gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | 18.09 release managers: vcunat and samueldr | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<drakonis1> infinisil: why not do backports similar to what debian does?
<drakonis1> say, you have the stable repo that goes largely unchanged, only when security fixes come in
<drakonis1> and one for things backported from the next version
<drakonis1> split it in half that is
<drakonis1> overlay the backports repo on top of the stable repo
<drakonis1> wait nevermind, i read this one wrong
<drakonis1> :|
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<Enzime> https://hydra.nixos.org/build/83229198/log the brotli encoding broke again on Hydra I believe
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<andi-> infinisil: rule oft thumb is 1 month for backports. 18.09 was released 6th october as a user I would still expect some things to be backported.
<andi-> Scrap that.. I am 6 months off.. /me needs breakfast
<infinisil> andi-: How are you 6 months off?
<andi-> Oh I am not.. m(
* andi- shuts up until after breakfast
<gchristensen> ^.^
<infinisil> Hehe
<infinisil> Although, if the rule is one month for backports, then we're already over that, because the branchoff was one month before the release at the start of September. We've been doing backports to 2 branches for almost 2 months now..
<gchristensen> 1mo after release
<infinisil> Yeah, but still
<gchristensen> I'm inclined to think the backport period will only grow from here :)
<infinisil> I'd rather have an LTS release of sorts every 2 years or so
<andi-> I am toying with the idea of trying to support it longer for arbitrary reasons.. On the other hand there is already enough work..
<gchristensen> andi-: don't go it alone :)
<andi-> gchristensen: yeah :)
<gchristensen> LTS releases and 2yr support is way way hard
<andi-> I wasn't thinking 2y but maybe trying 1y or 10m..
<infinisil> gchristensen: I feel like that's something companies would want, right?
<gchristensen> yeah, but slightly chicken-and-egg since we would basically need to pay a(t least one) salary to do it
<adisbladis> infinisil: Yeah. But we're already stretched thin as it is
<LnL> yeah exactly
<adisbladis> I don't think anyone is against LTS relesases, it's just not feasible right now
<infinisil> Yeah agreed, but I'll think of it as an eventual goal
<gchristensen> +1 definitely yes
<andi-> I have the feeling companies want LTS but actually not not always need it.. Also agree that it is not feasible without FT commitment
<gchristensen> to any companies listening, PM me and we can start thinking about this :)
<ekleog> hmm… is /options.html no longer bound to 18.09? the nextcloud backport has been merged 6 days ago, howoldis states that the last bump of 18.09 is 3 days ago, but there's nothing in the /options.html about nextcloud?
<adisbladis> ekleog: Did you look at the commit date?
<ekleog> uh wait… has it been merged or is it just github doing nonsense?
<ekleog> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/47859 <- it looks like github marked it as merged while a single commit was cherry-picked from the PR?
<{^_^}> #47859 (by flokli, 3 weeks ago, merged): [Backport 18.09] nextcloud module: init
<ekleog> nah it looks like the module is actually present on nixos/release-18.09, but not yet in the commit by howoldis… well, I guess I misunderstand something about dates, then :)
<adisbladis> ekleog: Yeah the dates in howoldis are when the channel progressed, not when the commit was made (iirc)
<ekleog> ooh 'k, thanks :)
<ekleog> yeah, last commit is 9 days ago inded
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<MoreTea> buffer 5
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<ekleog> do we have any way in the test framework to wait for a successful run of a timer?
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<timokau[m]1> Is anything being done about the recent x-org advisory yet? Couldn't find anything searching for the CVE
<timokau[m]1> Or is it not relevant for nixos? Not sure what the setuid is used for.
<gchristensen> I don't think it applies since our xorg isn't suid
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<timokau[m]1> Alright good to know, thanks.
<gchristensen> but maybe bring it up in #nixos-security timokau[m]1
<timokau[m]1> Oh didn't know that was a thing
<timokau[m]1> Will do
<timokau[m]1> What is the currently preferred way to add a package alias? `aliases.nix` says something about deprecation
<ekleog> it doesn't actually emit a warning
<timokau[m]1> So is that the right place to add a new alias?
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<flokli> huh? what happened to hydras log output? oO https://hydra.nixos.org/build/83250045
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<clever> flokli: compressed i believe
<clever> flokli: defintiely a bug, not decompressing properly
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<flokli> clever: file just says 'data'
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<clever> disasm: pong
<fpletz> jtojnar: sorry for putting off that pinentry stuff for too long… flokli thankfully nagged me in person again here at nixcon to finish that
<clever> flokli: i think nix is using brotoli for its compression now, file may not know of that
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<flokli> clever: might be... Hmm
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<ekleog> building nix is `nix-build release.nix -A build.x86_64-linux`, correct? I'm at 0%cpu and no build process
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<ekleog> oh nvm just found lots of downloads, it must be silently fetching something
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<edef> question: is there a way to get the S3 bucket listing for cache.nixos.org?
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<clever> flokli: i can confirm that `brotli -d` is able to decode the garbage hydra presents us with
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<schmittlauch[m]> ohai
<schmittlauch[m]> I just noticed that hydra seems to be stuck building the stable channel: The latest 18.09 channel is 10 days old already https://releases.nixos.org/nixos/18.09/nixos-18.09.932.09195057114
<schmittlauch[m]> Released on 2018-10-18 19:24:55 from Git commit 09195057114a0a8d112c847a9a8f52957420857d
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<emily> today I learned
<clever> the plasma failure in https://hydra.nixos.org/build/83250755#tabs-summary looks like an unexplainable failure to connect over hvc0
<schmittlauch[m]> This is bad because since then several security fixes have gotten into the release-18.09 branch, including firefox-63
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<schmittlauch[m]> So if monitoring hasn't already notified people, someone should better take a look at thus.
<schmittlauch[m]> *this
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