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<hakujin> how do database tests work inside the sandbox? (with hydra)
<infinisil> qemu
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<infinisil> Check how the tests are defined in <nixpkgs/nixos/tests>
<hakujin> will read. thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #43088 → Get rid of 2 unneeded packages → https://git.io/fbjmE
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<gchristensen> yay obadz!
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<tnks> nix repl seems to render "\n" in a way that I'm not sure if it's a newline or not.
<tnks> but I'm pretty sure it is.
<tnks> okay, figured out a way to validate that with builtins.toFile.
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<tenten8401> Is anyone else having an issue with launching Spectacle in KDE with the printscr button?
<tenten8401> Seems all the keyboard shortcuts work but that one
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<tenten8401> Rebooted my computer, still nothing on the Spectacle issue.
<tenten8401> Seems to work just fine on non-NixOS based distros
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<tenten8401> I have no clue what to even try at this point, if anyone has any suggestions it'd be appreciated
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<fresheyeball> ok
<fresheyeball> so I got this mostly figured out
<fresheyeball> but I need to make a pid file for my systemd service
<fresheyeball> I tried a few things, but it keeps making an empty file
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<fresheyeball> echo $MAINPID > /var/thang/thang.pid
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #43092 → treewide: http -> https → https://git.io/fbj8x
<bpye> Is there any reason networking.nat can only have a single instance? It would be nice to have different containers under different NAT rules...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42870 → pscircle: init at v1.0.0 → https://git.io/fMbC5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42868 → bundler: 1.16.1 -> 1.16.2 → https://git.io/fMcnU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42851 → vmTools: update Debian minor version to 8.11 → https://git.io/foAp2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42926 → flow: 0.72.0 -> 0.75.0 → https://git.io/f7rlt
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<gchristensen> it looks like the Quagga module is uniquely written in such a way as to break docs generation, curiously enough
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<joepie91> red team module design
<joepie91> :)
<gchristensen> haha
<gchristensen> it is really perfectly engineered to have no options available at docs time
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<joepie91> (I just realized that that's probably a really obscure joke that will make no sense to most people here...)
<gchristensen> :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42724 → libinput: add button to scrollMethod → https://git.io/f4Fgw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42687 → nginx: Flag to build with debugging and parallel builds → https://git.io/f4dFI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc opened pull request #43094 → quagga module: Use a deep merge via imports instead of the shallow merge → https://git.io/fbjB3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #42544 → MusE: add new package at version 3.0.2 → https://git.io/f49JA
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<teto1> on master, I would like to add kernel config options similar to `{ KERNEL_OPTION = whenAtLeast "4.2" no; }` How would you keep the condition ("whenAtLeast") while switching the value to yes (programmatically) ? so that it ends up being `{ KERNEL_OPTION = whenAtLeast "4.2" yes };` ?
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<Myrl-saki> Is there an option similar to ~environment.variables~ that will also get applied on all systemd units?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #43036 → elisa: 0.1.80 -> 0.2.0 → https://git.io/fbpnZ
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<rotaerk> hmm. version A of my project nix-builds fine, and cabal builds within nix-shell fine, and the results of both builds run fine
<rotaerk> version B of my project is version A but with a newer version of nixpkgs referenced. in version B, it nix-builds, and the result runs fine, but when I cabal build within nix-shell, the result doesn't run fine
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<rotaerk> from the perspective of the two nix-shell contexts, would the only differences be ... 1) the environment, and 2) the stdenv setup.sh?
<rotaerk> just trying to figure out a strategy for diagnosing the issue with version B
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #43095 → libndctl: fix build w/musl using patch from upstream → https://git.io/fbj0G
<rotaerk> cabal is the same version in both cases, but the resulting binary for version B is wrong
<rotaerk> trying to identify what all could affect that
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<ryantm> ccccccbljrvrterklukrenhukibjlcfcuitugttthtuv
<ryantm> crap.
<ryantm> sorry :)
<rotaerk> oo, your password
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<ryantm> Nope, thankfully not.
<dtz> encoded message from Agent Meow!
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<brodavi> Hi good people of #nixos! I have had the nixos/nixpkgs unstable channels for a while now, but since 18.03 was just released, I was considering moving off unstable. Will it be as straightforward as removing my unstable channels, and adding 18.03? Any gotchas I should be aware of? Thanks! :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #43095 → libndctl: fix build w/musl using patch from upstream → https://git.io/fbj0G
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<ryantm> brodavi: Have you rebuilt your NixOS past when 18.03 was released?
<ryantm> brodavi: I wouldn't expect too much trouble though; you can always rollback if something is wrong
<colemickens> I see this in some of the Go packages, what does it do?
<colemickens> find $out -type f -exec remove-references-to -t ${go} '{}' +
<brodavi> ryantm: I don't think I have, no. Yes, I love the peace of mind of rollback :)
<ryantm> brodavi: If you haven't rebuilt it, I would look at the 18.03 changelog in the NixOS manual to see if there are any surprises for you.
<brodavi> ryantm: thanks I'll take a look at the release notes.... if I have rebuilt since 18.03 does that complicate things?
<ryantm> brodavi: You might notice some package version downgrades because 18.03 is not as up to date as unstable. I don't think there's any particular complication though.
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<brodavi> ryantm: thanks for the info! I'll give it a shot :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jbedo opened pull request #43096 → mosdepth: init 0.2.3 → https://git.io/fbjE4
<ryantm> brodavi: Oh yeah, don't forget about the difference between editign your user and channels and root's channels!
<ryantm> your user's channels and root's channels*
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #43097 → pipewire (nixos): add socket activation support → https://git.io/fbjEK
<rotaerk> blargh, stumped by this
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<ryantm> rotaerk: Do version A and version B run in the same user environment? Do they have any non-version-controlled files in their directories? What version of Cabal is used in each shell?
<ryantm> rotaerk: Also, in version B does cabal build compile but then have a runtime problem?
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<rotaerk> same user environment. whether or not the build output works is a function of which version's nix-shell it was cabal-built in, independent of which shell I *run* it from
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<rotaerk> no differences in non-version-controlled files. the version of cabal is the same in both nix-shells, at least the reported version number is.
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<rotaerk> and it builds fine in both nix shells. it's a runtime problem
<rotaerk> particularly: dist/build/vulkanTest/vulkanTest: symbol lookup error: /nix/store/11asls7i6l1qz9cm08is75xhgdc1b212-libGL-1.0.0/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: __GLXGL_CORE_FUNCTIONS
<rotaerk> if I use strace, I find that in both nix-build builds, as well as the version A nix-shell-cabal build, it's actually using the libGL.so.1 from /run/opengl-driver/lib
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<rotaerk> but with just the version B nix-shell-cabal build, when it's run, it doesn't even search that path... it ends up searching some nix-store paths, and lands on the one in /nix/store/11asls7i6l1qz9cm08is75xhgdc1b212-libGL-1.0.0/lib
<rotaerk> and I have no idea how to start figuring out why that is
<rotaerk> not even sure which specific library is trying to open libGL.so.1
<rotaerk> so yeah ... that's my dilemma, ryantm
<rotaerk> I could try temporarily eliminating some dependencies to try to narrow down which one is pulling in libGL
<jackdk> you could hack up a script using readelf -d and ldd to build a deptree of shared libs? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15064685/does-ldd-also-show-dependencies-of-dependencies
<rotaerk> hmm does that just tell me, of the libraries I use, which ones depend on libGL?
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<rotaerk> I believe I know a couple do, based on the nixpkgs derivations
<rotaerk> just not sure which specifically is triggering *this* load
<jackdk> readelf will tell you which libs your binary wants directly, ldd will tell you the transitive closure of deps
<rotaerk> hmm I see
<ryantm> rotaerk: Another option would be to try to git bisect nixpkgs between the two versions you have and see when the problem is introduced.
<rotaerk> ah, good idea
<rotaerk> thanks, I'll try these things
<jackdk> ooh yeah good idea. I'd do that first, and then if it's not obvious what changed you can poke around the haunted binary
<ryantm> rotaerk: Another idea is to post on discourse.nixos.org because probably more people will look at your issue.
<rotaerk> hah, I wasn't even aware of discourse
<ryantm> rotaerk: It's pretty new but we are trying to replace the mailing list with it.
<rotaerk> huh. someone else saw the same error as me, but with wine: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/libgl-problem-with-wine/451/2
<rotaerk> though their solution doesn't seem relevant
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<rotaerk> k cool; I've got some stuff to work with now
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @qoelet opened pull request #43100 → gnu-pw-mgr: init 2.3.2 → https://git.io/fbja6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #43101 → xbacklight: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 → https://git.io/fbja1
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<rotaerk> ryantm, actually, someone gave me another idea: LD_DEBUG
<rotaerk> and LD_DEBUG=libs actually gave me some information I didn't have before, which may be a good clue
<rotaerk> before my nixpkgs upgrade, it's looking for libGL.so.1 in the paths specified by LD_LIBRARY_PATH ... which includes /run/opengl-driver/lib (containing the correct version)
<rotaerk> after my upgrade, it looks for it in the paths specified by the RPATH linked into my program
<rotaerk> so now the question is, what change caused that RPATH to get set... should it be undone, or should something else change to work *with* it
<dtz> \o/ LD_DEBUG
<dtz> weeeeee shared libraries on linux
<rotaerk> lol
<dtz> not that they're better elsewhere, necessarily, but I can say with some confidence and experience that zomgwtfbbq everything about them on linux :D
<dtz> but I don't mean to make light of the actual problem you'r experiencing
<rotaerk> I'm just glad I finally have a hint, a direction
<rotaerk> I didn't know LD_DEBUG existed, and had never heard of RPATHs
<dtz> I feel like I'mu usually the guy who suggests LD_DEBUG and then rambles about rpath, runpath, dlopen, and trash fire algebras
<dtz> lol
<dtz> unfortunately, offhand I don't know of changes "recently" that'd cause the behavior you describe
<rotaerk> the weirdest thing is that if I build the *upgraded nixpkgs version of it* with nix-build, it's searching LD_LIBRARY_PATH
<rotaerk> it's only when I cabal build it from within the upgraded nix-shell ...
<dtz> well uhh at some point I taught libepoxy how to load things ... but think that made it into 18.03 so if you're having problems post-that I might be off the hook O:)
<rotaerk> lol
<dtz> (no promises, long night, but is your issue/problem written up somewhere?)
<rotaerk> not yet; and I'll probably go to bed soon
<rotaerk> thanks though
<rotaerk> I might ping you later, if you're still interested :P
* dtz sees that "page up" magically summons various descriptions and adventures regarding the problem
<rotaerk> haha
<rotaerk> yes, that's me verbally flailing around
<dtz> when it comes to these sorts of things I think everyone that's an "expert" learned by flailing around
<dtz> QWOP leading the QWOP
<rotaerk> haha
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<dtz> anyway 'night sir, hope tomorrow it makes more sense or maybe someone pushed a commit saving you the trouble of debugging your way to some part of Linux software ecosystem that scars all who stumble upon it
<dtz> ;)
<rotaerk> heh, thanks, and g'night
<dtz> if you think I'm being a bit too melodramatic... well, you're right but then also take a look at https://www.akkadia.org/drepper/dsohowto.pdf and behold
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<rotaerk> omg
* rotaerk actually bookmarks that...
<dtz> if that leaves you in a bad place I recommend "Linkers and Loaders"-- nice historical view and in a way kinda inspiring. Things weren't always terribad, and there were many good people with good ideas and intentions that came before....
<adisbladis[m]> Is there a way except for using the `plugin-files` setting to make nix load plugins?
<dtz> apologies if it was obvious, but be sure to check/appreciate the author of that "dso howto" and their role in things... ^_^
<dtz> adisbladis: what do you mean? like a command line option?
<adisbladis[m]> dtz: I want to do it from an expression
<dtz> hmm I don't think that's possible, but perhaps others have more useful answers
<adisbladis[m]> Yeah I don't think so either
<dtz> sounds like something that'd need recursive Nix--at least to avoid confusion re:evaluating an expression that wants to load a plugin that... does it change the expression already evaluated? etc. but maybe that's no big deal
<adisbladis[m]> That makes plugins only marginally useful imho
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<dtz> just convince Nix devs to merge your plugin into master and then "enabling the plugin" becomes "don't disable the plugin that's already compiled-in" :P
<adisbladis> dtz: :P
<dtz> adisbladis: yeah I'm not sure why they're useful, vs just compiling in your extensions, but dunno
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<adisbladis> dtz: Less rebuilding I suppose
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<dtz> :D
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<brodavi> ryantm: thanks! everything worked out just fine :)
<brodavi> I <3 nixos
<dtz> \o/
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<rotaerk> hmm dtz, is there a way to check whether DT_RPATH is used versus DT_RUNPATH
<rotaerk> I notice that RPATH is higher priority LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but RUNPATH is lower
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Moredread opened pull request #43102 → slic3r-prusa3d: 1.40.0 -> 1.40.1 → https://git.io/fbjwH
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<shreyansh_k> Hi guys, I'm evaluating NixOS for myself. How can I search packages available in NixOS?
<shreyansh_k> I don't have it installed as of now. I want to ensure before installing that my essential packages are available in Nix easily.
<shreyansh_k> PS: nevermind, I found it.
<rotaerk> never mind; readelf -d tells me that information. the working builds all have RUNPATH set, while the broken one has RPATH set. so somewhere along the line, --enable-new-dtags stopped being used somehow
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<rotaerk> ugh, so late; this time I mean it, I think
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<ghasshee> Hi, does anyone know how to display linux man-page of 'built-in shell' ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #43097 → pipewire (nixos): add socket activation support → https://git.io/fbjEK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fbj6J
<infinisil> ,locate man hello
<{^_^}> Found in packages: hello
<infinisil> ,locate ghasshee
<{^_^}> Couldn't find any packages
<infinisil> ,locate
<{^_^}> Use ,locate <filename> to find packages containing such a file. Powered by nix-index (local installation recommended).
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<ghasshee> what does ',' mean ?
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<ghasshee> ah, thanks @{^_^} @infinisil ! mlocate gives me the pathes.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fbjP8
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<teto1> I've just run a nixos-rebuild and this is the first time I see this error : error: creating symlink from '/nix/var/nix/profiles/system-190-link.tmp-31888-517598275' to '/nix/store/0pnw8nvxsdamd88nqh0knbrsxflh25c3-nixos-system-jedha-18.09.git.abdbf4dc582M': Permission denied
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #42768 → plasma5: 5.13.0 -> 5.13.2 → https://git.io/f4Na3
<tilpner> teto1 - As which user did you run that?
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<teto1> tilpner: ok kill me, I just spent hours debugging a silly problem amd my brain shut down
<teto1> sudo fixes it
<teto1> like inettools/ifconfig and net-tools/ifconfig have subtle differences that break a package I am working on
<manveru> sudo systemctl restart brain
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<jtojnar> flokli: does the nm-applet work with gnome-keyring added back in?
<jtojnar> flokli: I want to be sure it is not just broken by the cleanups
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<jtojnar> flokli: I do not understand how did the credentials end up in keyring if you are not running keyring service
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda opened pull request #43106 → seafile-client: 6.1.8 -> 6.2.1 → https://git.io/fbjMr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vdemeester opened pull request #43107 → gauge: 0.9.7 -> 1.0.0 → https://git.io/fbjDN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fbjSC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43090 → gocryptfs: 1.1.1 -> 1.5 → https://git.io/fbjck
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43101 → xbacklight: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 → https://git.io/fbja1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @dtzWill to master « xbacklight: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 (#43101) »: https://git.io/fbjS4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43103 → Mint: 0.0.4 -> 0.1.0 → https://git.io/fbjKR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @manveru to master « Mint: 0.0.4 -> 0.1.0 (#43103) »: https://git.io/fbjSM
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<fragamus> I still don’t see the packages I submitted hmetis and bliss
<fragamus> The nixpkgs build seems to be not working for days
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-18.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/477b53dad5d (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-18.03-small)
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<MarcWeber> I have a store path on a backup. Which is the easiest way to import it ?
<MarcWeber> nix-copy-closure and the like require running instance
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maggesi pushed 0 commits to fix-maintainer-name-z77z: https://git.io/fbjQa
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<flokli> jtojnar: sorry for the delay. I'm still out for lunch, will check in half an hour
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<srhb> fragamus: You mean master/unstable ? That's pretty normal.
<fragamus> yes
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43102 → slic3r-prusa3d: 1.40.0 -> 1.40.1 → https://git.io/fbjwH
<fragamus> is it sufficient to just add the unstable channel or do I need to remove any channel to ensure I pick up the packages from unstable
<srhb> fragamus: It is sufficient to just add it. They're usually prefixed by whatever name you gave the channel.
<srhb> fragamus: That is, nix-env -iA <channel-name>.package
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<srhb> fragamus: But like you said, unstable has not moved for four days. If your changes are newer than that, they're not in yet.
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<fragamus> ok cool i will hang in there until it's ready
<srhb> fragamus: In fact, I believe I merged the hmetis PR, and it's definitely not in unstable yet.
<srhb> fragamus: You can monitor the channel bump here: http://howoldis.herokuapp.com/
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<srhb> fragamus: The top boxes explain how it works. :)
<srhb> (It also shows that nixpkgs-unstable bumped just one day ago, so it should be present in that channel)
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<srhb> Well, unless the commit was very old at the time...
<srhb> Looks like it was.
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<cocreature> it makes me somewhat sad how often nixpkgs-unstable doesn’t update :/
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<manveru> seems like atm the issue is that hydra runs out of disk space
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<cocreature> that and the tarball job is running out of memory
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<manveru> yeah... that too :|
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<manveru> no clue what hardware we're using atm, but it could use some love :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43107 → gauge: 0.9.7 -> 1.0.0 → https://git.io/fbjDN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @vdemeester to master « gauge: 0.9.7 -> 1.0.0 (#43107) »: https://git.io/fbjdf
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<fragamus> srhb: nix-env -qa nixpkgs.hmetis <--- does not find it
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<waynr> it looks like this cpython PR commit has disappeared and is causing a python2.7 build to fail for me: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/6118/commits/8c6da2d7e7e719c40fb539b7f7cb7583cccc5527.patch
<{^_^}> #6118 (by jdemeyer, open): bpo-25750: fix refcounts in type_getattro()
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<waynr> is there a better way to pull in an upstream patch than to point to a commit in a github PR? that seems inherently unstable to me
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<niksnut> if it's a small patch, just copy it into nixpkgs
<niksnut> but yeah, nixpkgs should never reference pull requests
<waynr> it's a +13/-6 patch, so pulling it in to nixpkgs should be fine. although i guess one good thing about using a github PR commit is that eventually there would always be a forcing function that makes someone go back and update the unpatched source to point to a newer, immutable, commit in the target branch
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<waynr> oh wait, this PR is targeting master branch whichis probably not a 2.7.x release branch
<waynr> but it's also marked as needing to be backported
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<sagnik> Ello
<sagnik> Any KDE users here?
<sagnik> Have a look at this pls
<{^_^}> #43108 (by SagnikSRHUSE, open): KDE Issue with creating autostart
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @offlinehacker opened pull request #43111 → apache-kafka: add missing gnugrep gnused and cureutils deps → https://git.io/fbjbk
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<hyper_ch2> glad that I use a shell script that start all my apps that I want after I click it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43100 → gnu-pw-mgr: init 2.3.2 → https://git.io/fbja6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fbjNT
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<ckauhaus> wouldn't it be better to route msgs about merged PRs and such to #nixos-dev?
<ckauhaus> I wonder that they end up here
<flokli> jtojnar: services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3.enable is set to true, this means services.gnome3.gnome-keyring.enable = true. updated the PR
<sagnik> Any idea why this happens?
<{^_^}> #43108 (by SagnikSRHUSE, open): KDE Issue with creating autostart
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fbjN2
<gchristensen> ckauhaus: #nixos-dev is intended to be lower volume
<srhb> ckauhaus: nixos-dev is intended to be relatively low-traffic and centered around major changes, not "basic dev" -- which goes here.
<srhb> meh, too slow...
<ckauhaus> ic
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<gchristensen> but I still wonder about disabling PR notifications overall
<gchristensen> or at least the "push" notification for each PR
<ckauhaus> that would make sense
<srhb> I think the push notifications could probably stand to be disabled, but I do like that there's a bit of dev going on in the "main" channel because it also reflects the easy-to-contribute nature of the Nix ecosystem, and pushes people to try their hand at it.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #43021 → nix: use boehmgc with enableLargeConfig = true → https://git.io/fbxjJ
<gchristensen> srhb: nice, yeah!
<srhb> Something quite unique to us, I think.
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<sagnik> Anyone using teamviewer, here?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @waynr opened pull request #43112 → Vendor python type_getattro patch. → https://git.io/fbjAk
<sagnik> :\
<clever> sagnik: lately, ive only gotten it to work by running windows 10 inside virtualbox, lol
<gchristensen> doesn't teamviewer deploy with Nix? :thinking:
<clever> gchristensen: they also delete the old binaries, disable them from connecting to the servers, and make changes that break the nix package with every update
<manveru> sagnik: i'd recommend zoom-us if you have the option...
<clever> gchristensen: the last time i tried to use it on nixos, the buttons just had a 0x0 size
<gchristensen> well they might use nixos and still be rude packagers :P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43069 → termtosvg: init at 0.3.0 → https://git.io/fbh3b
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @Ma27 to master « termtosvg: init at 0.3.0 (#43069) »: https://git.io/fbjAp
<manveru> ma27: nice :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @demyanrogozhin opened pull request #43114 → particl-core: 0.16.0.5 -> 0.16.1.0 → https://git.io/fbjxt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43111 → apache-kafka: add missing gnugrep gnused and cureutils deps → https://git.io/fbjbk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @offlinehacker to master « apache-kafka: add missing gnugrep gnused and coreutils deps (#43111) »: https://git.io/fbjxN
<sagnik> clever: Welp :\
<sagnik> Alright, I think I fixed the anydesk package
<sagnik> Any way to test?
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<kitemikaze_> Hello guys, is there a way/tools I can use to easily transform YAML files in Nix language ?
<sphalerite> puffnfresh: just saw your question about the ALSA UCM stuff
<sphalerite> yes, replaceRuntimeDependencies did work. I can dig out the config later if you're interested. It's really not nice though…
<sphalerite> would be much nicer to patch alsaLib to look in /etc/alsa/ucm or something like that
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<clever> kitemikaze_: using import-from-derivation, you should be able to call yaml2json
<clever> haskellPackages.yaml.out 26,688 x /nix/store/q99hymykq8858kg37f56gibx5cp9gjj6-yaml-0.8.22/bin/yaml2json
<clever> kitemikaze_: then you can just builtins.readFile + fromJSON
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<infinisil> ,locate bin yaml2json
<{^_^}> Found in packages: remarshal, yaml2json.bin
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<clever> infinisil: yaml2json is go, but there was a matching binary in haskell at one point
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<infinisil> clever: why not anymore?
<clever> infinisil: hadnt looked into why it vanished
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<infinisil> Yeah i also have the haskell one in my local cache which I haven't updated ever
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<sagnik> Uh
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<LnL> heh
<sagnik> How do you tag someone here? :P
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<sagnik> LnL: test
<gchristensen> just say there name, sagnik
<sagnik> Worked?
<sagnik> :|
<sagnik> Ah
<LnL> hydra-job-bisect is probably the most interesting
<gchristensen> I have a bad habit of never making aliases, and then losing various important commands when my history goes back too far
<sagnik> gchristensen, do you face this https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/43108
<{^_^}> #43108 (by SagnikSRHUSE, open): KDE Issue with creating autostart
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<gchristensen> I don't use kde, sorry sagnik
<LnL> if something is broken on master it finds the last known good revision form hydra an starts a bisect with nix-build
<sagnik> Oh
<sagnik> What do you use btw?
<gchristensen> just i3
<kitemikaze_> clever: Thanks, I know about the readFromJSON. but i'm more looking for somethings to transform kubernetes yaml files and use it, as it is describe in the kubernetes.addons options: http://bit.ly/2u9hora
<sagnik> Oh fun
<sagnik> How is just i3? :|
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<gchristensen> very simple :)
<sagnik> Oh :P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch merged pull request #42781 → dockerTools.buildImage: add option to use nix output hash as tag → https://git.io/f4Nhg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch pushed commit from @lo1tuma to master « dockerTools.buildImage: add option to use nix output hash as tag »: https://git.io/fNefs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @talyz opened pull request #43115 → linux: Temporary fix for issue #42755 → https://git.io/fNefV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @offlinehacker opened pull request #43116 → telepresence: 0.67 -> 0.85 → https://git.io/fNeJ5
<countoren> hi everybody, im trying to build environment build out of others environments(the core derivation) this is my config.nix:https://github.com/countoren/nixpkgs/blob/master/config.nix and im getting: packages ....core/...ovim and .../ovim have the same priority 5
<countoren> what is happing here?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @averelld opened pull request #43117 → mattermost-desktop: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 → https://git.io/fNeU0
<countoren> well i think i got it, it is just that I've installed ovim nix-env -i and it is already in my profile that is why the conflict happens :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to master « nixos.tests.containers-imperative: increase VM memory »: https://git.io/fNekr
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<tenten8401> Does AnyDesk not display as an app menu icon for anyone else? I think it might be missing a .desktop file
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<sagnik> It is, actually
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<adamt> Have anybody ever managed to brick vmware guests by loading iPXE? If iPXE is the first thing the host loads, my guests never get further than the vmware-splash screen after the first boot. Even the build-in EFI shell is dead. (clever, perhaps, ye ol' PXE wizard?)
<adamt> (not terribly NixOS specific, except for everything except vmware running NixOS. :P)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed to master « python.pkgs.agate: fix tests »: https://git.io/fNetz
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<averell> i guess you need special privileges to make borg builds from PRs?
<gchristensen> yeah, what do you want to build?
<averell> just a simple package upgrade, i thought i could save a round trip. it isn't urgent.
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<gchristensen> link?
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<{^_^}> #43117 (by averelld, open): mattermost-desktop: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2
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<averell> thanks :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo opened pull request #43119 → dockerTools.examples: explicitly set image tag to fix docker-tools tests → https://git.io/fNemt
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<rrnewton> Coming back to Nix after a while, and I must be doing something wrong here because it's listing no packages:
<rrnewton> NIX_PATH="nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs-channels/archive/nixos-18.03.tar.gz" nix-env -qaP \*
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<clever> rrnewton: nix-env ignores $NIX_PATH by default
<rrnewton> For checked in .nix files I would usually point to a tarball to "lock" the SW dependencies, but for the CLI it seems I'm not remembering how to override nixpkgs properly.
<clever> rrnewton: try instead with `nix-env -f https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs-channels/archive/nixos-18.03.tar.gz`
<manveru> rrnewton: also there is `nix search now` :)
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<manveru> i meant, `nix search` only, also `nix-env -f channel:nixos-18.03 -qaP` should work
<rrnewton> Ah, thank you! `-f` rings a bell... I just forgot. TBH Nix complexity is hard for *both* newcomers and people who come and go from it.
<rrnewton> Looking forward to using the new CLI with `nix <cmd>`
<clever> rrnewton: nix-env is the only tool within the set that has that weird interface
<rrnewton> ok, I'll need to wean myself ;-)
<clever> by default, it uses ~/.nix-defexpr/
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<clever> but you can also -f '<nixpkgs>'
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed to master « python: alembic: 0.9.9 -> 0.9.10 »: https://git.io/fNe3C
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed to master « dunst: fix building without dunstify »: https://git.io/fNe3d
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda opened pull request #43120 → maintainers/scripts/update-python-libraries: compare versions semantically instead of lexicographically → https://git.io/fNe3p
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<disasm> I'm exporting LOCALE_ARCHIVE, LC_ALL, and LANG in a script hydra runs (same behavior with nix-shell --pure running the script) an I get warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_GB.UTF-8): No such file or directory
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<LnL> does the build environment include glibcLocales?
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<disasm> LnL: it's doing a writeScriptBin and then I run the script using nix-shell --pure currently for debugging purposes, so buildInputs isn't really being used here: https://gist.github.com/disassembler/ec9b634bbe8c671519b94698f2bb32a4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #43106 → seafile-client: 6.1.8 -> 6.2.1 → https://git.io/fbjMr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fNenR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #43119 → dockerTools.examples: explicitly set image tag to fix docker-tools tests → https://git.io/fNemt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fNeck
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #43121 → nixpkgs docs: correct misspell → https://git.io/fNecL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #43121 → nixpkgs docs: correct misspell → https://git.io/fNecL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fNecO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed to master « flexget: update propagatedBuildInputs »: https://git.io/fNec0
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<pie__> how does this Dhall thing compare to nix?
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<pie__> compare/relate
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #42915 → pythonPackages.matrix-client: 0.2.0 -> 0.3.2 → https://git.io/fQYtx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed commit from @peterhoeg to master « pythonPackages.matrix-client: 0.2.0 -> 0.3.2 (#42915) »: https://git.io/fNeC8
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<booglewoogle> hey, is it normal for the runlevel command to return unknown in nixos?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #43054 → chirp: 20180614 -> 20180623 → https://git.io/fbpuV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fNeWZ
<infinisil> ,locate bin runlevel
<{^_^}> Found in packages: busybox, systemd, sysvinit, molly-guard
* infinisil has no idea
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<ekleog> Hey! Anyone familiar with ca-certificates? I'm getting issues with a certificate apparently not in /etc/ssl/certs but used in openssl s_client -connect
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<ekleog> Case in mind: `openssl s_client -connect cyberjapandata.gsi.go.jp:443 -servername cyberjapandata.gsi.go.jp` (passes) vs. same command with `SSL_CERT_FILE=/etc/ssl/certs` prepended (fails)
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<Dezgeg> runleves is a sysv-init thing and nixos uses systemd, so probably yes
<ajs124> ekleog, shouldn't it be SSL_CERT_FILE=/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt ?
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<ekleog> oh. indeed.
<ekleog> Thanks! So my problem appears to be that java somehow doesn't use /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt…
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<ekleog> even even when passed -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=/etc/ssl/certs
<booglewoogle> i see, makes sense. thanks, ajs124
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm closed pull request #42934 → virtualbox: 5.2.12 -> 5.2.14 → https://git.io/f5E97
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<disasm> ekleog: most java programs use their own keystore: in $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/security/cacerts. The format of that file is a jks file
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<ekleog> Oh. So there isn't a way to make it use /etc/ssl/certs? With the JAVAX_NET_SSL_TRUSTSTORE env variable patch I was hopeful :/
<ekleog> Oh, or maybe it needs to be a JKS file
<disasm> it has to be a jks format
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<disasm> you could do something like this: for file in *.pem; do openssl x509 -outform der -in "$file" -out /tmp/certificate.der; keytool -import -alias "$file" -keystore ./java/cacerts -file /tmp/certificate.der -deststorepass changeit -noprompt; done;
<ekleog> Oh OK, so that's it. Thanks! Then, now, to figure out why GlobalSign isn't in the java default truststore.
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<sir_guy_carleton> is there anyway of keeping the packages installed with nix-shell safe from the gc without putting in the systemPackages or nix-env?
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<disasm> ekleog: they have a support article, so I'm guessing they know they're not in it :) https://support.globalsign.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2121490-java-keytool---create-keystore
<disasm> sir_guy_carleton: create a gcroot
<ekleog> Hmm… That's really weird, because other people do appear to have it
<ekleog> (like, the developer of JOSM in the specific case I'm trying to debug)
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<sir_guy_carleton> disasm: with nix-shell --indirect --add-root?
<ekleog> (that said they're using the oracle jdk, so maybe…)
<disasm> sir_guy_carleton: hmm, not sure if that works or not. I've just symlinked nix store paths I definitely don't want gc'd into /nix/var/nix/gcroots/per-user/<username>
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #43123 → networkmanagerapplet: 1.8.10 -> 1.8.14 → https://git.io/fNe4D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #43124 → [backport 18.03] gocryptfs: 1.1.1 -> 1.5 → https://git.io/fNe4h
<tnks> I normally get both a self and super reference when doing overrides. But ~/.nixpkgs/config's packageOverrides seems to only give me access to a super reference.
<tnks> Am I missing something?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed to master « .dir-locals.el: init »: https://git.io/fNeBq
<infinisil> tnks: Yeah it's an old way of doing things, overlays should be preferred
<tnks> infinisil: oh yeah... overlays!
<tnks> I was looking at old docs.
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<infinisil> A bunch of docs unfortunately still use packageOverrides
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<ekleog> disasm: Hmm… When I run https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3508050/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-trusted-root-certificates-in-java/3508175#3508175 with `java -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=/tmp/local-cacerts Main`, with /tmp/local-cacerts being an import of the GlobalSign Root CA extracted from my /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt, I don't get GlobalSign in the results :(
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #43123 → networkmanagerapplet: 1.8.10 -> 1.8.14 → https://git.io/fNe4D
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<disasm> LnL: adding glibcLocales to buildInputs in the derivation running the script solves the issue.
<LnL> disasm: hmm it looked ok, take a look at the setup-hook of glibcLocales maybe something else is also neccecary?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #42909 → perlPackages: fix meta and fix build with perl-5.26 → https://git.io/fHSWr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @volth to staging « perlPackages: fix meta and fix build with perl-5.26 (#42909) »: https://git.io/fNeEl
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<sir_guy_carleton> hmm, so puting nix-instantate --indoirect --add-root for the shell.nix seems to put a symlink to the gcroot/auto/
<sir_guy_carleton> but stuff is still getting garbage collected
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43116 → telepresence: 0.67 -> 0.85 → https://git.io/fNeJ5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @offlinehacker to master « telepresence: 0.67 -> 0.85 (#43116) »: https://git.io/fNeEb
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<fragamus> srhb: nix-env -qa nixpkgs.hmetis still doesn't find it but there was a build today. You said the commit was very old. What does that mean and why does it affect the build?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43117 → mattermost-desktop: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 → https://git.io/fNeU0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @averelld to master « mattermost-desktop: 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 (#43117) »: https://git.io/fNeuW
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<gchristensen> ah sure
<gchristensen> oops
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #43120 → maintainers/scripts/update-python-libraries: compare versions semantically instead of lexicographically → https://git.io/fNe3p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @dotlambda to master « maintainers/scripts/update-python-libraries: compare versions semantically instead of lexicographically (#43120) »: https://git.io/fNeub
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<worldofpeace> ,locate bin/appstreamcli
<{^_^}> Found in packages: appstream
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<sir_guy_carleton> so i'm trying to registed the results of shell.nix to the gcroots with nix-shell ./shell.nix --add-root /nix/var/nix/gcroots/per-user/<username>/
<sir_guy_carleton> but it's not working; nothing is being created there
<sir_guy_carleton> what am i missing?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji closed pull request #43113 → firefox, firefox-bin: 61.0 -> 61.0.1 → https://git.io/fbjA6
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<gchristensen> {^_^} is broken due to a botched upgrade and will remain that way for a bit
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<gchristensen> where "a bit" is approx 3 min apparently
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<sir_guy_carleton> okay, so i got nix-instantate to register a gcroots with my per-user directory, but the gc still deletes a bunch of stuff from the store
<infinisil> sir_guy_carleton: check man nix.conf, there's 2 keep-* options which influence gc
<gchristensen> I love services which sanity-check their config before it allows the dellay
<gchristensen> I love services which sanity-check their config before it allows the deploy*
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<sir_guy_carleton> infinisil: there's keep-env-derivations and keep-outputs set to false by default
<infinisil> Yeah those
<infinisil> You might want to set them to true
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<sir_guy_carleton> infinisil: okay, i think it works, thank you
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<sir_guy_carleton> nb: the example in nix.extraOptions list 'gc-keep-outputs = true' as an example
<sir_guy_carleton> that seems like it needs updating
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<disasm> LnL: clever and I think the issue is the locale can't be changed mid-script, so when LC_ALL is set after exporting LOCALE_ARCHIVE it throws an error, but any processes launched by that script will have the right locale set.
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<infinisil> sir_guy_carleton: Oh yeah
<gem> Hey, Ive been getting this error when ever running sudo nixos-rebuild switch: warning: Nix search path entry '$HOME/.nix-defexpr/channels' does not exist, ignoring
<gem> Should I be worried?/How do I fix it
<LnL> disasm: oh the script depended on it inline?
<LnL> thought it was just a wrapper
<clever> LnL: i think the act of setting LC_ALL causes bash to reload locales, but glibc only reads LOCALE_ARCHIVE once at startup
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<LnL> really? I'd kind of expect that to only work for subprocesses
<kalbasit> where is the `buildPhase` supposed to write files at? When I try to create files under `$src` I get permission denied
<disasm> LnL: it was throwing a warning on the line where LC_ALL was set that was showing up in our hydra logs every time it ran. I was trying to make that warning go away.
<clever> kalbasit: the working directory
<kalbasit> clever: I see
<kalbasit> let me try
<clever> kalbasit: the source has also already been unpacked to the working directory
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<disasm> as long as unpackPhase wasn't disabled :)
<kalbasit> nice, that worked!
<LnL> yeah, $src might be readonly or even a tarball
<kalbasit> thx clever/diasm!
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<LnL> you can also use $sourceRoot to reference the unpacked sources if you need that for some reason
<clever> LnL: though sourceRoot tends to be a relative path, and wont be right once the stdenv has cd'd into it
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<LnL> isn't it absolute?
<clever> [nix-shell:~/iohk/iohk-nixops-devops-923]$ nix-store -l /nix/store/zf78hk92a6jx2s4wglp872yxx6ynrp6m-nix-memoise | grep 'source root is'
<clever> source root is source
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<clever> LnL: its just "source" for a src = fetchFromGithub build
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<fresheyeball> any way the $MAINPID doesn't get set?
<gem> Hey, I'm getting this error after installing xonotic: Unable to load GL driver "libGL.so.1. When I installed nexuiz, it ran fine. I also tried to install opengl and the amd non free drivers; the latter failed
<LnL> yeah indeed, really thought I used that before to get an absolute reference
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<kalbasit> ,locate pactl
<infinisil> Huh..
<infinisil> Oh, {^_^} is daed
<infinisil> gchristensen: ^^ ?
<kalbasit> I was wondering if I made a typo
<gchristensen> you probably need to reset your connections
<infinisil> ,
<infinisil> Nope, it's not getting any messages even
<infinisil> Just restarted it
<gchristensen> yikes
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<kalbasit> if a derivation installs an executable into `$out/bin`, will this folder be exported to PATH automatically?
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<LnL> depends how you're using it
<kalbasit> in the `installPhase` I'm just copyting the folder full of binaries to `$out/bin`
<kalbasit> (still incomplete btw, hence the TODO inside)
<LnL> yes, that's where binaries are expected to be
<kalbasit> awesome! thx
<LnL> so when using this as a dependency or in nix-shell/nix-env it will end up in PATH
<LnL> you also don't need to worry about ownership, nix will do that for your after the build
<kalbasit> oh, thx for the tip
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<gchristensen> anyone want to give me a quick sanity-check? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/43125
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<manveru> i wonder what happened to the idea of having a test attached to each package :)
<srk> trace: warning: The option `ip4' defined in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' has been renamed to `ipv4.addresses'.
<srk> :D
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<kalbasit> is it possible to lock on a specific channel from within `.nixpkgs/config.nix` ? Right now I have a file `init.sh` that adds the unstable channel, but that's hardly reproducible across builds
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<kalbasit> (BTW I'm on Arch, not NixOS, I'm trying to convert my dotfiles first to make the switch easier)
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<srk> gchristensen: inet 10.8.8.8/32 scope global lo, seems legit
<symphorien> speaking about tests, what nixos tests should I build to check I didn't break polkit ?
<gchristensen> srk: thanks! :D
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<Orbstheorem> Hi, I'd like to build a derivation that outputs a ODROID-XU4 EMMC image (just like the live-cd output). I've been trying to find instructions on the wiki, but they refer to using one of the generated images from http://nixos-arm.dezgeg.me/installer
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<Orbstheorem> I read _somewhere_ (I can't remember) that clever has a a binary cache, do you happen to have a nix recipe for building images too?
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<Orbstheorem> I also found this: https://lastlog.de/blog/posts/odroid_xu4_with_nixos.html but I still can't find the configuration.nix
<puffnfresh> sphalerite: I managed to just use the alsaucm binary and then did an alsactl store, didn't need to use replaceRuntimeDependencies
<worldofpeace> ,locate lib/gsignon
<infinisil> worldofpeace: {^_^} is still dead for whatever reason (not my fault though :P)
<worldofpeace> infinisil: I suggest a murder investigation. :P
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<gchristensen> ,tofu
* gchristensen pokes, prods
<gchristensen> honestly, I'd fix it, but the coworking space I paid $25 to be in today has decided that they should block SSH right about now.
<joepie91> gchristensen: you should demand $22 of that to be refunded
<joepie91> har har har
<symphorien> worldofpeace: you can use nix-locate and nix-index to replace the bot locally
<joepie91> (sorry :P)
<worldofpeace> Wah that library isn't packaged :(
<infinisil> kalbasit: You can make it put something like that file into ~/.nix-defexpr/default.nix
<infinisil> kalbasit: Then you don't need any channels, and you can install stuff by doing `nix-env -iA hello` (instead of nixos.hello or so)
<kalbasit> interesting
<infinisil> That file can define what it uses as the top level expression with nix-env
<kalbasit> `config.nix` should put it there or a shell script before doing any `nix-env -i all` ?
<infinisil> Ah right there's also config.nix, hmm..
<infinisil> Not sure, I'm not using nix-env at all in general
<kalbasit> infinisil: yea here's my current config https://gist.github.com/kalbasit/111bf9db708dfdad3a485cb1a830ba25
<kalbasit> I see
<infinisil> And I actually just have `import <nixpkgs> {}` in ~/.nix-defexpr/default.nix to make nix-env work
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<kalbasit> maybe it will just work, I'll try later today, I'm working on sway now
<infinisil> Ah actually, I know how it can work
<infinisil> Hold on
<infinisil> Still ~/.nix-defexpr/default.nix, but it can also replace all your config and overlays
<kalbasit> oh cool
<infinisil> While I've never seen anybody do this, I don't see a problem with that. A single file for everything
<kalbasit> I'll give a try, thank you!
<infinisil> :)
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<LnL> one caveat with that is that '<nixpkgs>' won't use that same package set, unless you change NIX_PATH
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<infinisil> Oh good point, kalbasit ^^
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<infinisil> I guess you need multiple files after all to make everything work as intended..
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<kalbasit> hmmm I might need your help with how the files would look like.
<LnL> but unless this is part of a repo where you want to build multiple branches together I'd argue nix-channel/git gives you enough traceability to rollback
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<kalbasit> LnL: true, that's what I currently have: https://github.com/kalbasit/.nixpkgs
<LnL> and you can do some stuff to get the nixpkgs revision into your build to make that even easier
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<kalbasit> see the `init.sh` file?
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<elvishjerricco> My machine ran out of space, and now running `nix-collect-garbage` gives "error: executing SQLite statement 'pragma synchronous = normal': unable to open database file (in '/nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite')"
<LnL> ^ gchristensen
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<elvishjerricco> This is after deleting a few files to get some space, btw
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<elvishjerricco> Huh. Adding the `-d` argument fixed it somehow...
<LnL> we've also had problems with the macs for hydra
<fnord_> Hi, just switched to nixos-18.03 and I'm getting "error: unsupported builtin function 'buildenv'" when trying to remove packages with nix-env, any idea what I can do?
<LnL> elvishjerricco: oh, so it works again now?
<LnL> fnord_: are you using nixUnstable?
<elvishjerricco> LnL: Yea. No clue how `-d` would affect anything, but it's working now
<LnL> kalbasit: there are a number of ways people handle this, pinning, git submodules, etc.
<LnL> I suspect it didn't really have enough space yet, alltho that usually is a different error
<kalbasit> submodule the NixOS/nixpkgs, hmmm interesting
<fnord_> LnL: not that I'm aware of; running nix-env --version yields: "nix (Nix) 2.0.4"
<fnord_> also `nix-env -q` and `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix` do not mention nixUnstable
<LnL> hmm, well to confirm my suspicion can you check the version of the nix-daemon that's currently running
<fnord_> `nix-daemon --version` yields `nix-daemon (Nix) 2.0.4`
<fnord_> LnL:
<LnL> yeah no that's just the one in your PATH
<fnord_> oh ok, how can I check the version of the currently running one?
<LnL> no nice way, but this is on linux so: /proc/$NIX_DAEMON_PID/exe --version
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<infinisil> LnL: Fancy#!
<Lisanna> does the nixos.org infrastructure depend on "<nixpkgs>" even though it also publishes nixpkgs? i.e., is there a circular dependency?
<infinisil> LnL: Except that env var isn't set on my machine at least
<fnord_> LnL: /proc/`pidof nix-daemon`/exe --version ==> nix-daemon (Nix) 2.0.4
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<LnL> fnord_: that doesn't work if you're running a build
<Lisanna> trying to figure out if I should do the same with my infrastructure
<gchristensen> Lisanna: :o
<gchristensen> oops, LnL ^
<fnord_> LnL: I don't think I understand.
<LnL> $ pidof nix-daemon # => 31988 31909 31774 31761 28384 2764
<fnord_> $NIX_DAEMON_PID is an empty environment variable
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<fnord_> pidof just gave me a single pid
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<Lisanna> samueldr I mean, do they depend on "<nixpkgs>" specifically, i.e., nixpkgs as a channel
<Lisanna> or do they have a local checkout that they use
<gchristensen> Lisanna: I always pin the version via NIX_PATH
<gchristensen> and I recommend doing thesame
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<Lisanna> gchristensen do you pin the official channel URL?
<fnord_> LnL: sorry for not mentioning my substitution; I thought you weren't literal, so I tried to autocorrect.
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<samueldr> Lisanna: maybe I'm missing something, but in the change it seems NIX_PATH is set to use `nixpkgs=channel:nixos-18.03-small` and hydra to use `<nixpkgs>` as whatever the path of the checkout used for buidl (pkgs.path)
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<LnL> fnord_: yeah, works fine in most cases just wanted to say it's not a safe assumption :)
<Lisanna> 'cause, I have my own channel, and the infrastructure that hosts it depends on stuff in it. Currently I have the channel git as a submodule of the infrastructure configuration, so it can be deployed without depending on hydra being up and serving the channel
<fnord_> LnL: I see, just went for it because NIX_DAEMON_PID was empty ;)
<fnord_> maybe that's a symptom?
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<LnL> anyway, that seems to match so I'm not sure what could be causing the error
<fnord_> LnL: ok, still thanks for the help
<LnL> your $nix/share/nix/corepkgs/buildenv.nix uses builder = "builtin:buildenv"; right?
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<LnL> wait no, that's only in nixUnstable
<Kim> Hey, um, is there a tool to set up a deps list for apps written in Go?
<fnord_> LnL: Right, the line is: builder = nixLibexecDir + "/nix/buildenv";
<Kim> Thanks LnL!
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<LnL> fnord_: it _really_ looks like a nixUnstable trying to use that with a 2.0 daemon
<LnL> let me test
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<LnL> error: unsupported builtin function 'buildenv'
<LnL> fnord_: ^ that's nix-env 2.1pre6148_a4aac7f -> nix-daemon 2.0.4
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<fnord_> LnL: Ahh, I'm sorry, you're right: I hit the wrong terminal
<fragamus> hey do I need to upgrade to 18.09 to get recently added packages in unstable
<fnord_> LnL: I'm really sorry for wasting your time -.-''
<gchristensen> you'd need to upgrade to unstable to get pckages added to unstable
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<worldofpeace> ^
<LnL> no, you can 'only' use unstable for those packages and keep the rest at 18.03
<ldlework> How come this isn't replacing @homeManager@ in the script?
<ldlework> substitute ${./bin/hm} $out/bin/hm --replace @homeManager@ ${pkgs.home-manager}/bin/home-manager
<fragamus> im still on 17.09
<ldlework> I have "@homeManager@ -v -f $expr $command" in the script
<gchristensen> you should upgrade to 18.03 :)
<symphorien> I think you shouldn't specify @ as an argument, ldlework
<ldlework> symphorien: what do you mean
<symphorien> .... --replace homeManager ....
<symphorien> (out of my head, untested)
<ldlework> -replace s1 s2
<ldlework> Replace every occurrence of the string s1 by s2.
<infinisil> Replace would need @'s
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<ldlework> ?
<symphorien> fragamus: the wiki entry should also work with any combination of recent or outdated channels, though
<infinisil> --subst-var doesn't need the @'s
<ldlework> I'm using --replace
<ldlework> the arg uses @
<ldlework> the script has @
<symphorien> ah I am mixing, infinisil is right
<fragamus> ty
<infinisil> ldlework: There's explicit support for the @'s though
<ldlework> --subst-var-by ?
<ldlework> but why isn't it working?
<infinisil> Ye
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<ldlework> Anyway, I'll try --subst-var-by real quick
<infinisil> Your command is --subst-var-by homeManager ${pkgs.home-man...?
<ldlework> well it is now
<ldlework> before it was
<ldlework> substitute ${./bin/hm} $out/bin/hm --replace @homeManager@ ${pkgs.home-manager}/bin/home-manager
<fnord_> LnL: Got it fixed, there was still a stable nix-env used by my root user in store with which I could downgrade my user nix package
<fnord_> LnL: Thanks again for your help!
<ldlework> @homeManager@ -v -f $expr $command <- this is the line in the script
<infinisil> No idea why it doesn't work
<LnL> fnord_: no problem, you can upgrade the daemon with nix.package = pkgs.nixUnstable; in your configuration.nix, then nix-env can use the new builtin
<fnord_> LnL: I see, thanks for the hint!
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<ldlework> What's the trick to get a fetchTarball sha256?
* gchristensen prods {^_^} some more so he can ,tofu
<symphorien> ldlework: insert 52 0s instead, build once, the error message will tell you the right hash
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<ldlework> the thing is, the first time I built, I had no hash at all
<ldlework> now that I'm trying to add a sha256 it is giving me this error
<ldlework> I tried the nix-prefetch-url --unpack way to get the real hash
<ldlework> also
<ldlework> the tar changed between when I first added it without the hash, and now
<ldlework> so I can't get the original hash
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<ldlework> :3
<LnL> use nix-prefetch-url '<nixpkgs>' -A hello.src to get the proper hash of source in all cases
<ldlework> huh?
<LnL> using urls is error prone because of unpack behaviour like you're running into now
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<LnL> the correct incantation would be nix-prefetch-url --unpack --name source $url
<LnL> dtz: are your changes to show the fetchTarball hashes in 2.0-maintenance?
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<infinisil> Oh neat, I never even thought about just using vim to get the 52 0's: 52i0<esc>
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<LnL> that's exactly what I do
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<LnL> I've also thought about making a small plugin that evaluates it and fills in the correct hash for you
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<infinisil> LnL: Would probably be the easiest to write a plugin you e.g. give owner, repo, rev, and it inserts the full nix expression fetchFromGitHub { owner = ...
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<LnL> or use a trick to find the attribute based on the current file :)
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<infinisil> ,locate bin gsignon
<{^_^}> Couldn't find any packages
<infinisil> Oh right, worldofpeace mentioned it's not packaged
<worldofpeace> I really need it too. Too lazy right now to do it.
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<infinisil> Recently I'm often telling myself to "Just Do It". Works surprisingly well
<worldofpeace> "Just Do It" ha. I'll have to eventually. The elementary apps need it.
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<infinisil> The simplest form of just doing it in regards to a package that doesn't exist would be to open an issue about it
<infinisil> Not really doing much, but it would help a bit :P
<worldofpeace> Hmm, might do that...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #43129 → gtkspell3: add valaSupport → https://git.io/fNexz
<ldlework> I'm still not sure how to fix my problem
<ldlework> no matter what I do, I get the same error
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<ldlework> fnevermind
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<gchristensen> "just do it" is good
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<samueldr> now y'all starting to sound like clever :)
<worldofpeace> ugh it has to many configurations https://gitlab.com/accounts-sso/gsignond
<infinisil> 6?
<infinisil> That doesn't sound like a lot
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<worldofpeace> But still not as simple as one :P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @orivej opened pull request #43130 → Add type_getattro.patch patch because it is no longer downloadable → https://git.io/fNepq
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<infinisil> bus_type? session, extension? default, debug? not sure, docs? yes please, keychain? what the hell is that, storagedir? Why the hell is that a compile time option
<infinisil> worldofpeace: Not as easy as I thought heh
<Dezgeg> maybe check what e.g. arch linux uses for them and imitate
<worldofpeace> YES
<worldofpeace> copy-pasta heaven
<worldofpeace> not really but still
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<worldofpeace> I guess they default to session for bus_type.
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<worldofpeace> Wait nvm I don't think you have to do anything.
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<ldlework> infinisil: can you remind me what the quick way to build a derivation that is a simple bash script, who's code might use store paths of other packages etc?
<infinisil> nix-build --no-out-link '<nixpkgs>' -A hello ?
<ldlework> basically I'm trying to figure out the nix way to use this zsh snippet: https://gist.github.com/ha7ilm/37c4272b1df6fbfdb0df30464252241e
<ldlework> I can add it to the zsh modules "extraInit" which lets you just add some string data to the end of the zsh config
<ldlework> but I'm not sure how to refer to the ranger package's binary
<maurer> Anyone know if there's a way to invoke nix-bundle on a local file (e.g. a default.nix) rather than on a nixpkgs attribute?
<maurer> I have a project not packaged in nixpkgs, but with all its dependencies in nixpkgs, and I'd like to have nix-bundle produce a portable copy
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<worldofpeace> maurer: I think I did it before just trying to recall...
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<worldofpeace> maurer: read clevers comment here https://github.com/matthewbauer/nix-bundle/issues/25
<{^_^}> #25 (by domenkozar, open): Bundle non-nixpkgs attributes
<worldofpeace> {^_^}: I thought you were completely dead!
<ldlework> infinisil: does that make more sense?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @orivej-nixos merged pull request #43130 → Add type_getattro.patch because it is no longer downloadable → https://git.io/fNepq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @orivej-nixos pushed commit from @orivej to master « Add type_getattro.patch because it is no longer downloadable (#43130) »: https://git.io/fNehw
<ldlework> i guess I could just have it do $(which ranger)
<ldlework> seems lame tho
<maurer> worldofpeace: OK, it's running. I'll see if it works. Thanks
<maurer> (somehow, I suspect the resulting closure is going to be hundreds of megs or something similarly boosted)
<worldofpeace> maurer: I think I might have got it working when it was in an overlay too
<infinisil> ldlework: Patch it to use the nix path?
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<ldlework> infinisil: how?
<infinisil> runCommand or something
<infinisil> pkgs.runCommand "r" {} "substitute ${fetchurl { ... }} $out --replace /usr/bin/ranger ${pkgs.ranger}/bin/ranger"
<infinisil> Or so
<ldlework> ok that will create a package who's content is the snippet with the replacement
<infinisil> Yup
<ldlework> but now how to use that in the zsh module's initExtra
<infinisil> initExtra = ". ${pkgs.runCommand ...}"
<infinisil> It's just a shell script you have to source
<infinisil> Use some let in's to make it more readable :P
<ldlework> oh I see, so you're adding a sourcing line, and referring to the runCommand's package
<infinisil> Yup
<ldlework> huh
<ldlework> infinisil: is there anyway to get the interpolation that happens with nix string literals, with say, text read from a file?
<infinisil> > builtins.readFile <nixpkgs/.version>
<ldlework> anyway thanks
<{^_^}> "18.09\n"
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<maurer> Hrm, got to the end of the build, then
<maurer> arx: System/Posix/ARX/CLI.hs:164:10-19: No instance nor default method for class operation mappend
<ldlework> infinisil: I don't understand what you're showing there with that last bit