<siraben>
Because I want libreoffice 6.0 and emacs 26.1
<samueldr>
siraben: I believe the channel name (on the left) should have been nixos
<samueldr>
though I'm unsure
<nekroze>
siraben: I believe that samueldr is correct that it must be called nixos
<samueldr>
yeah, pretty much confirmed
<iqubic>
How do you change the name of the channel?
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<siraben>
You delete it first
<siraben>
And add it again
<nekroze>
iqubic: it is set as the final parameter when you add it
<nekroze>
iirc
<samueldr>
when you --add a channel, if you don't give a specific name (like you probably did) it would be named by dropping the part right to the hyphen
<samueldr>
nekroze: yes
<iqubic>
siraben: Did you ever manage to get emacs installed/
<samueldr>
(I use a git checkout on my machines, so it's a bit harder to be 100% sure)
<samueldr>
siraben: does it work with the channel named "nixos" ?
<siraben>
iqubic: Yeah it was easy
<siraben>
nix-env -i emacs
<siraben>
But I have a lot of issues with wireless
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #43990 → fix build with allowAliases=false → https://git.io/fNl2l
<siraben>
nixos-rebuild switch is saying that "texlive-combined-full" is an undefined variable
<siraben>
In my configuration.nix
<siraben>
Despite texlive-combined-full being a valid package name, correct?
<nekroze>
siraben: unlikely, nixos.texlive-combined-full might be though
<nekroze>
sorry I meant pkgs.texlive-combined-full
<siraben>
But isn't the whole thing wrapped in environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [ ... texlive-combined-full ]; ?
<samueldr>
siraben: that's the name = "" of a package, but not the attribute name it seems
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @ysndr opened pull request #43991 → solaar: add unreleased but supported master branch version → https://git.io/fNl2P
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<lostman>
is there a way to pass individual files to `src` in `mkDerivation`? I would like to pick specific files and directories from `./.` rather than passing it all
<justan0theruser>
are there methods to secure these builds? Do any nix packages have gitian builds?
<justan0theruser>
or some method of verifying that amazon isn't having me run malicious code
<siraben>
Building libreoffice from source is fun
<siraben>
Can I decide to move back to the stable branch from unstable later?
<Jason_Grossman>
siraben: Yes, AND ...
<Jason_Grossman>
... since (almost) everything is declarative, it's a safe switch, unlike most OSes.
<siraben>
wow wee!
<Jason_Grossman>
Yep.
<siraben>
So what do I type into the terminal?
<Jason_Grossman>
Change to the stable channel (see the manual) and then update the channel and then sudo nixos-rebuild switch.
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<siraben>
Seriously that's it, crazy.
<d1rewolf>
siraben, nixos is crazy beautiful ;)
<siraben>
Except if wifi didn't sporadically disconnect haha
<d1rewolf>
siraben, sorry you're having that issue. I'm only a week into nixos, but I've got it on three machines and none have exhibited wifi problems (yet...knock on wood) :-)
<siraben>
d1rewolf: I suspect it's due to macbook pro driver problems, I had some wifi issues on debian as well
<d1rewolf>
siraben, ah...I have not done it on a mac yet
<siraben>
So it looks like I won't be using Nixos much, but for my next computer I'll keep it in mind :)
<d1rewolf>
but they seem to be troublemakers when it comes to linux based on what I've read in the past
<siraben>
Actually it's still perfectly usable, if I can put up with wifi
<siraben>
Hah, see the new macbook pros
<d1rewolf>
siraben, what driver are you using?
<siraben>
broadcom-sta
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<d1rewolf>
siraben, me personally, I have bought macs at times over the years for reasons which really wouldn't hold water
<d1rewolf>
I have always convinced myself through arguments that it was worth it
<d1rewolf>
the two arguments I end up using (or have in the past) is 1. it will be easier for my family, and 2. I will develop some sort of iOS app and need it
<siraben>
Everyone should be using GNU/Linux.
<d1rewolf>
1 has proven false, except for those cases where Apple applies significant peer pressure to your children to get them to use it (iMessage)
<d1rewolf>
and 2...well, damn it. haven't yet ;)
<d1rewolf>
siraben, I'm not sure it's for everyone, but I'll tell you that eliminating my 27inch iMac from my machine mix was one of the best decisions I've made
<d1rewolf>
right behind switching to nixos and finally committing to use i3 ;)
<siraben>
Well it's because it uses ethernet
<jackdk>
I bought a mac laptop once, thinking I'd give the ios thing a go. then the (later rolled back) language restrictions for app store apps came out and i drew the line
<siraben>
d1rewolf: I tried to push people to use Signal
<d1rewolf>
siraben, what uses ethernet?
<siraben>
d1rewolf: Your iMac?
<siraben>
Oh you eliminated it
<d1rewolf>
right ;)
<siraben>
I thought you installed NixOS on it and said it was a good thing
<siraben>
haha
<d1rewolf>
lol
<d1rewolf>
no
<d1rewolf>
I removed it completely, and now use my dell 5520 laptop with a 43-inch 4k monitor
<d1rewolf>
which happens to be a $279 4k tv
<d1rewolf>
whcih happens to be freaking amazing for that price
<d1rewolf>
tcl 43s405. honestly the best display I've ever had
<jackdk>
what's the latency like on the tv? I have been thoroughly disappointed by most modern tvs
<d1rewolf>
has chrome 4:4:43
<d1rewolf>
er
<d1rewolf>
chroma 4:4:4
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<nikki93>
trying to decide if i should get hidpi on my next laptop -- what do y'all think?
<nikki93>
is it annoying to work well w/?
<d1rewolf>
nikki93, not bad once you get used to it
<nikki93>
mostly going to only use laptop but occasionally will hook up to external display
<d1rewolf>
I have a dell 5520 15-inch with 4k
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<nikki93>
d1rewolf: nice -- do you use X or wayland?
<d1rewolf>
just need to adjust scaling when not docked
<d1rewolf>
nikki93, I've tried both. still using X for now
<nikki93>
does it understand your hidpi well
<d1rewolf>
nikki93, depends on what desktop env i'm using
<nikki93>
i'm mostly planning on using terminals for everything, maybe GUI emacs, and deciding which browser to use (considering luakit, surf, ...)
<nikki93>
o was gonna use dwm or i3 or awesomewm or such
<d1rewolf>
gnome has a scaling setting which works well. with i3, I just tweak ~/.Xresources
<d1rewolf>
I'm currently running i3 on nixos on a 43-inch 4k and it's beautiful at full 4k res. on the 15-inch laptop, I typically scale down to 1080p
<d1rewolf>
nikki93, I think it does make sense. However, I'm very new (two weeks) to nixos, so I'm gradually switching things over...
<tertle||eltret>
i didnt know they make 4K that small
<nikki93>
nice
<nikki93>
i used arch for a while and am using mac now and thinking to go back to linux and excited to try nixos for that
<Yaniel>
tiny pixels <3
<d1rewolf>
tertle||eltret, at 15-inch, it's not worth it
<d1rewolf>
too small
<d1rewolf>
now, on the 43-inch display, it's........wonderful
<nikki93>
d1rewolf: i was gonna do a 14 inch lappy with 2560x1440
<Yaniel>
4K at 24" is very nice at the distance I normally use it
<d1rewolf>
nikki93, good luck. I would only pay the extra for 4k if you plan to use an external monitor (personally)
<nikki93>
i have a 4k external monitor already
<nikki93>
just was thinking that having hidpi on lappy would make it so i can go up and see more and still have it look good (i have good eyes i guess) @_@ hehe
<d1rewolf>
then you should enjoy it
<nikki93>
thx :D
<d1rewolf>
nikki93, yes, as long as you can squint, you'll be good
<Yaniel>
4K on a laptop is a bit overkill I guess
<d1rewolf>
but i3 or tiling managers I find are almost crucial to leveraging the extra space
<Yaniel>
apple is pretty close to the ideal DPI with their 15" 2880x1800
<nikki93>
definitely
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<nikki93>
anyone here using a thinkpad x1 carbon 6th gen?
<nikki93>
the one that came out in 2018
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<siraben>
I don't think my GNOME shell is the most recent---how do I check?
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<tenten8401>
I think there's an "About" thing in the settings
<tenten8401>
for Gnome
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<siraben>
Ok I'm trying to use GNOME 3.28
<siraben>
I think services.xserver.displayManager.gdm.enable = true; is it, right?
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<d1rewolf>
does nixos-container use docker, lxc or something else? and is it possible to run a gui environment easily in a container created by nixos-container?
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<Jason_Grossman>
siraben: gdm is not gnome shell. gdm is gnome's greeter.
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<siraben>
So does it replace the login screen?
<Jason_Grossman>
Yes.
<Jason_Grossman>
If you want.
<siraben>
Ok.
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<siraben>
Why is Deja Dup an older version?
<siraben>
I can't restore from my encrypted backup
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<pie_>
does anyone know how to get qt compiled with gif support? is it in qtfull vs qtbase?
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<samueldr>
if it's building under the user `paprika` you probably can import <unstable>
<pie_>
ok yeah, i forgot this isnt my "use nix properly" machine
<samueldr>
I'm glad I don't have such a machine ;)
<pie_>
well build hasnt crashed and burned yet so, yaaaay
<kalbasit>
hey guys, so I'm still trying to wrap my head around `mkIf`. I have this config that I import from inside of `configuration.nix` that depends on files existing at a specific path. Those files will not exist on my non-work machines or on new machines so I currenly have a `var = if pathExists then readFile else ""` but how can I surround all the `services.nginx... = ` with a check that the var is not empty? The file in question
<justan0theruser>
if I want to make a backup, what directories do I need to guarantee I can go back to the state my file system would be at if I ran `sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`
<justan0theruser>
anything other than /etc /var /boot /root /home ?
<samueldr>
I think in /nix/var there are things you may want?
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<samueldr>
depends on whether you want all the current state of your machine
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<samueldr>
» will cause Nix to look for paths relative to /home/eelco/Dev and /etc/nixos, in that order. It is also possible to match paths against a prefix. For example, the value
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<samueldr>
so, <foo> will check $HOME/.nix-defexpr/channels/foo and /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/foo
<kalbasit>
ohh I see
<samueldr>
in other words, your channel names are available in brackets
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<kalbasit>
so in other words, since I submodule nixpkgs to my repo and control all overlays in the same repo, I should remove all references to channels and only leave the one `nixpkgs` and the `nixos-config`
<kalbasit>
this should work gr8, hopefully :)
* samueldr
just realised his own NIX_PATH is wrong :/
<samueldr>
but keeping those there shouldn't cause harm
<kalbasit>
well, only a reboot will tell :)
<kalbasit>
samueldr: well the other day I couldn't figure out why my system was out of date, it seems that it was favoring the `.nix-defexpr/channels` over my `nixpkgs` and the system was out of date
<kalbasit>
so I used `-I nixpkgs=...` and it worked but still couldn't figure out why
<samueldr>
ah
<kalbasit>
this happened during first install
<samueldr>
you're on unstable?
<kalbasit>
yep
<kalbasit>
oh I also had to `nix-channel --add ...`
<kalbasit>
and `nix-channel --update`
<samueldr>
I really need to test things out for whatever seems to happen with sudo
<samueldr>
*that's where I forgot to re-add $HOME/whatever to the nix path 😩
<kalbasit>
the best tool for code review, is to explain your code :)
<samueldr>
I start writing a gist with hard questions, or a discourse post, and then end up cancelling the post and answering myself :S
<kalbasit>
yep :)
<kalbasit>
ok final question: so I currenly have overlays at https://github.com/kalbasit/system/tree/master/overlays so I have to `ln -s <system> ~/.config/nixpkgs` where system is where the repo is cloned. How can I avoid this symlink?
<kalbasit>
it sucks to have to create it just so I can bootstrap a new machine
<samueldr>
hah!
<samueldr>
I have a weird trick because I too didn't like the duplication
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<kalbasit>
also my user couldn't find the all derivation
<kalbasit>
so it did not work :(
<samueldr>
yeah, my main issue with overlays at first was how I couldn't nix-env -iA some-new-attribute (for something that didn't make sense to be in systemPackages)
<kalbasit>
samueldr: does this hack requires overlays at `/etc/nixos/overlays`?
<samueldr>
not at all
<kalbasit>
with the symlink to `~/.config/nixpkgs` I was able to `nix-env -i all`
<samueldr>
what I'm thinking about is cases where e.g. you're updating something in nixpkgs, you cd ~/nixpkgs (or whatever) and then `nix-build -A attrpath` like `nix-build -A hello`
<kalbasit>
samueldr: `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A pet` this works for me
<kalbasit>
pet is coming from an overlay
<kalbasit>
oh I see
<samueldr>
yeah, maybe I wasn't clear enough, that's so I don't get overlays
<kalbasit>
let me try that
<samueldr>
only "pure" nixpkgs for nix-build
<kalbasit>
I see, got it!
<kalbasit>
that's actually pretty good, thank you
<samueldr>
made it after accidentally shipping a wrong update to a package I maintain
<samueldr>
the one in my overlays worked fine though!
<kalbasit>
yea this really helps, I'll do the same
<sphalerite>
Anybody got an example VM guest config with virtualbox shared folders that I could take some "inspiration" from?
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<sphalerite>
Also, I want to include my configuration.nix in the virtual machine (building using nixos/modules/virtualisation/virtualbox-image.nix) so that I can keep it up-to-date without rebuilding the image. What's the best way to do this?
<{^_^}>
[nix] @edolstra merged pull request #2302 → prim_foldlStrict: call forceValue() before value is copied → https://git.io/fNWBp
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<epta>
domenkozar: hi. Wasn't there any issue with haskell libs being shadowed that you were investigating last week? I believe I saw some ticket, but cannot find it now
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #44003 → Add missing semicolon to weechat example → https://git.io/fNlFk
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<Izorkin>
how-to replace default function callPackage to custom? https://pastebin.com/Ycpk8yKY Need called pkgs.packname with callPackage = pkgs.lib.callPackageWith (pkgs // self);
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<adisbladis[m]>
Nope. Didn't solve the issue :(
<adisbladis[m]>
bkchr: :(
<adisbladis[m]>
And I don't really have the time to debug this right now
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #44003 → Add missing semicolon to weechat example → https://git.io/fNlFk
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed commit from @alyssais to master « doc: add missing semicolon to weechat example (#44003) »: https://git.io/fNlFQ
<jD91mZM2>
Never mind, it still complains about outdated neovim, even though I tried (unstable.python.withPackages (_pkgs: with unstable.python27Packages; [ neovim ])) which is like specifying unstable twice
<jD91mZM2>
/nix/store/*-python-2.7.15-env/lib/python2.7/site-packages/neovim points to 0.2.4
<manveru>
jD91mZM2: did you try :UpdateRemotePlugins ?
<manveru>
at least i need to do that after every update for deoplite and denite
<jD91mZM2>
I didn't, but it doesn't appear to help
<manveru>
what does :checkhealth say?
<jD91mZM2>
Outdated version, 0.2.4 != 0.2.6
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<manveru>
hmm
<jD91mZM2>
Ok so I lied about /nix/store/*-python-2.7.15, I have multiple. Some of them are 0.2.6
<jD91mZM2>
Where is neovim getting the store path from?
<{^_^}>
[cabal2nix] @peti pushed to master « hslua: fix post-processing failure caused by use of 'each' »: https://git.io/fNlja
<wucke13>
Hey there, would someone mind to check wether this works (=builds) on his computer? `nix-shell -p 'python27.withPackages(ps: with ps; [colorama dateparser scikitlearn numpy pandas matplotlib ])' `
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @offlinehacker pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fN8Jf
<etu>
FRidh: Great work with the PHP PR, the derivation is so much easier to read:)
<wucke13>
Thanks for the information. I was asked by a friend who happens to have used python2. Porting to python3 was easy though, so from my side this is fixed
<wucke13>
Good to know that python2 becomes itchy
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<FRidh>
etu: glad you like it. Will wait with merging a couple more days
<__monty__>
And here we are supporting something back to py2.6 : |
<FRidh>
oh my
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #44006 → gotop: works on non-Linux Unixes → https://git.io/fN8Jp
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #44009 → Merge staging-next into master → https://git.io/fN8I3
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<ckauhaus>
FRidh: I think specifying 'pyyaml==3.12' instead of 'pyyaml>=3.12' in setup.py was actually a mistake
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<Izorkin>
how-to replace default function callPackage to custom? https://pastebin.com/Ycpk8yKY Need called pkgs.packname with callPackage = pkgs.lib.callPackageWith (pkgs // self);
<FRidh>
ckauhaus: well you likely dont' want 4.1 which was released and retracted
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<WilliamHamilton[>
what's the way to install flash nowadays (using nixpkgs.config.firefox.enableAdobeFlash = true; as written in the manual fails)?
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<ckauhaus>
FRidh: that's right
<sphalerite>
WilliamHamilton[: I think that's the right way, it's just that adobe have broken the download link again and nobody's updated the package yet. I think.
<srhb>
WilliamHamilton[: fwiw it works on unstable. Looks like a missing backport.
<WilliamHamilton[>
srhb: wait, but I am on unstable
<srhb>
WilliamHamilton[: nixos-unstable? tbf I'm a little ahead, more like master from a few days ago..
<WilliamHamilton[>
in fact, I updated a few minutes ago just to be sure
<srhb>
WilliamHamilton[: 1e4cd7a81014b2dce0f7590e90bbb42ab9e74fc2 and 90380d0fa947a5fbb072474238c4440518c7b834
<srhb>
At least those are different from upstream/nixos-unstable and my HEAD
<WilliamHamilton[>
ok, so I'll try to install from today's master, thanks
<WilliamHamilton[>
sphalerite: thanks for the explanation for why this happens
<sphalerite>
it has a smaller test set, notably not including graphical stuff
<sphalerite>
so it advances faster. The -small channels are recommended for servers and such, to get security updates in faster
<sphalerite>
(there's a corresponding nixos-18.03-small too)
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<WilliamHamilton[>
sphalerite: I see, thank you. And since I can mix and match channels, I could install flash from there
<sphalerite>
WilliamHamilton[: yeah although it's a bit more fiddly to mix channels for nixos config
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<sphalerite>
easiest solution is putting the flash-enabling setting in your .config/nixpkgs/config.nix and running nix-env -f channel:nixos-unstable-small -iA firefox
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerite: thanks for the heads up. i just set up nix how i like (i hope) with overrides. so knowing that is a bit smashing....:D
<sphalerite>
it's next to trivial to convert a packageOverrides function to an overlay
<sphalerite>
see the deprecation warning in the PR
<sphalerite>
your work won't be lost :)
<__monty__>
True, but trivial busywork is still busywork : )
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<sphalerite>
__monty__: still nicer than having the confusion between packageOverrides, foo.override, foo.overrideAttrs, foo.overrideDerivation, and overlays for every new user :)
<RetardedOnion>
i gotta say the docs of nix are not "arch-grade" so looking on gits for configurations to help you is what i went for. and i hope it went fine.
<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: I absolutely agree, and we're always working to improve it
<sphalerit>
Deprecating packageOverrides is my current little corner of the effort
<sphalerit>
Arch has a lot more people working on it, including the docs 😅
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<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: i thought "deleting one patch and adding a few different patchfiles" wouldnt require too much effort. i was wrong:D https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#chap-overlays makes me feel even more alone
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<RetardedOnion>
i have 4 packages in the aur. i quite like arch. it just has some(many) issues
<__monty__>
I actually think the docs that *are* there are of higher quality. I'v run into some *terrible* docs on the arch wiki. Can't be beat for coverage and examples though.
<__monty__>
It's just that the arch docs paradoxically run counter to the arch philosophy of understanding your system. It's more "blindly type these commands and it'll 'just work'."
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<__monty__>
sphalerite: Confusion shmonfusion, I'll just wait till it breaks : )
<etu>
RetardedOnion: I've been on arch but moved over to NixOS more than a year ago due to my active hate of their need to always upgrade. If you don't upgrade you can't install stuff. And whenever you upgrade the kernel they *rip out* the working kernel and it's modules from the filesystems and put a new in place so you can't load modules if you upgraded the system.
<RetardedOnion>
__monty__: i agree. though arch has gotten very casual with many distros that shouldnt exist. so the wiki gets flooded with more crap.
<etu>
And people using AUR helpers installing random stuff from there
<etu>
I'm surprised that they didn't find malware in there earlier than a few weeks ago
<RetardedOnion>
etu: you need to upgrade every 3 months if packages get replaced. dont -Sy, always -Syu or just -S. the modules can be backed up easily with a hook that places them in /tmp.
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<RetardedOnion>
yep. aur helpers are a real pain. dont blame the aur, blame yourself. the aur is community maintained and supervised
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<RetardedOnion>
even snapshots is easy with snapper, snap-pac and snap-pac-grub.
<etu>
I still prefer the NixOS way
<etu>
:)
<|Leary>
pacman isn't a real package manager, it only attempts to achieve a consistent state after a complete update. If you install new packages without updating everything else you can break things.
<__monty__>
etu: I suspect they just didn't look.
<etu>
__monty__: Yeah, that's my theory as well
<RetardedOnion>
there was malware found in the aur.
<RetardedOnion>
a few weeks ago
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<etu>
RetardedOnion: Yeah, I said. And I was surprised that they haven't found something like that earlier.
<RetardedOnion>
|Leary: that is the whole idea behind it. "simplicity" and "partial upgrades are not supported"
<|Leary>
Imo it's a pretty bad idea. >.>
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<RetardedOnion>
its a pain to package for debian/nix/anything else though.
* etu
find nix easier to package than debian
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* __monty__
finds nix easier to package than anything else, including arch
<RetardedOnion>
|Leary: its not meant for mass use. its for people who want upstream and new software. it should never replace ubuntu or such crap. so its mainly for devs. it has no reason to be this big. but that is why i used it.
* etu
has 8 years of experience of gentoo as well, gentoo is quite easy to package for
<RetardedOnion>
__monty__: why do you think that? its just bash script with a few variables
<__monty__>
That sounds like a nightmare.
<RetardedOnion>
i think we can conclude that debian sucks in many ways.
<betaboon>
is it possible to define arguments for a nixops deployment in a file instead of using setargs ?
<mkaito>
go package wxPython for python 3.6 and come back to tell me how much fun Nix packaging is
<RetardedOnion>
can we purge python already?
<__monty__>
mkaito: We didn't say fun though.
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<mkaito>
might as well try to purge javascript
<mkaito>
I just wanted to run Pyfa on NixOS. Requires both python 3.6 and wxPython. So now I run it in a windows VM.
<mkaito>
because NixOS
<RetardedOnion>
purge the complete www. waay too much overhead
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<RetardedOnion>
400m ram for a bit of text and 2 pictures.
<mkaito>
I can't even get the folks are work to use email. If you take away their fancy webapps, they will probably all just die.
<sphalerit>
Well nixos doesn't support partial upgrades very well either :/
<sphalerit>
It's certainly possible, just not easy
<goibhniu>
mkaito did you try installing it using nix-shell and virtualenv?
<joehh>
__monty__: agreeing with you, I think one of debian's biggest contributions is their pickiness over licensing and insistence on documenting that as part of their packaging. The effort that goes into the debian/copyright file is a huge benefit to the whole OS community
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: why would you do partial upgrades? i dont see the appeal
<mkaito>
goibhniu: sure. there's no python36Packages.wxPython in nixpkgs, so that didn't work. But it's not like I'm a python expert, I just want to run this thing.
<mkaito>
RetardedOnion: it happens when something blows up half way through
<etu>
sphalerit: Pulling in specific things from another channel would be one way
<RetardedOnion>
joehh: additionally debian patches are never upstream(builds a monopoly, fuck that), apt sucks and debian isnt anything special. we can purge it as well.
<goibhniu>
mkaito ah yeah, you can usually install python stuff that isn't in nixpkgs with pip in a virtualenv ... I can give you a hand if you want to try that out ... it has caveats, but I suspect it will be nicer than using Windows
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<mkaito>
goibhniu: considering that windows 10 runs like molasses without proper 3D acceleration, probably, yes.
<__monty__>
mkaito: Not sure that's true but if it is there's still kvm.
<joehh>
RetardedOnion: not sure I completely understand you, but I think you are right, debians most important contribution is not their packaging system or packages. It is their inertia/historical importance and non technical aspects (documentation of licensing etc). I feel they are at risk of becoming irrelevant otherwise
<RetardedOnion>
i assume you meant WSL. it sucks, has no x and no support for not shitty filesystems. all typlical windows crap is still there
<RetardedOnion>
joehh: they got some history. well GB had some history. i dont think debian should exist nowadays.
<mkaito>
__monty__: guess the so-hated X11 model has its advantages. try doing that with wayland.
<RetardedOnion>
joehh: great britian
<joehh>
:)
<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: package you need breaks in update, you want everything else updated though
<RetardedOnion>
x has disadvantages. especially with security. wayland will never finish since bsd doesnt care anymore. so linux on the desktop will stay "complicated"
<asymmetric>
hey peepz, i'm having a hard time packaging a java app that uses maven - i tried the mvn2nix tool but it's unmaintained unfortunately
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: i get that. i would maybe try to fix it or just use an older snapshot
<asymmetric>
and it has bugs - like that it can't download libraries that don't have a checksum
<sphalerit>
etu: yes it's just no fun. nixpkgs.* config options don't apply to separately imported nixpkgs for instance. You have the overhead of evaluating another nixpkgs. Multiple versions of other stuff in the store. Hence "possible but not easy"
<asymmetric>
how are people packaging stuff that uses maven?
<etu>
sphalerit: yeah...
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<betaboon>
anyone knows if you can set arguments in nixops using a file instead of set-args ?
<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: yes, but you might not have time to fix it, and need other stuff updated
<sphalerit>
For some bugfix in other stuff or similar
<sphalerit>
This is biting me especially on my Chromebook, where I have to build most of the stuff locally because it's armv7
<sphalerit>
And stuff tends to break because it's not an officially supported arch
<sphalerit>
So I haven't updated my system in 2 months because rust has been broken and I have better and easier stuff to fix
<RetardedOnion>
tbh, never had such problems where updates broke something so essential that i would consider it a "partial upgrade". just because i use an old quassel, my system wont break
<sphalerit>
bebarker: I'm not on my computer so I can't check properly just now but chances are it's either not present at all, or set by a config module
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: maybe my applications arent as complicated that i need to do that on a regular basis or it never happened to me. then again, i am VERY new to nix
<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: aarch64 is more or less supported.
<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: armv7 isn't officially supported but works reasonably well
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<sphalerit>
There's a wiki page for nixos on arm in general, can't get the link for you easily right now cause I'm on my phone
<sphalerit>
But I'm sure you can find it ;)
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<srhb>
bebarker: It's not a package indeed. It's symlinked in place from tzdata during the activation process
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: thanks for the heads up. the pine64 is aarch64 i think. though i really dislike allwinner
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<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: I have it happen regularly with development packages, where I need a new bit of api from one but another is broken. Usually it's an easy "fix" but it's still annoying.
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<srhb>
bebarker: Part of the whole etc store path :)
<dtz[m]>
So is that extraUtils-all-jobs-are-failing still happening?
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<dtz[m]>
We need sirens and red lights
<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: you wouldn't want to do this with any other package manager either. The point is for the package manager to know what's going on, and if you fiddle with the files behind its back the state of the package manager and the actual files will be inconsistent with each other.
<dtz[m]>
Shame the email thing had to stop
<dtz[m]>
I understand why lol but it's just strange to have things all failing and NOT alert all the people haha
<sphalerit>
You could hypothetically sync the entirety of the nix store together with the database between two machines, but you'd have to take extreme (unreasonable IMHO) care not to make any concurrent changes
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: would i be able to create a file for all packages so i could just pass the file to xargs to install it? -q gives version numbers. is that possible
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<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: That's basically what the config.nix with a buildEnv would achieve.
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<sphalerit>
RetardedOnion: that's sort of what clever suggested, except what clever suggested is better
<RetardedOnion>
__monty__: but i would have to do it myself. i thought about nix-env -q > file and then just xargs -a file nix-env -i on the other machine.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @alexshpilkin opened pull request #44015 → networking: include local Unbound in resolv.conf → https://git.io/fN8GH
<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: Well the idea is you'd only ever nix-env -iA nixpkgs.yourBuildEnv. And just edit config.nix when you want to add/remove a package.
<__monty__>
It's basically switching from imperative to declarative package management. Which is nix's forte.
<RetardedOnion>
__monty__: ok. thanks. so i just have to write all my packages into the config.nix. thats not fun. whatever...
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<__monty__>
You could write your own wrapper that does so for you.
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<RetardedOnion>
just a bit overkill
<tilpner>
__monty__ - How would you do the translation from name to attribute path?
<__monty__>
Evaluate *all* of nixpkgs ; )
<tilpner>
D:
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<clever>
__monty__: some names map to several attribute paths
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<sphalerit>
tilpner: well that's what nix-env -u does anyway!
<tilpner>
:/
<__monty__>
I didn't necessarily mean you'd use package names though, I meant a script that literally adds the line you specify to config.nix at an appropriate line.
<__monty__>
I don't know why editing a file is "not fun", I'm just saying if you're motivated enough you don't *have* to ; )
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<RetardedOnion>
i have some packages installed. i can probably just put "kdeconnect" or whatever in the file. maybe it works. still more work than just pacman -Qqe > file and then xargs -a file pacman -Syu
<sphalerite>
RetardedOnion: specially crafted for you
<sphalerite>
echo $'{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:\npkgs.buildEnv {\n name = "'"$USER"'-env";\n packages = with pkgs; ['; nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -qaP > /tmp/pkgs ; nix-env -q | while read name ; do grep -F "${name%%-[0-9]*}" /tmp/pkgs | awk '{ print $1 }' | head -n1 | sed 's/^/ /'; done ; echo $' ];\n}'
<sphalerite>
^ this should write you a declarative user env file :p
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<sphalerite>
it's hacky and might not work perfectly, but hey
<RetardedOnion>
sphalerit: i will have a quick look over it. thank you so much
<sphalerite>
oops, s/packages/paths/ in it
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<sphalerite>
,todeclarative = echo $'{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:\npkgs.buildEnv {\n name = "'"$USER"'-env";\n paths = with pkgs; ['; nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -qaP > /tmp/pkgs ; nix-env -q | while read name ; do grep -F " ${name%%-[0-9]*}" /tmp/pkgs | awk '{ print $1 }' | head -n1 | sed 's/^/ /'; done ; echo $' ];\n}'
<{^_^}>
todeclarative defined
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<robstrr>
On my Mac, running `nix-env -i haskellPackages.ghcid` results in `error: selector 'haskellPackages.ghcid' matches no derivations`, 'nix-channel --list' yields `nixpkgs https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable` whats wrong here ?
<sphalerite>
in this case it's just a matter of adding -A to your commnad
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<RetardedOnion>
i am asking myself why linuxPackages_samus_4_12.acpi_call is there. nix-env -q says its 4.17-5. my configuration.nix has acpi specified.
<robstrr>
sphalerite: ty, error: attribute 'nixos' in selection path 'nixos.haskellPackages.ghcid' not found - copy & paste frm the https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html#ghcid
<sphalerite>
robstrr: replace nixos with nixpkgs
<robstrr>
sphalerite: makes sense ...
<sphalerite>
the command is for nixos
<robstrr>
sphalerite: thank you
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[nixpkgs] @ebzzry opened pull request #44016 → stumpish: init at 0.0.1 → https://git.io/fN8cm
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[nixpkgs] @xaverdh opened pull request #44017 → android-file-transfer: init at 3.4 → https://git.io/fN8c9
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<bkchr[m]>
Does anyone has a fix for the build problem of initrd?
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/fN8Ws
<lewo>
Is there an example or tutorial on how to create a nixpkgs repository to host private expressions (how to fetch nixpkgs, usage of overlays, where to put private libraries, which repository layout...)?
<Profpatsch>
pie__: Oh, ydou
<Profpatsch>
*you
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #43700 → treewide: more fixes to tests → https://git.io/fNGJd
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fN8lz
<robstrr>
Is there a known problem with nix-repl under osx ? When installing I receive api.c:22:10: fatal error: 'endian.h' file not found
<Mic92>
robstrr: do you mean `nix repl` or `nix-repl`?
<clever>
robstrr: it has been merged into nix 2.0
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<robstrr>
clever: whup, missed this
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<robstrr>
Mic92: thank you :+1
<moredhel[m]>
Hi all, I'm trying to include my overlays system-wide, but am really not sure how to do it. If I use the `nixpkgs.overlays` I can't access them in my user `nix repl`. I looked at https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Overlays#On_the_user_level to get it setup on the system level, but don't know where the top-level `options` variable is coming from...
<moredhel[m]>
So, my question is, how do I enable overlays in my `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix` which can then be used by my user (such a using home-manager)
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<sphalerite>
moredhel[m]: one way is to use `(import <nixpkgs/nixos> {}).pkgs` wherever you'd usually use `import <nixpkgs> {}`
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<lewo>
Mic92: yeah, nur-packages-template is kind of things I'm looking for. Thanks
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<Mic92>
lewo: we probably in future improve documentation how to bypass NUR for your own repositories. At the moment it is more optimized for NUR.
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #41970 → nixos/systemd: Allow building systemd without libmicrohttpd → https://git.io/vh61s
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fN842
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<moredhel[m]>
hmm, that does work (I had to relogin to setup the correct VARS). This is pretty annoying though as I am having to duplicate the NIX_PATH into my configuration (rather than extending it).
<moredhel[m]>
My follow-up question is how do I reference several overlays at once?
<Mic92>
moredhel[m]: you could symlink them to the said directory I think
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<moredhel[m]>
ah, okay. So no way to just throw in a bunch of disjoint paths :/
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fN8Bm
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fN8RJ
<sphalerite>
so my tinc has stopped working and is spamming `tincd[25085]: Can't write to Linux tun/tap device (tun mode) /dev/net/tun: Input/output error` on its log. Restarting it doesn't seem to help. How do I fix it?
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<joepie91>
sphalerite: OpenVZ or LXC/Docker container?
<moredhel[m]>
Thanks Linus
<moredhel[m]>
That is exactly what I needed!
<sphalerite>
joepie91: nope
<sphalerite>
joepie91: plain hardware
<sphalerite>
it was working previously as well
<moredhel[m]>
I think I have everything working now, except for the `nixos-rebuild build` now can't see my overlays.
<moredhel[m]>
everything else can... do I need to reboot, or is there a way to propogate the changes?
<joepie91>
sphalerite: recently upgraded stuff?
<joepie91>
sounds like your tun kernel driver is bork
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<sphalerite>
joepie91: any idea how to fix it?
<sphalerite>
I just tried removing and re-adding the kernel module
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<joepie91>
no idea :/
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<dmj`>
how do I get my nixpkgs hash from nix repl
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<dmj`>
cat /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixpkgs/.git-revision seems to work
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<Profpatsch>
Mic92: What make you say that. :)
<Mic92>
Profpatsch: s6-init and the urge to make split all packages.
<Profpatsch>
Mic92: Pfff, no, it’s actually just a desire to get rid of most bash scripts and systemd-unitfile shit.
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<bkchr[m]>
`Could not take device /dev/fb0 , cause: "No such device"` does someone has seen such a message?
<Profpatsch>
I’m dreaming of a daemon manager that can actually find out dependency graphs without wanting to be PID 1
<bkchr[m]>
The device exists for me..
<Profpatsch>
Mic92: Also, user services.
<Profpatsch>
Dem user services.
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<Mic92>
Profpatsch: you can start systemd also not as Pid1
<Mic92>
rkt makes use of this
<Profpatsch>
Mic92: You mean I can start systemd from a user dir. :)
<Profpatsch>
And can I disable dbus as well? :)
<Mic92>
Profpatsch: `systemd --user` was made for this
<Profpatsch>
It’s pretty shit.
<Mic92>
so is s6
<Mic92>
If a service fails it restarts it forever as fast as it can
<Profpatsch>
No, wait, it’s even worse than pretty shit.
<Profpatsch>
It’s plain shit. :)
<Mic92>
haters gonna hate
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<Mic92>
s6 is just replacing dbus with there own ipc bus
<Profpatsch>
It’s just too much pain to be feasible.
<Profpatsch>
Too much state and weird race-condition interactions, too much undiscoverable IPC over some dbus service, which breaks in the weirdest ways with no error messages and no way to debug.
<Profpatsch>
No way to do static analysis, since everything happens at runtime.
<Profpatsch>
No fucking documentation.
<Mic92>
everything has documentation in systemd
<Mic92>
every option and every public function
<Profpatsch>
I cite, from the dbus official frontpage: “Please note that the D-Bus spec is incomplete, especially in its description of the message bus daemon. The spec for the protocol itself is reasonably complete, though not always clear or precise. Your patches are welcome! In the meantime, you may need to supplement your reading of the spec with a reading of the reference implementation source code.”
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fN8gv
<sphalerite>
oh yeah but you might need to do sudo -i then run the nix-channel commands
<sphalerite>
because of OSX sudo weirdness
<dmj`>
sphalerite: woa, that worked
<dmj`>
sphalerite: sudo -i changed the hash
<dmj`>
sphalerite: that is some buggy shit
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<sphalerite>
yep. OSX's sudo doesn't update the environment properly, so sudo nix-channel still operates on the calling user's channels
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<rschmukler>
Hey all. I did something stupid (rm -rf ~/.nix-defexpr/channels/*) and now when I re-add the channel, nix-channel --update doesn't do anything (ie. ~/.nix-defexpr/channels/ remains empty)
<rschmukler>
Similarly, `nix-env -i somepkg` returns "no matching derivations"
<rschmukler>
Any help on how to get nix pack on track?
<dcol>
I'm getting a strange error trying to do a rebuild.. "output '/nix/store/hdx90hiz9fi1pgb56jdm2kfyyr8xpaxf-extra-utils' is not allowed to refer to the following paths:
<dcol>
/nix/store/2b6pmzqay3ipsj1i4ppg3g0jwa9rylbr-libidn2-2.0.5", anyone know what this is about?
<sphalerite>
I think
<sphalerite>
dcol: master is broken. Which channel are you on?
<rschmukler>
sphalerite: the link is in place, `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/$USER/channels` is empty
<dcol>
sphalerite: I have my own nixpkgs, but its mostly unstable with some edits to the emacs and qt packages.
<sphalerite>
rschmukler: are you on nixos?
<rschmukler>
MacOS
<sphalerite>
dcol: nixpkgs-unstable?
<sphalerite>
dcol: for nixos you shouldn't use a newer channel than nixos-unstable-small
<sphalerite>
nixpkgs-unstable may break your system
<dcol>
sphalerite: nixos-unstable. yeah, I know that. that's fine. just wondering if anyone knows what the error message is referring to so I can investigate :)
<sphalerite>
dcol: weird, I don't think the channel should have advanced to that
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<sphalerite>
in any case, people have been mentioning it all day. I don't know the details
<dcol>
aha, that's good enough for me. thanks for the info
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<d1rewolf_>
guys, I have a machine on which I need to adjust DPI. is the preferred way of doing this ~/.Xresources or something else
<d1rewolf_>
?
<infinisil>
d1rewolf_: services.xserver.dpi
<d1rewolf_>
infinisil: ok, thanks. i'll look at that. how does one inspect services from the nix repl?
<infinisil>
inspect? you want to see config values?
<d1rewolf_>
infinisil: right. like what it's set to now
<infinisil>
That would be `nixos = import <nixpkgs/nixos> {}`, then `nixos.config.services.xserver.dpi`
<d1rewolf_>
I know I can :l <nixpkgs> to see packages
<d1rewolf_>
interesting. dpi is null. so there's no default?
<infinisil>
I guess it's what it detects
<infinisil>
X probably has a way to do that
<RetardedOnion>
it does
<infinisil>
,locate bin xdpyinfo
<RetardedOnion>
or its something else
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: xlibs.xdpyinfo
<d1rewolf_>
infinisil: cool, thanks very much. does part of the manual cover the using the repl this way?
<infinisil>
d1rewolf_: ^^ run this binary to find out what the current value is
<infinisil>
(xdpyinfo)
<tilpner>
d1rewolf_ - Also try nixos-option services.xserver.dpi
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<d1rewolf_>
tilpner: infinisil thanks guys
<jD91mZM2>
`nixos-config <thing>` is useful
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<sphalerite>
d1rewolf_: nixos-option services.xserver.dpi is a bit more informative
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<neonfuz>
Working on a new package for nixpkgs, and it needs its dependencies in the path so I'm using makeWrapper and makeBinPath to make the dependencies available
<neonfuz>
my question is, where should I put the original script?
<{^_^}>
#43866 (by neonfuz, open): yaxg: init at 2018-07-20
<d1rewolf_>
hmmm...I have a situation where all my i3 fonts look fine, but fonts, say, in a web browser and in non-i3 window titles (chromium tabs) are way too big. What's the appropriate way to adjust this? Is it to increase DPI via Xresources?
<d1rewolf_>
sphalerite: that is. .thanks!
<neonfuz>
currently it puts the original script in lib/yaxg/yaxg, though I was thinking maybe share/yaxg/yaxg would be better, or it's own package called yaxg-unwrapped?
<sphalerite>
d1rewolf_: you can also see and search all options in `man configuration.nix` (though not their current values)
<d1rewolf_>
sphalerite: that's it.. I keep forgetting that man page
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<infinisil>
neonfuz: Use wrapProgram instead of makeWrapper, invoke it on a single argument, the binary you want to wrap in $out/bin. wrapProgram then moves the original to $out/bin/.foo-wrapped, and puts the wrapper in $out/bin/foo
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<neonfuz>
oh cool, thanks
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<jcumming>
jack[m]1: matrix bridge test?
* jcumming
is in Delft.
<RetardedOnion>
can someone give me a quick and simple example for a buildEnv or a .nixpkgs/config.nix containing one?
<adelbertc>
with `dockerTools.buildImage` is it possible to create writeable directories (e.g. `/opt`) without resorting to `mkdir` in `runAsRoot` which takes ages since it needs to spin up a VM
<infinisil>
RetardedOnion: And using an overlay, put this into ~/.config/nixpkgs/overlays/mystuff.nix: self: super: { myEnv = super.buildEnv { name = "myenv"; paths = with self; [ hello ]; }; }
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<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: You can find mine here (It's dated because I still use overrides instead of overlays thought : ) https://github.com/toonn/nix-config
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<infinisil>
Oh and I meant RetardedOnion as well above, not etrepum
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<cocreature>
adelbertc: hm, are they not writable if you create them in extraCommands?
<RetardedOnion>
https://paste.debian.net/1034895/ if you would have a look. nix-env -u && nix-env -i ayy i get error: selector 'ayy' matches no derivations. why am i so incompetent?
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<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: The attribute name has an Env suffix. So you want -iA nixpkgs.ayyEnv.
<Guest24975>
ls -la
<RetardedOnion>
__monty__: error: attribute 'ayy' in selection path 'ayy' not found
<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: That's actually not true, *I* give them the suffix. -iA ayy should work.
<coconnor>
morning all
<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: My config is in .config/nixpkgs though.
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<coconnor>
I've attempted to wrap the augur application. However, it's crashing with "trace/breakpoint". Never seen that failure before
<RetardedOnion>
__monty__: error: attribute 'ayy' in selection path 'ayy' not found. stil.
<tfc[m]>
clever: remember my question about adding `ghcid` only when running nix-shell? i finally found a rather simple solution that does not lead to everything being recompiled. it looks very straight forward, and maybe i was a bit clumsy expressing my use case. https://github.com/tfc/stack2nix-with-ghcid
<Guest24975>
Friends I'm in need of a source code for a monster botnet. Someone could help me. I need to develop a new bot. Who can help me will receive the new updates along with the code.
<__monty__>
RetardedOnion: Not sure why it's not picked up. I thought there was an env var to set but that's for nix.conf
<{^_^}>
#2079 (by aszlig, open): nixos-assimilate - Turn currently running system into NixOS
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<d1rewolf_>
anyone done any experimenting with throwaway virtualbox vms with nix? it'd be cool to be able to, say, quickly take my configuration.nix and run it in a new virtualbox vm seamlessly.
<coconnor>
d1rewolf_: The nixos tests are exactly: spin up a temp vm with a configuration.
<coconnor>
nixos-rebuild also has a build-vm-with-bootloader option
<goibhniu>
d1rewolf_ build-vm uses qemu for that
<coconnor>
and build-vm
<d1rewolf_>
coconnor, do you get a gui with that?
<coconnor>
The nixos tests will initialize a remote desktop. As that's appropriate for testing.
<coconnor>
to get a GUI
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<coconnor>
there is an option tho I'm unfamiliar.
<d1rewolf_>
coconnor, ok, i'll take a look at that. thanks!
<adelbertc>
cocreature: aha i think my issue is i was trying to create directories under `/` directly
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @trizinix opened pull request #44022 → revelation: init at 0.4.14 → https://git.io/fN8Mi
<cocreature>
adelbertc: yeah that doesn’t work but luckily you don’t need to. you are already in the directory that will be / so just "mkdir opt" will create a directory that will end up at /opt
<adelbertc>
yes!
<adelbertc>
🙏🙏🙏
<ixxie>
Any Nixers interested in federated systems?
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<ajs124>
ixxie, in general, yes. what specifically are you thinking about?
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<ixxie>
ajs124: builting a decentralized user management module for NixOS that can hook into other modules
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<ixxie>
ajs124: the idea would be to make it easy to rig up a NixOS config for a federated server
<ixxie>
with any modules we have available of course
<infinisil>
ixxie: Not sure what you mean by that, can you be more concrete?
<ajs124>
sounds like a usecase for LDAP?
<ixxie>
well I am not exactly sure, I have been trying to grasp different authentication systems and see which one is most suitable
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<ixxie>
but I am thinking of the sort of decentralized authentication and autherization management the OpenID or OAuth offer
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<bkchr[m]>
Anyone online that knows something about logind and how it sets permissions for video devices?
<lutzmor>
evening i try to install NixOS currently but i get everytime a failure final link failed: No space left on device. But when i check df -h the only volume which has 100% is /nix/.ro-store anyone an idea.
<ixxie>
so having sophisticated NixOS modules for these sorts of systems could potentially make it easy for people to federate servers running all sorts of modules available in NixOS under a single user / group namespace
<ixxie>
I know its very vague, its a work in progress
<ixxie>
I am trying to articulate how this works and my knowledge of these systems in limited, so apologies for this
<samueldr>
lutzmor: you're probably installing to the ramdisk isntead of the intended device
<samueldr>
using `mount` is the device you intended to install to mounted at /mnt ?
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<lutzmor>
samueldr: yes /dev/sda3 is mounted to /mnt
<samueldr>
lutzmor: can you pastebin: 1. the list of partitions 2. the output of `mount` 3. the command you used for nixos-install (if you didn't simply use "nixos-install") ?
<samueldr>
lutzmor: from the minimal iso, this pastebin is probably the easier to use: http://ix.io/
<tilpner>
d1rewolf_ - I have tried to imitate it, partly
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<d1rewolf_>
tilpner, what problems did you run into? I really just want to install the same extensions across machines, and also perhaps some extension settings
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<kalbasit>
how to override the `ghc` version when building a haskell package? context: haskellPackages.greenclip does not build with ghc843 and I need to compile it with ghc802 or ghc822 whichever works
<tilpner>
d1rewolf_ - It's been a while, I don't remember the exact errors. I didn't get it working like I wanted to, but I could have tried longer
<ajs124>
I'm trying to override an ExecStart in nfs-server.service. so what I did was systemd.services.nfs-server.serviceConfig.ExecStart = pkgs.lib.mkForce "", but now the original ExecStart and mine get executed, because the unit is Type=oneshot. Any idea how to fix this, so only mine gets executed?
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<Mic92>
ajs124: make it a list: systemd.services.nfs-server.serviceConfig.ExecStart = ["" "/nix/store/*-actual-command"]. systemd will see the empty string, so reset everything that has been set before.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @bfortz opened pull request #44029 → cplex: init at 12.8 → https://git.io/fN8b9
<infandum>
I'm trying to mix unstable packages with stable by doing the fetchTarball then doing unstable = import unstableTarball etc. in packageOverrides. However, unstable.emacs is still installing emacs 25 rather than 26. Can I check somehow to see what the unstable.emacs is fetching?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed commit from @kalbasit to release-18.03 « neovim: fix the xsel path in the clipboard runtime provider »: https://git.io/fN8NW
<Denommus>
Mic92: I don't know, but isn't SSLv3 deprecated?
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<Mic92>
Denommus: sslv2 is
<Mic92>
openssl still does sslv3 afaik.
<maurer>
sslv3 is still considered bad form
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<maurer>
Denommus: What were you doing when it happened? nixops itself doesn't set any of the ssl parameters to the best of my knowledge, it uses various python libraries which implement programmatic cloud APIs
<maurer>
It is likely that one of those is the place to file the bug
<maurer>
Mic92: The tl;dr is that you cannot implement ssl3 securely
<Lisanna>
hey, I accidentally garbage-collected my binary cache. Now I'm getting "hash mismatch importing path" errors because the binary cache rebuilt it and it wasn't deterministic.
<infandum>
Mic92: I get 26.1 as well, so it's a problem with my configuration. When I ran your command it actually fetched the tarball, when I do sudo nixos-rebuild switch it does not have the same output.
<maurer>
Denommus: That does not necessarily imply that they were going to use ssl3, only that that libcloud is built against openssl with ssl3 support
<Denommus>
maurer: hm. Can I override it somehow?
<maurer>
Denommus: It should work if you pass your neutered openssl library to the build process for libcloud somehow
<coconnor>
likely doable with package overrides
<Mic92>
infandum: you are having emacs in your systemPackages list
<Mic92>
emacs without the `unstable` source
<coconnor>
I'm not familiar with libcloud, but have defnitely done simlar for other libs
<borodust>
mhm, libGL.so seems to be missing from /lib/opengl-drivers/lib/ in nixos unstable as of late. where can i find link to it now (apart from nix/store)?
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<Mic92>
borodust: are you mixing different channels? We moved libGL.so to the nix store
<borodust>
Mic92: i think i dont' :) i'm using unstable channel.
<coconnor>
Denommus: I'm unfamiliar with python libraries. If similar to haskell library structure then it should be doable.
<borodust>
Mic92: hmm, what is the proper way to load it dynamically in nixos these days?
<Mic92>
coconnor: it can be tricky due its dynamic nature, you usually need good test coverage, which nixops does not have.
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* borodust
is quite new to nixos, so he brings all the apologies possible
<Mic92>
borodust: /run/opengl-drivers/lib is usually setup by modules correctly and then the LD_LIBRARY_PATH points to it
<Mic92>
on non-nixos systems there is also the nixGL project
<infinisil>
,nixGL
<infandum>
Mic92: Do you recommend mixing unstable with stable or just using unstable channel for all of configuration.nix?
<{^_^}>
nixGL is a bunch of wrappers for getting OpenGL programs to work for your graphics card, https://github.com/guibou/nixGL
<Mic92>
infandum: not for packages depending on qt or OpenGL. Most of the other stuff should be fine. Personally I would probably would use a nixpkgs git checkout and backport the stuff I need using git-cherry pick
<infandum>
I see
<Denommus>
no, wait, it's updated. Wth
<infandum>
Thank you for your help!
<maurer>
Denommus: Note: That may still not fix it - libcloud depends on the python standard library module "ssl"
<maurer>
which is in turn what is loading the sslv3 symbols
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<borodust>
Mic92: opengl works for me (glxinfo correctly reports stuff and ldd for it points to libgl in nix/store), but there's no link to libGL.so in /run/opengl-drivers/lib
<borodust>
Mic92: i saw PR that removed it from there
<Mic92>
maurer: is not to disable sslv3 in the openssl version used for nixops (also this is a bit of an overshoot)
<borodust>
Mic92: so the question is more like, if it is still possible to find libGL.so symlink somewhere
<borodust>
this is super concerning matter for Common Lisp development, because everything is hightly dynamic there
<maurer>
Mic92: I feel like I missed some ocntext there, but in any case, https://bugs.python.org/issue22935 looks like what you need to do is build python against an openssl which has v3 disabled
<borodust>
this is the way a lot of common lisp software handles loading foreign (shared) libraries
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<borodust>
Mic92: looking
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<Fare>
hi, borodust
<borodust>
Fare: did you load CL libs with foreign dependencies under nixos? mb cl-opengl specifically?
<borodust>
but actually it probably worked due to libGL.so being present in /run/opengl-drivers/lib/ in stable channel :sigh:
<Denommus>
how do I know if ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix is working?
<infinisil>
Oh god, well this is great
<infinisil>
In current unstable there is a haskell package "manifolds" which depends on "spatial-rotations" which depends on "manifolds"...
<infinisil>
That's some infinite recursion for ya!
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<borodust>
Mic92: hmm, if i understood correctly, makeWrapper would make a executable for me with additional environment stuff, but how would it know where to search for libgl? LD_LIBRARY_PATH contains /run/opengl-drivers/lib/ but there's no libgl there anymore
* borodust
uses nixos-unstable
<Mic92>
borodust: extend LD_LIBRARY_PATH by using wrapProgram --prepend : ${libGL}/lib ...
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<borodust>
ah, i think i'm starting to grasp the idea
<Mic92>
borodust: it is prefix rather then prepend
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<infinisil>
,locate libGL.so
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: libglvnd, primusLib, libGLU_combined
<infinisil>
Why the hell does nix-index not show libGL?!
<iqubic>
How hard is it to get GHCJS running on NixOS>
<infinisil>
,locate libGL.so.1.0.0
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: libglvnd, libGLU_combined
<infinisil>
And mesa_drivers for that matter
<infinisil>
Both containing libGL.so
<borodust>
infinisil: yup, but i would like to load it dynamically :) thanks anyway
<borodust>
i'm trying to wrap my head around wrapProgram
<infinisil>
(you probably didn't mean me)
<borodust>
it still doesn't feel like i'm going into right direction
<tertle||eltret>
is there a list of all non free packages?
<tertle||eltret>
or better yet, all packages with non free included/
<borodust>
infinisil: err, i thought you were answering libgl qn i shot earlier, sorry
<samueldr>
I'm not updating daily the listing, but uh, often enough; so sometimes version numbers may drift off
<samueldr>
(I also had reports of slow load time for the data)
<tertle||eltret>
okay, cool, thank you
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed 3 commits to python-unstable: https://git.io/fN4fn
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<borodust>
Mic92: lets say i have a package/app (`sbcl` to be precise) and i want it to know where to find certain libraries to load them dynamically via dlopen (libgl being one of them) inside it (from within a process, resolving paths to libraries at runtime), where should i RTFM to understand what should i do
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<samueldr>
and refresh me, it's qt not being able to find the platform plugin "xcb", right?
<tenten8401>
yup
<samueldr>
tenten8401: can you try the alternative fix?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @ktf opened pull request #44034 → doing: init at 1.0.10pre → https://git.io/fN4Jz
<tenten8401>
This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "". Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
<tenten8401>
sure
<samueldr>
comment out the shellhook, and uncomment the line with QT_PLUGIN_PATH
<LnL>
infinisil: hmm, for some orther packages it seems to resolve that correctly, eg. wineStaging points to the store path of libGLU_combined
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<tenten8401>
samueldr: same error with the QT_PLUGIN_PATH uncommented
<samueldr>
weird though, the "PATH=" fix should work, unless I missed something with unstable :/
<infinisil>
LnL: Oh actually I know it resolved libGL correctly in an earlier version
<samueldr>
and uh, that should definitely work, get into the nix-shell (without run) and tell me the value of $QT_PLUGIN_PATH please, thanks
<borodust>
Mic92: thanks! I'll check it out
<infinisil>
LnL: I had it in my cache before I updated it
<samueldr>
(I'll try realising the path and understand the issue better)
<{^_^}>
bennofs/nix-index#23 (by Infinisil, open): Relative symlinks don't work
<samueldr>
(I think I may have a global fix for QT and plugins, writing it up is a bit hard, but either tonight [for me] or tomorrow a PR will be made with an attempt)
<samueldr>
thanks tenten8401
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<samueldr>
ah, tenten8401 the contents of the file `kdenlive.strace` :)
<tenten8401>
my bad, lol
<infinisil>
LnL: Am going to bed now though, thanks for the help with this :)
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<samueldr>
tenten8401: only when it fails to load xcb platform plugins though
<tenten8401>
eek, 49.3 MB
<samueldr>
so uh, forget about that one I think
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<tenten8401>
should I just grep it for xcb and upload?
<samueldr>
unless... is it *kdenlive* that fails, or when you render?
<tenten8401>
kdenlive isn't failing when I render, it's the backend I think
<tenten8401>
one sec
<samueldr>
ah! I thought kdenlive directly failed to start!
<tenten8401>
nope
<tenten8401>
it's the rendering that fails to start
<tenten8401>
yeah, guess I was more of just expressing my sadness than asking what was wrong since I've been waiting on a package to land, but I mean it is called unstable for a reason
<tenten8401>
I'm greatful it does get tested in advance (at least to an extent) before getting sent out though
<samueldr>
:/ on 18.03 I cannot start kdenlive from unstable-18.09pre146471.d7d31fea7e7 (some of my previous tests may have been wrong)
<tenten8401>
speaking of the master branch, would it be possible to get #42871 merged in sometime soon? I tested it out on a server of mine running 18.03 and it seems to work flawlessly.
<tenten8401>
Anyone know if there's a riot-web actual desktop client available in NixOS?
<tenten8401>
from the looks of it, it just looks like it's made for webserver use
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[nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #44037 → networkmanager: fix VPN activation through nm-applet → https://git.io/fN4Iw
<tenten8401>
which I mean, is fine and all
<tenten8401>
but I like my desktop clients
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[nixpkgs] @basvandijk pushed to master « doctest-discover: move override out of configuration-nix.nix »: https://git.io/fN4L1
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<IsaacA[m]>
samueldr: Just so you're aware, it's tenten8401 here, I think I might try using the Matrix -> IRC bridge from now on, and maybe use the IsaacA username instead.