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<elvishjerricco>
Wow. I had not realized how much of a shit show supporting macos has been for nix. How much of it is because / is readonly? And if that's the main problem, at what point to we just say fuck it and change the standard store path on macos?
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<siraben>
evalexpr: hm, I'm using Nix on macOS fine, what issue are you referring to?
<siraben>
You can use /etc/synthetic.conf to make an entry to /nix that points to an APFS volume
<{^_^}>
#116341 (by toonn, 7 weeks ago, open): Status of macOS
<siraben>
Oops wrong ping, meant elvishjerricco
<elvishjerricco>
figured :P
<eyJhb>
siraben: Isn't anything Apple a shit show?
<elvishjerricco>
In the not-so-distant past it was a pretty good unix environment as far as programming goes. But they've been really killing that advantage the past four years or so
<eyJhb>
It's what they do best atm....
<eyJhb>
What should I kill the time with while at the mechanic? Any ideas?
<MichaelRaskin>
What equipment do you consider small enough to bring along?
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin: Currently there and have my laptop
<eyJhb>
:D
<MichaelRaskin>
If you have laptop and even internet connection, how is this any special situation?
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin: Small screen, bad connection, bad chair/desk.. So can't do what I would normally do
<eyJhb>
But yes, it isn't that special I agree :)
<eyJhb>
But I have to do something for the next 1.5 hours or so...
<eyJhb>
*besides praying
<MichaelRaskin>
Isn't there some text you planned to read but always ended up putting off? Almost all laptops are wider than a supermajority of books…
<hodapp>
ooh, reading about content-addressed Nix now
<infinisil>
siraben: It's my custom keyboard layout using qmk
<hodapp>
I guess I had never really thought of the difference between content-addressed and input-addressed
<siraben>
Ooh, nixpkgs 17.03, did you have to fetch gigabytes of deps?
<infinisil>
So C
<infinisil>
Was pretty fast, less than a minute
<__monty__>
siraben: Well, that's actually useful in case the base in a newer GHC simply isn't compatible. Not a troublesome fix though.
<infinisil>
Very lightweight project, but still :D
<siraben>
__monty__: yeah I removed the upper bound and it worked, however maybe I should have used cabal2nix and pinned
<siraben>
that's great, I like being able to GC dependencies of projects I don't work actively on, revisiting it later knowing it will work, guaranteed
<hodapp>
siraben: this is something I rely on myself... it definitely comes in handy when working on many different projects at once
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<gchristensen>
a hazard of developing hydra is wondering why your computer is swapping so hard and programs are being oom'd, and then realizing you're evaluating 3 copies of nixpkgs at once and you can't even fully evaluate one copy of nixpkgs
<__monty__>
That sounds even worse than me and my endless LLVM builds :"(
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<hodapp>
*laughs in machine learning engineer*
<gchristensen>
yeah ... I'm glad I'm not doing that anymore :')
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<pie_>
oh wow! r13y.com is down to a single build result differring?
<gchristensen>
pretty good!
<ajs124>
shouldn't that be gone with #112928? or was that reverted?
<cole-h>
(and by hidden I mean it's only there if you have the link I believe)
<gchristensen>
and the build of it has been failing because it is out of disk space I guess ... hmmm
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<samueldr>
I like how the census asks me the language I speak at home... while I generally don't do much more than noises at the cat and calling her name
<ar>
samueldr: is there a free-form text field there? if so, i'd be tempted to put "cat" there
<samueldr>
also, the subtext seems to imply "with your family / friends", while ignoring some aspects of things that happens at home, like online gamers, or people like me who get involved in communities online
<samueldr>
ar: yes, freeform entries
<samueldr>
at least there was a "any comments/questions" text field at the end, where I added a long form comment about how this question is bad
<samueldr>
and should probably be split in questions "with your family" "with your friends" "around your neighborhood (e.g. shopping)", "at work"
<samueldr>
I can see many locales around the country where splitting it four-ways like that actually is needed
<samueldr>
people speaking with friends and family a language Z, while living in their neighborhood speaking Y, and at work having to use X
<MichaelRaskin>
Maybe for «at home» they should gate the question on household size above 1…
<MichaelRaskin>
(Of course it does not guarantee that the question makes sense for all non-single-person households, but probably good enough for statistical purposes)
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<samueldr>
the language question is important, so fixing it, rather than removing it, is important
<samueldr>
and it is my pedantic ass that has trouble with it
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<samueldr>
it's "obvious" that it's meant to be the languages you use with family and friends
<samueldr>
might be better served by pre/postPatching in whatever data it needs from .git
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<gchristensen>
hrm. ocrmypdf isn't built for aarch64 ... I suspect I'm in for a bad time trying to build it on a pi
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<adisbladis>
Bulding pretty much anything on a pi is a recipe for a bad time
<adisbladis>
Or a very long time at least
<ar>
it's still sometimes faster than building stuff through qemu user emu
<adisbladis>
Oh yes, that's also not great...
<adisbladis>
I tried building a kernel like that, not gonna try that again
<gchristensen>
I hope it at least finishes?
<adisbladis>
gchristensen: Why not on the aarch64 community builder?
<ar>
adisbladis: i did build a kernel like that a couple of times. on my 5950x…
<srk>
I'm running armv7l laptop, with xmonad :D
<ar>
adisbladis: otherwise it would be unbearably long
<adisbladis>
ar: I could imagine doing the same on my desktop
<adisbladis>
But I don't exactly have access to that one any more :/
<ar>
(that way it was just annoyingly long)
<gchristensen>
womp womp, it fails to build
<adisbladis>
Probably why it wasn't cached ;)
<samueldr>
first use the community builder to quickly get failures, and then hack for a plausible succes
<samueldr>
success*
<samueldr>
*then* do your final build in trustable environment :)
<samueldr>
adisbladis: fugly as in functionally ugly?
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<pie_>
Synthetica: were you the one with the nix snippet for building stuff from a local git checkout
<samueldr>
something about nix-shell with .overrideAttrs src = /* somehow pwd */, right?