gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<gchristensen> oh dang
<gchristensen> planet.nixos.org is a static site
<samueldr> yeah?
<gchristensen> built on a cron
<gchristensen> means we can put it in s3
<gchristensen> and front *.nixos.org with cloudfront or whatever
<samueldr> the POC works
<gchristensen> whaaaaaat
<gchristensen> that is illegal(ly cool)!
<samueldr> I *need* this to generate proper images for stage-2
<samueldr> and nixos needs this too
<aanderse> samueldr: you're making it so i can define my partitions in configuration.nix from the nixos installer by chance? :)
<samueldr> no
<aanderse> :(
<aanderse> lol
<gchristensen> please no
<samueldr> sorry if it's what it looks like :)
<aanderse> random link, clicked, no context, hoped for the best ;-)
<samueldr> though, it *could* be used to do that too
<gchristensen> you don't want to define partitions in your configuration.nix :(
<samueldr> if I factor out the sfdisk scripts
<samueldr> but I do not intend to do that
<samueldr> it's to generate disk images
<gchristensen> please don't accidentally yourself
<samueldr> like sd_image, the iso image, probably the ec2 images
<samueldr> maybe the virtualbox one too
<aanderse> ha ha ha yeah i've never really thought about it too much gchristensen but that is a good point
<aanderse> maybe for the best
<samueldr> I mean, you could do it safely, by not doing it in the configuration, but building a shell script that has an sfdisk "script" prepared
<samueldr> so you can nix-build ./partitions.nix && sudo ./result /dev/previousdata
<gchristensen> "The return hash contains a role field which refers to the Organization Invitation role and will be one of the following values: direct_member, admin, billing_manager, hiring_manager, or reinstate" hmm
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<andi-> samueldr / gchristensen: it doesn't seem to be USB port restricted anymore. Managed to boot an Arch Linux ISO from any of the USB ports. Just the NixOS image hangs on booting.
<andi-> Will investigate today..
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<clever> samueldr: that partition util looks of use for a recent nixops issue i opened
<{^_^}> nixops#1189 (by cleverca22, 1 week ago, open): plan for supporting custom partition layouts and custom FS's on any backend
<manveru> samueldr: well, i hit the segfaults too... damn :|
<manveru> guess it's time to finally build my own deploy bot instead of trying to make any of those silly CI/CD services work with nix
<manveru> so let's resurrect scylla :D
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<andi-> samueldr: build an unstable image from master and that boots..
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<adisbladis> manveru: I'd like that very much. :)
<manveru> :)
<manveru> i'll dumb it down a notch, remove all the kubernetes shit, the core was working fine already
<manveru> damn, so much stuff to do... still want to get the ruby changes in as well
<adisbladis> manveru: Nice :) Tbh my CI needs are usually very simple.
<manveru> yeah, mine got very simple too now :)
<adisbladis> If I can invoke a nix-shell/nix-build and some impure tasks to deploy I'm usually set
<adisbladis> manveru: Also if your model is simple enough it should be easy to deploy onto kubernetes anyway.
<manveru> it ended up too complex to release because i was trying to integrate it with existing infrastructure that was pretty FUBAR anyway
<adisbladis> What were you doing with kubernetes? :)
<manveru> well, it ran in kubernetes, and created a reverse ssh tunnel to ec2 for the actual workers
<adisbladis> I was experimenting with running Nix on Kubernetes last year (as in running Nix workers directly on Kubernetes)
<manveru> because doing sandboxed builds within kubernetes is still not possible, i think
<adisbladis> And sharing the daemon within a pod
<manveru> not without priviledged containers anyway
<manveru> hmm
<manveru> that also sounds interesting, but i had zero influence on the kube setup
<adisbladis> It was interesting :) I want to make that code OSS but it's so tied into other code that it's hard..
<manveru> anw, i gotta head out, promised my wife a nice date :)
<adisbladis> Also some of it can be simplified now that we have post build hooks. I had horrible hacks to achieve the same thing
<adisbladis> manveru: Go and enjoy life outside o/
<yorick> more like nixos-monthly am I right :P
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<gchristensen> https://differ.netlify.com/ whooaaa
<abbradar> wow, that's handy
<joepie91> oh, neat, I was looking for a structurally-aware differ a while back
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<etu> I've picked up some stickers today :) https://chaos.social/@sa0bse/102690051126240133
<samueldr> make sure you stick them the right way up!
<samueldr> dark blue top left :)
<gchristensen> etu++ samueldr++ so cool!
<{^_^}> etu's karma got increased to 8, samueldr's karma got increased to 108
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<samueldr> Fairphone 3
<samueldr> too bad north america can't be fair :/
<gchristensen> :(
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<colemickens> gchristensen can you remind me how to debug packet user-data for nixos?
<colemickens> tried grepping through journalctl and dmesg for 'user-data' and 'userdata' but didnt see much
<kraem> etu: i might have to cop a ticket to nixcon because of those 😛'
<samueldr> gnome-disk-image-mounter is so useful
<infinisil> samueldr: Not available in NA?
<samueldr> infinisil: they ship only in europe and UK
<samueldr> additionally, the band availability is not ideal for, at leat, the USA
<infinisil> I see
<kraem> feels weird that you have to start saying EU+UK soon
<infinisil> europe /= EU though
<infinisil> There are a bunch of countries not in the EU but still in europe
<samueldr> and territories not in europe
<vika_nezrimaya> Emacs in Termux is so beautiful
<vika_nezrimaya> right now I'm using emacsclient via ssh via termux
<adisbladis> samueldr: If you'd like to I could take delivery in the UK and hand it over at nixcon?
<kraem> yeah of course, I just came to think of it when the I read "europe and UK"
<adisbladis> vika_nezrimaya: With an on-screen keyboard? :O
<vika_nezrimaya> yes!
<vika_nezrimaya> I'm using Gboard to type this
<vika_nezrimaya> And Termux adds its own row of keys
<adisbladis> Sounds horrible, I like it :3
<vika_nezrimaya> by the way, Evil-mode or vim are the best things you could ever use with a smartphone keyboard
<vika_nezrimaya> since most simple actions don't require pressing several keys at once
<vika_nezrimaya> /
<vika_nezrimaya> and chatting on IRC is great
<samueldr> adisbladis: it was more of a general annoyance at y'all europeans getting the good devices :)
<adisbladis> samueldr: Ok :)
<vika_nezrimaya> Termux allows to swipe on an additional key row to open a text field where your autocorrection works
<samueldr> adisbladis: I don't have the budget for that, and have more phones than ears :)
<adisbladis> Anyway, if you ever want anything not shipping to canada just say the word
<adisbladis> vika_nezrimaya: Actually I'd quite like an Ofono interface for emacs
<vika_nezrimaya> Ofono?
<adisbladis> vika_nezrimaya: A dbus api/daemon for interfacing with telephone hardware
<adisbladis> To make calls and such :)
<vika_nezrimaya> calling and SMS from emacs
<vika_nezrimaya> sounds interesting
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<adisbladis> My dream smartphone is one with a keyboard good enough to live in emacs on the phone too
<vika_nezrimaya> I want something built around Org-mode, not necessarily Emacs
<vika_nezrimaya> I'd like a bigger screen. like in my Lumia 1520 which is stuck with Windows Phone and doesn't have a bootloader unlock method or a custom ROM
<vika_nezrimaya> bigger screen, GNU/Linux not Android
<vika_nezrimaya> Purism builds a phone based on GNOME shell
<vika_nezrimaya> too bad I don't have the money to buy it...
<vika_nezrimaya> if only I could draw so people could send me money for it
<vika_nezrimaya> I can't draw. The only things I can do are Python and Nix
<drakonis> draw using computers then.
<vika_nezrimaya> HTML is good for drawing, I've heard
<drakonis> technically speaking, if purism's phone achieves some measure of adoption, a org-mode based application would be great.
<vika_nezrimaya> especially when you put so much JS in a page it refuses to load
<vika_nezrimaya> corporations like this
<drakonis> run org-mode on top of emacs as an application and enjoy the goodness of notes on your phone
<vika_nezrimaya> drakonis: I plan to do this! but I need a server for storing my notes
<drakonis> have purism's OS be what tizen failed to be
<vika_nezrimaya> and... My server is armv7l so I need cross-compilation to work in Nixpkgs
<vika_nezrimaya> so I'm working on it
<drakonis> i'd definitely buy a purism 5 if it wasnt expensive
<drakonis> librem 5 that is.
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<sphalerite> Does anyone know things about SIP?
<sphalerite> Because I'd quite like to get my landline phone connection working, and that's proving to be nontrivial
<sphalerite> I've managed to make a call or two using android's built-in client, but it's awful and horrendously unreliable and I can't seem to receive calls through it
<sphalerite> so I'd appreciate a client recommendation
<sphalerite> (probably for my laptop and not for android)
<sphalerite> but also an answer to a simple question: wat?
<sphalerite> I just tried using ekiga, it doesn't want to log into the account, saying "Remote party host is offline"
<samueldr> sphalerite: on android I use CSIPSimple
<samueldr> though I don't make/receive calls much, so I haven't tried desktop clients since a while ago
<sphalerite> hm, it doesn't seem to be in fdroid :/
<samueldr> yeah
<samueldr> last time I checked, IIRC there were no clients that worked well on f-droid for me
<sphalerite> hm ok, a few tries later, ekiga seems to be registered
<sphalerite> and I can receive calls \o/
<sphalerite> leaving the question… how do I _make_ calls? x)
<samueldr> dial?
<adisbladis> sphalerite: Use a phone booth like everyone else ;)
<sphalerite> samueldr: not sure what exactly to dial, just the number gives me "User is not available"
<samueldr> :/
<sphalerite> $number@sip.alice-voip.de says "Security check failed"
<sphalerite> "SIP/2.0 403 Calling User Not Registered" :|
<sphalerite> but I am registered! Otherwise I wouldn't be able to receive calls?
<samueldr> AFAIUI receiving calls and making calls are decoupled in SPI
<samueldr> SIP*
<samueldr> is the built-in dialer still trying to register?
<sphalerite> oh hm, if I receive a call it's from number@telefonica.de
<samueldr> because that's one thing that tripped me up early on, only one session can be registered with an account
<sphalerite> um
<sphalerite> that seems stupid?
<samueldr> so if you have two programs, or devices, logging-in (registering) things will seem wonky
<samueldr> at least, AFAIUI
<samueldr> it could also be my provider, but from memory I don't think so
<samueldr> it meant that I had to make one sub-account per device :/
<sphalerite> huh, just tried again and this time it said "no common codec"
<samueldr> that sounds like it's about to work, check what ekiga is configured to use
<samueldr> if it's o2 (from deduction) it might be G.711 only
<samueldr> though it's 2011 info
<samueldr> another source of info https://wiki.innovaphone.com/index.php?title=Howto:Voice4VPN_-_Telefonica_O2_-_SIP_Testreport
<samueldr> a couple more codecs
<sphalerite> I tried enabling all the codecs (G711 wasn't on the list though)
<sphalerite> "Remote host is offline" again :|
<sphalerite> I'll try empathy
<sphalerite> oh pff it needs some d-bus service crap
<sphalerite> linphone's next I guess
<samueldr> linphone rings a bell (heh)
<samueldr> I think that's what I used, and it worked fine... except that it really wanted to change my bluetooth headset to the crap codecs
<samueldr> I never figured out how to make it so it wouldn't do that
<samueldr> and just used the current configuration of headset/mic every other software used :/
<samueldr> (but didn't look too much)
<emily> samueldr: bluetooth doesn't support using a good codec for output while receiving input :(
<emily> is what I've heard
<samueldr> emily: and you're right
<samueldr> (except for newer newest bluetooth headsets, but it's another system)
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<samueldr> but in my case I had purposefully setup another mic for capture
<sphalerite> hmm, linphone also works for receiving calls
<sphalerite> still no luck for making them though
<sphalerite> YAY
<sphalerite> it works now
<sphalerite> so _now_ I needed to use the phone number only
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<manveru> wow, nice :)
<gchristensen> pretty cool
<gchristensen> what
<gchristensen> "The fire may also spur SpaceX and government authorities to revisit local fire-management procedures."
<manveru> they're american alright :)
<gchristensen> in Texas it is illegal for a local government to have a fire code unless they have 250,000 residents
<samueldr> that's older news though, so hopefully everything's better in that (fire) department
<manveru> we'll know tomorrow :)
<manveru> either way, that engine is quite impressive
<samueldr> how much flammable material can grow in the span of a month? :)
<gchristensen> nothing grows in texas anyway
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