and the other pushes on"
<eyJhb>
adisbladis: Do you then know why Ford owners go to heaven?
<adisbladis>
No?
<eyJhb>
Because they have had enough hell on earth.
<thibm>
adisbladis: haha. They have a very good reputation in France though
<adisbladis>
I know nothing about cars newer than the 1960s :)
<thibm>
adisbladis: I like them. Cars get bigger and bigger and that's not good at all.
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: My dad is a car collector
<adisbladis>
Focusing on those micro cars
<adisbladis>
So yeah, I followed along to quite a lot of car meets
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: There is a yearly gathering in Åland
<adisbladis>
thibm: I think there is time for a ressurection of that form factor
<adisbladis>
Especially with the massive increase in electric cars
<eyJhb>
qyliss: Yes :( You can't just mention Penguin all over in there
<eyJhb>
adisbladis: So.. He has a garage with room to work on cars?
<eyJhb>
;)
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: Yes
<thibm>
adisbladis: I agree, but sadly that won't happen I think
<adisbladis>
I don't think so either :/
<thibm>
Recently, in France, we tried to make a law to increase tax on heavy cars (because they are more dangerous and others reasons). But the limit is set so high that it's completly useless.
<adisbladis>
Fun fact (I only know about the swedish regulation on this): You can drive them using either a motorbike license _or_ a car one
<MichaelRaskin>
adisbladis: can you also choose between car and motorbike registration number plate format?
<adisbladis>
MichaelRaskin: I'm not sure
<__monty__>
Here we have a distinction between those small cars that are basically scooters with a roof and cars that happen to be small.
<hodapp>
here we have nothing new really qualifying as a "light truck" and even the smallest pickup truck being sold is still bigger than the larger pick trucks of maybe 15-20 years ago
<adisbladis>
hodapp: "here" being?
<hodapp>
the US
<hodapp>
light trucks are still produced and sold in other countries, even Mexico, just not here
<adisbladis>
I think most cars here (Mexico) are huge (am european)
<hodapp>
cars here are huge too, but you sort of don't notice it compared to the huge trucks
<eyJhb>
Weird request, but anybody know the cartoon where there are a bunch of kids at school or something, and they are counting sick days, one of the kids has no sick days so they conclude that the kid showed up sick at school some of the days, and they say something like "get him!"? Can't find it sadly.
<MichaelRaskin>
(re: #nixos-dev mention of second-system effect) I once wrote two systems with the same core task, and it sounds like I have written a second system and a third system, skipping the first one
<gchristensen>
hah
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<MichaelRaskin>
I guess I was supposed to need an actually similar system to get to conclusions I got extrapolating from quite different ones…
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<samueldr>
that's reassuring... something in my configuration makes qemu hard crash when I login on serial
<samueldr>
only when using its "graphical" serial console... interesting
<cole-h>
I love it when Twitter is static, and then I scroll down one time, and all of a sudden 100000 new posts load and I lose my place
<MichaelRaskin>
This is where I try to convince you that writing numble2nix just to package nitter is a good idea, right?
<cole-h>
haha
<cole-h>
you mean nimble2nix? ;)
<MichaelRaskin>
oops, a typo, sorry
<MichaelRaskin>
yes
<cole-h>
No types allowed >:)
<cole-h>
oh no
<cole-h>
I just made one
<MichaelRaskin>
You wanted to say no _static_ types allowed, right?
<MichaelRaskin>
Because we have like 5 or even 10 dynamic ones!
<abathur>
dynamic typos?
<MichaelRaskin>
Run-time types in Nix
<__monty__>
I should write a script to replace twitter urls by nitter urls. Doing it manually's a drag.
<MichaelRaskin>
How we will know flakes took off: all the OpenGL and Qt pains about out-of-sync libc suddenly get discussed again
<philipp>
Alternatively you just started a discussion about typing in programming languages.
<philipp>
Here we gooooo!
<philipp>
abathur: typos as a sirvice
<LinuxHackerman>
__monty__: there must be a browser extension for that!
<philipp>
There is one that broke a lot of stuff for me.
<hyperfekt>
LinuxHackerman: there is. Redirector is useful for tons of things. i use it to de-mobilize wikipedia, prefix scihub to doi.org's and so on
<pie_>
hyperfekt: did someone finally make a flexible redirect addon
<hyperfekt>
it's existed for quite a while
<pie_>
> de-mobilize wikipedia
<{^_^}>
undefined variable 'de-mobilize' at (string):494:1
<pie_>
drives me nuts
<pie_>
huh. also;
<pie_>
"Apparently, I came to know from another redditor it's possible to use Https everywhere for this functionality. Just visit target website. Go to HE settings click add rule, click advanced settings. Either remove http:// the part or modify it to http?s://website.com for https website in match regex, and modify redirect to redirect link. "